BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'

Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 10:54 AM

I'll be buggered if I can understand how you count them....maybe I'm being thick, but cant see it!

Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 10:56 AM

Oh God, yes I AM being thick....NOW I see it! *ROFL*

Isnt it typical.... that its only when you have irredeemably damned yourself, you see how to have avoided it...*LOL*

Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 10:57 AM

*slinks off, shamefaced*

Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 11:25 AM

Serves you bloody right for being rude about having me and Sweeney for neighbours.

Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 11:28 AM

Now, about that buggering......

Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 11:29 AM

Ow! HARSH!

I'm sure both you & he would soon be complaining about being only NEXT DOOR to the Village Idiot...

*G*

Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 11:48 AM

No Paul, you would be welcome as long as you dropped the buggering bit !

Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
From: Paul from Hull
Date: 01 Aug 06 - 02:24 PM

ok, gladly!

Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 07 Feb 09 - 06:14 PM

ok... so I don't want to start a new thread but I just got to scream some where.

My darling lovely English (very left wing) husband keeps getting these films and I sit and watch. And innocent little yank I am repeatedly appalled at how inhumane and horrid English power has been not just to the Irish (Wind the Shakes the Barley) and the Scots (Brave Heart) but even to their own in films like Billiy Elliot and Kes.

I just saw In the Name of the Father for the first time. I was shaking and gasping with weeping. I was so angry I kept pushing away my lovely partner who was only trying to comfort me. He is English and bloody well convenient for me to take my rage out on, poor sod.

I have a headache now. How the hell am I going to sleep tonight?

Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
From: gnu
Date: 07 Feb 09 - 06:23 PM

So, it was him?

Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 05:34 AM

I don't know why I went so mental last night about English injustice in that film. Do the same thing with films like Schindler's List and Dances with Wolves.   Every "Power" has done some injustice to someone or group.

Anyway I have been in weepy state for the last week over lost daughter. Damn. Can't really blame it on that either. It is now properly February isn't it?

My official SADS month.

Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 08:10 AM

Virginia, I could never live in the Britain as depicted in those and so many other films.
In the real world, fortunately, there is no such place.

Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
From: Noreen
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 01:19 PM

Have you seen the film in question, Keith?

It did actually portray atrocities on both sides, as I am sure the Irish Times review you quoted from selectively, made clear (the link you provided no longer works unfortunately- copying the whole review would have been better).

I found it a very moving and upsetting film, at least in part because it showed the callousness engendered in everyone involved in the situation.

(((VirginiaTam)))

Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
From: Amergin
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 01:48 PM

If you think the Movie In The Name of The Father was bad....read the book by Gerry Conlon.

Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 04:00 PM

Noreen, I saw the film thanks to being sent a copy by Divis Sweeney, but it was some time ago.
I remember thinking that all British people portrayed were two dimensional brutes. Only the Irish had personalities and character.
When British people were killed they just went down like skittles, with no visible hurt or pain.
Like the Indians in old fashioned westerns.
I remember that they took an old IRA veteran to see it.
He said that the Free State army were worse than the Tans in their behaviour.
He refused to draw the pension he was entitled to from the irish government.
He sadly died a while back.

Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 05:34 PM

http://www.indymedia.ie/article/76950
Mr Keating said of his civil war opponents: "They were worse than the Black and Tans, and they committed some awful atrocities. In one week they murdered 19 people - comrades I knew only too well. They were just gone overnight."

Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 02:53 AM

Here is what Dan said about life in Kerry before the Easter rising.

he said that in his early youth, Kerry was peaceful until the 1916 Easter Rising.


Relations with the large British military garrison in Tralee were good, where a soldier from Lancashire who enjoyed music was welcomed to sing in the local pubs.

When one of Dan's own cousins who was in the British Army overstayed his home leave, two uncles were arrested after beating up a visiting military policeman inquiring as to his whereabouts.


But the injured soldier refused to give evidence against the two Kerrymen, saving them from certain jail and earning the respect of locals.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7026951.stm

Subject: RE: BS: Ban on 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'
From: GUEST,Long Dong
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 03:46 AM

Great to see an Irish thread. Keith seems to have it all to himself, YET AGAIN !