Tune Req: Separation Blues (Patrick Sky)

Subject: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Easy Rider
Date: 13 May 99 - 11:19 AM

I have been looking for fingerstyle TAB/Music to Pat Sky's song, "Separation Blues", for a long time. I found the words here, but the music is only a single note melody line.

Does anybody have a full fingerstyle arrangement, like the way Pat played it?

Thanx ER

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Mark Roffe
Date: 14 May 99 - 01:10 AM

I've been playing this song for almost 30 years, and I never knew who wrote it. I'd heard someone sing it in 1970, and it sunk into my brain forever. I only knew the first verse and the John the Baptist verse - never realized there were any more. Thank you!!

I don't know if I play Pat Sky's arrangement as I've never heard him do it, but it is a fingersyle arrangement. I wish I knew some way to show you how I play it...I've never written any tablature.

Mark

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Rockaday Johnny
Date: 14 May 99 - 11:07 AM

Words music abd some tab in "Clear" Pat Sky Songbook Music Sales Corp (1970) OP

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Alex M
Date: 14 May 99 - 02:16 PM

Mark:

I'm glad I could help. Did you find all the words on this Web site's lyrics database? You can hear Patrick Sky play and sing the song, on his great first album, ""Patrick Sky"", from Vanguard, which is available, on CD, from Amazon.com. Check it out. There is another great song, ""Many a Mile"", on that album, that I would love to learn to play. Unfortunately I can not pick things up by ear; I need the written TAB/Music.

Too bad you can't write TAB or Music. Listen to the record and see if your version is like the original. I saw him sing it once or twice, back in the late sixties/early seventies sometime.

Alex

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Easy Rider
Date: 14 May 99 - 02:49 PM

Rockaday:

Do you have that book? I couldn't find it on the musicsales.com Web site. If you do and can send me a copy of the pages with ""Separation Blues"" I'll be grateful. Is ""Many a Mile"" in the book too?

post your email address.

Thanx, Easy Rider

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Mark Roffe
Date: 14 May 99 - 07:46 PM

Alex - yep, got the lyrics from the database. Do you know when Pat Sky wrote it? I'll see if I can afford another CD :)

Mark

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Easy Rider
Date: 17 May 99 - 11:49 AM

Rockaday:

You referred me to the book

"Clear" Pat Sky Songbook Music Sales Corp (1970) OP

but Music Sales has no listing for it, and the library doesn't have it. Do you have the book? Who is the author, publisher?

Can you send me copies of the pages for the song I want?

Thanx, Easy Rider (Alex)

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Easy Rider
Date: 19 May 99 - 09:26 AM

Does anybody have the book:

"Clear" Patrick Sky Songbook Music Sales Corp (1970)

If so, Can you send me copies of the pages with the TAB/Music for the songs, "Separation Blues" and "Many a Mile"?

Respond to [e-mail], and let me know.

Thanx

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: reggie miles
Date: 19 May 99 - 12:02 PM

A friend of mine has played this song for years. We've played together for many years. He has a nice finger picking style. Someone approached me the other day at a local street fair. He was watching me perform (busking) and he volunteered this site:

click-me

I don't know if it has that particular song there. I've been trying to search there and there are many links. Hope you find it. Reggie

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Easy Rider
Date: 20 May 99 - 12:11 PM

If somebody has the Patrick Sky book, they can FAX the pages to me at 718-488-1752. Just post a message here, so I will know to go look for my fax.

Thanx, Alex M (Easy Rider)

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: annamill
Date: 20 May 99 - 01:30 PM

Reggie,

I just went to the click-me, hoping to get the tabs for "Keep on Truckin' Mama". The OLGA is closed because of a law suit. Blast!

Annap

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: woody
Date: 21 May 99 - 11:13 AM

Alex M (easy Rider) I'll fax the tab to Separation Blues and Many A Mile today. You can get tab and lyric to Keep On Truckin" from Stefan G.

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Easy Rider
Date: 21 May 99 - 03:38 PM

Woody:

I got it, six pages. Thanx loads. I've been looking for this music for a long time. Too bad Pat's complete fingerstyle arrangements to the songs are not transcribed, only the intro and then the melody line, but it's a good start.

I see you transposed "Separation Blues" to a new key. Is it easier to play that way? Sometimes I think that, if the pitch of the record is off or the guitarist is using a capo, the transcriber will put the song in a different key from the one in which it was originally played, making it that much harder for us to learn. If we only knew what chord shapes Pat played it in!

I see you've been reading my postings on various sites. Thanks for the "St Louis Tickle" too. This is the version that I play, from "Finger-Picking Styles for Guitar", by Happy Traum, Oak Publications, 1967. That is a great book. I'm now working on "Living in the Country", from that book.

I'm curious to know what other Pat Sky songs are in his songbook. Could you post a list of titles?

Thanx again, Alex M

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: woody
Date: 21 May 99 - 08:52 PM

Many A Mile, Keep on Walkin', Jimmy Clay, Enjoy, Enjoy, Enjoy, Separation Blues, Love Will Endure, Follow The Longhaired Lady, I Don't Want You Hangin' Round, She's Up For Grabs, The Lovin' Kind, Children's Song, Silly Song, Come With Me Love, The Dance Of Death, I Don't Feel That's Real, Nectar Of God, Need Somebody On Yor Bond, A Girl I Once Did Own, Sometimes I Wonder, Give To The Cause. All that for $1.95 in 1970. woody

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: catspaw49
Date: 21 May 99 - 09:12 PM

Great thread.....I've been a Pat Sky fan since the mid sixties. He wrote some really great stuff and had a unique, free, and wonderful style on guitar and banjo. I've been singing his stuff for years and some of his individual lines are real classics: "Reality is bad enough, why should I tell the truth?"

We need a little Pat Sky Fan Club here to exchange info.

catspaw

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Mark Roffe
Date: 21 May 99 - 09:53 PM

Not to mention his accompanying Buffy Sainte-Marie (and who else?)

Bark

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: DonMeixner
Date: 21 May 99 - 11:03 PM

I am pleased to see so many with an interest in Patrick Sky.

Don

Glad to see you up and running 'Paw.

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Easy Rider
Date: 26 May 99 - 11:40 AM

Mark:

This song was on Patrick Sky's first album, released in 1965. I must have first heard it in 1963 or 1964.

I'm still loo9king for a full, fingerstyle arrangement.

Easy Rider

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 26 May 99 - 12:17 PM

Annap,

OLGA's main site is closed. However, if you CLICK HERE you will get the olga.net home page. On the left is a link entitled "Search Engine". If you go there, you are welcome to search to your heart's content. If you get a "hit" for your search there will be a list of States (California, Florida, etc.) and countries (Poland, Germany, etc.) that have "mirror sites" of OLGA. If you click on them, it takes you to the tablature you have found. By the way, those "foreign" sites are English language capable.

Don't ask me to explain the legalisms here ('cause I don't understand). Suffice it to say OLGA is alive, just not well. But, like Alice's Restaurant you can nearly "get anything you want" (you just can't sit at the table, you have to "take out").

Roger in Baltimore

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Easy Rider
Date: 27 May 99 - 10:40 AM

NOPE. Not on OLGA. Thanx anyway.

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: annamill
Date: 27 May 99 - 11:11 AM

Thank you, RiB. I went into OLGA and searched for keep on truckin mama, keep on truckin, truckin, the authors name J. K.... something. Hot tuna.. nada. Nothing. I think I better learn an easier to find piece of music. Any suggestions for a beginner? I did, however, bookmark that sight for future reference.

Annap

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Mark Roffe
Date: 27 May 99 - 01:34 PM

I found an old Sing Out! with words/music of Separation Blues (no TAB - this is an OLD Sing Out!). Also has a great article on Pat Sky. I could fax it to you. Lemmeno.

Mark

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Alex M
Date: 28 May 99 - 10:27 AM

YES, YES. I would LOVE to see the article. I think the music is only a lead sheet, though, just the simple melody line. Still, it's a start.

718-488-1752 (fax)

Thanx, Alex M

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 28 May 99 - 05:06 PM

Annap,

I started this thread for you,

Learning to play guitar

.

I expect it will be chock full of suggestions within 24 hours.

Big RiB

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Mark Roffe
Date: 02 Jun 99 - 11:47 AM

Alex M Easy Rider - check your FAX for the Pat Sky stuff from me.

Mark

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Easy Rider
Date: 02 Jun 99 - 03:53 PM

Thanx, Mark. I got it.

It is a short article, by Peter La Farge, of all people!

Thanx, Ale

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: alison
Date: 07 Jun 99 - 07:07 AM

Hi,

Been trying to contact you vai email but the address you sent me doesn't work.. have just tried again using the address you gave above.. if you don't receive the email .. register with Mudcat it's at the top somewhere .. and then I can get through with the personal messages, to answer your question.

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Easy Rider
Date: 31 Jan 00 - 12:04 PM

Refresh:

Two of Patrick Sky's songs were posted today, so I thought we should revive this thread. I never did get a full fingerstyle arrangement for this song.

Anybody?

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: catspaw49
Date: 31 Jan 00 - 12:22 PM

Sorry EEZ....No got...Greg and I posted THREE songs actually, and now I notice that the DT copy of "Many A Mile" is attributed to the "singing of Buffy Ste. Marie" and it IS one of Pat's songs.

Spaw

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: alison
Date: 31 Jan 00 - 10:08 PM

still trying esay rider.. melodie are esay... full finger styles are very difficult and well night impossible to get exactly...

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Easy Rider
Date: 01 Feb 00 - 08:30 AM

catspaw49:

"Many a Mile" is a most beautiful song, probably his best work.

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 Feb 00 - 09:27 AM

I tend to agree EZ, but there are a few others I find equally compelling. "Many Times Before" which I posted the other day is not well known,but very beautiful. I think I'll repost "Love Will Endure" which is kinda' fragmented on another thread. "Nectar of God" also needs to be put up here.

Outside of his songwriting, Pat was also a performer of traditional songs as well, often with very unique takes. On one album, there's even a frailed banjo version of the Gilbert and Sullivan "Modern Major General." His "Rattlesnake Mountain" and "Payday" are both personalized versions of trad songs. Somewhere too I remember Rick Fielding saying that he saw him do "Modern Major General" live and found it funny.

His association with Peter LaFarge, Buffy Ste. Marie. and especially Mississippi John Hurt, plus his own roots, made for an interesting combination. I find no one else quite like him.

Spaw

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Feb 00 - 03:31 PM

Refresh

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 07:50 PM

While looking for something else and realizing I'd misattributed a lyric to the wrong song, I ran across this site I had bookmarked but never posted because this thread was long gone....Just for the record though..............If you want to HEAR this song we talked about in this thread (and still have never found the complete tab to)....here' a link to 4 of Pat's songs on one page...Good Listening!

Separation Blues

Spaw

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: GUEST,Easy Rider
Date: 31 May 04 - 12:20 PM

After all these years, I'm STILL looking for a full transcription of "Separation Blues" and "Many a Mile".

Can anybodu help?

Thanx

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 10:39 AM

I know I've asked for this before, but I haven't found it yet, so...

Does anybody have a TAB/Music transcription of this Patrick Sky song?

I'm also looking for his "Many a Mile"

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: GUEST,Easy Rider
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 10:40 AM

I lost my cookie!

This "GUEST" is Easy Rider. Hi, All

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 23 Jul 05 - 11:42 AM

I happened to stumble on this thread today. I have a copy of Clear/Patrick Sky that I bought when I was in high school. I believe you already found that the book has introductory tabs, but nothing for accompanyments. A lot of people have played Separation Blues, but I am still not aware of any full-blown tabs.

Subject: RE: TAB for Separation Blues
From: Easy Rider
Date: 03 Aug 05 - 11:36 AM

Refresh!

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Separation Blues (Patrick Sky)
From: GUEST,jon
Date: 16 Aug 10 - 02:24 PM

In regards to all the inquiries about Pat Sky: I saw him several times in the 1960s in Baltimore at a small folk music club called The Foghorn and even got to speak to him about how he gets that twangy sound. He showed me his fingernails and said that's what he picks with. Of course, that vintage blonde J-200 helped a bit too, as it had an amazing tone! I have no tabs for Separation Blues but I saw him do it may times and he did it in C. Did anyone else see him in the 60s? He used to do many funny songs that were never on any albums, like one that he said was in a W.C. Fields movie, and it was about some girl that lost her tambourine. The song is in the movie That Fatal Glass of Beer. He also did some really funny song about getting drunk, and it had this incredible little guitar lick in between each verse, but I can't remember much more about it. Check out his incredible guitar break in Dylan's Don't Think Twice on the Through a Window album and Candy Man on the Two Steps Forward One Step Back album. Pat Sky is an incredible guitarist!!! If anyone wants to talk Pat Sky to me just email at [e-mail] and I would love to write more.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Separation Blues (Patrick Sky)
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 16 Aug 10 - 03:52 PM

Jon,

During my student years in Baltimore, I attended the Foghorn several times. I was blessed to see Jesse Fuller there. Ah yes, down the steep steps and into the cellar.

Roger in Baltimore (but not any more)

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Separation Blues (Patrick Sky)
From: DonMeixner
Date: 16 Aug 10 - 04:02 PM

Good to see Pat Sky coming up again and again. He was a favorite of mine in the 60's. In 1969 I chose and evening of Pat Sky and Joni Mitchell for $2.00 over Judy Collins and Arlo Guthrie across town for $6.00. The town was Syracuse, NY. I have never regretted the choice.

Don

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Separation Blues (Patrick Sky)
From: Beer
Date: 16 Aug 10 - 04:09 PM

B. Murdoch has share some wonderful stories of Patrick and himself with me. I am honored.
I know I can look it up (and I will) but I wonder if he is still doing gigs?
ad.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Separation Blues (Patrick Sky)
From: Amos
Date: 16 Aug 10 - 04:51 PM

The chnords are not hard:

G...D7
D...D7...G
G...G7....C....Cm
G...E7...A...D...G.


Repeat until done.


A

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Separation Blues (Patrick Sky)
From: DonMeixner
Date: 16 Aug 10 - 08:10 PM

For the key of G I Liked them Chnords Amos but for that Cm chnord. Instead I like the rather pedestrian A 7th chnord. But that could because of the way I hear the melody.

And there is a bridge

(C)If your baby kicks you out a bed and she won't treat you ni(G)ce.

(C)And you feel mistreated well then bud(D7)dy take my advise. (D)

These are the chnords I play.

Don

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Separation Blues (Patrick Sky)
From: GUEST,DonMeixner
Date: 17 Aug 10 - 07:37 PM

Can anyone confirm my A7th chord or Amos's Cm as a best choice?

D

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Separation Blues (Patrick Sky)
From: Guldhamstern
Date: 21 Jan 11 - 06:28 AM

GUEST,jon

Hi, you suggested to: "Check out his incredible guitar break in Dylan's Don't Think Twice on the Through a Window album and Candy Man on the Two Steps Forward One Step Back album".

But i've been searching for those two albums some time now. And if they are to find, they are not very cheap.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Separation Blues (Patrick Sky)
From: GUEST,guest, jon
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 11:02 AM

Guldhamstern,

That Two Steps Froward album is available on Amazon, but you're right, it isn't cheap. Both copies available are about $30. Check ebay periodically too, as it shows up there once in a while. I was fortunate once to get a sealed copy of it there and it wasn't all that much becuase it isn't that well known so nobody bid on it. Many of his funniest songs never made it on record. I was fotunate to see him several times up close in the 60s. - Jon

Subject: RE: Separation Blues (Patrick Sky) on YouTube
From: GUEST,Guest, Jon
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 11:11 AM

In case anyone is interested and hasn't seen YouTube lately, there are some nice videos of Pat there - inlcuding some from the Pete Seeger TV show Rainbow Quest where you can actually see him playing Separation Blues and others.

Subject: RE: Don't Think Twice on YouTube (Pat Sky)
From: GUEST,Guest, Jon
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 11:14 AM

If anyone hasn't heard it yet, I uploaded Pat's version of Don't Think Twice from the Two Steps Backward LP:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaXPbqi8eWE

If the link don't work just search YouTube with his name and that song title and you'll see my old 50s record player and the that's the one.

Subject: RE: don't think twice (Pat Sky)
From: GUEST,guest, jon
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 11:18 AM

I think i had the LP wrong for this song - it might be on Through a Window. Either way, you can hear it now on YouTube.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Separation Blues (Patrick Sky)
From: PHJim
Date: 23 Sep 11 - 12:13 PM

In place of Amos's Cm or Don's A7, I play a G dim (XX2323) and slide it up to (XX5656). I'm not sure what Patrick uses since I misplaced that album in the early '70s.

I also play the bridge a little different than Don:

(C)If you kick your baby out of bed 'cause she won't treat you ni(G)ce.

(C)If you feel mistreated well bud(A7)dy take my advise.(D7)

If you want a note for note version of Patrick's playing, I can't help you, but my version is a pretty close approximation of what he did on his first album. I'll try to find time to tab it out if you're interested.