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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: The Shambles Date: 24 Mar 06 - 09:49 AM Oot wi da force o watter - JAMES STOUT ANGUS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: dwditty Date: 24 Mar 06 - 09:42 AM ; ) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Peace Date: 23 Mar 06 - 12:12 PM You am one what? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: dwditty Date: 23 Mar 06 - 11:12 AM Yes...I should know...I am one! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Peace Date: 23 Mar 06 - 10:23 AM What amazes me most about these quotes (most of which I have encountered before) is that you always post the names of those who first said or coined the adages in bold print. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: The Shambles Date: 23 Mar 06 - 03:29 AM But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought. George Orwell |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: The Shambles Date: 23 Mar 06 - 02:11 AM Sorry Sham. Verb "lay" is transitive. Verb "lie" is intransitive. Ignorance is no defence. Likewise TV and newpapers and degrees are all dumbed down, hugely. I'm an ageing hippy, and will tolerate much - but toleration does not make right what is wrong. I could make a judgement that heavy rain and gales were wrong - but in practical terms this judgement would do nothing to prevent me getting wet and blown around - would it? My daughter went to school in Shetland. She was taught English but this was not the spoken language of her classmates. Shetland dialect is based on English but has elements of many languages. Her generation was luckier than earlier ones who were banned from speaking in their natural dialect at school. For all the best reasons - it was thought that they would be unemployable if they did not have English imposed on them. As always in such matters, there was also an element of snobbery involved. So what results are confused children who can read and write English quite well and who are educated to a high standard but who were inhibited in conversations (other than in dialect) and my daughter was a good example. If you were to try and stick to your rules of grammar as being RIGHT– you would be correcting just about everything my daughter and her school-friends would say, as being WRONG. Which would only result in inhibiting them further. They would not be ignorant or need a defence. As it is with most things – the old certainties tend to fall down on the borderline cases. But it is probably there that these rules should be judged. The following is a poem in Shetland dialect for an example. It sounds better than it reads but this is the case with all written language. For this and the rules than govern it are not the living spoken language itself but just a means and convention of recording it. You may be safe to judge this convention as being WRONG but never to judge the people who speak the way they choose to – as WRONG just because this does not conform with your concept of what is RIGHT. Eels II Da Lammas spates, lack flyooget aets Abön a flakki laavin, Fell frae da lift wi a heavy drift, Da sarn as an hit'd been kaavin. Da burns aa rase abön da braes Fir stanks an stripes wir tömed in, Till every lyoag whaar an eel could oag A neesik micht a swömed in. Da hedderkowes apo da knowes Lay drooket an disjasket, Da tatti shaas an bulwand taas Wir wuppled laek a gasket. Da grittest faels wir taen laek spaels An hurled ta da ocean - O, whaar could wirmi eels fin rest Wi siccan a dire commotion. An dis sam gref, da dead soo's bef, Brook oot at da nedder nyook, An ran lack a pipe till dey wir no a sipe At could a covered a fluke. And aa da eels cam, head-ower-heels, Oot wi da force o watter - A foon fan hadds among da clods, An brugs an moory gutter. An doon, doon, doon, grey, green, an broon, Dey wirmed an dey wumbled, Some smaa an lang laek a styilk o tang An some laek a baa gyaan heddikraa Till i da sea dey bumbled. JAMES STOUT ANGUS (1830 - 1923) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Amos Date: 22 Mar 06 - 10:03 PM The issue, Sham, is whether in the dynamic river of language there is the courtesy of consensus, or not. Some people use language as the highly evolved and complex set of agreements that it is to build realities. Others break it into degrees of offnnse in order to break reality or impress or bully. That's a matter of taste and relative sanity, and education. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 22 Mar 06 - 09:05 PM Speaking of assholes, just thought I'd share an old family recipe with ya... UNCLE FRED'S ASSHOLE PIE RECIPE 6 fresh pigs' feet 6 lbs. assholes 2 lg. onions, chopped 1/2 head garlic, chopped Sm. amount of green onion tops (a pinch will do) A pinch of parsley Boil pigs' feet and assholes until tender and remove all bones. Cook onions and garlic in 1 cup water until tender. Mix this into meat and add green onion tops and parsley. Cook about 5 minutes until water is boiled down. Pour into bowls and allow to gel. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Peace Date: 22 Mar 06 - 06:02 PM Then there's the difference between 'to lie' as a regular verb and 'to lie' as an irregular verb. Getting into 'to lay' has its moments in English, especially with teenagers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Richard Bridge Date: 22 Mar 06 - 05:10 PM Sorry Sham. Verb "lay" is transitive. Verb "lie" is intransitive. Ignorance is no defence. Likewise TV and newpapers and degrees are all dumbed down, hugely. I'm an ageing hippy, and will tolerate much - but toleration does not make right what is wrong. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: fat B****rd Date: 22 Mar 06 - 02:54 PM Mine is. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: The Shambles Date: 22 Mar 06 - 09:00 AM I was excellent. Everybody loved me. I love myself, and I like bums. Cardinal Richelieu |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Little Hawk Date: 22 Mar 06 - 08:51 AM Too much fuzz may have been what hampered the Italian Navy in WWII. Or it might have been the lack of an effective naval air arm... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: The Shambles Date: 22 Mar 06 - 08:48 AM Would we say that since most people cannot sing in tune, it must be right to sing out of tune? Like most things - it is not a matter of right or wrong - it is a matter of taste. What may sound out of tune to western ears may sound very tuneful to Polynesian ears. So it is not that you can't sing in tune - it is just that you are living in the wrong place. *Smiles* To be a little more serious. I think it is the same with music as with language. The ability and ease of travel means that these things are changing faster and faster. The 60s song that Pete and Dud tried to make sense of bears no comparison with the current words used in the songs of rappers and hip hop and in their everyday language. It may be conforting for some to think that both language and music are governed and contolled by some set of unchanging rules that can be taught - but the reality is that they are not. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Purple Foxx Date: 22 Mar 06 - 08:35 AM Or navel. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Once Famous Date: 22 Mar 06 - 08:30 AM I say keep it gender specific. There should be no political correctness when calling a spade a spade. If a man is an asshole he is truly a prick, if a woman is an asshole she is truly a cunt. Why worry about hurting someone's feelings about this? Why even analyze this at all? Some of you pricks and cunts have way too much fuzz in your naval. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: jacqui.c Date: 22 Mar 06 - 07:39 AM The majority of people can differentiate between the use of the male pronoun in either the sense of all MEN or the whole human population. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Wilfried Schaum Date: 22 Mar 06 - 06:04 AM Not in German. Here the asshole is neutri generis. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Richard Bridge Date: 22 Mar 06 - 03:45 AM Would we say that since most people cannot sing in tune, it must be right to sing out of tune? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Azizi Date: 22 Mar 06 - 03:17 AM IMNSHO, James Jones' statements provided above are only true if each one of them is prefaced with the word "sometimes". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: The Shambles Date: 21 Mar 06 - 11:57 PM From the female point of view the use of the male pronoun is normal and doesn't bother me one bit. So long as the sentence makes sense who the hell cares? There are no two ways about it. The word "man" refers to the species as well as the subset of males within that species. So when a woman strongly suggests that all men are pigs - she is really referring to both men amd women? I will leave it to you to explain this to the next irate woman who declares this............And to the rightly offended pigs. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: The Shambles Date: 21 Mar 06 - 11:37 PM Colour makes a difference. Gender makes a difference. Ethnicity makes a difference. Acting as if they don't will create more problems than it will solve. James Jones |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Peace Date: 21 Mar 06 - 11:28 PM Fu#k me gently. At last, someone I understand. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Bobert Date: 21 Mar 06 - 11:26 PM Ahhhhh, me an' the Wes Ginny Slide Rule been all over this one.... Seems that the actual asshole is just that.... A hole an' given that a hole is really like, ahhhhh, nuthin' at all.... Think doughnut hole here if you will... So, given that the hole in asshole is nuthin' the real question is "Are all 'nuthin's' male?" So the WGSR consulted the formost geneolgist, Dr. Richard Dick, what his views on the subject were and Dr. Dick Dick feels quite strongly that males exist... Being a male myself, I'm not as sure as Dr. Dick Dick but leaning toward the "we exist" school of thought... But then again, I did way too many drugs in the 60's... Hope this helps but I fear it won't... But, hey, if I don't exist then like who the heck cares.... Bobert & the WGSR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Peace Date: 21 Mar 06 - 11:23 PM LOL Shambles, I saw that, too. Years back. It was great. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: The Shambles Date: 21 Mar 06 - 11:22 PM I am reminded of a Peter Cook and Dudley Moore sketch where the words of James Brown's, Papa's Gotta Brand New Bag are closely examined by a very English acadamic (played by PC) - who comes up with a clever but totally incorrect meaning of the song. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Peace Date: 21 Mar 06 - 11:13 PM "then I will keep the ." convention? Cut it twice and it's still too short. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Peace Date: 21 Mar 06 - 11:10 PM "worth a damn on those that just" Or would have been better there, dontcha think? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Peace Date: 21 Mar 06 - 11:08 PM I often use grammar that's incorrect. We speak a languge that has rules of grammar--as do all languages--but they are rules that can and do change over time. And rules of grammar aren't really rules in that sense of the word. Grammar is just a way to be able to discuss language and how it works. I use the word "ain't", but I never did so in the presence of my grandmother because it would have engendered a smack on the noggin and a brief talk, the talk taking barely little more time than the smack. Our speech habits adapt readily to situations in which we find ourselves (our speech habits adapt readily to situations we find ourselves in), and IMO that's how it should be, And even if it isn't how it should be, that's the way it is. I will not spend time trying to unsplit an infinitive because I don't think it heralds the Fall of Western Civilization as We Know It, but if it takes a trice, then I will keep the . "This would ease our existential stress a little and allow us to generously donate to worthy charities around the world." The above from LH is an example. The split infinitive is utilitarian in that sentence. It certainly sounds better than 'This would ease our existential stress a little and allow us generously to donate to worthy charities around the world' or 'This would ease our existential stress a little and allow us to donate generously to worthy charities around the world.' And I do know that if he'd thought anyone would be asshole enough to pick on that he'd have written it another way in his post, because he is aware of the 'grammar rules' that matter worth a damn on those that just posture for pedantics. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: The Shambles Date: 21 Mar 06 - 11:05 PM In parts of the UK and I am sure elsewhere - the use of the grammatically spoken word would result in you not being able to communicate at all. So addressing this is less a question of choice but one of practical neccessity. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Little Hawk Date: 21 Mar 06 - 10:42 PM Hard to say, isn't it? I don't think it's a case of "should" or "shouldn't". It's a case of...this either bugs you or it doesn't. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: The Shambles Date: 21 Mar 06 - 10:31 PM In many parts of the English speaking world, the daily communcation of just about everyone has nothing to do with the rules of gammar. Should the way people actually communicate be changed to conform with these rules - or should these rules be brought in line with the way that people now speak? Perhaps they should be just used like a travel guide book is used and updated when the use of the guide book just means that the traveller gets lost? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Peace Date: 21 Mar 06 - 10:27 PM Thanks, LH. See my post above yours. 'Now has become: "If everyone will please open their test paper..."' I would likely say, "Please open your test papers . . . ". That use of 'their' bugs me, too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Little Hawk Date: 21 Mar 06 - 10:24 PM Sure. Proper grammar used to be: "If anyone here breaks the law, he may expect to pay the consequences." Present more common usage: "If anyone here breaks the law, they may expect to pay the consequences." "they" is incorrect grammar in that case...or at least, it certainly used to be. Now, if one had been addressing a room of female students, let's say, one would have said: "If everyone will please open her test paper, we can begin now..." But if one had addressed a room of both boys and girls, one would have said: "If everyone will please open his test paper..." or might have said "his or her test paper" in some cases, but usually just "his" Now has become: "If everyone will please open their test paper..." It's not a big deal, but there are times when it just doesn't sound right to me to say "they" or "their" when it used to be "his" or "her". "Everyone" means..."each single person". A single person is not "they". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Peace Date: 21 Mar 06 - 10:22 PM ". . . when a writer has chosen to use one that is gender-specific - that is their intention." That should be ". . . when a writer has chosen to use one that is gender-specific - that is his or her intention." No offense. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: The Shambles Date: 21 Mar 06 - 10:19 PM The point about language is to comunicate what it is you wish to say. The rules of grammar should help towards this end - and if they are outdated and do not help towards this end - it is of no practical use to be a slave to them or abide rigidly to them. It just takes a little bit of extra thought to ensure that the words you are choosing are saying exactly what you wish to say. And as it is so easy to find non-gender specific words - it is probably now safe for the reader to assume that when a writer has chosen to use one that is gender-specific - that is their intention. When a man calls another man a bitch - there is usually a reason for this choice of word. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Peace Date: 21 Mar 06 - 09:17 PM '"They and themselves" is the more common way of saying it nowadays, but it's incorrect grammar by the old established rules that I was taught when I was in school.' Would you explain or give an example, SVP, LH? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Little Hawk Date: 21 Mar 06 - 07:34 PM "They and themselves" is the more common way of saying it nowadays, but it's incorrect grammar by the old established rules that I was taught when I was in school. To say to a dog "Lay down!" is incorrect also. It should be "Lie down!", but practically every North American now says "lay down" for some reason when he (or she*) (*happy now?) means "lie down". It seems that incorrect grammar is becoming more generally acceptable lately than correct grammar. Interesting. Could this be part of the American Dream of "just plain folks" who talk "plain" being better people than "eggheads" and "liberal intellectuals" who use proper English? Why do plain people talk "plain" when they used to talk plainly? "Where have all the adverbs gone, long time passing..." (grin) I wonder if it will soon be considered more acceptable to say "nookyular" than to say "nuclear"? (new-clear) Could be. I mean, hell, the President says nookyular and so do a majority of the people who voted for him and even maybe of people who didn't. I figure nuclear is on its way out. Then there's February! Can ANYONE out there pronounce it properly? It's Feb - ROO - ARY. Now tell me that's hard. Is it really that hard to say Feb - ROO - ARY? Well, gosh, it must be hard, because only one in a hundred people I know can manage it. Maybe we should just drop the "r" and make it Febuary instead? Oh well, it's all essentially arbitrary anyway. Customs change and so does language, as is evident when one reads Shakespeare or the King James Bible. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Georgiansilver Date: 21 Mar 06 - 07:03 PM Allthe ass or arse holes I have got close to have been female. So am I fit to comment? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Peace Date: 21 Mar 06 - 06:58 PM LOLOL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: jacqui.c Date: 21 Mar 06 - 06:58 PM Not in the UK it doesn't. Trust me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Little Hawk Date: 21 Mar 06 - 06:56 PM "Arsehole" sounds friendlier to me... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Peace Date: 21 Mar 06 - 06:52 PM LOL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Richard Bridge Date: 21 Mar 06 - 06:50 PM PS. Correction. It was "Arseholes" since we were English. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Richard Bridge Date: 21 Mar 06 - 06:49 PM In the last lawfirm I owned, it was part of our code of conduct that the terms "prick" and "cunt" should not be used as terms of abuse since they were gender-discriminatory, and "Asshole" was obligatory in lieu since everyone had one. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Azizi Date: 21 Mar 06 - 06:49 PM Wait a minute. Why should Peace get all that money? I think all of us 'Catters should get a share of that winfall. It's not fair that Peace gets the whole pot. ...Oh, you meant world peace? Sorry about that. My bad. I'm all for world peace! {So how can I get some of that money you were talking about?} |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: jacqui.c Date: 21 Mar 06 - 06:41 PM Right on LH! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Little Hawk Date: 21 Mar 06 - 06:24 PM I suggest that we all be paid 10 cents for every wasted word typed on this forum in the past year...with a deduction, of course, for those wasted words we ourselves contributed. This would make us all rich. This would ease our existential stress a little and allow us to generously donate to worthy charities around the world. Soon world peace would be achieved, and an end to poverty. Let's do it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: jacqui.c Date: 21 Mar 06 - 06:16 PM From the female point of view the use of the male pronoun is normal and doesn't bother me one bit. So long as the sentence makes sense who the hell cares? Joe - can we have a share of that $940,000 - we have to scroll past all those pastes - makes for a very sore scrolling finger! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Amos Date: 21 Mar 06 - 06:07 PM There are no two ways about it. The word "man" refers to the species as well as the subset of males within that species. Similarly, the pronoun "him" refers to an unspecified person about whom gender is not a meaningful attribute in the context. All the arguments that females of the species act like a different species are just specious (pardon the pun). A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Peace Date: 21 Mar 06 - 05:42 PM Her and Rosie . . . . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Little Hawk Date: 21 Mar 06 - 05:39 PM We don't have that problem with Hillary, thankfully. What a woman, eh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Peace Date: 21 Mar 06 - 04:37 PM With him and Thatcher, you'd have a hard time telling the genders apart . . . . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: The Shambles Date: 21 Mar 06 - 03:25 PM But let me tell you, this gender thing is history. You're looking at a guy who sat down with Margaret Thatcher across the table and talked about serious issues. George H. W. Bush |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 21 Mar 06 - 02:35 PM I've gone with fuckwits a number of times and usually regretted it afterwards. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Peace Date: 21 Mar 06 - 02:26 PM Where is fuckwit going? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: catspaw49 Date: 21 Mar 06 - 02:21 PM Why don't we all just go with "Fuckwit?" Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Bill D Date: 21 Mar 06 - 02:19 PM 940,000??? wow...can he quote ME next year?,,,huh? huh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Little Hawk Date: 21 Mar 06 - 02:15 PM You're pretty much right, Bee-Dub, but I have heard a woman refer to another woman as an asshole on occasion. It's not common, but it can happen. Perhaps one reason that many common swear words are conventionally directed only at men is simply that for a lengthy period of Western social history women were not expected to use those words at all...nor were those words to be used on them...it was considered improper. Those days are long gone, but a subtle effect may linger on in people's instinctive use of language. What about "bastard"? It's hardly ever used with the literal meaning (born out of wedlock) intended any more. It's normally used nowadays simply to indicate that one finds a person unlikeable, undesirable, unfair, dishonest, etc...in other words, as a measure of his character, not his birth status. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Joe Offer Date: 21 Mar 06 - 02:12 PM MMario very aptly stated the rules of the Queen's English:
But Shambles, you have far exceeded your quote quota of copy-paste Joe Offer quotations lately. You get one free one a day, which is a very generous allowance. Any copy-paste quotations exceeding that limit are subject to a $10 fee. If the quote is used as the foundation of an entire new thread (such as in this thread), the fee is $100. I think you owe me $940,000. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Clinton Hammond Date: 21 Mar 06 - 01:58 PM "Especially since "bitch" usually works just fine." Yer missing the #1 option! LOL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 21 Mar 06 - 01:54 PM Many "swear words" have come to be associated with men exclusively, even though they're technically "gender-neutral". There are probably just as many female bastards, in the literal sense of the word, as there are males. But nobody ever calls a woman a "bastard" as an insult. Same with "asshole". From a biological standpoint, there are almost the same number of female assholes as male assholes, but I'd never refer to a woman as an "asshole". Especially since "bitch" usually works just fine. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: MMario Date: 21 Mar 06 - 01:49 PM Peace - now try it in the singular. *grin* |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Little Hawk Date: 21 Mar 06 - 01:45 PM Are all assholes male? No. Clearly not. You are quibbling, Roger, about a phraseology typical to the English language for a very long time, until recently in fact, when people began looking for gender offences under every possible twig, rock, and leaf. MMario has already explained it succinctly. You are looking for an offence where none was given or intended. The statement you object to is simply correct English grammar, period. It does not imply that all assholes are male, except in a mind determined to find offence where none exists. I think that your objection is a bit like an atheist objecting to a variety of common expressions such as "God knows..." because he cannot abide anyone using the word "God", as it offends him! Awwwww....the poor, suffering atheists, having to put up with such a terrible situation... ;-D In other words, I think you're being just a wee bit silly. But, hey, that won't stop this thread from hitting 50 or so posts, will it? With luck, maybe even 300 posts. Have fun. ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: The Shambles Date: 21 Mar 06 - 01:21 PM In the quoted statement it would seem to be easier to use 'they' and 'themselves'. Perhaps the male gender was intentionally chosen so as not to risk giving any offence to certain female posters or to intentinally give offence to certain male posters? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Peace Date: 21 Mar 06 - 01:18 PM 'Good point, Kat. I don't want to start another battle about Guest posting, but if registered Mudcatters start too many copycat threads, they risk building themselves a reputation as assholes. That tends to encourage them not to act like assholes.' It ain't that difficult, but maybe it WAS meant to refer to a male, so there ya go. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: The Shambles Date: 21 Mar 06 - 01:15 PM The circumlocations required to make the qouted statement genderless are either cumbersome and awkward, or incorrect grammatically. Where is the the problem in using words like them or their? Or people folk, persons etc etc? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Wesley S Date: 21 Mar 06 - 01:08 PM Is this one of those copycat threads y'all have been talking about ? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: MMario Date: 21 Mar 06 - 01:08 PM The circumlocations required to make the qouted statement genderless are either cumbersome and awkward, or incorrect grammatically. If you use the feminine then you are excluding the male. So the correct and logical manner would be to use the male pronouns. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Peace Date: 21 Mar 06 - 01:06 PM "In English, unless specified otherwise, the male includes the female automatically." Careful where you say that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: The Shambles Date: 21 Mar 06 - 01:03 PM In English, unless specified otherwise, the male includes the female automatically. In these days of sexual equality - is this still really the case? IMO it is just lazyness. There are enough words in the English language for us to use where no reference to gender is made at all. It would surely be better to use use words that do have a gender destinction - only when there is some reason to make this distinction? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: MMario Date: 21 Mar 06 - 12:51 PM In English, unless specified otherwise, the male includes the female automatically. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Are all assholes male? From: Clinton Hammond Date: 21 Mar 06 - 12:50 PM not by a long shot |
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Subject: BS: Are all assholes male? From: The Shambles Date: 21 Mar 06 - 12:49 PM Good point, Kat. I don't want to start another battle about Guest posting, but if a registered Mudcatter starts too many copycat threads, he risks building himself a reputation as an asshole. That tends to encourage him not to act like an asshole. Are all assholes male? |
