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A request from kat- new blog posting-April 2010

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Subject: RE: A request from kat- new blog posting-April 2010
From: jacqui.c
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 06:58 AM

Kendall and I are SO compatible!
    I've closed this thread because it has become a target for a constant flow of spam. If you wish to continue the discussion, start a new thread and link back to this one.
    Thanks.
    -Joe Offer, Forum Moderator- 21 October 2010


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- new blog posting-April 2010
From: kendall
Date: 08 Jun 10 - 07:33 PM

My idea of roughing it is cutting T bone steak with a dull knife while watching black and white TV.


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- new blog posting-April 2010
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 May 10 - 12:34 AM

I guess you missed the part about singing around the campfire, etc. Maybe it was a karmic thing...yeah, that's it...I *chose* to experience that to atone for freezing someone else out in a past life. My belief system only...thank goodness dad and mom won't be paying for that one, karmically, that is.

My apologies, folks. I'll be back with an update as things progress.


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- new blog posting-April 2010
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 May 10 - 09:57 PM

OK, Kat, sory, but YOU were the one who said you were last and left out,sleeping cold or something like that. The thinnest sleeping bag, etc.

NOBODY needs to sleep cold.

Nights for me were the best times. Campfire, wrapped in blankets, toasting marshmallows, the sky and the Milky Way with no light pollution....late night S'mores....then a warm sleeping bag.

And never sleep in the clothes you want to wear when you get up. THAT will make you cold in a heartbeat.

And I didn't think I was being 'nasty'...just taking what YOU said about last,thin, etc. for what I thought it was worth.


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- new blog posting-April 2010
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 May 10 - 09:46 PM

My parents were NOT cheap, Sorcha. With five kids and, at the time of the story, two of them in college, there wasn't a lot, esp. as my dad worked for himself. My mom and dad spent more nights in the car or truck than any of us kids..they had the lesser of everything. If you didn't like the story, fine, but there's no need to be nasty about it.


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- new blog posting-April 2010
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 May 10 - 08:56 PM

Oh, but I LOVED it the rest of the time...it was only at night!**bg**

Thanks for your comments, friends. There are still plenty of areas where one can go camping in Colorado, though I don't know if there are in the area I was writing about. Haven't been up there since I was a young adult. I also think things are more controlled as to where one may camp. Privy? What's that?**bg** We sometimes went places where there was nothing and we set up a card table with lawn chairs, dug a fire pit lined with rocks, used a designated area for toileting and proper burial of it, and took our pleasure in the solitude. I think to get to a place where one can do that now, one has to hike in a long ways, ride horses, pack in with llamas, etc. and, of course, pack it all back out.

My family has always loved camping. I have an adorable photo of my dad's cousin and her newly wed husband on horses with camp gear tied on. It was their honeymoon trip and she is grinning to beat the band, setting off on her new life.

When I met Rog and he told me his family's idea of camping was to go to Hampton Beach in the summer and stay in a travel trailer, I laughed my head off. They sent us a post card. WE went camping to get away from all of the people and there they were in the thick of them! It was a totally alien concept to me. I understand it better, now, but would still NEVER choose it. If I am camping I don't want ANYONE nearby.


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- new blog posting-April 2010
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 May 10 - 08:51 PM

That's just cause the parents were cheap. I NEVER got cold and we all slept in the same tent too. If I got wet, so did Mom and Dad. Dad fixed it. Always.

Sorry, but the story didn't appeal to me at all.

Even in the High Unintas in Mid October we (including our 2 yr old son) didn't sleep cold. YES there was a mad daylight run for the fire and hot breakfast...but we SLEPT warm.


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- new blog posting-April 2010
From: SINSULL
Date: 02 May 10 - 07:56 PM

I enjoyed the read, Miss Kitty. I too hated camping. Animals in the privy, rain, cold. When I was only about two I rolled out of my bed under the tent flap and away. Woke up screaming alone in the dark. I hate camping.


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- new blog posting-April 2010
From: jacqui.c
Date: 02 May 10 - 07:49 AM

Terrific story - camping has never appealed to me and I think that you have laid out the reason why. My idea of roughing it is a trailer.

So glad that you are feeling a bit better now. I have been thinking about you often.


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- new blog posting-April 2010
From: LilyFestre
Date: 01 May 10 - 10:43 PM

Ok. I want to go camping now!!!!! I have fond memories of camping too and remember always being cold, especially my nose and toes. It seemed like I would FINALLY warm up when it was time to wake up. Sleeping bag covered in dew and cold mornings were brutal! I'm going to bed tonight thinking about old camping adventures...thank you for that!!!!

Michelle


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- new blog posting-April 2010
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 01 May 10 - 08:08 AM

I enjoyed the story - can people still camp in that area, or is it now so developed that the magic has gone?

may your energy & muse continue

sending a few more hugs & lots of love

sasndra


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 May 10 - 05:37 AM

Phew! It's been awhile and a lot of intense stuff going on. Belated thank yews to Animaterra, Donuel and BillD for your latest postings. They all mean so much to me, as do all of the others.

I have had no energy to write about what's been going on and still have not, but I did wake at 2a to a long-dormant muse who said get up and write this or else. So...there is a new posting, finally, to my blog, Why I Hated Camping At Nighttime. Please enjoy and I will catch everyone up, soon. Thanks, again, my Dear Ones.

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 07:27 AM

Good morning, kat-me-luv. Sending love, as always...


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 04:41 PM

I chose not to be obcessive about the last 4 months of sleepless scream out loud incessant pain. I look back now as though it harldly happened. But I do feel that walking and riding a bike is now miraculous.

Here's to you kat, knowing that you too will look back as though it hardly happened.


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 04:29 PM

like they said , with extra ♥♥♥


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 04:01 PM

Thanks, my friends. I don't feel so overwhelmed, today and had a good biofeedback session, plus I drove myself there and back without falling asleep. Things seem to be progressing s-l-o-w-l-y.

I am gratefull to you all.

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 02:40 PM

FWIW, hugs from me too!

Kitty


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 01:14 PM

Everyday........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: SINSULL
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 08:13 AM

Always.
Mary


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 07:10 AM

Me, too!


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April
From: Janie
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 06:32 AM

Still here, Miss Kitty.


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 12:24 AM

Kat, it can't get any worse than Art's puns. Chin up!


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 09:41 PM

hugs

sandra


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: Art Thieme
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 05:52 PM

Kat,

Watch your mail. Something designed to elevate your spirits will go out to you in a few days by mail!!!!!

If you want to do that quicker, just take a bottle of booze and hold it up over your head.

A great way to elevate your spirits.

Really, though, I'm sending you an actual poultry-geist. (Another fowl joke...)

Love to you and Roger,
Art


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 05:15 PM

<<   >> 's

xxx 's



Thinking of you -


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Apr 10 - 04:53 PM

Any help would be greatly appreciated, my friends. I've been having some very low days. Things are progressing.


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 06:08 PM

Not I! His parents. I don't go there!:-)


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: SINSULL
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 04:10 PM

You took Morgan shopping at Home Depot????? Not Toys R Us? No wonder he was sleepy.
Auntie SINS


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 02:43 PM

I don't think you'd ever have to be concerned about it in humid areas like New England, Sins. I'd never heard of it out here in the arid high desert, but with other contributing factors, i.e. meds, PC use w/out looking away and also blinking enough (though I am pretty good about both), pollen, weed-burning...you name it, they can all have an effect. It's better, but I still have to use the ointment, not the drops, during the day as well as at night when they are recommended. Rapidly blinking distributes it fairly quickly, so it's not too bad...definitely better than dry eyes!

Thanks, the walk was a BIG deal, though he wasn't too excited. They had to wake him up, so he was kinda sleepy. Took him shopping at Home Depot and wore the puir kid out.

I think I may be ready to post most of the rest of this on my blog in a few days. A lot has happened and is ongoing. I love this thread for thoughts and support, but would prefer not posting all of the nitty-gritty here. I do find the process fascinating, though taxing.:-)

Thanks, again,

kat


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 08:18 AM

Sins - my last boss had a similar condition & was often late for work waiting for the cream to take affect.

sandra


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: SINSULL
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 08:13 AM

That walk is an amazing accomplishment. Morgan must have been thrilled to see you arrive.
I never heard of the dry eye scrape before. Something else to obsess on.
Keep doing what you are doing, kat. Colin has a long road ahead of him and he has to walk it alone. You can cheer him on from the sidelines but he has to do the walking.
Mary


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- ongoing family help-April 2010
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 12:03 AM

spring has sprung! a walk in the spring is good

sending more hugs

sandra


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- help for son-update 7 Apr 2010
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Apr 10 - 07:52 PM

Jack, thank you for your input! Staggering drunk...I felt like an elephant with not enough in the stun gun to put me out for awhile last night. The night before no problem; like Animaterra/the Bard says...great sleep. Last night, I think I took it too early and missed the "sleep by hour" 'cause two trazOdone (tks) and 1.5 xanax later, I was still awake at 330a! Great nap this afternoon, though. I have odd reactions to meds. I was titrating down on the xanax, don't like it, it doesn't help with sleep, really, and it's our goal, the docs and mine, to end use of it. It got me through the horrible panics. Now, the biofeedback will take its place, esp. in getting me some natural sleep, but with the past three weeks, esp. this past one, it's been a bit tough. I am not sure what to do, tonight. The dosage is 1-2 at bedtime and I do need more sleep, but the dry, cotton mouth and potential for no sleep may preclude any of it.

Bobert, I have heard you. I've spoken to some connections and am seriously going to look into some *medicinals* through my docs. I have other docs' I can call if need by...lookit the things ya find out when ya ask!

My dear son, may he benefit from the fact that I've been through too much repetitive crap with my bro., so he is now hearing from me, "We've already talked about that, save it for the therapist. I won't go there, again." He has been crying, a lot, and asking for hugs, which, of course, I love to give. I am gratefull he reaches out to me, I am protective of myself, though, for all good reasons, imo.

Thanks for being here and listening, m'lovely friends.

kat - oh, good things today! MY Rog took me to see the beginning of the orchards flowering AND we walked to Morgan's house and back. BIG deal for me!


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- help for son-update 7 Apr 2010
From: Jack Campin
Date: 11 Apr 10 - 06:59 PM

Trazodone (note the spelling) worked great for me a few years ago (mainly as an antidepressant, though I had disturbed sleep as well).

Cautions: it acts VERY suddenly, like being whacked on the head with a hammer. You need to time the dose right - too early and you'll be staggering around like a drunk. And it can cause reflux, so eat something with it.

I doubt if anything that strongly sedative is safe for an alcoholic. It comes with cautions about abuse potential.


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- help for son-update 7 Apr 2010
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 11 Apr 10 - 08:19 AM

Sounds like progress- "sweet sleep, that knits the ravell'd sleeve of care"- Shakespeare knew!


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- help for son-update 7 Apr 2010
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Apr 10 - 09:57 PM

You folks make me smile, thanks! I slept last night through chemistry..no, not the class!**bg** My doc called in a heavy-duty old fashioned anti-depressant used for insomnia these days, trazadone. After seven nights of no sleep, I gave up and took some. Also had a mini-treatment from my girlfriend doc, yesterday. It was so good to see her. Yesterday AM was tough...I felt awful, Colin and I were both horribly depressed. We did talk about maybe picking up on each other too easily, but we both got better. He went to AA, I saw my friend/doc, etc. and my Rog took care of me. He is such a Blessing. Morgan came over for a short while and my SIL and I visited some more. I teased him, today, calling him my new "girlfriend" just down the street. He's winning me over and Morgan has a lot to do with it.

Anyway, other than an eye which was so dehydrated it woke me up and drops didn't help, today was much better. The eye doc on call told me what probably happened was my eyelid scraped off a layer on my eyeball from getting too dry at night and told me to use ointment instead of drops. Who knew?! The ointment is made up of mineral oil and petroleum jelly, so blurry-vision has been interesting today. It does feel much better. Rog also got the swamp cooler going, so the humidity is climbing which will also help. Good grief...what a bunch of I don't know what!**bg**

More later. I do think of you all and am so gratefull to *feel* you with me.

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- help for son-update 7 Apr 2010
From: SINSULL
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 03:09 PM

Maine has lobster and Kendall. We'll share.
Rest a bit. In fact - SLEEP.
According to a thread here Obama will hypnotize you just by you listening to his speech patterns. Doesn't work for me but you try it.
SINS


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- help for son-update 7 Apr 2010
From: ClaireBear
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 12:43 PM

Bobert's pretty much said it definitely (nice one, Beaubear!), but there's some groovy kinda love vibe streaming from California too. Just no moonshine. Peacock feathers, hot tubs, crystals we got, but no moonshine. To our sorrow...

Hugs.
C


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- help for son-update 7 Apr 2010
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 09 Apr 10 - 01:04 AM

Kat, that Bobert has a lot of energy (unless, of course, he has been set upon by a chiropractor or masseuse from hell) so you might want to think about his Rx. Heck, it worked for him! ;-D

SRS


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- help for son-update 7 Apr 2010
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Apr 10 - 08:04 PM

Sheet fire, kat... Where I been... Man, you been goin' thru some heavy poo... That ain't no good at all... Light poo ain't nuthin' to ask for no doggybag either...

Hey, firget all that biofeedback stuff... Ya'll go any moonshine out there in Wyo-ming??? No??? Well, pack yer bags and move to Wes Ginny, get you a bottle of good moonshine, take you a decent sized snort when it's bed time and it's nighty-night fir 8 hours... It's guarneteed to work...

But if it don't then you go down to the local junior high school and get you a bag of evil weed... Now you take that weed back home, cook it up in some ymummy oatmeal/raisin cookies, then take you a decent sized snort of that moonshine and it will definately be nighty-night for the next 8 hours...

Can't help ya' much with yer youngin'... Mine???... Got silvar balls and things st5ickin' outta all kinds of places on his head and does rap??? Go figure??? I brought the boy up right... You know, tellin' him stories at night and takin' him to football but...

No matter... You hang in there 'cause ol' hillbilly loves ya'... Fir real...

Bobert~


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- help for son-update 7 Apr 2010
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Apr 10 - 07:47 PM

My dear friends,

Please know that I appreciate, so much, your PMs and expressions of care, love, and support. I don't have a lot of leftover energy, right now, to answer a lot, but I am gratefull and I am doing better. We all are, it's just really intense.

Today has been tough energy-wise. It is the first time in at least 2-3 months that I drove myself to and from the therapist's and because of lack of sleep, I had to pull into a park and take a short power nap on the way home. Rog was on an emergency and at work else he would have taken me. I didn't want to ride with my son because of the meds he is on...I just don't feel comfortable. (I feel fairly picky about whom I ride with!:-)

Anyway, had a good session with the biofeedback and therapist. Took a nap, and tried to play my dulcimer for the first time in at least a year, so not a terrible day, just draining.

I will try to post an update every day or so, please do not put any energy into worry...it's not good for either of us, but I sure do appreciate the positive vibes your good thoughts, etc. send to me. Thanks!

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- help for son-update 7 Apr 2010
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 08 Apr 10 - 01:16 PM

Still here-
Sending you that love I keep telling you about.


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- help for son-update 7 Apr 2010
From: jacqui.c
Date: 08 Apr 10 - 07:29 AM

Good morning Darlin'. Hope you managed to sleep last night.

It's good that you recognise the depression creeping in and keep positive about it's staying. Having that little boy around has got to be a bonus. Morgan can do more good, I'm sure, than any medication.

Here's hoping that Colin can find the strength to stay the course.


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- help for son-update 7 Apr 2010
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 12:21 PM

Thanks, Sins. I say "damn it" a lot. With "little pitchers having big ears," I have been trying to change it, consciously, from "damn" to "bless," though, as a mutual friend told me, there is always a time and place where a well-placed expletive can make one feel so satisfied.:-) The other thing I shall try, now that Morgan and I have watched The Fantastic Mr. Fox, is "cuss"...it was hilarious. For every spot where most people, today, might say "fuck" they used "cuss" as in "are you cussing with me? Made me LMAO. So anyway, bless kids!**BSEG**

I know you are right about the sleep. This is the first day in ages when I have felt a tiny bit of depression. It won't last...I really need that sleep, but I still don't like the feeling.

luvya'llkat


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- help for son-update 7 Apr 2010
From: SINSULL
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 08:25 AM

The Serenity Prayer works for addicts caregivers too. The wisdom to change what you can, accept what you can't change and know the difference between the two.
Stay strong, kat.
And find a way to get some sleep. It will make a huge difference in your outlook.
Damn kids!
Mary


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- help for son-update 2 Apr 2010
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 04:33 AM

Everyone seems to be sleeping but me...fifth night n a row. I see the biofeedback and therapy people on Thursday, so that should help.

Things are better, so far. He went to his doc today who changed some of his meds but ONLY after she spoke with me and had my assurance that I would dispense them, NOT him. I told her that was fine with me, actually a bit of a relief. He is feeling better; still very sad, esp. when he went back to clean out his space in the house he shared with M and P. Also P, the 8 year old, is a quiet, sweet kid who said he was sorry Colin had to move out, but he was sure he would be able to move back in soon. Obviously, M. needs to talk with him. There is no chance of that happening,at this point.

There is more, little things, but I don't want to write about them, just yet. Other than no sleep, I have been doing well. Even found I have some reserves and handled the entire crisis without freaking out and weeping my head off as in the past.

Thanks for your continued support!

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- help for son-update 2 Apr 2010
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 07 Apr 10 - 03:02 AM

still here sending virtual care


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- help for son-update 2 Apr 2010
From: mouldy
Date: 06 Apr 10 - 01:51 PM

More positive thoughts heading over to you!

Andrea x


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- help for son-update 2 Apr 2010
From: GUEST,Jaze
Date: 06 Apr 10 - 12:58 PM

Happy belated Birthday, Kat. Hope you're feeling better. James


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Subject: RE: A request from kat- help for son-update 2 Apr 2010
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 06 Apr 10 - 09:19 AM

what a week, but a lot of hope.

sending more love

sandra


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