BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 08:45 AM

Well, what I've seen of Alvin Greene doesn't seem all that bad to me. I'll admit he's a disaster as a politician, but I'm kind of burnt out on politicians anyway.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 07:33 AM

That is the point, Rigs... Knowing that Demint is a shoe in in November what Redneck Nation did was use the Dem primary to further their racist culture by voting for a black man who, frankly, fits their stereotype of black folks... Have Wille Horton been on the Dem ballot these folks would have voted for him...

B~

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 07:25 AM

Okay, I don't see how it makes any difference one way or the other, though. It seems very unlikely that any Democrat would have gotten elected in the general election.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 10:08 PM

One thing ya' don't understand, Rigs, is the "Southern Republican Mentality" (SRM)... The4y don't need to get together and plan how to mess with black people, commies and Dems... They instictually do it... It's kinda like school of fish all turnin' at the same time... I mean, how did the fish know to do that... Rednecks is the same, Rigs... I mean, you don't believe me??? Get you a ticjet to Charlotte when they run the Budweiser 600 and sit in the middle of the stands and just wacth 'um!!! I mean, one race an' you'll either join 'um ot know of what I speak... BTW, I do kinda know about these folks seein' as I had me a race car until I was 39 and ran it at Southside Speedway in Richmond... So my observations about Redneck Nation come first hand... Believe me... The crossover vote in SC was huge... Just like that school o' fish... Had there been a real race in the Repub primary then different story but this was, like they say in football" a "free play"...

B~

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Riginslinger
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 10:23 AM

Okay, at far as I'm concerned the point isn't worth arguing. I don't see Alvin Greene as a whack-job. He doesn't speak well in public and I don't either. I think it takes a lot of guts for him to even do it.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 10:16 AM

Doesn't take a far-flung or even organized conspiracy.
Simply post the $10k filing fee for a whack-job in a state with an essentially unopposed Republican candidate and crossover voting.
Even Republicans would not need to have this explained to them in any detail. Surely you are not implying that SC Republican voters are dense, are you?

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 08:39 AM

Imagine the depth and reach of the perpetrators if your theory is correct. All of those cross-over voters would have had to have been informed and in agreement. Some people voted for the other Democrat, and most of the Republicans voted for DeMint.

             Personally, I think a lot of black voters, buoyed by the earlier performance of Obama, just wanted to vote for a black candidate. Why is Alvin Greene and worse a candidate than the other Democrat would have been?

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 08:05 AM

It wouild be just another conspiracy theory if SC hadn't allready been caught doing the crossover jitterbug before... This is just the way things are down there... Ask the P-Vine... She lived there...

Like BillD has so aptly put it: Where'd Alvin get the money??? Especially since he had to get a court appointed attorney on the porn charges saying he didn't have money to hire one...

B~

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 07:16 AM

You mean buy into the conspiracy, if I can. Sorry!

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 11:56 PM

Nope. His voters were right wing. SC has crossover and a totally safe Repub in the primaries. Do the logic if you can...

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 11:52 PM

Being a klutz as a soldier will probably help him with left wing voters.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 10:14 PM

"(CNN) – New documents indicate that Senate candidate Alvin Greene, a political novice who shocked observers by winning the South Carolina Democratic primary, has a less than stellar military record.

According to records obtained by the Associated Press, Greene was denied two promotions and made "mistakes as severe as uploading sensitive information improperly, and as basic as an overall inability to clearly express his thoughts and perform basic tasks."

The records cover a short, three year period of Greene's service in the Air Force."

He will, of course, not win..... *I* still want to know where the $10,000 for the filing fee came from.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 09:16 PM

You're right, TIA--the above post will probably go away.

Anyway, this is what it says in Wikipedia about Alvin Greene.

University of South Carolina
BA, political science, 2000

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 08:38 PM

No matter, it's mail order... If it even exists... Maybe this is another Breitbart dirty trick???

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 08:31 PM

I think you mean "baccalaureate", yes?

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 08:13 PM

I've heard him, Rigs... If he has a degree, it's a mail order one...

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Riginslinger
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 07:53 PM

By the way - I read in a column yesterday that Alvin Greene had a bachaloriate degree in Political Science. If true, he can't be a stupid as the Democrats keep saying he is.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Riginslinger
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 05:37 PM

Which adresses the point, one could be facing murder in India, but if nobody knew about it, the murdered could come to the states and take a job in security at a major airport.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 04:55 PM

Ahhhh, not to mention Alvin's criminal background check, Rigs... He *is* facing a felony pornography charge...

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Riginslinger
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 04:00 PM

And after the election, will Alvin Greene be able to hire on as a security guard at an airport. Probably not, because he has a history here--they have to hire foreigners that they don't know anything about and can't find out.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 02:03 PM

mandatory8 asks why there's so much security at the airports. Gee, I wonder what happened on September 11, 2001. Just an ordinary day, eh?

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 01:21 AM

The unique punctuation, the subtle mis-spellings, the rampant commas. I know who you are...

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 13 Jul 10 - 10:11 PM

Here's where it will go if you're not careful, Mandatory. Some dizzy idiot will come along and suggest that illegal aliens ought to be able to draw social security. Look forward to starvation with that one.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,mandatory
Date: 13 Jul 10 - 09:04 PM

oh damn, that was supposed to be per capita, and even at that......, lets see, USA, 1 in 750,000, Mexico, 1 in 4 million. Mybad.
OK, sorry, that was as lame as saying there's a lot of illegal immigrants paying into the social security system, but we can't quantify it at all.
But the point is the same, there's a big corruption problem in Mexico and it's kept people there poor. I'm not buying Forbes' numbers though, its a lot higher than 10.
But, numbers are just numbers, and nobody's answered this....
Say you're on a jury, and somebody's on trial for doing something illegal, what do you say?
"Well, don't worry, partner, illegal's ok in these parts, lets go get us a drink"
I might, but that's me.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Riginslinger
Date: 07 Jul 10 - 11:22 AM

You can't put the people in the airports on the border. They don't speak English or Spanish.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,mandatory8
Date: 07 Jul 10 - 11:20 AM

Wait a minute, speaking of the border, Why is there all this huge waste of time and money at airports, with what feels like German soldiers in a WWII movie asking for "Papers please", and taking your shoes off, while they look for whatever in the hell they're looking for. That's the biggest crock-o-shit I've ever seen, especially because if there actually were terrorists bent on destroying this country, its been proven, they can just stroll over the southern border, with thousands of others, with whatever bombs they prefer.
And if I know that, the heads of all those useless spy/security departments know that. If you don't protect the border, then why the harassment at the airports? The US is already on everybody's list of top 10 police states. and this is why the democrats are no better than the Republicans. they've had a chance to do away with this crap and its gotten worse.
I can't understand why everybody isn't protesting paying taxes to this government, when that's what they use the money for.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,mandatory8
Date: 07 Jul 10 - 10:54 AM

I don't understand why, when you're talking about illegal immigration, you even mention democrats or republicans. The gates were thrown wide open under the Bush regime. One of the 8 new US district attorneys that Alberto Gonzales got in trouble for was hatchet man Johnny Sutton, an old pal of Bush's, who was actually prosecuting border guards for doing their job. Its not a party thing, it's a cheap labor thing, for the corporations that own both the parties. There's congressmen in both parties being pressured by the people in their districts that are against amnesty. I can guarantee you there's plenty of Republicans that'll vote against protecting the border.
I can understand that, maybe, up in New England its not a big issue, but it should be for any body that works for a living. Man, what do you tell your kids if they ask you what illegal means?

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 04:22 PM

"...they don't want the competition to know where their assets are hidden."

Or their asses...

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Riginslinger
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 04:10 PM

Most of the billionaires in Mexico are drug dealers and they don't want the competition to know where their assets are hidden.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: pdq
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 10:20 AM

" They have more billionaires in Mexico than there are in the US." ~ mandatory8

Where do you get your information?

The US has at least 400 billionaires, Mexico about 10.

Add a few drug cartel leaders if you want, but that still means your statement is a bit silly.

"electronic voting... I know the politicians all say they're safe...but of course a lot of them are investors in the companies that make them..." ~ same

Name one.

I voted on a machine that was made by a company that was bought by the United Arab Emerits, but I don't think they hold any elective office in the US. Said machine also has a paper copy of your vote that you can check before hitting the submit button.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 08:39 AM

It's funny Jesus Christ would register Republican, but I usually vote Green myself.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 08:21 AM

Ah hummm... Gettin' just a tired of this "both sides are guilty of bad behavior" mythology because it is clear that the loonie right has the market captured in childish behavior...

I mean, let's get real here... The US economy is headed back into the crapper and most non-flat-earth-economists have been saying that the initial stimulis package was too small and are advising US to get another one going... And quick... But the loonie right wants to fight the deficit??? Fighting the deficit during a recession is lunacy... It's irresponsible... And it is a formula for an even deeper recession, perhaps a full blown depression... But the loonie right is going to use it's "minority rule" powers to push the US economy down as far as it can??? That, my friends, is bad behavior... There is nothing in the Dem trick bag that is in the same league when it comes to bad behavior... This isn't a matter of difference of opinion... The loonie right knows full well that cutting public spending in the middle of a recession when the private sector isn't spending is suicide for everyone... That bad behavior...

Now we have the Sovereign Citizens movement, also fueled by the loony right made up of the looniest of the right who think it's perfectly okay to kill government workers!?!?! They even hold seminars on anti-government activities!?!?! And guess what??? Give??? When a loony righter showed up at a rally where the president was going to speak with a bigass gun strapped on his leg and a sign that suggested that violence was perfectly okay the message was clear: HATE THE GOVERNMENT!!! And I don't recall the Republican Party stepping forward sayin' "Hey, ya'll, that's bad behavior..." Instead, in it's silence it sent a clear message that there is no bad behavior as long as it is folks on the right are engaged in it...

So now it has progressed to a movement that is out to kill government workers becuase the Repubs, who BTW hate not being in power of, ahhhhhh, the "government", are willing to stand by in silence while their goons organize to kill government workers???

So, as for those of you who might be quick to say that there's bad bahavior on both sides: Hitler said that the "people will belive the BIG LIE" and that's exactly what we have... The Repubs are all about the BIG LIE to get the power and the direct line to the corporate cash back...

That is the real story here...

B~

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Mandatory8
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 04:46 AM

oops kinda went off there, The guy in South carolina? Are they using electronic voting machines there? That explains most of the voting anomalies going on. I know the politicians all say they're safe and can't be hacked, but of course a lot of them are investors in the companies that make them. Oddly enough independent tests find them very easy to hack. Who do you believe?

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,manmdatory8
Date: 06 Jul 10 - 04:35 AM

first of all, I have no party affiliation because both parties are corrupt beyond reason. They stuff their pockets, and play the american people for fools on any emotional issue they can. This is one. I would think that by the time you were in your mid twenties you'de be smart enough to see that. I've never seen such idiocy as people in this country dividing between party lines and attacking each other, While the Rockefellers and other thieves keep getting richer at our expense. Democrats and republicans both doing that, and it makes them sound like Rush limbaugh's little P-brain fried on drugs.
Does nobody here work for a living? There's a lot of trust fund kids in this town, but I thought most places you had to work for a living. Do you know what happens to wages when you flood the market with cheap labor? Do you realize what you get when you destroy the middle class of a country? You get a feudal society like Mexico. They have more billionaires in Mexico than there are in the US. Now they have warlords with their own fiefdoms and armies, because that country is so corrupt nobody is going to stand up for it. Why would they? Does anybody see the implication? Or do you have to wait for Obama or Karl Rove to tell you what to think?

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Ebbie
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 11:20 PM

May I say that Jesus Christ registering as a Republican is just another lie concocted by Republicans. :)

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 10:15 PM

My exact sentiments, Joe...

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 09:46 PM

No, way, Riginslinger. I heard that Jesus Christ registered Republican last year, and nothing is going to break my streak of voting for Anybody But Republicans...

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: pdq
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 08:26 PM

Yes, there seem to be quite a few Black folks running as Republicans this year.

Probably 12-15 just for the US House and Senate seats, including a retired general and talk show host Star Parker.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 08:13 PM

Actually, I can think of a whole lot of reasons not to vote for Jesus Christ!

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 01:09 PM

The problem, as I see it, isn't that tyhe Dems are stickin' with Greene as much as it is the mystery surrounding his nomination... That is still unresolved... No matter, the Dems could run Jesus Christ and DeMint would still win 'cause S.C. ain't exactly brimmin' with I.Q...

B~

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 05 Jul 10 - 12:48 PM

And not only that, there seems to be a growing number of black Republicans.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional pri
From: Charley Noble
Date: 03 Jul 10 - 11:30 AM

Sawzaw-

Thanks for the update on Green's status as a US Senate nominee.

I was beginning to wonder when someone would mention him in this thread.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Sawzaw
Date: 03 Jul 10 - 09:47 AM

S.C. Democrats refuse to oust Alvin Greene as Senate nominee

Washington Post June 17, 2010

Members of the South Carolina Democratic Party's executive committee voted overwhelmingly tonight against holding a new Senate primary, upholding last week's controversial win by unemployed veteran Alvin Greene (D) over former state Rep. Vic Rawl (D).

Rawl, who lost to Greene 59 percent to 41 percent, had brought his case before the committee tonight, but the 61 members present rejected his protest by a five-to-one margin. Rawl said in brief remarks after the committee meeting that he would not appeal the decision. Greene did not attend the meeting, which took place in Columbia and lasted for more than five hours.

For the time being, the decision means that Greene remains the party's nominee to face Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) in the fall.

But with several unresolved questions surrounding Greene's candidacy, the next step is unclear: South Carolina legislators and watchdog organizations have called for further investigations into the primary, citing problems with voting machines, a felony obscenity charge facing Greene and the issue of his payment of the $10,440 candidate filing fee despite being unemployed.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 03 Jul 10 - 08:41 AM

It fueled growth for a short while, then turned into a huge money burning furnace that will surely end in runaway inflation.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 09:01 PM

Yo, mandatory....

Proclamations are just that!!! Proven??? By whom, pray tell??? Rush Limbaugh??? Glen Beck???

What a total crock of absolute bullshit and twisted rationalizations by a bunch of crybaby Republicans...

I mean, lets get the reality hat on here... WIC and Food Stamps ain't a blip on the federal budget... Now look at the surpluses that Slick Willie turned over to Bush... Much of that was fueled by cheap labor... The entire 90s economy was fuled by Hispanic labor... And guess what??? These folks will still work cheap??? Ain't that what you Repubs have always wanted??? I mean, cheap labor to bust up the unions??? Well, ya'll got it now and like the saying' goes, "Be carefull what you ask for"...

So fir ya'll now to be complainin' that all that cheap labor that fueled a decade of unprecidented growth is now costin' ya'' pennies on the dollar is somewhat hypocritical... Somewhat, Hell??? It's 100% bullshit hypocritical... It's kinda like slave owner mentality, come to think of it...

Google up WIC and Food Stamps as a percentage of the federal budget and ya'll see that this is the bullshitiest argument of all bullshit... Bar none... Just Republican immigrant hatin' talkin' points based on mythology...

B~

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Riginslinger
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 07:22 PM

Some illegals with phoney social security numbers have money taken out of their checks, and that money is deposited into an account. Probably more illegals with phoney social security have money taken out of their checks that stays with the crooked employers who hired them in the first place, but more illegals than that work under the table for cash, or are employed on farms and ranches and paid piece-work, so nothing is withheld, and nothing is paid into social security at all.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,mandatory8
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 06:48 PM

I see, we have millions of illegals "paying social security taxes.." etc. While at the same time, id theft has become a major issue. How do you suppose that works?
and I need to take a pole or something: what does illegal mean? And what would happen to you if you broke the law?

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Riginslinger
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 06:48 PM

"Where were these mental midgets in the 90's whn everything was humming from an influx of cheap labor..."


               See post June 28th, 01:42 AM

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: GUEST,mandatory8
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 06:33 PM

Whoa, it has been proven that illegal immigration costs taxpayers a LOT of money. Not necessarily everybody, and not necessarily on your federal income taxes. In a time of economic crisis, my property taxes have been going up about $500 a year, this will be the third year running. Almost all of that is schools. Most of that is influx of people from south of the border. That includes hiring of bi-lingual teachers. Besides that, you can take a look here in Texas, at who's on programs like WIC and food stamps, or look at the uninsured users of hospital emergency rooms, or, look at the jails and prisons. Not the federal prisons, but the state and county. Its ridiculous how many Mexican nationals are in County jails here, getting 3 hots and a cot, not to mention what damage they caused to victims. They shouldn't have been here in the first place. That's all costing somebody a ton of money. Why do you think Arizona enacted that law? Just to be pricks? they're going broke. You may be rich, but I can't afford it, either.
The southern border is a sieve by design, and the constitution gives the federal government the job of protecting the border. They aren't and they haven't been, knowing full well those border states are picking up the tab.
Nobody's ever minded a few people coming over, but its become a flood, now, and extremely flagrant. I don't even mind the drugs coming over, they're cheaper and safer than pharmaceuticals. Its the people bringing them now that bother me. I don't care about the Crips and bloods shooting things up now and then, they're not very good shots anyway. But these new guys, the Mexican and cental American gangs settling into our neighborhoods are dangerous. That's going to cost somebody way more than money in the future.
This is irresponsibility of the government on the highest order, playing political games with people's safety by allowing this to happen.
Its costing American taxpayers a lot of money. Perhaps you need your droopy eyelids opened. Try some Crystal meth, fresh from Mexico.

Subject: RE: BS:Alvin Greene-So. Carolina congressional primary
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Jul 10 - 06:17 PM

So when Obama proposes that immigration refom get pushed in Congress, as he did again yesterday, nothin' from the usual suspects who curl up into their victim shell and blame everything that is going wrong in their lives on Hispanics??? Hmmmmmm??? Where were these mental midgets in the 90's whn everything was humming from an influx of cheap labor... Nar a peep out the usual suspects... Normal... That's why they call it hypocrisy...

B~