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Donuel 17 Oct 08 - 07:30 PM
Donuel 17 Oct 08 - 07:47 PM
Donuel 17 Oct 08 - 07:50 PM
katlaughing 17 Oct 08 - 07:50 PM
Ed T 17 Oct 08 - 07:59 PM
CarolC 17 Oct 08 - 08:19 PM
Sorcha 17 Oct 08 - 08:54 PM
Donuel 17 Oct 08 - 08:56 PM
Donuel 17 Oct 08 - 09:00 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 17 Oct 08 - 09:07 PM
Donuel 17 Oct 08 - 10:11 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 17 Oct 08 - 10:14 PM
Donuel 17 Oct 08 - 10:20 PM
Donuel 17 Oct 08 - 10:26 PM
Donuel 17 Oct 08 - 10:39 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 17 Oct 08 - 11:06 PM
Bee-dubya-ell 17 Oct 08 - 11:33 PM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 17 Oct 08 - 11:40 PM
Jim Carroll 18 Oct 08 - 02:44 AM
Peace 18 Oct 08 - 02:51 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 18 Oct 08 - 02:54 AM
Peace 18 Oct 08 - 03:00 AM
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GUEST,Guest from Sanity 18 Oct 08 - 03:26 AM
Peace 18 Oct 08 - 03:27 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 18 Oct 08 - 03:34 AM
GUEST,Alextiefling 18 Oct 08 - 08:53 AM
Greg F. 18 Oct 08 - 09:43 AM
Bill D 18 Oct 08 - 10:06 AM
Donuel 18 Oct 08 - 10:43 AM
GUEST,Jason U 18 Oct 08 - 02:08 PM
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Subject: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 07:30 PM

Barbra Bachman House Republican; wants a Congressional Investigation of other anti American members who may also be consorting with terrorists. She wants the media to focus entirely on Obama's terrorist activities.

She ranted for 5 minutes on the Chris Matthews show tonight about the need ro root out domestic terrorists like Obama's associates.

Half truths can have a half life of hundreds of years.

Half truth examples.

Obama consorts with terrorists.

Mc Cain is pro America, Obama is running against McCain which makes Barack Hussein Obama anti American.

Leftists are all anti American. Radical leftists are traitors.

Only right wingers are Pro Americans.


A house divided makes for clear sailing of the ruling class.

This country has gone down this road before. HUAC the House UnAmerican Activities Commitee was successful in destorying the lives of Un Republican people.

Artists, writers and ordinary people were all caught in this net of fascism. Once they were merely called before the commitee the common practice was to have them lose their job lest the employer lose theirs. Joe McCarthy was never censured but did fall prey to a TV address by Edward R Murrow who was a prestigious version of today's Keith Oberman. A young lawyer by the name of Robert F Kennedy was Joe's assistant.

Half truths are nearly always 100% lies but they have a life of their own.

I can say sincerely that the Anti American cry will become the common accusation that will lead to great loss of life and livlihood if respondsible Republicans do nothing.

The Republican fascists are now so far over the top I do not see how Steven Colbert can effectively parody them anymore.

I certainly hope this anti american wave will cool off after the election. I fear not.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 07:47 PM

thank goodness we don;t hear,,,

John McCain knew Hitler.

John McCain has gotten himself and others bombed in the Pentagon
Lounge.

John Sidney McCain has the intials of Jesus Christ Messiah

Sarah Palin can not see Russia from her house, but she has stayed in a Holiday Inn.


It seems that as we are entering the most difficult econmic transition in everyon's lifetime, the Republican party is working as hard as they can to spread half truths that will scapegoat the left for the economy, the war, the suffering caused by the last 8 years and go so far as to encourage revenge, violence, civil war and a domestic meltdown that will be far worse than we might imagine now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 07:50 PM

Obama knew Willie Horton


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: katlaughing
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 07:50 PM

It will get sorted out, Donuel. There are too many good people working on it, now, and we have the internet, cell phones, blackberries, etc. which has brought on such a revolution in communications that we can never go backwards to the way it was when the HUAC was at hand.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Ed T
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 07:59 PM

John McCain invented key punch data processing!


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From: CarolC
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 08:19 PM

Typical fascist brownshirt tactics.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Sorcha
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 08:54 PM

I see it as McCain getting desperate....?


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 08:56 PM

We need to know the full relationship between John McCain and Ted Hagard, Tom Foley and Little Richard. Is there another reason why John refused to go home and wished instead to sleep with his room mates in Viet Nam?


We need an in depth expose' concerning John McCain visiting every single country in which the CIA has rendition torture chambers. Is he the Bush administration's expert on torture or not? Who else is a better authority?


We need to know exactly how much of the Wall Street bail out money was signed over to Cindy McCain.

We have not been told of the peculiar McCain associations with the Schemm Team. Why not? What is he hiding?

Why did Ronald Reagan begin to lose his faculties soon after a meeting with the middle aged Senator John McCain? What is the connection? Why are we not being told?

Senator McCain claims he is not George Bush. Yet do we have any proof. There have not been any pictures of them together for years now.


McCain does not even deny having oral sex with Sarah Palin,,,disgusting! And does he or does he not have a neck brace on his penis!!!!   We are not being told the TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 09:00 PM

Did you know that Barack Hussein Obama has fathered two african unamerican children out of his wedlock?   I thought not.

What did Jeramiah Wright have to do with bin Laden's speechs?
Who is writing for who?


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 09:07 PM

Yeah, and I got a autographed 'Double Fantasy'(which I do), does that mean Mr. Lennon was consorting with me??..and he was investigated by the Nixon Administration.....He was such an enemy!!(?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 10:11 PM

Ohio robo call

Did you know that Barack Obama has personally killed 17 babies with his own hands by signing a law that denied life saving treatment for aborted babies that survived?


SNL

Did you know that Barack Obama will bomb the white house and build a pyramid in its place?


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 10:14 PM

Well I'll be!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 10:20 PM

Did you know that Amos created a similar thread called mommy where do lies come from?
He was not the slightest bit folksy! He used elitist $10 words and wrote them from a compound in one of the most anti American strongholds of the country.

We need to know who Amos pals around with. Is it Andy? Is he hiding Willie Horton? We just don't know.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 10:26 PM

US going for a ride picture


Did you know Obama is a master HYPNOTIST? HYPNO THE RAPIST link


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 10:39 PM

By the way, I really was an expert in Eriksonian hypnosis going bafck 20 years now.

Barack uses a subdued but honest rhetoricical style but includes no PHS of any kind save for "you need to vote".


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 11:06 PM

Deep Thoughts For Those Who Take Life Way Too Seriously:
    1. Save the whales. Collect the whole set.
    2. A day without sunshine is like night.
    3. On the other hand, you have different fingers.
    4. 42.7 percent of all statistics are made up on the spot.
    5. 99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name.
    6. Remember, half the people you know are below average.
    7. He who laughs last thinks slowest.
    8. Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm.
    9. The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese in the trap.
    10. Support bacteria. They're the only culture some people have.
    11. A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.
    12. Change is inevitable, except from vending machines.
    13. If you think nobody cares, try missing a couple of payments.
    14. How many of you believe in psycho-kinesis? Raise my hand.
    15. OK, so what's the speed of dark?
    16. When everything is coming your way, you're in the wrong lane.
    17. Hard work pays off in the future. Laziness pays off now.
    18. Every one has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film.
    19. How much deeper would the ocean be without sponges?
    20. Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
    21. What happens if you get scared half to death twice?
    22. I couldn't repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder.
    23. Why do psychics have to ask you for your name?
    24. Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened.
    25. Just remember -- if the world didn't suck, we would all fall off.
    26. Light travels faster than sound. That's why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 11:33 PM

Seems to me that Barbra Bachman, House Republican, may want "a Congressional Investigation of other anti American members who may also be consorting with terrorists" until the cows come home, but she ain't gonna get her wish unless the Republicans regain the majority. The Dems are in the driver's seat now and will probably be even more firmly in the driver's seat during the next Congress. How does Ms Bachman propose to get this investigation underway in the face of that little obstacle? Does she think she'll convince enough Democrats of the need for such an investigation that they'll vote to undertake it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 11:40 PM

Probably, if the connivers, can utilize it, rename it, and are paid enough for their vote.
Never under estimate the power of stupid people in either high positions, or in large crowds.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 02:44 AM

Is this really what American politics is about? - thank god for the Atlantic!
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Peace
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 02:51 AM

They should investigate Obama's friend. At the same time they should investigate Barbra Bachman for giving out more blowjobs than Lewinsky and for having made her living as a street prostitute for a few years.

It's not true, but so what? Let everyone play.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 02:54 AM

Hiya Peace, haven't seen you on here for a couple of days..


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Peace
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 03:00 AM

Hi, GfS

I have had computer difficulties. You doing OK?


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 03:08 AM

Yeah, doing alright...tired a little, but doing ok..you?


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Peace
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 03:23 AM

Same, same. I wish you'd join so we can message. But I understand if you care not to.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 03:26 AM

huh?....


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Peace
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 03:27 AM

Join Mudcat as a member. That way we could send messages back and forth for things that can't be discussed openly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 03:34 AM

SHOCK!!!! I would have never suspected.......


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Alextiefling
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 08:53 AM

Good bless America. I sees tis man McCain ins dat big house real real soon, yes indeedie sir I sure dos see it.

Victory must and will go to McCain and Palin. Americans aren't that fucked up they would vote for that boy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Greg F.
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 09:43 AM

another moron for jesus.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 10:06 AM

How far away IS 'Sanity', Guest? How often do you go back during your extended vacation with us?

I'll bet Peace is further away....



what? hidden metaphors? naaawwwww...


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 10:43 AM

Sanity, who wrote the 26 excellent aphorisms? or are they a collage?

reminds me of Steven Wright, who I used to pal around with in Harvard Square.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Jason U
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 02:08 PM

"You can always trust America to do the right thing...

"..............but only after exhausting every other alternative."

(Winston Churchill)1942.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 03:28 PM

Donuel, Steven Wright is one of my favorites. Must have been great hanging out with him. There was this one comic from HBO specials that hung out with us often for a while when I had another studio, in Southern California...He was so quick, and deep, we could never stop laughing..and that was anywhere, anytime!!

Jason, Great quote from Churchill!...thank you!

..and Bill D.....'sigh'


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 04:01 PM

Donuel, I just went back and re-read them. Some of them could have easily come from Steven Wright, or he may have used them. How many and which ones, I don't know...but his humor is brilliant..in my humble opinion!


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: jeffp
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 04:17 PM

I'm really surprised that I haven't seen a link to this story on Mudcat yet. I don't usually get involved in the political threads, but I read them for entertainment.

I'll stir the pot with this link:

http://www.slate.com/id/2202183/


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: ard mhacha
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 04:22 PM

Consorting with terrorists?, any person who voted for the Bush government.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 04:33 PM

Speaking of Heath care

http://www.bottomlinesecrets.com/store/mags/order_ths_mag.html?sk=231605&sid=Q093008A2B&l=3&am=1


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 05:04 PM

Jeffp, one of the names, in that article, Carillo, was also involved with Iran/Contra, which I've tried to 'enlighten' some Mudcatters on, but to no avail, the 'Kumbaya-ers' would rather deal with the petty.

In 1985-6, the Christic Institute, with their attorney, Daniel Sheehan, brought a lawsuit in Florida, involving the Contras, cocaine drug smuggling, and embezzled arms being shipped to the Contras, in exchange for drugs, by non other than Cuban nationalists, a segment of some CIA operatives, and the 'intelligence' community. When Hassenfuss's C5A cargo plane was shot down, by the Contras, this opened a whole bag of worms that exposed quite a bit of info, and the trail led to an airport, in Mena, Arkansas, during the Clinton governorship there. George Bush, Sr. who headed the CIA, and then, Vice President is certainly implicated. The hostages, in Iran, were released, when Reagan was being sworn in, was NOT BECAUSE he was being sworn in, but because, the hostage takers, who, one of the organizers, is presently the president of Iran...tortured a man to death, on video tape. His name was Buckley. As it turned out, he was the head of CIA covert operations, worldwide..and he spilled the beans, while being tortured to death. The hostage exchange, was a deal worked out, to keep that tape from being released, worldwide. Anyway, this is all now info that can be found..and a lot more, in a book 'Out of Control'..I could go on MUCH more about this, including the Bush/ Clinton ties, the 'Golden Triangle' and so on and so forth, which of course, brings us up to date, with some of the problems we are experiencing in the middle east...but I don't think the 'Kumbaya-ers' wouldn't want to be distracted from Sarah Palin, 'Joe the Plumber' and Troopergate, and other silly stuff. They are still working through the political ads, pundits, polls, MSNBC and FOX NEWS, stuff...and arguing about petty stuff, compared to this type of criminal activity, in the highest places in our government....Oh well! By the way, thanks for your post...it brought back old memories. I scoured it for a name I was familiar with, when discovering the facts about Iran/Contra...and there it was in your article!!...There is SO-O-O-OO-OO much more, but, well, I think I'll get back to see if Sarah has strangled a moose on Joe the Plumber's porch yet...while out of season...maybe that will crucify her, and make the crazed mob happy!


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 05:13 PM

..............and that's the short version!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 05:31 PM

"maybe that will crucify her, and make the crazed mob happy!"

GfS...*sigh*

There's lot's of folks who are appalled by Palin as a possible VP or more, but who don't get into over-the-top rhetoric & accusations.

Some of us feel an honest rendition of the truth 'should' be enough to demonstrate that she was a poor choice and is driven by attitudes not appropriate for even the offices she is currently in.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 06:22 PM

I was being facetious. I thought when you came back on you'd have commented on the prior post..which, is of course a bit more serious!


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 07:13 PM

I'll try when I have more time to do it right.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Amos
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 08:18 PM

(The Politico) It's unlikely that the American media will produce the "penetrating exposé" into whether members of Congress are "pro-America or anti-America" that Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) called for Friday, but there has been at least one consequence she may not have expected: Her congressional opponent, Democrat El Tinklenberg, has been showered with cash from all parts of the country — America, that is — as apparently insulted Americans respond to Bachmann's request.

"I can absolutely confirm that we have had in the last 24 hours donations from hundreds and hundreds of people from all over the country," said Tinklenberg campaign manager Anna Richey. "It's coming in so fast I can't get a hold on it and can't give a precise number. It's still coming in." At minimum, she said, $150,000 has so far been donated and she expects the total, which the campaign will release later today, to be far higher.

"It's overwhelming," said Richey. "I've gotten 600 e-mail messages into our info e-mail account in the last 12 hours. People are outraged." She said a number of the e-mails decried Bachmann's call for the investigation as modern-day McCarthyism. "People shared personal stories of how their parents were discriminated against" during that time, said Richey.

The messaes, she said, came from "Republicans, Democrats, people who professed to be out of work and struggling economically but wanted to give what they could."

Bachmann on Friday told MSNBC's Chris Matthews that Barack Obama is not the only anti-American member of Congress. "The news media should do a penetrating exposé and take a look. I wish they would. I wish the American media would take a great look at the views of the people in Congress and find out: Are they pro-America or anti-America? I think people would love to see an exposé like that," she said.

Richey said she's been amazed at the response. "It's really exciting, but unfortunate it had to come under these circumstances. This is what we've been trying to eliminate for months," she said of Bachmann


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 09:51 PM

Steven wasn't much a live wire personally. Mostly he just enjoyed good weed and getting laid. I found it admirable that he did his own laundry.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 09:55 PM

Not much of a live wire on stage..just hilarious!


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Oct 08 - 01:27 AM

in the voice of Steven Wright:

The only time McCain doesn't feel like he has to pee
is when he's peeing.

Instead of campaigns and elections, The candidates should play Plinko.

You'd think the stock market would lose its license after crashing everyday this month.

A motorcycle cop yelled "pull over'
I said no its a Cardigan.

How can you have an afterlife when you die. That would be an after death.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Oct 08 - 01:35 AM

Where is Olover North?

It could mean he's trading nookuler weapons for drugs for campaign cash, or the Mexican drug cartel is holding him hostage and W didn't pay.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Oct 08 - 02:57 AM

Awww, thanks Donuel..chuckled sitting here!

One for ya'(not Wright's, as far as I know)..

If all the world is a stage, where does the audience sit?


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Oct 08 - 11:19 AM

Ok, GfS, I am having trouble sorting out your referrent:

"I thought when you came back on you'd have commented on the prior post...."

Do you mean YOUR 'previous post' about health care? or the earlier part of the BIG post about Iran_Contra and supposed cover-up of a video of Buckley's torture?

At first glance, I don't see any clear relevance of either.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti Americans & Half truths
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 19 Oct 08 - 09:27 PM

Bill, the Iran/Contra one


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