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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle Date: 06 Apr 17 - 08:46 AM twould be nice if they'd consider a special posthumous one for Derek Brimstone, whom I believe, meant a lot to a lot of people on the folk scene. |
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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: The Sandman Date: 07 Apr 17 - 06:15 AM Al . Derek will be rememberd by many, he was an outstanding raconteur and performer he will be rembered for his perfomances. Voting[edit] "The nominees in most categories are chosen by a panel of 150 representatives from the British folk world, including broadcasters, journalists, record producers, festival organisers, venue bookers, record company directors, agents and promoters. The panelists can vary slightly from year to year, with new panelists being invited (or self-applying) each year. The final panel is selected by the Folk Awards committee, which includes staff from the BBC, the production company 7digital Creative, and representatives from outside those organisations.[4] The 'Best Original Track' and 'Best Traditional Track' categories are chosen by smaller specialist panels of judges, and the BBC Radio 2 Young Folk Award - presented as part of the Folk Awards - is decided by a standalone contest.[4] The 'Best Album' category is decided by a public vote, hosted on the BBC website." That says it all, A COMPETITION DECIDED BY A GROUP OF PEOPLE WITH A VESTED INTEREST IN COMMERCIALISM [some of whom have a vested intrest in promoting their own performers] even the "Best Album" only reflects the subjective opinions of those who can be bothered to vote. it is a commercial charade, and nothing more than a musical circus |
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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: GUEST,Joe G Date: 07 Apr 17 - 09:41 AM But it raises the profile of the genre and provides an opportunity to bring many people together to celebrate the amazing music being made across the UK - that to me is a good thing I do find it sad though that the role of the folk club in supporting artists is now ignored in the awards There is room for the awards just as there is room for clubs, singarounds, dance teams and other aspects of the music |
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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: GUEST,Ed Date: 07 Apr 17 - 10:35 AM even the "Best Album" only reflects subjective opinions Wow! Thank you for that, Dick. I wouldn't ever have realised that if not for your insightful observation. How would you like your undoubted brilliance to be rewarded? |
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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: The Sandman Date: 07 Apr 17 - 12:32 PM guest ed, Sarcasm is the refuge of a shallow mind.so fuck off |
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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: GUEST,Ed Date: 07 Apr 17 - 12:44 PM But on occasion it highlights somewhat ridiculous views. But given how entrenched your stance is, there really isn't much point... Have a nice evening. |
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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: The Sandman Date: 07 Apr 17 - 12:52 PM in your opinion my views are ridiculous?yet you cannot explain why you think they are ridiculous. Joe Grint on the other hand says there is room for these rewards, why is there room for rewards that end up discouraging the majority of young performers?and only encourage a small minority of people. no, these awards are elitist. |
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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: GUEST,Ed Date: 07 Apr 17 - 01:01 PM in your opinion my views are ridiculous?yet you cannot explain why you think they are ridiculous Well I could have if you'd bothered to ask me. But you didn't... |
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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: GUEST,Joe G Date: 07 Apr 17 - 01:19 PM How do you know they discourage people Dick? Do the Young Folk awards also discourage people - or indeed the BBC Young (Classical) Musician Awards? I know we are not likely to agree on this - and I do have some reservations about awards but on balance feel they are an ok thing given the attention they get from the wider media (and thus potentially from new audiences who may go on to discover more about grassroots folk) I am involved in the Yorkshire Gig Guide Grassroots Awards (multi genre) - like the BBC Folk Awards our Awards are not perfect but they provide a great opportunity for many in the live music scene to come together to celebrate the diversity and wealth of music in Yorkshire |
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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: GUEST,kenny Date: 08 Apr 17 - 12:13 PM Sunday 9th April - BBC Four, 10.00pm : "For the first time The Radio 2 Folk Awards are being televised with an hour long highlights package, a sign of the increased popularity of the once-maligned genre" Enjoy ! |
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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: Big Al Whittle Date: 08 Apr 17 - 02:15 PM i'm sure its been maligned more than once.... |
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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: GUEST,kenny Date: 09 Apr 17 - 03:44 PM bump - might be interesting to see how it comes across on TV as opposed to radio. |
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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: akenaton Date: 10 Apr 17 - 03:30 AM Piece of ridiculous, self congratulary shite. Elitist nonsense which has no connection to music of the people. I watched as much as I could stomach on TV. I was just an expensive gig for luvvies! |
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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: Johnny J Date: 10 Apr 17 - 04:35 AM Mmm, there was very little focus on the actual award winners themselves or samples of their work. Plenty of attention given to the "luvvies" who announced them though. So, I'm almost in agreement with Akenaton here. Of course, the programme was edited for TV and they decided to to mainly feature the live performances but these were not, mainly, the winning acts. The Scots Trad Awards is arguably more balanced on TV even although BBC Alba edit and produce it to appear like a Gaelic Awards programme even although it's not. |
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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: GUEST Date: 10 Apr 17 - 06:11 AM Ah yes, "no connection to the music of the people". Quite true, there was no sign at all of Daniel O'Donnell. |
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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: Allan Conn Date: 10 Apr 17 - 06:38 AM The highlights were squeezed in with some winners (ie Furrow Collection for best band) getting no more than a couple of seconds clip. The whole thing though was on the red button for a while. I am not sure why only the highlights were shown and why the highlights only are on I-Player. Considering how many repeats etc are on there you'd think they could just show the entire event!! |
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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: The Sandman Date: 10 Apr 17 - 01:25 PM "Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: akenaton - PM Date: 10 Apr 17 - 03:30 AM Piece of ridiculous, self congratulary shite. Elitist nonsense which has no connection to music of the people. I watched as much as I could stomach on TV. I was just an expensive gig for luvvies!" Spot ON |
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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: FreddyHeadey Date: 12 Apr 17 - 04:46 AM Tracks from the nominated musicians, on Spotify BBC Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 http://open.spotify.com/album/4tpQBeGUHdNoEBUqPQJ4J5 & others not on that album Josienne Clarke and Ben Walker http://open.spotify.com/album/7wkd8uGGBjwGsxcV9LXeyz (2016) Martin Green - Flit http://open.spotify.com/album/7piZV2f8ZoAzIbKy7Kokjk Mohsen Amini -------- If Wishes Were Horses by Kris Drever http://open.spotify.com/track/6ASiyqGXvbOr7MqAE8DsVc Roll Away by Martin Green feat. Adam Holmes http://open.spotify.com/track/1GRayKhbqAqTIjt6c4Bk9k Van Diemen's Land by Daoiri Farrell http://open.spotify.com/track/5IO2WqbAmjAf2cvt4ThRgJ |
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Subject: RE: Radio 2 Folk Awards 2017 - Nominations From: punkfolkrocker Date: 12 Apr 17 - 08:28 AM whoever was responsible for editing the highlights show needs to rethink his/her career... piss poor shoddy work... school kids doing education video projects would hand in a better finished production.. |
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