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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Bobert Date: 19 Jul 13 - 09:10 PM That's a big 10/4, Ol'ster... No one should have a gun if they are a nut, a criminal or don't have a clue how to use it safely... The NRA says that can't happen... BS... It won't happen if we don't put in the hard work against the NRA to make it happen... BTW, GUEST... There's time for music and time for standing up for what is right... We knew that in the 60s and it still stands today... Your youtubes won't bring Trayvon Martin back... It won't stop the 100,000 Americans who will be shot this year... Get off this little head-in-the-sand games... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: olddude Date: 19 Jul 13 - 09:54 PM I think myself that things can always change for the better. I should have also added I am an ex computer science full professor. ya know I am everything the Amish shun and detest but yet they accept me as one of them. If they can do it and it is 180 degrees against everything they stand for. maybe just maybe black and while people can take some time to look at each other and say, this hasn't been working well over the last 150 years. How are your kids doing ... wanna go for a beer .. I mean when you know someone then everything changes. Now lets fix the darn gun laws. Take that power from the states that cannot get it right and put it in the Federal hands with some sense perhaps. I can only pray |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Bobert Date: 19 Jul 13 - 10:03 PM 10/4, part B... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 13 - 12:16 AM I watched the music video, and it was really cool. Legend played well on it...BTW, Bobert, if you watched the music video at all, you might have noticed the expression on the faces of the singers, in the background..both white and black..and yet you posted: Bobert: "BTW, GUEST... There's time for music and time for standing up for what is right..." I thought black and white singing together IS what is standing up for right!!!...Now just sharing your hate, has NOTHING to do with DOING 'what is right'!!..or 'left'... GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 20 Jul 13 - 07:56 AM ""The one who spoke out stated that originally, there were two that thought Zimmerman was guilty of manslaughter and one who thought Zimmerman was guilty of 2nd degree murder. 2 + 1 -=3 , "three jurors believing he was guilty of either manslaughter or second-degree murder, " The REMAINING THREE thought Zimmerman was innocent. Thus "The jury was initially split -- three and three along the line of guilt -- she said" YOUR claim that "The juror who was interviewed said that initially they were three to two for conviction." IS FALSE and a lie. Are you pretending to be stupid, or are you really that dense???"" Look mate, my comment was based in, and responding to YOUR post about three to four days ago, in which none of what you have said above appeared. If you didn't post it, how could my response to what you DID POST be a lie, or stupid? You have a remarkable capacity for dishonest goal post shifting. Don T. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Lighter Date: 20 Jul 13 - 08:41 AM Has anyone noticed, as I have, that not *one* of emotional TV talking heads has explained exactly *why*, based on evidence in the trial itself, they're so sure the verdict was wrong? All they do is talk about race, an "innocent child" etc., etc. The details you most likely to heard before the trial were mostly *false.* The time-line between calls, the distance to Martin's house from the site of the fight, the testimony of the only eyewitness to get close (who saw Martin "grinding and pounding" Zimmerman's head on the concrete), the reluctance - at first - of even Martin's brother and father to identify his voice on the tape, Zimmerman's waiving of his Miranda rights, the clear photos of his injuries (not released till many months later), the lack of any injury to Martin except the gunshot (and a skinned knuckle), the testimony of one of the country's most distinguished forensic pathologists, the fact that it took Zimmerman 45 seconds of crying for help before he shot (whether or not Martin had grabbed for his gun), all combined to create *more* than reasonable doubt that he'd committed the crimes he was charged with. The evidence showed *beyond a reasonable doubt* that Martin didn't go home when he could have, came back to confront Zimmerman, broke his nose, then kept pounding his head on the concrete even after a neighbor came within twenty feet and yelled at them to stop because he was calling 911! And the prosecution - and now others - now describe the 17-year-old Martin as "an innocent child." (Florida prosecutes plenty of 17-year-olds as adults for violent crimes.) The photos of Martin that are usually shown were taken when he was about fourteen years old. Now why would that be? In 2012 he was 5' 11" and taller than Zimmerman. You don't have to believe me. You don't even have to believe the jury, which deliberated for 16 long hours after hearing many long days of testimony. But if you're going to protest, you'd better know what came out in court, in the presence of a vigorous and dedicated prosecution, rather than falling for the hyped-up media version with its predictable and pre-selected victim and villain. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Bobert Date: 20 Jul 13 - 08:42 AM GfinS, I remember well the 60s... We wore a lot of hats... Anti-war... Civil & human rights... But we also had our music and our weed... We understood there was a time to reap and a time to sew... But that took a consciousness that respected both... There were people back then who didn't have that consciousness and were clueless as to why the folks who did didn't want to be around them... It's kinda like a band-mate who either isn't in tune or can't hold the beat... If the music video had been "For What Its Worth" then, yeah, maybe it would have been appropriate... But the video detracted from the discussion and added nothing at all to the discussion... But you won't get this because I fear that you were one of the folks in the 60s who thought it was all about sex, drugs and rock & roll and missed the real important stuff... Timing is everything... Like I said, "A time to reap, a time to sew"... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 20 Jul 13 - 08:47 AM ""Don't just question authority--question every fucking thing."" All very wel Jeri! But when you point up all the inconsistencies in the way that evidence was permitted or debarred, and every single piece is slanted to disadvantage one side of the contest, that is not opinion, neither is it Media misdirection. It is reported court record, and it is redolent of corruption. If it is not based upon racial prejudice, what possible other reason makes any logical sense. Especially when you see where, and under what authorities it took place. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 20 Jul 13 - 09:20 AM ""But if you're going to protest, you'd better know what came out in court, in the presence of a vigorous and dedicated prosecution, rather than falling for the hyped-up media version with its predictable and pre-selected victim and villain."" The major problem is that your cleverly constructed apologia for Zimmerman's actions, fails to take into account the evidence which was deliberately kept from the jury, such as the fact: 1. That it was Zimmerman who had the martial arts experience. 2. That Zimmerman outweighed Martin by three and a stone. 3. That at 29, Zimmerman was nothing like the weak older man posited by the defence. 4. That Zimmerman had a history of violence which included stalking an ex girlfriend and assaulting her when confronted. 5. That Zimmerman had previously assaulted a police officer, while resistin arrest. 5. That two qualified voice recognition experts who gave the opinion that the voice crying help was more likely to be Trayvon Martin, were not allowed to testify. 6. That eight of Zimmerman's friends WERE allowed to testify that it was his voice. This whole trial was conducted in a manner completely unsatisfactory, except of course to those determined to acquit. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Bobert Date: 20 Jul 13 - 09:28 AM There are folks who are for just letting this pass because, they say, the jury has spoken... Fine for them... That takes care of the Florida justice side of the deal... But it does nothing to address the injustice side of the deal and that's why we're not just letting it pass... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 20 Jul 13 - 09:28 AM That should read three and a half stone. DT |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 20 Jul 13 - 09:39 AM What Bobert said!! Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Greg F. Date: 20 Jul 13 - 09:45 AM The "jury had spoken" in the Captain Alfred Dreyfus case too, and the verdict had huge public support. Plenty more similar examples down to the present day. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Greg F. Date: 20 Jul 13 - 09:46 AM On second thought, wonder how Beardy views the Dreyfus affair? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 13 - 10:59 AM Part of the 'withheld evidence'......... maybe the real reason Trayvon punched Zimmerman.... I think the 'so-called' liberals might just get split into the 'so-called liberals' and even 'lefter so-called liberals'....with egg on their faces. GfS P.S. Homophobia, anyone?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Greg F. Date: 20 Jul 13 - 11:07 AM Yeah, GeistInsanity, you and Limbaugh make a good pair of total fucking idiots. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 13 - 11:16 AM Follow-up.... ...and more of Trayvon's remarks on phone to follow...which I heard on the radio, but there is nothing online, as of yet...but shall be coming. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 13 - 11:19 AM Greg F, I KNEW you'd be bitching(along with a couple of others), but I did NOT quote Limbaugh. Is right from the mouth of JEANTEL, on the Piers Morgan Show! Don't blame me, I didn't say it! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 13 - 11:24 AM Oh, and when I said I heard it on the radio, it WASN'T the Rush Limbaugh Show, either. It was on the news out of Albuquerque. LMAO!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 13 - 11:57 AM And NOW it's starting to make a LOT more SENSE now!!! Remember I posted this, at the beginning, when i first got on..: From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 10 Jul 13 - 11:01 AM Dream on. You guys are ignoring the circumstances that led to him being shot, and trying to make it solely a case of him being shot, because Martin was black. Do you think Zimmerman would have shot him, if Martin wasn't on top of him, beating him up??? Yes, I agree that it was a lack of good judgement..on both of their parts. Yes, it would have never happened, if Zimmerman had remained in his car, against the advice of the officer who advised him to stay in his car, BUT, Zimmerman getting out of his car, against that advice, was in itself NOT breaking a law. It was dumb, yes, and he followed Martin, which eventually led to him being assaulted by Martin, according to the evidence...but following a person, does NOT give permission, common sense, or reason, for that person to turn around and accost the guy following you...and technically, and legally, Martin was the first to break the law, by doing so. It was a stupid act of bravado, as was Zimmerman trying to take the law in his own hands. IT WAS ALL STUPID!" As it is turning out, Martin called Zimmerman a 'Cracker', which is a racial term, and a few other names, which I heard on the news, which is slang for a homosexual, who he was thinking was going to rape him...so he figured he wasn't armed, just a 'faggot'(Trayvon's words) who needed to 'get his fuckin' ass whooped'(Trayvon's words). Do you think that might just explain WHY Trayvon didn't call 911?????? WHY Trayvon elected to assault Zimmerman???? So is it that Trayvon was the homophobic racist who attacked Zimmerman? Sound like it to me...BUT.... ..as I POSTED BEFORE: IT was ALL acts of stupidity, all the way around, and BOTH of them, misreading the moment and circumstances!! ..and I posted that, before the trial was even over! guest from SANITY! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: number 6 Date: 20 Jul 13 - 12:04 PM "cracker" .... I thought it referred to poor southern farmers. "The President say, "Little fat man isn't it a shame what the river has done To this poor crackers land." ... exerpt from Louisiana by Randy Newman. biLL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Greg F. Date: 20 Jul 13 - 12:16 PM I think Newman's "Sail Away" might be more relevant to the discussion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 13 - 12:20 PM "Usage of the term "cracker" generally differs from "hick" and "hillbilly" because crackers reject or resist assimilation into the dominant culture, while hicks and hillbillies theoretically are isolated from the dominant culture. In this way, the cracker is similar to the redneck.[citation needed] In the African American community, "cracker" is a racist term for whites. Since 1900 "cracker" has also been used as a proud or jocular self-description. With the huge influx of new residents from the North, "cracker" is now used informally by some white residents of Florida and Georgia ("Florida cracker" or "Georgia cracker") to indicate that their family has lived there for many generations. However, the term "white cracker" is not always used self-referentially and remains a racist term to many in the region." GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 13 - 12:23 PM "Dumb-ass cracker" was Trayvon's context, and words. Personally, I liked the video with blacks and whites singing together, and smiling! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Bobert Date: 20 Jul 13 - 01:02 PM So calling a white guy who is following you a creepy ass cracker is a capital offense??? Murder is murder, folks, and any effort to sanitize what Zimmerman got away with is wrong... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Bobert Date: 20 Jul 13 - 01:05 PM BTW, the video of blacks and whites singing together does not make up for this murder either and is, quite frankly, disgustingly disrespectful to Trayvon Martin... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 13 - 01:26 PM Give it up, Bobert...that's NOT the reason! No wonder evidence was withheld!! Also it could explain the President's demeanor during his speech. Sooner or later this was going to come out!..and sooner or later all the 'so-called liberal' agitators, would have a lot of 'Jim Crow' to eat!!! This had to do with a over zealot wannabe cop, being assaulted by a kid, who happened to be black, who wanted to teach, what he perceived as a would be homosexual rapist, a lessen by beating the shit out of him, and the wannabe cop shooting him out of self defense, as he was getting the crap kicked out of him, on the ground. Makes sense to me...but STILL does NOT justify the whole stupid chain of events..but at least explains it!!.. ...and by the way, this SHOULD have come out in the trial! Shame shame on the prosecution and idiots trying to politicize this into merely a racial profiling! Now, the way it is, the 'so-called liberals' need to decide about whose 'rights' were being violated, homosexuals?..Blacks?? Hispanics?? Licensed gun owners? and have to choke on their own bullshit!! In other words, you've been exploited and used...AGAIN....just like them there 'hippies' in the '60s!! Good night, Gracie! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 13 - 01:48 PM Just in case you didn't understand the lyrics.....read carefully! Ballad of a Thin Man You walk into the room With your pencil in your hand You see somebody naked And you say, "Who is that man?" You try so hard But you don't understand Just what you'll say When you get home Because something is happening here But you don't know what it is Do you, Mister Jones? You raise up your head And you ask, "Is this where it is?" And somebody points to you and says "It's his" And you say, "What's mine?" And somebody else says, "Where what is?" And you say, "Oh my God Am I here all alone?" Because something is happening here But you don't know what it is Do you, Mister Jones? You hand in your ticket And you go watch the geek Who immediately walks up to you When he hears you speak And says, "How does it feel To be such a freak?" And you say, "Impossible" As he hands you a bone Because something is happening here But you don't know what it is Do you, Mister Jones? You have many contacts Among the lumberjacks To get you facts When someone attacks your imagination But nobody has any respect Anyway they already expect you To just give a check To tax-deductible charity organizations You've been with the professors And they've all liked your looks With great lawyers you have Discussed lepers and crooks You've been through all of F. Scott Fitzgerald's books You're very well read It's well known Because something is happening here But you don't know what it is Do you, Mister Jones? Well, the sword swallower, he comes up to you And then he kneels He crosses himself And then he clicks his high heels And without further notice He asks you how it feels And he says, "Here is your throat back Thanks for the loan" Because something is happening here But you don't know what it is Do you, Mister Jones? Now you see this one-eyed midget Shouting the word "NOW" And you say, "For what reason?" And he says, "How?" And you say, "What does this mean?" And he screams back, "You're a cow Give me some milk Or else go home" Because something is happening here But you don't know what it is Do you, Mister Jones? Well, you walk into the room Like a camel and then you frown You put your eyes in your pocket And your nose on the ground There ought to be a law Against you comin' around You should be made To wear earphones Because something is happening here But you don't know what it is Do you, Mister Jones? Copyright © 1965 by Warner Bros. Inc.; renewed 1993 by Special Rider Music Rather both prophetic and apropos!...on several levels! gfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Greg F. Date: 20 Jul 13 - 03:51 PM And that posting of an intirely irrelevent Dylan tune has what to do witth anything, GeistInsanity? Dogshit-R-Us. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: olddude Date: 20 Jul 13 - 04:02 PM a better question to ask, is how can this be avoided in the future to any black, or white, or purple or any other person right. I can only strongly suggest a federal hand gun carry law. I talked to a cop from Florida that I know. He said the stand your ground stuff occurred because people got mad at the high number of drug related break in's and subsequent homicides. The state then passed that law. The downside to "no good deed goes unpunished" is that they laid a good foundation for murderers to get off. Now stand your ground was not part of this case but it will be again in the future sadly. A federal carry law would be a good step I think. but who knows maybe the feds won't get it right either but maybe they will at least talk to people who know about such things unlike NY before making laws. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Ebbie Date: 20 Jul 13 - 04:35 PM Two irrefutable things: #1: Had Zimmerman- a Night WATCHman - stayed in his vehicle after reporting a 'suspicious' character, it would not have happened. #2: Had Zimmerman been wearing a uniform that indicated his standing, it would most probably not have happened. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Lighter Date: 20 Jul 13 - 04:57 PM Had Martin kept walking home, it wouldn't have happened either. (He could have been there in between 30 and 60 seconds.) Nor if he hadn't gone back, broken Zimmerman's nose, and "pounded" his head on the sidewalk. Zimmerman didn't chase him, at least according to the phone-call timeline, and didn't strike him, at least according to the autopsy. Not every tragedy is a crime. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 13 - 05:12 PM ..and if the 'so-called liberals' weren't deceived, and betrayed, and used, by the banksters/multinational/political indoctrinators, who are also doing the 'so-called conservatives', it would have been just another, needless, stupid crime, that nobody would have been hating each other over, too...and/or..is being manipulated, so more of it can/will happen..... ....and you 'thought' folk music had no more place??? IF EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Ebbie Date: 20 Jul 13 - 05:54 PM 1 2 3 4 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Ebbie Date: 20 Jul 13 - 05:59 PM Your "if's", GfS, are dumb, imo. Should I say that IF the sun had not shone today, it would have been cloudy? One expects a 29-year-old to have and exercise better judgment than someone who has just turned 17. That is what we call the difference between a boy and a man. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Greg F. Date: 20 Jul 13 - 06:04 PM Nor if he hadn't gone back, Please supply evidence that Martin "went back" - other than the self-serving testimony of documented multiple liar Zimmerman. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: bobad Date: 20 Jul 13 - 06:39 PM If Trayvon was a white man wearing a suit he'd still be alive. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 20 Jul 13 - 07:00 PM Vehement posters here have invented their own scenario, repetitively posted, which is at odds with the witness statement and Zimmerman's injuries. Acquittal was the logical outcome. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Bobert Date: 20 Jul 13 - 07:31 PM Yo, Lighter, Were you there??? Funny, I don't recall you being called to the stand... But you seem so sure of exactly what happened... You are coming off as a racist who devalues the life of a black teenager just trying to walk home from the store... I mean, your assertions are mythology... Tell us where you got these so-called facts... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Bobert Date: 20 Jul 13 - 07:34 PM Yo, GfinS, You are spinning faster than a top on crack... Your guesses suck as bad as your spin... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 13 - 08:20 PM Snap now, and avoid the rush....it'll all come out! Remember when the message in the music was AHEAD of the curve??? How long did it take you to flash before?? Did you run out of your mojo?? The Girlfriend was purposely abridged in her testimony. Those 'lawyers' should be disbarred! They deceived the whole fucking nation, and got the suckers to champion the lie! Protest music, anyone? Me, I only compose instrumentals, anymore. I try to say it without words, like I used to...besides, when the takeover is done, don't you think they'd like some good music???? Funny, we haven't heard from Firth, yet....the ramrod distractor is hiding?? (That should flush him out!) GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 13 - 08:30 PM ..along with the, beardedbruce might have a few things to post, as well! Not guessing, Bobert...heard it!..and posted links to support it....it's just that your corporate owned media hasn't got it up yet, how to spin this one, and keep the deception going. Do you think the president didn't know this information, when he gave his speech?? what else AREN'T you being told?? How bad the economy is?? Race riots?? Gun issues??..all converging together??? You might know this...written in similar times..for similar reasons Did you forget?? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Bobert Date: 20 Jul 13 - 08:38 PM You, GfinS, at least have the right song for the occasion... Just seeing black and white singers together singing the wrong song sends the wrong message... The economy??? Your Republicans have stymied one jobs bill after another... The non-flat-earth economists said it would take $1.3T in stimulus to get US out of the rut... Your buddies said no... Even Europe now gets it that your Republican austerity is stupid... Now back the issues at hand... Stick with the real issues, GfinS, and leave the oberta dictum alone... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 13 - 09:32 PM I am...it's all one big mess....even orchestrated! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 20 Jul 13 - 11:03 PM Here, bobert..Here's a ditty for ya'.......... Hey, Red Queen, you out there??? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 21 Jul 13 - 02:16 AM Damn Hippies!! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy Date: 21 Jul 13 - 04:41 AM The verdict was indeed the correct one. I am pleased with the outcome, I was never in any doubt of his innocence. One has to ask themselves how they would react when confronted with this type snooping about their property. When this type comes into an area such as this, you can be sure criminal damage or robbery in their motivation and intent. We all expected this shower would hit the streets running to play the old race card after the verdict was read, even the boy in the White House threw his threepence worth in. I wouldn't worry too much about it, they will go on their usual burning and wrecking spree for a few days, the police are more than capable of dealing with it if left alone to do so. It will soon blow over. My only hope is that British courts would take a similar approach in such cases, this is very unlikely due to political intervention by a government that has proven it has failed to serve it's own people. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: GUEST,TIA Date: 21 Jul 13 - 07:55 AM "even the boy in the White House" You are a despicable pig Mr. Kennedy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Bobert Date: 21 Jul 13 - 09:55 AM Ditto on the despicable pig comment... Sorry, GfinS, but that little ditty didn't do ditty for me... Too schmaltzy for my tastes... BTW, there's a major difference between "old hippies" and "old radicals"... Folks who weren't either really wouldn't understand that part because "old radicals" and "old hippies" did kinda look alike back then... Martin Luther King was very puzzled about "hippies" because they were pretty much apolitical and just wanted to be left alone... B~ (old radical) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Zimmerman defense-' Evidence withheld' From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 21 Jul 13 - 10:12 AM ""Makes sense to me...but STILL does NOT justify the whole stupid chain of events..but at least explains it!!.."" The fact that it makes sense to you doesn't actually improve its credibility. Don T. |
