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ADD: Etiquette (W. S. Gilbert)

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Subject: Lyr Req: The English Castaways
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 25 Oct 11 - 06:59 AM

Very many years ago I used to know a monologue about two English male castaways on the same desert island but living in different halves. Both had resources the other one needed but they couldn't communicate because they hadn't yet been introduced. Finally they got to speak with each other - after much hm'ing and ah'ing, until one made a remark that the other deemed offensive. So they then stopped speaking and lived alone again. Does anyone know this monologue please?


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Subject: Lyr Add: ETIQUETTE (W. S. Gilbert)
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 26 Oct 11 - 08:14 AM

Found it ....

ETIQUETTE by Gilbert & Sullivan W. S. Gilbert

The Graphic, I, 25th Dec. 1869

The Ballyshannon foundered off the coast of Cariboo,
And down in fathoms many went the captain and the crew;
Down went the owners—greedy men whom hope of gain allured:
Oh, dry the starting tear, for they were heavily insured.

Besides the captain and the mate, the owners and the crew,
The passengers were also drowned, excepting only two:
Young PETER GRAY, who tasted teas for BAKER, CROOP, AND CO.,
And SOMERS, who from Eastern shores imported indigo.

These passengers, by reason of their clinging to a mast,
Upon a desert island were eventually cast.
They hunted for their meals, as ALEXANDER SELKIRK used,
But they couldn't chat together—they had not been introduced.

For PETER GRAY, and SOMERS too, though certainly in trade,
Were properly particular about the friends they made;
And somehow thus they settled it without a word of mouth—
That GRAY should take the northern half while SOMERS took the south.

On PETER'S portion oysters grew—a delicacy rare,
But oysters were a delicacy PETER couldn't bear.
On SOMERS' side was turtle, on the shingle lying thick,
Which SOMERS couldn't eat, because it always made him sick.

GRAY gnashed his teeth with envy as he saw a mighty store
Of turtle unmolested on his fellow-creature's shore:
The oysters at his feet aside impatiently he shoved,
For turtle and his mother were the only things he loved.

And SOMERS sighed in sorrow as he settled in the south,
For the thought of PETER'S oysters brought the water to his mouth.
He longed to lay him down upon the shelly bed, and stuff:
He had often eaten oysters, but had never had enough.

How they wished an introduction to each other they had had
When on board the Ballyshannon! And it drove them nearly mad
To think how very friendly with each other they might get,
If it wasn't for the arbitrary rule of etiquette!

One day, when out a-hunting for the mus ridiculus,
GRAY overheard his fellow-man soliloquising thus:
"I wonder how the playmates of my youth are getting on,
MCCONNELL, S. B. WALTERS, PADDY BYLES, and ROBINSON?

These simple words made PETER as delighted as could be,
Old chummies at the Charterhouse were ROBINSON and he!
He walked straight up to SOMERS, then he turned extremely red,
Hesitated, hummed and hawed a bit, then cleared his throat, and said:

"I beg your pardon—pray forgive me if I seem too bold,
But you have breathed a name I knew familiarly of old.
You spoke aloud of ROBINSON—I happened to be by—
You know him?" "Yes, extremely well." "Allow me—so do I!"

It was enough: they felt they could more sociably get on,
For (ah, the magic of the fact!) they each knew ROBINSON!
And MR. SOMERS' turtle was at PETER'S service quite,
And MR. SOMERS punished PETER'S oyster-beds all night.

They soon became like brothers from community of wrongs:
They wrote each other little odes and sang each other songs;
They told each other anecdotes disparaging their wives;
On several occasions, too, they saved each other's lives.

They felt quite melancholy when they parted for the night,
And got up in the morning soon as ever it was light;
Each other's pleasant company they reckoned so upon,
And all because it happened that they both knew ROBINSON!

They lived for many years on that inhospitable shore,
And day by day they learned to love each other more and more.
At last, to their astonishment, on getting up one day,
They saw a vessel anchored in the offing of the bay!

To PETER an idea occurred. "Suppose we cross the main?
So good an opportunity may not occur again."
And SOMERS thought a minute, then ejaculated, "Done!
I wonder how my business in the City's getting on?"

"But stay," said MR. PETER: "when in England, as you know,
I earned a living tasting teas for BAKER, CROOP, AND CO.,
I may be superseded—my employers think me dead!"
"Then come with me," said SOMERS, "and taste indigo instead."

But all their plans were scattered in a moment when they found
The vessel was a convict ship from Portland, outward bound!
When a boat came off to fetch them, though they felt it very kind,
To go on board they firmly but respectfully declined.

As both the happy settlers roared with laughter at the joke,
They recognised an unattractive fellow pulling stroke:
'Twas ROBINSON—a convict, in an unbecoming frock!
Condemned to seven years for misappropriating stock!!!

They laughed no more, for SOMERS thought he had been rather rash
In knowing one whose friend had misappropriated cash;
And PETER thought a foolish tack he must have gone upon
In making the acquaintance of a friend of ROBINSON.

At first they didn't quarrel very openly, I've heard;
They nodded when they met, and now and then exchanged a word:
The word grew rare, and rarer still the nodding of the head,
And when they meet each other now, they cut each other dead.

To allocate the island they agreed by word of mouth,
And PETER takes the north again, and SOMERS takes the south;
And PETER has the oysters, which he loathes with horror grim,
And SOMERS has the turtle—turtle disagrees with him.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Castaway
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 26 Oct 11 - 08:43 AM

brilliant, thanks for posting it


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Etiquette (Gilbert & Sullivan?)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 28 Oct 11 - 12:22 PM

I have found the poem ETIQUETTE in The Bab Ballads by W. S. Gilbert—but I don't see any reason to attach Sullivan's name to it, unless he put it to music, which I doubt. The poem seems too long to have been used as a song in one of their musicals.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Etiquette (Gilbert & Sullivan?)
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 28 Oct 11 - 12:31 PM

People will often say Gilbert & Sullivan when they only mean Gilbert. Cf a correction I once got published in The Guardian, whose editorialist had written "It ain't necessarily so, as George Gershwin remarked" ~~ when of course he meant Ira Gershwin, who was the words man!

~Michael~


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Subject: RE: ADD: Etiquette (W. S. Gilbert)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Jul 24 - 02:04 PM

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Subject: RE: ADD: Etiquette (W. S. Gilbert)
From: keberoxu
Date: 05 Aug 24 - 11:41 AM

Thanks, Joe. I'd never seen this Gilbert text -- it's a classic.


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Subject: RE: ADD: Etiquette (W. S. Gilbert)
From: GUEST,Anne Lister sans cookie
Date: 05 Aug 24 - 03:50 PM

This is great. For admirers of Gilbert, there have been some dramatisations of his short stories (under the title "Gilbert Without Sullivan) on BBC Radio 4 Extra, and on Sounds. They are really funny.


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Subject: RE: ADD: Etiquette (W. S. Gilbert)
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 13 Aug 24 - 05:18 AM

Thanks Anne ^
Gilbert Without Sullivan
- 2004 - with occasional repeats
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b5wr5d/episodes/guide


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