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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 02 Feb 04 - 04:57 PM Lock-ins in pubs are one thing, but supermarkets... Our Tescos has its people stacking shelves and that all night, so they stay open 24 hours, and you can wander in in the small hours and do your shopping then if you can't sleep, and you're short of something. But then I suppose we're a boring old place without the colourful night life and mayhem that some places do. No doubt in time we'll catch up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Bill D Date: 02 Feb 04 - 05:22 PM WalMart is Godzilla with an American accent. It doesn't care who it tramples and what it affects. It is, in business, like those buildings that are so big they make their own weather....and people are drowning. This is called unfair business practices. Just because they **force** some artifically low prices by threatening wholesalers, does not mean their impact is good, honorable or sane. It is certainly possible to be large and successful in business without the sleazy tricks WalMart uses, and I don't begrudge a company who manages to rise by being 'better'...but jeeze! Now all we need is a merger between MicroSoft, WalMart and Disney! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Little Hawk Date: 02 Feb 04 - 06:31 PM And McDonalds. There is a McDonalds attached to the local WalMart. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: GUEST,sorefingers Date: 02 Feb 04 - 08:27 PM Ok Don, it's fine to repeat what needs repeating! In fact the more I say the better it sounds. 'Maul-Wart Sucks the Life Our Of You/r Food!' Reading about Woody G and how he used say unless you can make people better off with a song, it ain't worth singing. Well if Woody taught me and my generation anything, it was to be brassy and tell it like it is, no matter who got hard feelins about our songs! Sometimes ya have to say it, and this is one of them! If I was a better song writer I would have long since done the deed, but I ain't that good. Sooner or later it has to happen. For now it's my own version of "The Very Fat Corporate Pig Who Waters The Babies Milk, Maul - Wart USA" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Cluin Date: 02 Feb 04 - 11:54 PM Yep, dill pickle flavoured popcorn exists, smells like an old gym sock, and tastes worse. Just the kind of thing Clinton loves. ;) I shop at WalMart. Actually, I shop all over, including local mom&pop type stores. And I do my buying where the price is best. Being a starving artist/musician, I can't afford principles. But I do give other businesses the chance to price-match for identical products. Some of them will and in that case, I give the smaller shops my business. However a lot of the smaller shops simply can't afford to match WalMart prices. I understand that, and they understand my buying at WalMart. They would do the same thing. Do I hate WalMart? Hell, yeah. I hate anyone or anything that's doing better than me! ;) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Date: 03 Feb 04 - 12:02 AM Yeah. :-) There's a lotta that goin' around, Cluin. I feel like that on my down days sometimes too. But dill-flavoured popcorn and pickle-flavoured ice cream???? Man, I wouldn't force that stuff down the throat of the scummiest mango-picker in this town if he insulted my grandma and stole my last mickey of Scotch. Well...maybe if he stole the Scotch, I would. Hmmmm. I bet if Capone was alive now, he'd be runnin' Mal-Wart. Chongo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: katlaughing Date: 03 Feb 04 - 03:17 AM Pedant alert: there is no apostrophe in the possessive form of "its." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Neighmond Date: 03 Feb 04 - 04:20 AM Wal-Mart moved in here about 12 years ago, and I began working up here in 1998. I am still here, and so are they. My secret? I provide the kind of service that they couldn't dream of providing. Their entire watch department consists of one or two end caps, an eight foot case and a ten foot case, and a set of camara tools (no joke! That's where they bought their supplies!) Their staff? Spent all of a day traing, and an hour or less was spent on the products they carry, thhe rest is spent on "salesmanship" and legelaties of the job. My workplace? One certified watchmaker. One watchmaker. Two bench jewelers. Another watchmaker, who is also a master clockmaker, and associated with the Piano Technicians' Guild, and an apprentice bench jeweler. Nearly 100 combined years in watch experience and nearly 80 years in combined jewelry experience. Plus four wonderful sales ladies who have forgotten more about their business than I'll ever know. Some customer brings a watch to Wal-Mart and pays $2.95 for a cell and they may or may not get the right cell, may or may not tighten the cell strap down, may or may not put the case back gasket on, you get the picture. I charge $5 (with tax) to install a cell and the case gets a complete exam, the contacts cleaned and the movement looked over. If it needs cleaned or has rust or other issues I tell the customer and bid the job, and back it. I won't even go into clock repair, but suffice it to say I have the corner on the local market there, too. Tell me, who do you trust with Grandpa's ticker? Size ain't everything. Chaz |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: GUEST,Julian & Sandy Date: 03 Feb 04 - 06:23 AM Sandy is there one of these places near us ? - that sounds fun, although I think in your case it would have to be "Sucks a little less". Oh Julikins sweetie you can be such a bitch at times - you'd probably be even more than this Maul Wart fellow could manage . . . . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Bill D Date: 03 Feb 04 - 12:14 PM here we go! It is not just a few mal-contents who are leery of Wal-Mart's size & attitude! Today's Washington Post |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Kim C Date: 03 Feb 04 - 12:34 PM I have a lot of stuff. Not as much as some, but it's a lot of stuff in the small space where I live. I enjoy my stuff, because I try to surround myself only with stuff I really need or really enjoy. And I don't get anything really expensive that can't be replaced if the Giant Puppy knocks it off the table wagging his massive Tail of Doom. I like my stuff. But it's only stuff. It's not the be-all and end-all of the world. And Chaz, you're right... if I want a disposable watch to take on vacation, I'll go to Wal-Mart. If I want my good watches taken care of, I go to a specialist. And thankfully, there's still a place for specialists. :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: GUEST,Larry K Date: 03 Feb 04 - 01:58 PM People vote with the pocketbooks. Clearly they are voting for Wal Mart. If you don't like it, don't shop there- or Home Depot (which drove out all the hardware stores) or Office Max/Staples (which drove out all the stationary stores) or any other big box. It is up to the local mom and pops to offer a niche or special service to distinguish themselves. If they do they prosper. If they don't they go out of business. That is capitalism. And the system is working. America has 5% of the worlds population but 43% of the worlds GNP according to Newsweek magazine. And this is actually increasing. A recent article stated how the EURO had planned to catch up to America, but has actually fallen futher behind and is still losing ground. I do not generally shop at Wal Mart, but would have no problem shopping there if it was convienent. In talking to friends of mine, I would have to say the treatment of employees at K Mart and Meijers is worse than that of Wal Mart. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Mooh Date: 03 Feb 04 - 03:18 PM Disposable watch? That's part of the problem. We live in a disposable world based on rampant consumerism. Too much packaging, too many single use products, too few recyclables, too many unrefillable containers, etc etc etc.. Maybe it's because I don't like such things that I don't find myself lured by MallWart, besides my revulsion of their labour tactics. Sigh, Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Clinton Hammond Date: 03 Feb 04 - 03:34 PM I like the fact that my watch probably has 5 or 10 cents worth of material in it... and that it was put together by a machine, or by a dude who's now making more money than anyone in his family ever has... That way, when my watch breaks (I had one 10 buck watch last me 15 years) it bothers me not at all to toss it out and go get a new one... I'd love to see a place for dropping off old electronics like that, of course... cell phones... old PCs... watches... hand-helds... old guitar tuners and effects peddles.... to reclaim what could be reclaimed... To recycle what can be recycled... I just don't think there is one around here yet... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: GUEST,! Date: 03 Feb 04 - 04:44 PM Dear Chaz, thank you for being there to prove to me yet again that cheaper is not better. Quality does matter. So, when I enjoy my Martin DM guitar, when I play with my preWW2 Roliflex camera, when I marvel at the exquisite inlay on my American made antique banjo, I am again reminded of the very good reasons why cheap is always crap. You eat cheap then you are crap |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Stilly River Sage Date: 03 Feb 04 - 11:51 PM I just took my 60+ year old White sewing machine in for service and a little repair job. It will cost me about $65 to $70, and you can probably buy a cheap plastic machine at Walmart for just over $100. But this machine will keep going for many years yet, 99% of the sewing most people do is in a straight line forward (as this old machine does). It has attachments for the rest. Too much is thrown out, not enough is repaired. Walmart is a symbol of American conspicuous consumption--of the world's resources. Americans are blind, and Walmart sells blinders. It's a perfect match. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: LadyJean Date: 04 Feb 04 - 01:05 AM I have shopped in Wal Marts. The stores are dirty. The floors are never washed, there's a layer of grime over everything. The merchandise is stacked so high I can't reach things. I'm 5'7, average height, so putting things out of my reach is really dumb. The piles of merchandise have no sales appeal, except that they're kind of cheap. The employees look like refugees from third world countries, which, I suppose, in a way they are. I have learned from long experience that it's best to shop where the staff is treated well. They are less likely to see customers as the enemy. Grocery prices at Wal Mart are no lower than at the local grocery chain, and in that I don't have a family of six, I don't need a giant box of cereal, or a 5 gallon jar of pickles. Sears sales staff always put the pressure on. That's the downside. The upside is that you will be waited on. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Little Hawk Date: 04 Feb 04 - 01:06 AM Yup, and when you go to "poor" places like Cuba and Trinidad and meet the ordinary people who live there and live among them for awhile...Then you soon begin to understand just how poverty-stricken the affluent society in North America really is. - LH |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: DougR Date: 04 Feb 04 - 01:19 AM pdc: he's a night assistant manager. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Stilly River Sage Date: 05 Feb 04 - 12:35 AM Sales staff and clerks are always scarce at Walmart. That's the conclusion of those I know who shop there, and it is what I've observed the few times in recent years I've been in one. I haven't had a problem at Sears or any other department store, because if I don't need help I tell them I don't need help. That seems to take care of it. At least they have people there to help you! I haven't been pressured to buy anything I didn't want or to unnecessarily upgrade. I rarely ever buy a service contract--if I'm buying something from the store I expect it to operate, or I wouldn't be buying it. I have my "Craftsman Club" discount card because I buy things like saws and drill bits and such more often than anything else there. Sears built a solid reputation on the quality and guarantee of its tools--but they don't undercut anyone else's price very often. You buy their tools because they're good. I usually go to Sears first and if they don't have what I want, then I head to Home Depot. Not many little hardware stores around any more for tools, none in my area. I can't think of a single thing that Walmart is famous for because of its superior quality. I used to go there to buy cheap medications like acetamenophen and ibuprophen, but I have since found that discount stores like Dollar General and such carry it much less expensively than Walmart. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: GUEST,sorefingers Date: 05 Feb 04 - 06:48 PM Like the cheap flimsy junk that once posed as clothes Maul Wart exploded onto the scene and just as quickly is about to implode. Not only is Maul Wart's merchandice junk, it is now expensive junk as well. Truely Maul Wart sucks the life from any stupid enough to shop there! I give it 5 years to grind to a horrible end. BTW Don't older populations chose to buy better quality because the goods don't fall apart as soon as taken from the packing, chose to buy better quality groceries because the food is less likely to poison them or grow colon cancers inside their aging bodies, chose to shop at safe stores where they are not robbed at the checkout by underpaid half starving clerks who short change everybody to get the money to but real food for themselves and their own kids at Albertsons? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: M.Ted Date: 06 Feb 04 - 11:00 PM Walmart originally started out by putting stores in those areas that had recently turned from cornfields into sprawling developments--areas that were so new that other retailers didn't even know they existed---they were incredibly successful because most of the areas had no retail infrastructure at all--they took profits and invested them in new stores, and got to be very good at building new stores and opening them fast--the thing is that now they have expanded into everyplace that fit their original marketing model, and(because expansion is necessary in their business model) are forced to move into areas that it isn't quite so easy to get that "instant market dominance"-- The other thing is that other retailers have followed them into their original markets, and are taking big chunks of their market share--Their clothing business is getting eaten into by Target, TJ Maxx, Marshalls, Ross, and number of others who offer better quality, more stylish clothing, with brand names, at the same prices that WM is asking--Circuit City and Best Buys are cutting their electronics and appliance business to ribbons because they have so much more stuff(if you want to see a mecca to consumerism, Little Hawk, you gotta check out Circuit City)-- Bottom line is that Walmart, though it is the biggest retailer in the world, doesn't have much to attract new customers, and they are losing some of of their old ones--that's why their going into the mega-grocery business--the thing is that the grocery business works a whole different way than the discount retail business, and they will be fighting for a share of already established markets--When you're as big as WalMart, and you start to lose money, it is going to be on an enormous scale-- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Nerd Date: 06 Feb 04 - 11:50 PM For anyone who does dislike Wal-Mart and cares about labor, opensecret.org reports that Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry owns between one and five million dollars of Wal-Mart stock. (Senators must disclose only the range, so it could be anywhere in there). I don't know if this will be enough to change anyone's vote in the primary, but Howard Dean could sure use some momentum about now! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Stilly River Sage Date: 07 Feb 04 - 12:03 AM Howard Dean has done some marvelous things for the party, but it's going to be up to Kerry to beat Bush. Dean didn't have the momentum. Even if Kerry does own Walmart. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Metchosin Date: 07 Feb 04 - 01:22 AM Not a Wal-Mart fan, never have been, the atmosphere is uncomfortable and the lighting gives me migraines. I can also find items of superior quality at equal or better prices than those offered at Wal-Mart and I do not care for their business practices. When I do ocassionally go out for a bout of "rampant consumerism", one of my favourite places to shop is Costco. I didn't realize it was one of the "good guys" regarding some of their business practices, until a few minutes ago, when I found the following article: Choose Costco |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Nerd Date: 07 Feb 04 - 09:19 AM SRS, I understand where you're coming from. Here are a couple of points to think about (1) No one will still have momentum when the General comes around. Momentum can only determine who will win the nomination, and then only if we let it. (2) Momentum is a media-generated effect. If we want any hope of momentum to carry into the general, we need to keep the media intersted by prolonging the Democratic horse race as long as possible. The reason Bush is on the ropes right now is that there a bunch of Democrats in the news every day lambasting him. The sooner this narrows to one candidate, the more we let the idea of "momentum" take over, the sooner the media will stop reporting it as a horse race. This accomplishes two things for Bush. It takes the Democrats out of the news early, and it allows Bush's planning people to focus on one person early. (3) Bill Clinton did not secure the nomination until June 1992. He did not have much momentum at this stage of the race either. If we had given up at this stage in 1992 and voted in the primaries on the basis of "momentum" Clinton would not have been the nominee, and Bush I would probably have had a second term. (4) Once again, Kerry is a Wal Mart Millionaire. Yuck! I'll vote for him in the general election if I have to, but I'm going to see if I can get Dean nominated first. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Stilly River Sage Date: 07 Feb 04 - 10:10 AM As contrary as it may seem, I have shopped at Sam's Club for many years, a few times a year. They compete in a different market than Walmart (they come up against places like Costco and there was another one that died off a few years ago--and the prices aren't so low, they deal more in bulk). But Costco started building in the region about five years ago. Until recently I haven't had one close by (I pass it on my way to work when it isn't open yet, but my route home follows a different route). They even sent out a free membership card but I never got in to use it. My parents both liked Costco, so I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the reminder. I started shopping at Sam's because it was the only place I could find big boxes of powdered milk. Back when I was using dairy I was cooking with it, making a lot of yogurt and yogurt cheese. We were trying to use our dairy in a healthy way, and powdered worked well. But I haven't eaten dairy since about when they started building Costcos, so I expect it's time to look back and take this as a sign! Nerd, I think your reasoning is sound. I am in the unhappy position of living in Texas, where my democratic vote isn't going to make a difference in the fall, and probably won't be much of a blip on our primary, either. Gotta get rid of this damned electoral college. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: GUEST,sorefingers Date: 07 Feb 04 - 12:10 PM Though the demise of cheapo Maul Wart has nothing to do with the election, I notice the insiders have hoisted Kerry over Dean to save G W 's hide. That makes sense if they thought Dean would be a serious contender; however, schleping Kerry in front to provide a soft target for G W may just backfire in their faces. What if the public fall for Kerry's non comital - say absolutely nothing at all of value - blarney and elect him? I agree that Dean should have been better able to handle loosing states nomination contests, and that very behavior is why I would never vote for him. In fact, at this late stage all he has to do is talk about the ISSUES not his opponents - but OC he won't.... ego ego ego. Is he yet another spineless fact twister? Maybe, but a hard days work is not in his spoilt upper class vocabulary. How do Doctor Dean! G W is a man, Dr Dean is a sissy! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: katlaughing Date: 07 Feb 04 - 02:25 PM Sorry, Mets, but you might want to take a look at this article about Costco & Eminent Domain. I found it after hearing a report on Colorado Public Radio about the city of Westminster using E.D. to take a lake in order for Costco to build on that site. The interview/report was on eminent domain, in general and they also noted the city of Boulder is taking away a blind woman's home for a retailer (can't remember which one.) There's more out there on Costco, apparently they use this kind of tactic a lot to get what they want and the tax revenues they bring in far outweigh what city coffers may glean from an individual or open space. From what I saw, they have been brought to court in several cities by folks trying to stop them. Some "megachurch" in California lost out to them, too, apparently. kat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Metchosin Date: 07 Feb 04 - 04:27 PM Well after I read the article, without further details, I'm still in the dark regarding Costco's part in it. Seems more to me like the City, or whatever, has been up to some questionable practices that border on fraud, but then I am only going by what little I understand of Canadian law regarding Right of Domain, not American. Canada has no property rights enshrined in a constitiution, in effect everything belongs to what is deemed, "the Crown" and confiscation of property occurs on a regular basis, as in the case of the failure to pay property taxes, on said property and the construction of public works, ie roads, airports, hospitals etc. I also believe that the Crown is obliged to pay "market value" (sometimes a debatable point in the minds of those forced to give up their real property) for the property confiscated for public works. Properties confiscated and sold for outstanding taxes, sometimes may go a bit cheaper, but again, they are supposed to relect fair market value, the money from said sale, which then accrues to "the Crown". I have never heard of the Crown, in this country, confiscating private land, in order to turn it over to another private individual or corporation , in an endeavour to gain more tax revenue. That's pretty weird. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: GUEST,pdc Date: 07 Feb 04 - 04:42 PM Metchosin, "eminent domain" is a big scandal in the US, especially at the municipal level. City governments use an increased tax base as their excuse for expropriating private property and turning it over to developers or whatever. If you want to curl your hair, Google "eminent domain" +US, and see the heartbreaking and unbelievable stories you get. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Metchosin Date: 07 Feb 04 - 05:23 PM Well now that Paul's come into power, I wouldn't give it anymore than 20 minutes before it kicks in in this country too. His excuse for using offshore tax haven loopholes, was something along the line of "that's how its done in a global economy in order to keep competitive with the big boys." He personally had a hand in conveniently failing to close those loopholes, when he was in charge of Finance. Its a matter of record also, that he registered his ships in foreign countries, to avoid Canadian labour regulations, safety standards and all those other restrictive barriers to an honest and principaled approach to commerce in this day and age. A foolish thief simply steals . An intelligent thief enshrines his right to do so in the laws of the land.......humming........This land is my land, this land is my land, this land belongs to me and me. *BG* |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Metchosin Date: 07 Feb 04 - 05:25 PM o,r as has been said before "The meek shall inherit earth.....but they'll never gain title to it." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: GUEST,Martin Gibson Date: 07 Feb 04 - 09:46 PM I went to Wal-Mart today, bought a bunch of things for the house and family, had decent friendly help from the clerk, exchanged pleasantries with the cashier and saved a lot of money. Stilly River sage and Don Firth, why don't you learn something about life instead of calling someone a fool who might just have more of a handle on life than a narrow minded folksinger and his stooge. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Stilly River Sage Date: 07 Feb 04 - 11:01 PM Stuff it, GuitarGuitar. Your strings are wound a little too tight. Eminent domain has been used in theory for "the greater good," and that was how the county justified taking 10 acres of prime lakefront property from a friend many years ago. Then they found they didn't have the money to develop the land, so they worked out an arrangement that she could continue to live there and pay them a nominal rent. It benefited the park department a lot because she mowed much of the property and kept it all looking good, as she always had. Then a neighbor up the road decided this must be a sweetheart deal and made a big fuss at county meetings. My friend didn't need that grief, moved out, and the place went to seed. And it still looks like shit 25 years later. That land is off of the tax rolls, but it would have brought some nice income to the county for all of these years if they'd left it alone. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Nerd Date: 08 Feb 04 - 01:05 AM Ah, sorefingers ol' buddy. Bloviating as always. It may seem to you that Dr. Dean has never done a hard day's work, but did you get through Medical School? Internship? Residency? Your own medical practice? These things take more work in a year than GW has done in his life. Dean talks incessantly about the issues, but the News media rarely reports it. I have seen him live on more than one occasion, and also many times on C-Span. Rarely does he talk about anything other than issues. And as to your feeling that Dean did not behave well, are you referring perhaps to the scream video? If so, it might interest you to know that ABC actually ran a whole story apologizing for distorting that video so badly; in it, people from NBC and CNN also said the clip was distorted and overplayed. Too little, too late? Perhaps. Now, to anyone who cares about how this political stuff connects to Wal-Mart, here's how Dean handled the Wal-Mart issue: When it became inevitable that WalMart would move into Vermont, and they had planned their usual crush of giant suburban stores, Governor Dean flew to their headquarters in Arkansas to negotiate. He told them if they built their usual suburban megastores he and most Vermont communities would fight them tooth and nail. But if they built small stores in downtown areas, he would make it much easier for them. Now, rather than sucking business out of the town of Rutland, Wal-Mart was actually incorporated into the town's downtown revitalization plan. This is the kind of negotiation Dean kicks ass at. He would rather not have had WalMart at all, mainly because of their union-busting ways. But he also knew that negotiating in this case would be better for the people of Vermont than fighting and eventually losing. He played his cards while he still had a strong hand, and got people in Vermont low prices without a lot of the woes that WalMart usually brings. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: GUEST,pdc Date: 08 Feb 04 - 02:23 AM Martin Gibson mentioned shopping at Wal Mart and having a really terrific experience. He then said: "Stilly River sage and Don Firth, why don't you learn something about life instead of calling someone a fool who might just have more of a handle on life than a narrow minded folksinger and his stooge." Sorry, MG. Shopping at Wal Mart does not mean you have a handle on life. It means you went out and bought ordinary (if not downright tacky) goods at the lowest possible price, and received the lowest possible quality in return. Doesn't sound like much of a "handle on life" to me -- it sounds distinctly low-class and second-rate. Some people don't mind that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Bill D Date: 08 Feb 04 - 10:15 AM more today on the practices basic to the way Wal-Mart works- Washington Post (I hope the link still works..WashPost is planning to require registrations soon..) here are a couple relevant paragraphs to give the flavor: "SHENZHEN, China -- Inside the factory, amid clattering machinery and clouds of sawdust, men without earplugs or protective goggles feed wood into screaming electric saws, making cabinets for stereo speakers. Women hunch over worktables, many hands bandaged and few covered by gloves, pressing transistors into circuit boards... A sign on the wall reminds them of their expendability in a nation with hundreds of millions of surplus workers: "If you don't work hard today, tomorrow you'll have to try hard to look for a job." ""The profit is really small," said Surely Huang, a factory engineer, speaking of the 350,000 stereos that Fenda agreed in March to supply to the retailer for $30 to $40 each. Huang said they sell for $50 in the United States. "We have to constantly cut costs to satisfy Wal-Mart." "Wal-Mart pressures the factory to cut its price, and the factory responds with longer hours or lower pay," said a Chinese labor official, who declined to be named for fear of punishment. "And the workers have no options." lots more...............There's your low prices, Martin and Clinton... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Stilly River Sage Date: 08 Feb 04 - 10:55 AM Bill, thanks for the link. I think the "registration" you mention is already in place--for many months now there has been a cookie in my computer so I don't have to go through the quick registration page there. It's free. When I clean out my cookies then I have to reset it. It's like I have with a couple of other papers I read every so often (New York Times, Chicago Sun-Times). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: tar_heel Date: 08 Feb 04 - 01:26 PM WALLY WORLD IS THE GREATEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Bill D Date: 08 Feb 04 - 11:19 PM ??? well, now THAT sure has me convinced, tar heel. I never heard it explained so clearly before... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: GUEST,Martin Gibson Date: 09 Feb 04 - 09:32 PM Guest, PDC You absolutely are wrong. Yep, I bought GE light bulbs, Tide detergent, some Pledge furniture polish, a brand name toothpaste, plus other similiar brand name products like Stanley tools and other brand name hardware and houseware products found in many stores. That's tacky? Are you such a snob that these products are not good enough for you, or a moron who goes out and buys the same identical quality and brand names and pays more for them? Check both, please. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 09 Feb 04 - 11:05 PM Damn Good place in my opinion....they can make a profit...while saving the populace the membership-fees of the rich-kids stores. There must be VERY few people "making a living" from Wal-Mart.
<3>HOWVER<Most appear to be supplimenting their SocialSecurity StateRetiremnt, or ServicePension others are 22 hour a weekers adding to their husband's full-time trucker pay.
No Problem.....Chinese prices and Chinese wage.....we all win in the end.
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: dianavan Date: 14 Feb 04 - 03:52 AM guest MG: I never thought of myself as a "snob" but according to your criteria, maybe I am. I don't buy Tide, Pledge or brand name toothpaste. I support the local business people because I believe that healthy communities need small business and I enjoy shopping in an area where I meet my neighbors on the street. I find that big box stores and Malls give me a headache and low back pain. I also dread meeting people like you in the parking lot. I could never figure out where you were coming from. Maybe a teen-aged troll? Perhaps a tyrannical husband and father? Surely a biggot but for sure now I know your just another mall rat. A faceless creature hoping to find a bargain to sustain your need for instant gratification. d |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Greg F. Date: 09 Mar 04 - 12:11 PM County rolls back Wal-Mart gift Albany, NY-- In rebuke of retail giant's policies, lawmakers reject immunization grant By CATHY WOODRUFF, Staff writer, Times-Union First published: Tuesday, March 9, 2004 The Albany County Legislature threw back a $1,000 health care grant from the Wal-Mart Foundation on Monday, citing the discount retailer's widely criticized treatment of its workers. "We should send that $1,000 back to Wal-Mart, back to Arkansas, and tell them to give it to their employees for health insurance," said Legislator Gary Domalewicz, D-Albany. "We shouldn't help them enhance their corporate image." Several legislators echoed those sentiments, noting that the county already may be picking up the health care costs for Wal-Mart employees and their families during extended waiting periods for benefits, for families unable to afford health insurance, and for worker families receiving treatments not covered by the company's plan. "We'd wind up using the $1,000 to immunize the children of their employees who don't have benefits," said Legislator Alexander Gordon, D-Berne. Legislator Allen Maikels, D-Guilderland, said a state survey of Georgia's public health insurance program for children, released just last month, found that more than 10,000 of the children enrolled in the program had a parent working at Wal-Mart. Though Wal-Mart is the largest employer in Georgia, the number of its workers' children enrolled in the program was far more, per employee, than other large employers in the state, the survey found. "This is a company that has grown exponentially by not paying a living wage and not providing their employees with benefits," Maikels said. --- Rest of article here: http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=226765&category=ALBANY&BCCode=&newsdate=3/9/2004 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: GUEST,Martin Gibson Date: 09 Mar 04 - 04:34 PM dianavan No, none of what you mentioned. Wow, are you ever a name calling weirdo and accusatory because someone spends money at a big, box store and feels he is getting value. yeah, you are a snob, and a rebel with a stupid, foolish purpose. Go support the local stores if you want. Waste your money, not mine. So you don't buy Tide, Pledge, or a brand name toothpaste. Fuck those name brands, right? I'll bet you don't buy brand name tampons either. Old newspaper works just as good, right? Or buy a box of Tampax from the local store so they can gossip about when you have your period, or don't any longer. That makes you a better person of course. My, my are you rightous. Don't buy electricity or gas from the big conglomerate utility company either. Burn your own wood for electricity and eat beans to make your own gas. Uh Oh, here it comes. Start the man-bashing, woman-abusing thing. Wahhhhhhh! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: GUEST,pdc Date: 09 Mar 04 - 04:48 PM Who was that masked man? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Don Firth Date: 09 Mar 04 - 04:59 PM (Oh shite! It's back!) Really hung up on bodily functions there, Marty? I would suggest that you get a clue, but you couldn't get a clue during the clue mating season in a field full of horny clues if you smeared your body with clue musk and did the clue mating dance. Do not despair, however. If you can't be a shining example of the human race, at least you can function as a horrible warning. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: GUEST,Boring Old Fart Date: 09 Mar 04 - 05:52 PM (Loudly applauds Mr Don Firth) - well said Sir |
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Subject: RE: BS: Maul Wart sucks even more now From: Kim C Date: 09 Mar 04 - 05:56 PM Cracklin Oat Bran at Publix Grocery: $4.49 Cracklin Oat Bran at Wal Mart: $2.39 |
