BS: The evolution of white people

Subject: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 10:43 AM

First of all the author of this article is white. So white that albinos feel tan in comparison. Not quite as white as the young man who portrayed 'Powder', but white enough so that the light gold eyebrows and facial hair are invisible, providing no contrast at a distance. The perfect opposite would be the darkest almost blue black African with black hair.


The Evolution of White Peoples.

The homonids known as the modern humans began their journey north a number of different times. There was no mass migration but a great number of small independent journies that most often ended in death. For those who survived there was an overwhelming tendency toward an isolated in-breeding that magnified certain maladies while allowing for the fittest to breed a new generation.

The number of generations was over a million for some and as little as a quarter million generations for other tribes. The wide range of these isolated people who immigrated north span a range of time from half a million years to as little as 70,000 years. Basicly there was not one dispersal of people who vetured north but countless journies that became slightly more successful with experience and more refined communication.

The colder climate presented all the obvious deadly challenges of maintaining body heat but the level of diminishing sunshine is the key factor in the loss of pigmentation. Vitiman D production is central to bone formation and requires bright sunshine for vitamin D production. For those with less pigmentation their descendents became more successful in bone production with less light. Still the skeletal structure of these white tribes is markedly less robust than that of their African ancestors.

The European terrain provided more isolated pockets of certain in bred tribes while beyond the Caucasion Mountains the Asiatic plains allowed for more homogeny. The Neaderthalesque tribes could survive more extreme cold while other European tribes did not.
What was lost over hundreds of thousands of years compared to the first Africans who began the trip north was pigmentation.

What was gained was a tradition of warfare between the many isolated, in bred and very different appearing humans from Neanderthal, Cro Magnon and a wide rage of other pockets of tribes that had clung to survival through millenia of cold climates with low light conditions due to eruptions, impacts and massive fires.

Through the multiple generations of fighting it out and breeding it out between different tribes of light skinned people, the resulting white people had learned and inherited a deep seated tendency toward killing based on appearences that were different than the tribe while continuing. The more succesful agrarian societies became, in breeding became less of a genetic problem.

The practice of war is universal among humans but the light skinned races due to terrain and climate may have had a percent or two more practice of hostilities between people who had obvious physical differences. The early wars of the Huns, Monguls, Chinese, Persioans and Indians are legendary. Yet they are a moe homogeneous gene pool to begin with.

While all races developed partly through xenophobic exclusionism and warfare, the white race has a small fraction more experience in these traits. The seeds of destruction for these slightly more racist white tribes is in the acquired stupidity of self agrandizment compared to the thirsty acqusition of new ways of doing things with new materials through the developments made by different races and cultures.

In modern times there are still pockets of these throw backs of the original violent, racist and stupid white tribes. One such pocket is South Carolina. They have a tendency to start wars they can not win, attack people who will eventually vanquish them and yell things like "YOU LIE" at the most intellegent of the human species.

Anthropoligists and archeologists alike need to turn their attention to such pockets of white tribes while they are still in existence.
With policies like not caring for their people with pre existing illness or not educating those with pre existing ignorance, they will not survive much longer. Yet they are a curious window into the past that offers insight into the in bred violent cave dwellers of ice age Europe.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 11:00 AM

A joke, I presume?

It seems like an excuse for launching a diatribe against the most extreme examples of the Right Wing in the USA...and possibly for expiating some inherent sense of nagging guilt some people may carry about being "White" themselves (pink, that is...).

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: CarolC
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 11:03 AM

I'm spotted. Will only the white part of me die off and the tanned part live on?

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 11:04 AM

"Inbred" is one word. So is "proofreading".

Why should I lend any credence to the opinions of someone who can't use a dictionary?

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 11:13 AM

Carol - Let's hope not! (smile)

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: CarolC
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 11:18 AM

Funny thing is that I used to be white with brownish spots when I was younger. Now I'm brownish (in the parts that are exposed to the sun) with white spots. Although some of my white areas are now starting to develop their own brownish spots again. It's very strange.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 11:35 AM

Yes, I think your criticism of the "prejudiced snob" type is quite appropriate, SEWCL. After all, it's a hell of a lot more important WHAT a person is saying and what they mean by it than whether it has perfect spelling and grammar.

One can be erudite, highly educated, and gifted with a brilliant mastery of both rhetoric and vocabulary...and STILL be wrong! ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 11:44 AM

Hey, I've been to South Carlina and this ain't too far off the mark... But then again, white people ain't all that enlightened thru out the South in general... Very emotional, however... They couldn't care less about health care reform one way or another... Whatever "coach" says goes... If "coach" changes his mind tomorrow and is for health care reform then the monkeys will jump all over it... Poitics to Southerners, especially those in South Carolina, is nuthing but another sports event...

BTW, I'm sure that anthropologists would find a direct correlation between people eat to death with sports and those willing to go shoot other people... It's an emotional thang, ya'll...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 11:49 AM

First of all the author of this article is white. So white that albinos feel tan in comparison. Not quite as white as the young man who portrayed 'Powder', but white enough so that the light gold eyebrows and facial hair are invisible, providing no contrast at a distance. The perfect opposite would be the darkest almost blue black African with black hair.


The Evolution of White Peoples.

The hominids known as the modern humans began their journey north a number of different times. There was no mass migration but a great number of small independent journeys that most often ended in death. For those who survived there was an overwhelming tendency toward an isolated in-breeding that magnified certain maladies while allowing for the fittest to breed a new generation.

The number of generations was over a million for some and as little as a quarter million generations for other tribes. The wide range of these isolated people who immigrated north span a range of time from half a million years to as little as 70,000 years. Basically there was not one central dispersal of people who ventured north, but countless journeys that became slightly more successful with experience and more refined communication.

The colder climate presented all the obvious deadly challenges of maintaining body heat but the level of diminishing sunshine is the key factor in the loss of pigmentation. Vitamin D production is central to bone formation and requires bright sunshine for vitamin D production. For those with less pigmentation their descendents became more successful in bone production with less light. Still the skeletal structure of these white tribes is markedly less robust than that of their African ancestors.

The European terrain provided more isolated pockets of certain in bred tribes while beyond the Caucasian Mountains the Asiatic plains allowed for more homogeny. The Neaderthalesque tribes could survive more extreme cold while other European tribes did not. What was most visibly lost over hundreds of thousands of years compared to the first Africans who began the trip north was pigmentation. This loss of pigmentation also applies to the eyes and iris colors. Blue allowed more light into the eye. The evolution of vision differences has allowed white races to see a wider light spectrum, often into the ultra violet with an over all less vibrantly perceived intensity of colors as seen by darker races.

The differences in art portrays the difference in vision. Art by darker races uses the vibrant colors which to them virtually vibrant with intensity. White race art portrays pictures as they sense color

What was gained was a tradition of warfare between the many isolated, in bred and very different appearing humans from Neanderthal, Cro Magnon and a wide rage of other pockets of tribes that had clung to survival through millennia of cold climates with low light conditions due to eruptions, impacts and massive fires.

Through the multiple generations of fighting it out and breeding it out between different tribes of light skinned people, the resulting white people had learned and inherited a deep seated tendency toward killing based on appearances that were different than the tribe while continuing to breed with domestic animals and people alike.. The more successful agrarian societies became, in breeding became less of a genetic problem.

The practice of war is universal among humans but the light skinned races due to terrain and climate may have had a percent or two more practice of hostilities between people who had obvious physical differences. The early wars of the Huns, Mongols, Chinese, Persians and Indians are legendary. Yet they are a more homogeneous gene pool to begin with.

While all races developed partly through xenophobic exclusionism and warfare, the white race has a small fraction more experience in these traits. The seeds of destruction for these slightly more racist white tribes, is in the acquired stupidity of self aggrandizement compared to the thirsty acquisition of new ways of doing things with new materials through the developments made by different races and cultures as evident in the Chinese and Japanese culture.

In modern times there are still pockets of these throw backs of the original violent, racist and stupid white tribes. One such pocket is South Carolina. They have a tendency to start civil wars they can not win, publicly attack people unlike themselves, and yell things like "YOU LIE" at the most intelligent of the human species.

Anthropologists and archeologists alike need to turn their attention to such pockets of white tribes while they are still in existence.
With policies like not caring for their people with pre existing illness or not educating those with pre existing ignorance, they will not survive much longer. Yet they are a curious window into the past that offers insight into the in bred violent cave dwellers of ice age Europe.

In the United States concentrations of these white tribes are so obvious they are distinguished by the color Red when referring to such isolated pockets. The ironic quality of these people is that they often feel and speak most vehemently of the things they do not possess such as Family Values, Godliness, Real Americanism and Patriotism.
Statistics show this group has the highest divorce rate, The virtues of Godliness are least presented in this racial group in the sense they believe and practice more modes of hate toward very specific groups than those who believe there is no God who actually commit more pious acts than the highly fundamentally religious. Finally the patriotism they claim as their own is really a blind obedience to artificial human beings called Corporations who in turn offer no obedience or reverence for the country in which they reside.

Curiously some of these white tribes seem to know about their ongoing extinction. Currently they are building museum dioramas of themselves and dinosaurs.
They call these museums, Creationism Museums. Once again we hear the typical opposite word used even in the description of their extinction monuments. Their language betrays who they are as opposed to other more advance white races. For example if you ask a primitive white "who is the President of the United States?" they will be incapable of smiling.

While this race is dangerous to themselves and others it falls upon all of us to preserve what we can and protect the world from the worst. Even Zoos recognize this need.
This is why some progressive scientists suggest that the Glen Beck Museum of Absurd History could teach school children in the future what happens to people who abandon reason, higher education and rely only upon their bassist instincts.

So as we say goodbye to these people in their sunset days who worshipped obfuscation, obstructionism, racism, opposite language, fundamentalism and in breeding …let us all wave and smile at these people who once played a part in the human genome on Earth. While many of these primitive people may never know the meaning of the word egalitarian or social morality there are many other people who may share their appearance but have evolved into human beings like the rest of multi racial multi tasking modern humanity.


Hymnal music fades as we fade to black.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 12:09 PM

This was written in the spirit of Prof Irwin Cory and to be delivered by Kevin Nealon, who could carry it off with his mastery of subliminal speech, all the while pretending to use his blackberry.


as usual my wife thinks it is extremely not funny.
I think shes been to too many symposiums.

Certainly Glen Beck would consider this proof of all his fears.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 02:22 PM

Oh, are we evolved? I must have missed something!

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Don Firth
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 02:51 PM

Evolved? Well, not so anyone would notice.

Lemme see, now. . . .

I'd say I'm more beige than white, really. What some people might call "cosmic latté."

Scottish on my father's side, Swedish on my mother's side, I don't tan worth a hoot and I sunburn fairly easily. I have the same hair style as Captain Jean-Luc Picard. Some folks mistake this for baldness. Not so! It's a solar panel for a sex machine.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: robomatic
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 02:57 PM

so thanks for introducing a piece of crap onto the internet which apparently exists no where else.

this thread is thought pollution pure and simple. it has nothing to offer but confusion and lack of thought

Another hakman original

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 05:15 PM

Why that is the kindest thing you have ever said to me.

Why the change of heart?

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Jack Campin
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 06:26 PM

Donuel forgot to mention that a short penis is an evolutionary adaptation so you can pull out faster if you need to fight.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 06:31 PM

Oh, is that what it's for?

Hmm.

Ya learn somethin' new every day, by gosh. ;-) I hadn't realized before how advantageous it was.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Sep 09 - 09:45 PM

Damn Jack, thats gotta go in the final rewrite

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 05:30 AM

Definitely! (snarf!)

A shorter whanger is also less likely to get cut off or injured during combat with edged weapons. This explains why the British managed to conquer so much of the known world.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: akenaton
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 05:57 AM

I wouldn't know anything about that!

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 07:48 AM

Ah! 'Science' is so much easier when you can just ignore all that tiresome 'evidence' business and make it up as you go along. Give your imagination free rein and all will be well ... apart from creating and perpetuating 'racial' stereotypes and myths, that is ...

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 08:00 AM

BTW...What's the opposite of evolution??? Devolution??? Hmmmm??? "Devol"??? Hmmmmm???

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 09:39 AM

Devolution it is! And that's how the band "Devo" got their name.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Riginslinger
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 10:05 AM

"Ah! 'Science' is so much easier when you can just ignore all that tiresome 'evidence' business and make it up as you go along."


                Yes, that's the way the religious devotees do it!

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 10:19 AM

You have led such a sheltered life, Rig... ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Ed T
Date: 13 Sep 09 - 03:06 PM

Odd speculation here:


http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TA1HFDGR9UPS7QMLF

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Sep 09 - 05:30 AM

I think it entirely depends on your interpretation of 'evolved'.

I know many people of all colours who have barely evolved past the arse-sniffing, nose-picking, sibling-shagger stage of many of the lesser apes. And only one of them is in the BNP.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Mr Happy
Date: 08 Jan 10 - 08:35 AM

With the current extreme cold snap in many parts of the northern hemisphere, if through climate change, global warming??, or other variables, the freezeup conditions persist, I wonder what fresh geographical adaptations may develop among the predominantly caucasian groups?

Guesses?

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Jan 10 - 11:21 AM

They'll get the Repubs in Congress to introduce a bill outlawing extreme cold...

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Jan 10 - 12:49 PM

I'd like some more information on Carol's "white bits"(with brown spots)....:0)

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Jan 10 - 12:53 PM

:~(

Bad thread.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Amos
Date: 08 Jan 10 - 12:59 PM

Slap it on itslittle thready wrist, then, and send it off the front page without a dish of domesticated wisdom...



A

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jan 10 - 01:36 PM

Whew is it coooold, and wow is it teeeeny.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Gurney
Date: 08 Jan 10 - 02:39 PM

There should be an addendum.

Meanwhile, the peaceloving, homogeneous, non-tribal, inventive, socially-responsible, caring descendants of the peoples who remained in the cradle of mankind continue to live useful and healthy lives.
Everyone is invited to join them.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Jan 10 - 03:07 PM

For the one or two who might want to know a bit about the evolution of human skin coloration, read: The Evolution of Human Skin Coloration, by Jablonski and Chaplin, California Acad. Sciences.

Evolution of Coloration

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 08 Jan 10 - 03:55 PM

Is that consistent with the knowledge (or assumption) that "human" life spread out from the Nile valley?

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Mrrzy
Date: 09 Jan 10 - 02:15 PM

I feel the way Gandhi did about western civilization - that it would be a good idea.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Jan 10 - 04:55 PM

As mentioned right off the bat, the reason that white people are light is to absorb as much sunshine as possible to synthesize vitamin D.

THe other side of this coin is that dark people are EXTREMELY deficient in vitamin D at northern latitudes. NIH studies suggest that much of the reason for nearly double the heart problems among dark people is due to insufficient vitamin D.

I have witnessed black children in my area with rickets. This is inexcusable in a civilized nation.

We can make as much as 24,000 international units of Vitamin D from a coule hours of sunshine. The suggested daily requirment of 400 int. units of vitamin D per day is arguably wrong. Unlike vitamin A it is nearly impossible to get too much D.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 10 Jan 10 - 01:16 PM

From Mayo Clinic:

"Vitamin D toxicity, also called hypervitaminosis D, is a potentially serious but treatable medical condition that occurs when you get too much vitamin D."
"....usually results from taking an excessive amount of vitamin D supplements."
Causes a buildup of calcium in your blood. Symptoms include nausea, vomiting, constipation, weakness, confusion, heart rhythm abnormalities, kidney stones.
American Academy of Pediatrics recommend children and adolescents get 400 IU daily, adults 1000-2000IU. "Supplements can be a reasonable way to meet recommended levels- as long as you pay attention to how much you take. And be sure to tell your doctor about any supplements you take.

In Canada with long dark winters and frequent cloud cover, taking vitamin D supplements is recommended.

NIH-
Factors involved in vitamin D from sunlight include season, a person's distance from the equator, skin color and clothing.

Although studies show adequate levels of vitamin D possibly lower levels of prostate cancer, and some types of cancer, exposure to too much sun causes skin cancers, according to dermatologists.
"The safest way is to take supplements" according to Dr. Sue Ingles, Univ. Southern California.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: artbrooks
Date: 10 Jan 10 - 01:59 PM

From an article in the Jan 2007 Hospitalist:

"Rickets

The incidence of rickets is increasing, especially in black and Hispanic children and particularly in the north.11,12 Epidemiologists trace the rise to an increase in breast-feeding (good for immunity, but breast milk lacks substantial vitamin D), overuse of sunscreen or lack of exposure to sunlight, and changes in physician recommendations for vitamin supplementation. The effects of rickets alone can be profound, but other long-term consequences of vitamin D deficiency may include type I diabetes, cancer (especially of the prostate), and osteoporosis.12

In the past few decades, physicians have been less likely to recommend vitamin D supplementation for babies, and an interesting study by Davenport and colleagues correlates the year of medical school completion to that decline as well as substantial variability as to the age at which supplement use is begun.12 (See Figures 4a and 4b, left.)

"Most of the cases I have run into have been in [recent] African immigrants, where the mothers stay covered and they are vitamin D deficient," says Dr. Holmes. "It's wonderful that they culturally breast-feed, but they come to the U.S., and they're pretty afraid to go outside in a new society."

Sounds to me like some of our new immigrants need some better education on health needs in a cold and cloudy climate.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Bert
Date: 10 Jan 10 - 02:43 PM

...and they're pretty afraid to go outside in a new society."...

Sounds to me like we need to make them feel more welcome.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Jan 10 - 08:37 PM

Are Donuel's assertions about bone density statistically correct?

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 11 Jan 10 - 03:06 PM

Donuel is essentially correct.
By my doctor's advice, I take vitamin D with calcium supplement since research shows that it is needed for good bone formation and bone maintenance.
I also take Fosamax (prescription, a biphosphonate) for the same purpose. The reason is osteoporosis.
My bone density has increased, but how much is due to Fosamax and to calcium plus D, I can't estimate.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Jan 10 - 04:06 PM

I find the title of this thread to be offensive. It implies that light skin color is the most important trait. It implies that all people with light skin are the same.

Also
Calling South Carolina a "pocket(s) of these throw backs of the original violent, racist and stupid white tribes." Is silly. I've spent a lot of time in South Carolina. It is brimming with good people of all races.

Also
If you have some third party proof or evidence that "white" people are more inherently racist than anyone else then please provide it. These accusations seem racist to me.

The wife is right. It is not funny. A major way to make it funny would be to change the title. Another way would be to focus the attacks, sarcasm and accusations of racism on those who deserve it.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 11 Jan 10 - 05:37 PM

This thread evolved into a discussion of some of the medical problems involved in race, of which there are plenty. An interesting subject.

From what I have read, all races are racist in one way or another.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Rasener
Date: 11 Jan 10 - 05:53 PM

Carol
Are your curlies, brown, white or grey. You are confusing me. I can't imagine that you have white with brown spots.

Vitamins taken by tablet give you cancer and other problems. desist.

Surely ovulation is the same no matter what colour.

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Jan 10 - 07:07 PM

That, Q, was not what I was querying. Did not Donuel assert that "black" races had higher bone densities and that bone densities were decreased amongst "white" races?

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 11 Jan 10 - 08:05 PM

The short answer is bone densities are higher for black than for whites.

See: Racial Differences in Bone Density between Young Adult Black and White Subjects Persist after Adjustment for Anthropometric, Lifestyle, and Biochemical Differences
Bruce Ettinger et al., Jour Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, Vol. 82, No. 2, pp. 429-434, 1997.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/82/2/429

One conclusion is that "The lower lifetime risk of hip fracture among black persons (*ref.) results at least partly because American black women (*refs.) and men (*refs.) achieve 5%-15% greater peak bone mass than white persons."
*cited references

Graphs of the differences shown here:
Bones in Different Races.

http://depts.washington.edu/bonebio/bonAbout/race.html

This article states that "Asian persions tend to have bone density that is as low or even lower than Caucasians. Hispanic people have bone density that is about the same or a little bit higher than Caucasians."

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: mousethief
Date: 11 Jan 10 - 11:53 PM

It's true about white people evolving. I met some of my ancestors back when I was younger, and I think I really do represent a higher state of life. Then again maybe it was just because they were drunk -- I never saw them sober. Then again....

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: GUEST,hg
Date: 12 Jan 10 - 12:03 AM

Hey, everyone, it's mousethief!!!! How the heck are ya?

Subject: RE: BS: The evolution of white people
From: mousethief
Date: 12 Jan 10 - 12:54 AM

Happy to be here! And flattered to be remembered!

O..O
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