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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... (Palin & oil spills) From: beardedbruce Date: 29 Apr 10 - 05:11 PM Gnu, Learn to read entire posts. "So, If Bush is to blame for Katrina, Obama is to blame for this spill. Otherwise, it is not Obama's "fault". NOR is it Palin's, or the Republicans, or Pelosi's, or Reid's... " |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... (Palin & oil spills) From: gnu Date: 29 Apr 10 - 04:36 PM "So, If Bush is to blame for Katrina, Obama is to blame for this spill." How odd. Bush wasn't to blame. And I won't address the pathetic response by Bush... the Canuck Navy and a Canuck rescue team from BC beat Bush to the site. The Canuck navy had over a million MRE and were NOT ALLOWED to distribute them due to the possibilty of Mad Stupid Fuck Disease. Oh, nevermind... it still tears me up. All of the past politicians were aware that the US Army Corps of Engineers could have raised the level of protection but the politicians are the ones who write the cheques... ALL of the past politicians had the pen... none of them wrote the cheques. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... (Palin & oil spills) From: beardedbruce Date: 29 Apr 10 - 04:22 PM more here "NEW ORLEANS — Government officials said late Wednesday night that oil might be leaking from a well in the Gulf of Mexico at a rate five times that suggested by initial estimates. In a hastily called news conference, Rear Adm. Mary E. Landry of the Coast Guard said a scientist from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration had concluded that oil is leaking at the rate of 5,000 barrels a day, not 1,000 as had been estimated. While emphasizing that the estimates are rough given that the leak is at 5,000 feet below the surface, Admiral Landry said the new estimate came from observations made in flights over the slick, studying the trajectory of the spill and other variables. An explosion and fire on a drilling rig on April 20 left 11 workers missing and presumed dead. The rig sank two days later about 50 miles off the Louisiana coast. Doug Suttles, chief operating officer for exploration and production for BP, said a new leak had been discovered as well. Officials had previously found two leaks in the riser, the 5,000-foot-long pipe that connected the rig to the wellhead and is now detached and snaking along the sea floor. One leak was at the end of the riser and the other at a kink closer to its source, the wellhead. But Mr. Suttles said a third leak had been discovered Wednesday afternoon even closer to the source. "I'm very, very confident this leak is new," he said. He also said the discovery of the new leak had not led them to believe that the total flow from the well was different than it was before the leak was found. The new, far larger estimate of the leakage rate, he said, was within a range of estimates given the inexact science of determining the rate of a leak so far below the ocean's surface. "The leaks on the sea floor are being visually gauged from the video feed" from the remote vehicles that have been surveying the riser, said Doug Helton, a fisheries biologist who coordinates oil spill responses for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, in an e-mail message Wednesday night. "That takes a practiced eye. Like being able to look at a garden hose and judge how many gallons a minute are being discharged. The surface approach is to measure the area of the slick, the percent cover, and then estimate the thickness based on some rough color codes." Admiral Landry said President Obama had been notified. She also opened up the possibility that if the government determines that BP, which is responsible for the cleanup, cannot handle the spill with the resources available in the private sector, that Defense Department could become involved to contribute technology. " |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... (Palin & oil spills) From: beardedbruce Date: 29 Apr 10 - 03:44 PM Another incorrect set of statements from Donuel "Two sets of figures are still floating around. Two sets of figures are still floating around. Politicians and oil execs say 1000 gallons a day and the Coast Guard says 42,000 gallons a day. The FIRST set of COAST GUARD numbers were 1000 BARRELS per day. The NEW set, based of further observations BY THE COAST GUARD is 5000 BARRELS per day. BOTH sets of figures comne from the Coast Guard. So, If Bush is to blame for Katrina, Obama is to blame for this spill. Otherwise, it is not Obama's "fault". NOR is it Palin's, or the Republicans, or Pelosi's, or Reid's... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... (Palin & oil spills) From: michaelr Date: 29 Apr 10 - 03:27 PM I just read that Palin will host a nature show on the Discovery channel... That's like having Dr Mengele host a medical program. Bizarre! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... (Palin & oil spills) From: Riginslinger Date: 29 Apr 10 - 10:28 AM Has anyone heard what caused the explosion in the first place? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... (Palin & oil spills) From: gnu Date: 29 Apr 10 - 09:24 AM Oh my... NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (AFP) - A giant oil slick threatened Thursday to pollute the fragile wetlands of Louisiana, as officials warned that toxic crude was pouring from a ruptured well into the Gulf of Mexico five times faster than previously estimated. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... (Palin & oil spills) From: Bill D Date: 28 Apr 10 - 01:27 PM I, for one, hopes he backs off that 'limited drilling' idea now that we see some of the obvious dangers. You realize they need to drill ANOTHER hole beside this one to relieve the pressure? That will take 3 weeks if nothing goes wrong, goes wrong,goes wrong,goes wrong,... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... (Palin & oil spills) From: Bobert Date: 28 Apr 10 - 12:47 PM No, Rigs... He is not *as guity*... He didn't build his entire campaign around "Drill, Baby, drill"... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... (Palin & oil spills) From: Donuel Date: 28 Apr 10 - 09:11 AM Palin be damned, she is not relevent. The spill off Louisiana will become the world's largest at the current rate. Two sets of figures are still floating around. Politicians and oil execs say 1000 gallons a day and the Coast Guard says 42,000 gallons a day. In 3 months that is over 3 million gallons. They are pouring detergent over the pill now. Thats not the tide, THats Tide! Soon they will set the spill on fire. Google the spill and view it from orbit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... (Palin & oil spills) From: mousethief Date: 27 Apr 10 - 11:11 PM He's a patchwork, all right. I think "drill baby drill" was referring specifically to ANWR. But clearly the current technology for offshore drilling is sadly lacking in emergency recovery ability. We're making holes in the ocean floor over pressurized oil deposits but have no way of capping them if our slender pipes to the surface should come loose. Otnay Ootay Ightbray. BTW I started a thread with this title on another forum before I saw yours -- does this mean we're great minds? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... (Palin & oil spills) From: Riginslinger Date: 27 Apr 10 - 10:57 PM Yeah, well, maybe it works for Republicans, but it ain't gunna work for me. He's as quilty as she is. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... (Palin & oil spills) From: Bobert Date: 27 Apr 10 - 10:33 PM Go back and reread the first post, Rigs... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... (Palin & oil spills) From: Riginslinger Date: 27 Apr 10 - 10:19 PM Fortunately, Obama just endorsed off-shore drilling, so he can't stand back and just point fingers. He'll really have to do something. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... (Palin & oil spills) From: Bill D Date: 27 Apr 10 - 10:12 PM Fortunately, I'm a past master at that 'neverminding' stuff. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... (Palin & oil spills) From: Bobert Date: 27 Apr 10 - 09:41 PM Well, gol danged... I knew that Eb would get it!!! Sheeesh... The rest of ya'll half-heimerz folks I worry about!!! I mean, ain't too long a drive from "Drill, Baby, Drill" to "Spill, Baby, Spill"... Nevermind... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... (Palin & oil spills) From: Ebbie Date: 27 Apr 10 - 05:42 PM And, of course, 'Spill, baby, etc is a takeoff on Palin's 'Drill, baby, Drill' which was/is her mantra. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... From: Bill D Date: 27 Apr 10 - 02:35 PM I see..... I was aware of the serious oil rig explosion and spill, and I do not favor extended off-shore drilling, but as much as I dislike Sarah and her skewed logic and sound bytes, I have to say that this disaster has only limited bearing on her policies. In the Gulf, and in the North Sea...etc., much oil HAS been acquired from these platforms. Folks are taking a calculated risk, which has been barely worth the problems and cost. It is no as if Sarah was out there alone advocating obviously stupid ideas....she is just one voice among many hoping that speculative drilling will get us a few months more supply. It is time to extract what oil has already been located, and spend all that money on alternative energy....Sarah doesn't 'get' it, but she doesn't deserve special notice for that. *sigh*...I suspect Obama is playing a VERY complex practical/political game in allow some 'limited' exploration. I wish I knew the details so I could go yell at him. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... From: gnu Date: 27 Apr 10 - 02:23 PM The Montreal Gazette says drilling a relief well could take months and the "spill" is at a rate of 1000 bbl per day. Oh... my... goodnees. Truly sad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... From: Bobert Date: 27 Apr 10 - 12:44 PM She went beyond just championing... She urned it into her campaign slogan... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... From: Riginslinger Date: 27 Apr 10 - 12:39 PM She championed off-shore oil drilling. Of course, so did Obama and a number of other folks. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... From: Bill D Date: 27 Apr 10 - 12:29 PM Well, that is nasty and terrible...but what does it have to do with Palin? Is she making political statements about it? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... From: Riginslinger Date: 27 Apr 10 - 12:06 PM http://chattahbox.com/us/2010/04/27/louisiana-oil-spill-now-the-size-of-rhode-island-and-headed-for-shore/ best I could do |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... From: Bill D Date: 27 Apr 10 - 11:59 AM Anyone care to get specific on this? Maybe a link? I see nothing new on any of MY usual news links. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... From: Riginslinger Date: 27 Apr 10 - 11:01 AM One thing about it, it's a terrible development. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... From: kendall Date: 27 Apr 10 - 08:42 AM Of course they will. He has this history thing. Other disasters such as the Plague,the Johns town flood,Hiroshima,The Smoot/ Hawley tariff act. He's bad news alright. |
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Subject: BS: Spill, Baby, Spill... From: Bobert Date: 27 Apr 10 - 08:10 AM Well, well, well... Wonder what Ms. Sarah is sayin' now??? (Of course, the usual cast of partisan Repubs will put this all on Obama...) B~ |
