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BS: World Cup Final

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ard mhacha 29 Jun 02 - 12:39 PM
Peter T. 29 Jun 02 - 06:52 PM
Mark Cohen 30 Jun 02 - 12:28 AM
Escamillo 30 Jun 02 - 12:32 AM
JedMarum 30 Jun 02 - 09:07 AM
Mark Cohen 30 Jun 02 - 09:07 AM
C-flat 30 Jun 02 - 09:14 AM
GUEST 30 Jun 02 - 09:21 AM
catspaw49 30 Jun 02 - 11:06 AM
Mark Cohen 30 Jun 02 - 02:40 PM
Liz the Squeak 30 Jun 02 - 03:43 PM
Wolfgang 01 Jul 02 - 10:32 AM
MudGuard 01 Jul 02 - 10:37 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup Final
From: ard mhacha
Date: 29 Jun 02 - 12:39 PM

Sorry I should have added the weight of the ball is 16ozs. Ard Mhacha.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup Final
From: Peter T.
Date: 29 Jun 02 - 06:52 PM

Surely a burning subject of controversy must be the quality and colour of the grass on the field of play. No wonder the Koreans nearly won.

Have the socks changed any over the years?

And is it my imagination, or are the chalk lines a few millimetres thicker than they used to be?

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup Final
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 30 Jun 02 - 12:28 AM

I agree, Peter, this discussion is sometimes a bit heavy on minutiae. Unlike, say, questions about the acoustic effect of fossil ivory bridge pins, or whether the fourth broadside version of Scarborough Fair was published in 1843 or 1844....[THAT'S A JOKE, FOLKS!!!]

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup Final
From: Escamillo
Date: 30 Jun 02 - 12:32 AM

It's very easy to determine Buenos Aires local time relative to Japan. When you ask "Where is Japan ? " somebody will tell you "uuuhh..it's in the World's ass", so you subtract 12 hours from their local time, and that's all.

Best luck, Wolfgang and all Germans ! I won't say whom I will support. The last time I supported England and USA, both they lost.

Un abrazo - Andrés


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup Final
From: JedMarum
Date: 30 Jun 02 - 09:07 AM

I'd like to have seen Germany win,but they just couldn't complete their chances. Brazil played an outstanding game; hats off to 'em. Brazil 2-0.

Samba time in Rio!


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup Final
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 30 Jun 02 - 09:07 AM

Not at all the final anyone expected...except for the outcome! Marcos looked like Kahn, Brazil didn't look like Brazil, both teams looked like choirboys...but Ronaldo looked like Ronaldo, and that did it.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup Final
From: C-flat
Date: 30 Jun 02 - 09:14 AM

Well, the best team won but I thought the Germans were unlucky not to score.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup Final
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Jun 02 - 09:21 AM

A fine game to finish with, Brazil worthy winners in the end, but Germany fairly atoned themselves for their previous boring displays. Rudi Voller was a dignified loser, and a wee bit of luck early in the game could have turned this game. Well played both teams for a good finish. Ard Mhacha.


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup Final
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Jun 02 - 11:06 AM

Pretty uninspired for the most part. Truthfully, the Third Place match between Korea and Turkey was much more exciting with both teams playing as if it were for the Cup. Anyway, it's been fun here and I thank you all for your expertise.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup Final
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 30 Jun 02 - 02:40 PM

I missed Korea/Turkey, because it was shown here on ABC at noon Saturday Hawaii time, which was during the first day of my USSF referee course! That was the only match of the entire tournament that ESPN did not broadcast live...very strange.

So, 'Spaw, when are you taking your first referee class?

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup Final
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 30 Jun 02 - 03:43 PM

I can't get this picture of Gervase in long shorts and a hooped jersey, with a big muddy ballprint on his head....

Oh nurse, the screens!!!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup Final
From: Wolfgang
Date: 01 Jul 02 - 10:32 AM

Good game in my eyes, and the correct winner. The German team will deservedly get an honourable reception when coming home today.

Three remarks: (1) Some of the best players of the world were visivbly tired after a long season. The best players had to play so often in the many cups that they were not as good as they could be. In former times, a tired French team would have been good enough to survive the first round anyway. But now only a team with is fit can survive for the differences are not as big as before. It is a pity that a player like Zidane could not be watched at least in the semi-final. They had to pay a too high price for playing too many games during the season.

(2) Before the world cup, Rudi Voeller, the German front-man coach said, the following teams are better than we and normally we cannot beat them right now: Argentine, Italy, Brazil, England, France, and perhaps Portugal. All others we can beat. That to beat (all) others was enough for reaching the final was kind of surprising.

(3) Kahn wants to be remembered as the best goalie ever. Two things at least are still missing. First, his long kicks too often reach the wrong team. Second, his burning ambition can have negative consequences. To think that with a torn ligament in one finger he still is better than the second best German goalie is a wrong judgement. His mistake came shortly after that injury. Without him, however, the quarter final would have been Germany's last game.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: BS: World Cup Final
From: MudGuard
Date: 01 Jul 02 - 10:37 AM

(2) we didn't beat all the others: Ireland drew against Germany...


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