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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Bobert Date: 16 Jul 04 - 10:54 PM Hey, Dougie ain't bad... Most of that stuff he jus' says fir effect... Come on, Ebbie... Okay, if ya get 2nd, you can prolly swap with the 3rd place winner 'er jus put the 2nd on Ebay... I'm sure there are millions of folks who would like three nights playin' checkers with DougR... Millions... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Little Hawk Date: 16 Jul 04 - 10:53 PM Hitler was a mystic, caught up in the cult of personalities. War was a far more prosaic matter than he was ever willing to face up to. In the end those who had the most men, airplanes, ships, and tanks beat those who had less of all those things. It was a simple question of mathematics. Like someone said (Grant? Sherman?), "God is on the side of the big battalions." That's in a conventional set-piece war, of course. Guerrilla wars work a bit differently. As long as the guerillas have the will to keep fighting and a significant popular base of support to aid them, the war goes on. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Ebbie Date: 16 Jul 04 - 10:22 PM Oh dear. I had a perfectly thought out date ready- but I'm afraid I'd take second place. So, no thanks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 16 Jul 04 - 06:40 PM I can't see how Osama being captured or killed would in any way be likely to reduce the ability and determination of people in the Al Qaeda franchise to carry out their murderous activities. When one leader goes, there's always another. I am reminded of the way that Hitler is supposed to have been enormously encouraged when he heard that Roosevelt had died, and appears to have thought it would somehow make a huge difference. Of course it didn't, because that's not how things work. (And no, that doesn't mean I am suggesting Bin Laden is like Roosevelt - this is a strictly limited parallel. However some people do seem to have difficulty in understanding that concept, so I thought I'd underline that.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Bobert Date: 16 Jul 04 - 04:06 PM The second part of your question, LarryK, about would it be worth another four years of Bush to have Osoma captured is a complete no bariners... Heck no! Bush has done more damage to America than Osoma could do if he lived to be a couple hundred years old. I have no fear of Osaom but now, Bush? Whew! He scares the willies out of me... As for Osoma being captired on the 14th of October being a good thing or bad thing... Well, I guessed the 2nd of October, but now I'm having reservations because that is a Saturday and I wouldn't think Bush would want a Saturday capture because of the golf thing. That's when mosr angry white men are watching their golf shows and Bush would really hate to interupt his voting and financial base by interupting some putt on the 18th hole... ...so being the moderator/administrator I'm changing to Tuesday, Oct. 5th if no one allready has it claimed... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Little Hawk Date: 16 Jul 04 - 03:25 PM The Galactic Court of Sentient Being Rights has declared this planet to be quarantined. :-) They send in the AFO's now and then to keep an eye on things, though, in case there's any sign of improvement here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 16 Jul 04 - 02:02 PM Larry, try not to strain yourself figuring this one out. This really has very little to do with Osama bin Laden. It has to do with George Dubya Bush's campaign strategy, okay? It feeds into the conspiracy theory that bin Laden is already in U.S. hands and Bush's people are trying to pick a date to make the announcement. We're participating in the "wink wink" part of the thread, the "open secret" that everyone knows Bush will try to get the most bang for his $87 billion bucks wasted in Iraq by turning up the carcass of Saudi Arabian citizen bin Laden, dead or alive, somewhere near Afghanistan, in time to try for some gullible voters to think he's doing a good job and vote for him. If Osama turns up too early, voters will forget, but if he turns up too close to the election, even the dumb Americans might figure out that it's a trick. Got it? What matters is how Dubya's spin doctors time any announcement. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: GUEST,Larry K Date: 16 Jul 04 - 11:00 AM Bobert: If you are right and Ossama is either captured or brought in dead on October 14, will you consider it a good thing or a bad thing? Here is another hypothetical question: If capturing/killing Ossama meant that Bush would be reelected, would you prefer that Ossama not be captured/killed? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Rapparee Date: 16 Jul 04 - 09:34 AM Well, my anniversary is October 6. My great-nephew's birthday is October 7. My brother's bday is October 8. My wife's bday is October 11. This leaves only October 9 and 10. So my vote is at exactly midnight on October 9/10, 2004. I'll be in Boise then, I think, or maybe coming back from the meeting there. I read the Teribus posts and have filed suit against Bobert for violating the 8th Amdendment to the US Constitution and, in the International Court of Justice for his violation of the UN's declaration on Human Rights. I am actively seeking to file suit in the Galactic Court of Sentient Being Rights, too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Bobert Date: 16 Jul 04 - 09:24 AM Well, since the "capture" is part of Bush's campaign plans, and since I am the contest moderator/administrater we're goning on American time. None of that Prime Meridian/Greeich/Commie crap fir US... Contest Rules Revision: A few folks have noted that, ahhhh, Osoma might not actually be captured but brought in dead. Well on face value one would say that, like should his body we retrieved on Oct. 14th then mary garvey would be the winner but face value can get you into trouble sometimes... Bare wid me... Okay, lets say that Osoma's body is found partially decomposed in a cave will still hooked up to a cobweb covered dialysis machine on Oct. 14th??? Well, should mary garvey then be given a years gloating priviledges? Well, me and the Wes Ginny Slide Rule have been up all night with this one and this is what we have come up with. Should Osoma's body be found under such conditions then no 1st place prize will be awarded... However, the person who's "capture" date corresponds to the "find" date will be awarded the 2nd place prize of a year membership in Mudcat and 3 night playing checkers with DougR... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: JennyO Date: 16 Jul 04 - 01:45 AM If/when he is captured, what time zone are we talking about, to determine the date? Frinstance, if he is captured on October 7th, our time, but it is only October 6th mudcat time (we are 14 hours ahead), do I win? Or does someone who guessed the 6th win? Jenny, who has way too much time on her hands. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Amergin Date: 16 Jul 04 - 12:07 AM They'll find the missiles and biological agents the week before the Diebold selection....that way they'll be able to capitalise it and get him re-selected before it leaks they were really tubes used for a sewage treatment facility. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: mg Date: 16 Jul 04 - 12:05 AM I hope that one of you wins the bet and he is captured sometime soon. I will guess October 14. Has this been run by the Kurds, Pakistanis etc. so we are all singing off the same page here? mg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Bobert Date: 15 Jul 04 - 11:30 PM Thanks fir remindin' us, A-gin... Ahhhhh, fir extra credit you can predict (within 10 years) when that will occur... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Amergin Date: 15 Jul 04 - 11:27 PM Don't forget they'll find missiles or something in Iraq as well.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Bobert Date: 15 Jul 04 - 11:20 PM I don't know, Sorch? Yer birthday? Ain't that a lot like asking fir a case of the crud... I mean, every year on yer birthday all you'll remember is that was the day that the Bush folk decided to drag out a pathetic half dead bin Laden for the US voters to see... Being the contest administrator, I'll give you the option of trading that date with any other Catter's date, mine included... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Sorcha Date: 15 Jul 04 - 11:14 PM October 4, because it's my birthday. (and Micca's too) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Bobert Date: 15 Jul 04 - 09:00 PM Its the center piece of the Bush administration's "new and improved" foriegn policy, McG......... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 15 Jul 04 - 08:57 PM I noticed that even Bush is calling chips "French Fries" once more, now instead of "Freedom Fries". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Bobert Date: 15 Jul 04 - 08:51 PM When ya' all sober up, Rapster, get yer vote in... an' be sure to read the three Teribus posts first 'cuase we a re gonna quiz ya.... Just a bit of advice: biopolar 'er tripolar issues don't give you extra votes. What does this look like, Florida, fir gosh sakes? Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: SINSULL Date: 15 Jul 04 - 08:49 PM As if Bill O'Reilly could get American seniors to stop buying their cut-rate drugs from Canada. Not even threats of jail time have accomplished that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Rapparee Date: 15 Jul 04 - 08:43 PM Oh. Another talking head. No brains, no balls, just a head with a place to jabber away. Dear Bobert: I am the Commanding Officer of the Idaho Legion, the finest, most combat-ready, group of drunken layabouts in The West. I posted the response(s) of the Legion. You see, they were a bit undecided, and the conversation went something like this: "Septemer ten, the day that [whole strings of deleted expletives] had them planes driven inta the buildings." "Aw, wadda you know? That was on Sep...Septimmer twelve, ya drunk." "Yer both fulla [former bovine nutriments]. It was the 'leventh. I remember, 'cause I was out of booze then and nearly sober." "[Place of eternal damnation], let's jist tell 'im to tell what's-his-name that it was sometime along in there." "Okay, swell, now pass the bottle, ya [male sexual member] before I cut off your [bodily appendage]." "You an' who else, [insult deleted]?" And it degenerated from there. The boys and girls would like their prizes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 15 Jul 04 - 08:36 PM You got that right! I make a point of buying French wine on a regular basis these days. Wasn't O'Reilly host of one of those pseudo-news shows for years? All of the National Enquirer-style hype ("aliens kidnap Sarah Jessica Parker's poodle")? They come on right after the real news here, opposite Wheel of Fortune on the ABC affiliate. That's really scary--what a leap, from fake news host to fake news commentator. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: GUEST Date: 15 Jul 04 - 08:25 PM the other day he got into it with a Canadian journalist saying that if Canada doesn't give the "deserters" up he will call a boycott of all Canadian goods. the reporter told him she didn't think the boycott would work as americans buy alot of stuff from canada...he told her that according to the Paris Business Review his boycott of France has cost them billions of dollars...well there is no such thing as the Paris business review....or any mention of them losing billions of dollars due to this boycott...if anything americans have been buying MORE french goods. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Little Hawk Date: 15 Jul 04 - 06:27 PM Ah, yes, I see....(shudder) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Amergin Date: 15 Jul 04 - 06:21 PM click here also this fellow has not a word of truth coming from his gaping maw. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Little Hawk Date: 15 Jul 04 - 06:18 PM Who is Bill O'Reilly? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Amergin Date: 15 Jul 04 - 06:10 PM How about making the losers watch Bill O'Reilly for 24 hours a day for the next month? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Bert Date: 15 Jul 04 - 04:32 PM Oooh! SINSMELUV, LOL, That's so scary that it's probably true. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: SINSULL Date: 15 Jul 04 - 03:55 PM Osama is right here in the United States, last seen working Security at Reagan National Airport. He may turn himself in but will never be captured. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Little Hawk Date: 15 Jul 04 - 03:22 PM Okay, going out on a limb here...October 12th. I am predicting that they will capture or kill Osama Bin Laden, the terrorist (not Osoma Ben Hadden, the rug dealer) on October 12, 2004. And if I am wrong, may I be devoured by a horde of born-again wombats. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 15 Jul 04 - 02:43 PM Nerd, I agree with your reasoning, but I won't give the Rove folks any credit for subtlety--they won't wait a day or two, they'll blast the Dems out of the water on day one of their convention, so I vote for the announcement being made on July 26 that Osama has *amazingly* been "captured." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Bobert Date: 15 Jul 04 - 02:37 PM Idaho Legion GUEST, Sorry, but you picked 3 days. As moderator and administrator of the the "Osoma for Dollars Sweapstake", you are penalized and must read any three Teribus posts from start to finish and report back to us when that has been completed with your choice of a single date... And don't claim GUEST ammunity. Too much of that allready going 'round! And, no, Benji, I ain't CIA, FBI, USIA 'er none of them folks, but they keep calling leaving messages which I don't return... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: JennyO Date: 15 Jul 04 - 01:14 PM I strongly suspect they will never find him - however, for the purpose of this thread, I will take a guess and say October 7th. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: GUEST,CO, Idaho Legion Date: 15 Jul 04 - 12:31 PM September 10, 11, or 12. For obvious reasons. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: bengi Date: 15 Jul 04 - 12:00 PM Is Bobert, the predictor, CIA? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: polaitaly Date: 15 Jul 04 - 11:50 AM October 15. But he will not be captured : he will be "killed in action" and they will show his body (after unfreezing it, obviously)on TV, like for Hussein's sons. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Blackcatter Date: 15 Jul 04 - 11:25 AM They're not looking for the guy. And they will not find him. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Bert Date: 15 Jul 04 - 10:04 AM October 20th. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Wolfgang Date: 15 Jul 04 - 09:50 AM The range of admissible bobertised dates can of course increase a lot if you allow for changing the prediction as often as you want. Here are more Bobert predictions for the onset of war in Iraq: With that said, my guess is 2:00 am Bagdad time, Feb 5th. I originally predicted Jan 12th but then poor ol' Bush got his plans messed up (Bobert, 4th of January, 2003) Wolfgang (whose trust in Bobert's predictions is growing each day) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Wolfgang Date: 15 Jul 04 - 08:46 AM Wolfgang, please use the preview function next time
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Wolfgang Date: 15 Jul 04 - 08:02 AM The best predictor for future performance is the past record. So let's have a look: late Feb or first week of March (Bobert predicting the start of the Iraq war on 7th of February) Two weeks off a few weeks before the event. If that is the usual standard, we can expect Bobert to be two months off the actual date here, so I go the Bobert way, adjust for error and say first week of December. Sorry that this prediction doesn't fit in a political agenda. (On a serious note, I don't consider at this moment the USArmy or CIA to be able to keep their mouths shut about a capture for longer than two weeks. Not for the lack of ill will but for the lack of ability.) Wolfgang (grin) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 15 Jul 04 - 07:37 AM If they can't find Bin Laden, they'll pick up somebody noone has ever heard of, and spin him as being the most important man in the whole Al Qaeda franchise, the man who gives Osama his orders; and within a couple of days they'll have most people making like they've known about him all along, and people will start to believe that is true. False Memory Syndrome is a very powerful technique in media/politics. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Benjamin Date: 15 Jul 04 - 01:54 AM I have to go with September 29. I understand your reasoning against September, but if nothing else it's a great song by Earth Wind and Fire who coincedently have a new album out. I have yet to pick up my copy, but I've heard that it is better than the last one which came out in 97, and I did buy that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Amergin Date: 15 Jul 04 - 01:20 AM Bobert...with punishments like that you sure you weren't in charge of "Abu Garef"? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 15 Jul 04 - 12:48 AM The date will have to be before the Aussie Election - now allegedly scheduled October/early November. Robin |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Nerd Date: 15 Jul 04 - 12:43 AM July 28th, during the Democratic convention. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Little Hawk Date: 15 Jul 04 - 12:39 AM "Should another Catter attempt to pick the same date he or she will be punished by having to read every post that Teribus has posted!!!" Christ! Now there's a sick idea. It's inhuman! How would you enforce such a brutal punishment, Bobert? Okay, I think you're onto something here...but there's only one problem...and due to that one problem I am predicting that the capture you are anticipating will, in fact, not occur! Not at all. You know why? They're not looking for "Osoma". They're looking for Osama. Osama Bin Laden. At least they say that's who they're looking for, and they wouldn't lie, right? :-) Now, I know about this guy Osoma...he's a Persian rug seller in Beirut. He's as unimportant as last week's Albuquerque Herald. Nobody would want to bother capturing him, believe me, and it wouldn't help Bush get elected. So I'm predicting it won't happen. |
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Subject: BS: Osoma's Capture Date (wink, wink)... From: Bobert Date: 15 Jul 04 - 12:15 AM Well, I hate satrting a new thread since I tyhought that Don's was going to end up in this direction but with all the tricks that the Bush folks have up their sleeves, I think its fair game to pick the *official date* (wink, wink) of Osoma's capture. I'm staking out October 2nd. Any later and it will appear too obvious and any sooner it will not have that lasting effect that Bush would like to get out of the event. Plus, Bush knows not to inroduce stuff in September. Remember, Itaq. His guys said September was the wrong time to sell a war and he sho nuff got his war sold by waitin'... So, October 2nd!!!! Not the 1st. That would seem impatient! So, Catters. Pick a number while they last. Official Rules: Once a date has been taken it is taken. Should another Catter attempt to pick the same date he or she will be punished by having to read every post that Teribus has posted!!! I thought that would get yer attention... Prizes: The Catter who guesses the closest date will get a one year membership 6to Mudact and a one years un-protested gloating right at the Catbox. The 2nd place finisher will recieve a years membership to Mudcat and 3 nights of playing checkers with DougR. The 3rd place finisher will recieve a one year membership to Mudcat and two nights accomodations in Bobert's Double Decker Blues Bus Cottage (transportation, beer, samiches & smokin' rope not included.) Honorable mentions will recieve a one week membership to Mudcat and be honorably mentioned. Members of the Bush administration (Teribus included) are not eligible to particpate. Bobert (Contest Administrator) |
