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Uncle Phil 17 Aug 10 - 08:34 PM
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GUEST,Lin in Kansas 18 Aug 10 - 06:02 PM
Bill D 18 Aug 10 - 06:17 PM
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Subject: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 17 Aug 10 - 08:34 PM

Hmmm. I got home this evening and found my sweetheart poring over lists of camping gear and muttering. I wonder what that is all about?
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 05:57 AM

Since we just moved out of the camper last October, rumors that we might need to use it impelled me to open the door and look inside.

There was little to be observed suggesting a habitable space. Even the half-pot of coffee on the stove was cold (and vaguely discolored). I didn't look to see whether there was bacon in the skillet that may be stowed in the oven for transport.

A light bulb worked when I flipped the switch, indicating that the battery wasn't completely dead. Since the wall thermometer indicated 118 F, I plugged into external power and confirmed that the AC ran, although I didn't tarry to see if it actually cooled anything.

The truck goes to the shop this morning, for incompletely defined "modifications" so I guess I'll have to wait to start loading - might as well wait to start planning. I vaguely recall someone saying it's still two weeks to lineup.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: GUEST,Lin in Kansas
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 06:02 PM

Camper is "mostly" clean and invenntoried. I can sympathize with poring over lists and muttering. Need to sweep and mop the incredibly dirty floor since hooking up to external power did actually cool the thing off to somewhere around 85, livable more or less what with the 110-degree temps we've been having this summer. Don't know about the skillet yet, but I vaguely remember washing it before stowing it in the oven. We'll see.

Sugar and coffee filters are in there, so all is not lost. Now if I can just remember to pack coffee...

Yep, two weeks to lineup, and John hasn't done his normal "packing since March" routine. Gee, we may have to just park pickups and bricks in lineup and take the camper down when it's done, like eveyone else does. Oh no!

Stop by and see us in the usual space, we hope! As everyone says, "See ya in September!"

Anyone else showing up this year??

Lin


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 06:17 PM

*chanting "no rain" incantations for you all, and wishing I could make 'just ONE more'


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 06:22 PM

A "drive-by" (no shooting) about a week ago indicated fewer units waiting in the campground than I expected; but it was early enough that the low density doesn't really give an indication of eventual attendance.

Lineup begins 07:00 AM Thursday, 26 August. The gate from 14th street into the fairground opens then, and campers will be lined up in the order they pass inward through the gate after that time.

In normal years there generally have been 200 to 300 campers "in Lineup" by midnight that day.

Going through the gate, people must declare which camping area they intend, eventually, to be in for the festival, and will be directed to separate "lines" for their area. Although getting several hundred vehicles (many very large) through a single entry lane, with people "competing" to get in first, does result in significant congestion, last year only three vehicles (that I heard of) were seriously damaged. One automobile lost its entire front bumper (left on the side and picked up later) but fortunately none were sufficiently disabled to impede the flow.

In the preposterous belief that everyone follows directions, stays in line, and that the volunteers remember the order in which they assigned the spaces, on the following day (usually) the camping fees will be collected and the actual numbers (on paper tags to be stuck on the camper*) will be handed out. "Late arrivals" will be parked in the appropriate line(s) and will receive their numbers as they arrive.

* It is advised that those whose "camper" consists of something like a brick or piece of tree branch should place their "marker" in at least a baggie for protection from the weather and should securely attach it (duct tape?) to their brick. The camping fee is the same for a stick of wood as for an 80 ft self-contained, except you likely wouldn't need to pay for electricity for the smaller marker.

Two weeks later, at 07:00 on Thursday, 09 September, the Landrush begins. Each vehicle must "leave" the fairground and once they clear the designated exit point they are free to "rush" to their chosen camping spot. Although by this time there likely are nearly 600 - 800 vehicles participating, variations in acceleration capacity and ditch jumping ability result in more "spreading" between vehicles than in the rush in for lineup, so there generally are fewer vehicle collisions, and most damage is due to "fixed obstructions" such as trees, ditches, mudholes, etc.

Since the festival has been pretty much the same for 3.5 decades, many groups have their "traditional" places to camp, and have enormous investment in amenities specific to their customary site, there is very real concern with getting the right "spot" at Landrush; but for most of us who traditionally have camped in the more remote areas the ONLY real competition is for an electric outlet. If you don't get plugged in before the dust settles, you won't have one.

One week later, on Thursday, 16 September, the Festival officially begins, and lasts for 3.5 days.

There are occasional "workshops" and "community events" a couple of days prior to the official start of the festival, but those are quite variable and sometimes only vaguely publicised.

Since the flood two years ago that pretty much wiped out camping at the Fairgrounds there have been many rumors of groups now planning to camp at one of the "alternate sites" that were opened during the flood. There likely will be some groups at the Oxford RV Park, but the number who did so last year didn't match the advance rumors about how many planned to do so. Numerous people have indicated plans to park at the lake, but our past inquiries indicated that reservations, except for "primitive/tent campers" are needed nearly a year in advance there so I doubt that many will get in. But anyone "missing" friends in the Fairground camps may want to poke a nose into one or more of the other sites.

USGS Hydrometer reports indicate that the traditional early spring flooding at Winfield has not occurred this year. A minor "blip" yesterday doubled the flow, but only reached about 4.5 ft in the Walnut River at the camp - likely because of an upstream release. Weather reports thus far don't extend to festival time with sufficient detail to predict anything, but watching the weather probably is a good idea.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 10:35 PM

Just reheat the coffee, it's probably ok. The bacon might be a little hinkey, though.

We'll miss line-up and land rush this year. We're trying to simplify our trip this year, so first we'll go to Kansas City on Labor Day weekend for the Kansas City Irish Fest, then back to Dallas to work for a couple days, then to Wichita, and from there to Winfield. Chanting weather incantations the whole way.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: GUEST,Lin in Kansas
Date: 18 Aug 10 - 11:11 PM

Phil, I made him pour it out, although it probably wouldn't have tasted much different from the stuff we brew at the Festival. At least no spoons were standing in it.

No bacon in the skillet, thank goodness. For some reason, John wants me to decide things about what food/drink to take, when I haven't yet thought about that. Back to the lists.

While everyone is chanting for "no rain," add a couple or incantations for "no hundred-degree temperatures" to, will ya?

Lin


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 19 Aug 10 - 08:59 PM

Oh, we've grown accustomed to warmish weather in Texas this summer, but water falling out of the sky -- now that would confuse and frighten us. So we chant.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 20 Aug 10 - 12:36 PM

Yeah, I can understand that, Phil...even rain dances haven't done much for moisture here, much less curses and fist shaking.

Bill D, didn't mean to ignore your post. We wish you could be here, too. Despite all the hassles (and the older we get, the more there are), it's still a great time. Lots of terrific music, good pickers in the campgrounds, friends you only get to see at the Festival, etc., etc.

Gary T., are you going to make it this year? We missed you last year!

LiK


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Aug 10 - 05:13 PM

awww... thanks, Lin...(I always just camped in a tent those first 10 years...and always right in this area where the X is.

The little red dot is where 5-6 autoharpers sat and tuned for 20 minutes in 1971, then played the only song we could find that we all knew... "Little Darlin', Pal O'Mine"

I have slides of those 1st 2 years, and if I get the scanner I am looking at, I will put some interesting images up with that pic.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Aug 10 - 05:17 PM

Hey...did anyone notice that Google Earth has a "StreetView" of the fairgrounds...taken DURING the festival? You can zoom in and virtually drive thru the campgrounds. Amazing.... (there are huge campers where I used to have a lots of tent space all to myself.)


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 20 Aug 10 - 05:49 PM

Bill D -- how did you get to that? I get an empty fairground.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Aug 10 - 06:07 PM

Ummm... I just went to Winfield, found the fairgrounds, and opened StreetView.... (this IS GoogleEarth, NOT Google Maps...the images are often different.)


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Aug 10 - 06:10 PM

Oh...and you don't see the campers in the aerial view...only when you open street view...little cameras all over the area that you click on


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 20 Aug 10 - 07:20 PM

Took a while to figure out Google Earth, as compared with Earth view in Google Maps... but, got there eventually.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Aug 10 - 07:22 PM

I have 'driven' all over now, and this must be after landrush and before the actual festival... not many people 'out', and no picking to be seen... I did find The Dulcimer Alliance sign.

It really amazing to me, not having been there since 1980, how many places vehicles are parked where there didn't even used to BE places.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 21 Aug 10 - 12:14 PM

Bill D.,
Yes, there are camping spaces and vehicles and tents and pickups and trailers and pavillions, oh my! all over the darned place. More and more folks are discovering the Festival, and now the younger generation is finding out how much fun street stomping is. It gets pretty crazy sometimes, especially the final Saturday night. I think you would find a bunch of autoharpers stil trying to tune in the Walnut Grove, and I'd bet some of them might still know your song, too. Sure wish you could come see the "new" Winfield and check it out.

Art Thieme, where are you? Thinking about you, too. Winfield has a great history, ya know?

LiK


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 21 Aug 10 - 01:55 PM

I remember talking to Stefan Grossman after his performance at the Edinburgh Festival many years ago, and this rather pushy young American intruded into the conversation and asked him when he was going to come and do a concert in Kansas.

"Uh-uh, said SG, "I do East Coast, I do West Coast, I don't touch the badlands."

Reading this thread I am beginning to understand what he meant.

(Actually, I am just really jealous, I would love to attend Winfield some day, even though my youthful fantasies of entering the fingerpicking contest are receding rapidly ...)


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 23 Aug 10 - 04:53 AM

Camper is finally clean and semi-packed. Lists keep getting longer as to what to take and what to grocery-shop for. There are towering piles of "stuff" in the dining room. And I caught our "little" cat Vinnie playing with a (very) dead mouse on our bed yesterday.

Other than that, everything is going smoothly...

Murray, please be assured that even in the badlands, Winfield is a great time--even when you don't compete in the contests. You could always be a campground picking hero, after all.

Bill D., I tried and tried to steer Google Earth down "our" road at winfield, but it just wouldn't turn. Figures--everybody ignores the Pecan Grove except the pecanners who wouldn't camp anywhere else! Anyway, it was fun to see the campground from a bird's-eye view, and I did find a photo of a couple of good friends standing in the street (not an unusual thing for either of them). Hope you enjoyed your tour, too.

Only a couple more days to lineup...

LiK


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 23 Aug 10 - 06:44 AM

Yes, indeed, Lin is "ready to go."

I, on the other hand, having found most(?) of our camping stuff, have loaded about half of the "outside essentials;" but still have to get camp chairs, carpets, shade tarps, and such loaded. Oh yeah, if we remember them we might take some musical instruments. There's also two trailers and two tow vehicles needing battery, oil, tire, and other checks left to do. There's the minor matter of the water heater that's been putting out smoke like a coal generator, that probably has a bird nest in the stack. I've tried the argument that cold showers are good for you; but I don't think Lin is buying it. And I've still got garden hose and extension cords that need "containerized" to stow.

The camper, except for that water heater, seems about ready to go with the exception of "routine maintenance checks;" but those take a couple of days to do right (age being a factor).

We acquired a nice 8x10 covered utility trailer while we were swapping homes that solves the problem of transporting our "granny scooters" and keeping them out of the rain, if Lin's aging S10 manages to pull it down there. Yesterday I replaced her rear view mirrors with mini West Coast style ones both sides. A new tranny might have been more suitable; but if ya can't fix it, decorate it.

Her S10 lost two "factory" mirrors in the WVA campground in different years. Since the Original Equipment replacement for the first one was about $140, I used a "similar" aftermarket one for the second replacement and it's never been too satisfactory. The WCs are "breakaway" mounts that fold flat against the side of the vehicle so maybe they'll survive, and they're almost wide enough for her to see a little bit of road behind the little trailer.

I still need one "commercial" modification to my (tow) truck, that I'm hoping to get done this morning. Other changes will be "home made" and probably will be done in the campground during the Lineup wait (if at all).

In recent years I've usually gone down at least a week before Lineup, to try to get "close to the gate;" but we aren't likely to make it until later - probably Lineup day if possible - this year. My experience/observation is that if you're not parked at the gate when it opens you probably won't be able to get to the gate until sometime after noon. The late arrival makes it a bit questionable whether we'll be able to get electricity (necessary for our medical appliances) at our usual site, so it's fairly likely that we'll be forced to relocate. If so, we'll probably try for a space East of the grandstand, since there are fairly plentiful hookups there (for the first few hours) and it seems to fill up a little slower than the older "established" areas.

One of our regulars, with a large (50'?) camper won't be there, but another has abandoned his 20 year old "10 foot primitive popup" for a new self-contained and will be trying to take the vacated space (and hookup). We haven't seen the new camper so don't know how big it is; but as long as it "plugs in" it doesn't much matter how big a footprint it has and we've all agreed he's welcome to the space. (We're speculating that the new camper is because he's finally admitted he's getting too old to enjoy misbehaving and has decided he might as well bring his s.o. along. It could also be because she's believed some of the stories we told about him, and decided to come along to check them out.)

We appear to be having a slight break in temperatures, but the first drop in temps was accompanied by a drastic rise in humidity so there wasn't much noticeable difference. The local (Wichita) forecast a few minutes ago is for 20F cooler tomorrow than today, and for scattered thunderboomers, some with locally heavy rain for the next couple of days. River condition remains "low" so there's no threat of flooding - for now.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 24 Aug 10 - 11:27 PM

Just took the Google Earth tour. I didn't see anyone I know but I did find a picture of my car. I'm guessing the pictures were taken in 2007. 2007 was the first year we drove the jeep to Winfield, the fairgounds were were flooded and we camped by the lake in 2008, and some folks weren't camped where they were in 2009.

We're not making much progress packing for Winfield, but we won't be there until the 9th or 10th so we've still got time. 110F at the house yesterday, 107F officially at the airport, but about 15 degrees cooler today so maybe we're through the worst of it.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 25 Aug 10 - 12:23 AM

We're packing, but I'm not sure it should be called progress. Maybe "heaping things in the trucks" would be more descriptive.

There's probably no way we could get down there in time to hear the gate open for Lineup; but we hava a vague plan to get there sometime early in the afternoon same day. I still don't have a commitment on whether Lin will stay there (mostly) for Lineup or if she'll just park and go home until Landrush.

As long as the little trailer gets there to mark her place in line there's no real reason for her to stay; but if she's going to be back at the house I wouldn't need to pack the kitty litter.

I've spent most of today "building" a tarp cover for the back of the big truck. The pile got too tall to be roadworthy without some sort of cover. I can't say that everything is on board, but if it isn't it's 'cause I can't find it. The next problem, to be solved while I'm waiting in Lineup, will be identifying all the #@$!% that got loaded, and getting enough of an idea of where everything landed so we'll know where to find the necessaries.

I did finally get the tires all aired to spec. Only three (of the 14 on the ground - I skipped the spares) were a little low. That check should have been done a week ago; but my good compressor blew a piston rod (about a week ago) so I had to find another one.

It will take most of the day tomorrow (well, today in about half an hour) to try to remember how to hook up the camper and find out whether I can back it off the hilltop where it's parked. I've considered just shoving it over the edge and chasing it till finds a level spot but it would probably end up wedged in the drainage ditch out back.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 25 Aug 10 - 01:35 AM

John, Phil, Lin

Recently found out that an old friend of mine, Marty Taylor, is a Winfield native and was one of the original organizers of the festival. Y'all didn't know him, did you?


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 25 Aug 10 - 03:08 AM

Sorry LEJ, haven't met Marty to our knowledge.

Are you planning to make it this year? If you do, be sure to find "Thumper" and stop by to say hello!

LiK


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: JedMarum
Date: 25 Aug 10 - 02:07 PM

wishing y'all the best ... and fine weather too!


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 25 Aug 10 - 05:21 PM

Thanks Jed!

Wishing you were there, and planning to submit your name in the Suggestion Box again this year!

Weather forecast says it might actually cool off a bit this next week--yay!

Lin


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 26 Aug 10 - 09:51 AM

I don't know Marty Taylor, but I'll ask Michelle's Winfield relatives when we get up there. They might. Thanks, Jed. We're looking forward to seeing you and Hugh in Allen Friday night.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 01:56 PM

Just for info:

We arrived a little late for the Lineup, at about 3:00 pm first day. It's impossible to guess how we'll be numbered, but probably will be in the low to mid 200s for the Pecan Grove group.

We'll be mostly "just hangin'" in the campground, although at the moment we're back at the house for a mail check and laundry.

The areas filled with campers are much the same as recent prior years, but seem less "closely packed" so I'd guess about 2/3 the number actually in line when compared to the past few years at comparable times. Estimates are unlikely to be accurate, of course; and no official counts are given by those in charge.

It has been hot 95 - 98F) and muggy (70 - 80% RH), but forecasts are for somewhat cooler temps for the next week or so. The lower temps are, however, accompanied by predictions of "scattered" thunderstorms. We had about 1" of "scattered" last night, and some mildly blustery winds, but nothing to be too concerned about.

The lightning display, mostly high in the clouds, was quite spectacular for a while; but little of it was close enough to the ground to give good thunnerboomers.

We signed up for the campground wireless on the way out for this trip to the house, so haven't checked out the signal; but should be able to check the email from camp when we get back.

Very little music in camp thus far, although a couple of s.d.m. (small drunken mob) camps have howled a little. We expect activity to pick up next weekend when people come back to see if their tags are still on their bricks (or in one case on the very nice front door's brass knob).

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Art Thieme
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 02:45 PM

How is Bob Reford these days? Give him hearty salutations. And say that Art says HELLO !!!!!


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 02 Sep 10 - 04:29 PM

Hi Art! Don't see much of Mr. Redford these dzys, but if we should, we'll for sure give him your greetings.

We'll get our lineup numbers Saturday and hopefully see our camp folks out here to get theirs too. It's been pretty quiet so far, but the weekend is coming up quick.

Barbara and Al, are you going to be in Nowhere again this year? Watch out for a red scooter; I'll be by to say hello!

Lin in Kansas


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 02 Sep 10 - 06:49 PM

A sudden flurry of activity in the Lineup campsite, with a rapid change from muggy and hot, but calm, to sustained winds of about 35 mph with a few gusts that I would guesstimate at near 45 or 50 mph. It's still muggy, but suddenly about 10F cooler.

Since there are only a few people actually in the camp now, only about a half dozen canopies had to be furled in haste; but handling 100 square feet of canvas in a brisk (and gusty) wind isn't a "practiced art" among some of us. Those of us who could got ours stowed and then ran to rescue those holding on to the end they unhooked first - who couldn't let go of the loose end to go work the other end without losing it all.

No visible major property damage or injuries requiring med-evac, and large canvas spans have mostly disappeared.

Our radio hasn't given a weather report for a while, but a neighbor who had a "weather radio" on says the wind is forecast to last several hours, with "scattered heavy rain." We don't see visible indications of rain coming, but that can change pretty quickly.

The river here is about as low as I've seen it (officially 1.7 ft yesterday) with no rise from the most recent rain.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 02 Sep 10 - 10:05 PM

The Carp Camper in Chief posted thusly on Facebook today:

"The work is winding down, tasks handed over or abandoned...Winfield is calling, the bus is ready to roll!"

~ Becky in Long Beach
when not in Tucson


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: GUEST,Lance Allen
Date: 05 Sep 10 - 03:28 PM

Hey I'm coming solo to Winfield 2010 to compete in Fingerstyle contest. I was there last year and did well. I'm looking for a place to stay or sleep. Is there any suggestions?
email guitarlancer@hotmail.com


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 08 Sep 10 - 01:13 PM

URGENT(?) NOTICE OF CHANGE IN SCHEDULE

The Landrush originally scheduled for 07:00 AM Thursday 09 September 2010 has been OFFICIALLY rescheduled to 07:00 AM SATURDAY 11 September 2010.

The change has been announced on the "campground radio" and should be posted on the WVA website soon.

This is the time at which those here can move to their chosen campsites and set up camp for the festival. (It is also the time when people may find out whether they can get their chosen spots, and water and electric hookups to support staying for the festival.)

The change in schedule is due to a forecast of intermittent heavy rain for the next couple of days in the area, likely to cause muddy conditions. Rain during the originally scheduled landrush time is predicted, and could be intermittently heavy.

(Unlike prior years, the collection of fees through the end of the festival was done at "Lineup" rather than after landrush, so they already have the money, allowing more flexible scheduling.)

Although the rain forecast for the next few days will produce some mud-n-crud in the camping areas, thus far no general flooding is indicated. At last check the river here was stable at about 1.7 ft (flood stage is 16 ft) so flooding would depend on massive upriver rainfall in amounts that currently seem unlikely - - but of course not impossible.

Uncle Phil may want to check on other changes, as the new Landrush day appears to conflict with the (in)famous Winfield Hamburger Orgy. We're checking on changes to "pre-events" like parties and workshops, but have no info to report at present.

John


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: GUEST,FreeRangeJames
Date: 08 Sep 10 - 01:43 PM

J&L, thanks for the update, I'm off to Omaha today then, and returning Friday night to consider the LandRush zen thing.   Tom, from MO on the other side of my camper, across the lane, had his 10 foot EZUp shelter blow enough in the wind to bend/uselessify the main struts, but prior to that, they had a pretty good jam the other night, with the group that now camps by the huge multi-trunked willow down next to the river road in Pecan side, at the Joke Camp.

I don't know if you've wandered that far down since struck with the scooter-craze?   Anyhow, the band is called the Greenhorns (not to be confused with the Greencards), and had a nice fiddle and resonator guitar/hubcap thing, and Tom was on the banjo.   Nice.

See ya Friday!


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: jiminkansas
Date: 08 Sep 10 - 03:57 PM

Looking forward to another Winfield. I'm going to the mandolin workshop Wednesday with Anthony Hannigan, past mando champ. Looks like there might be some rain, no flooding though, yeah!

Was looking at Google Earth, think I found my campsite in the pecan grove, most be early in the week, not many people there yet. 2007?
Jim


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Sep 10 - 07:39 PM

You can't just look from above in Google Earth....that view was taken when nothing was happening. You gotta go to 'street view' (enable it in the menu at the left, then click on whatever little camera image is closest to where you want to look) Vehicles everywhere!


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: jiminkansas
Date: 09 Sep 10 - 07:21 AM

Yes, I use Google Earth a lot. I'm just saying that judging by the amount of people there it must be early in the festival. If you go up to the grandstand it looks like the vendors aren't set up yet. I'm also now thinking that it is 2006 not 2007, not positive though.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 11 Sep 10 - 01:24 AM

Well, we made it. We're parked somewhere in the Northeast corner of the fairgrounds until landrush in the morning. Pretty good thunderstorm moved through while we were setting up, but it's quieted down now.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Sorcha
Date: 11 Sep 10 - 04:57 PM

Wish I was going. :(


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: GUEST,Al no cookie
Date: 12 Sep 10 - 09:42 PM

Al and Barbara won't be there this year. Have fun.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: jiminkansas
Date: 13 Sep 10 - 07:09 AM

So, is it muddy there? Looks like isolated storms and temps in the 80's and 90's are predicated for most of the week. Sounds like a typical Winfield year, can't wait!
Jim


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: GUEST,Kansasgal
Date: 13 Sep 10 - 11:11 AM

It's so nice to read a veteran thread and realize how wonderfully rich and long Winfield's history is...

I'm 24 and this will be my second year attending, and since my experience last year, I've been counting down to this Wednesday when me and my little sister arrive. My lil sis has been going for nearly ten years with friends and last year we started a named campsite because so many of us and our friends have made Winfield a tradition.

We're aiming for camping at a corner in Pecan Grove near the train tracks. Does that direction make sense? Who knows. Still new.

Just an invite to stop by and say hi. We have young families and young adults that have started making Winfield a tradition. Thanks for pioneering the fest and keeping it going.

much love and stop by if you like! Camp happy hour every hour, bright pink signs, flowers, white/blue canopy, and several tents.

Erin


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 20 Sep 10 - 12:20 AM

Home again! Camper's parked at the curb; think we'll wait for daylight to put it in its proper spot.

Another Winfield--what else can anyone say. Had tornado warnings and heavy rain the night after Land Rush. A bunch of canopies and small tents at the West end of the Pecan Grove torn up (lots of white sticks along the road the next morning), but the center of the Pecan Grove didn't seen to have the same problems. Hot and muggy for days after that, and YES, muddy in spots too. Didn't bother the campground pickers however, and the workshops and performances went well.

I made the mistake of dragging my feet past the McSpadden booth, and succumbed to a serious case of DAS (or maybe it was just lust, I'm not sure). I now have a gorgeous new walnut McSpadden teardrop dulcimer (pictures to be posted soon). Winfield 2010 photos will be on Smugmug as usual--we'll post a link when I get them on line.

John's washtub bass made yet another trip to the road. He came back to camp one night without it and said he'd abandoned it to a group of bass players on the street. They played the heck out of it for a long while, but wheeled it back to our camp before the sun dawned.

Nice visiting with Uncle Phil and wife Michele, and got to jam a bit with them today. Gary T. dropped by one evening--apparently he went to the Dark Side (West Campground) this year! Al and Barbara, we missed seeing you. Camp Nowhere and Next to Nowhere were in their usual spots, though.

Once again, Winfield was lots of fun. Glad to be home, but already looking forward to next year!

Lin


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: jiminkansas
Date: 20 Sep 10 - 09:10 AM

Another great week!

Standing under the grandstands while the storm raged a jam broke out and help keep everyone calm. Everyone sang "Swing low, sweet chariot, Coming for to carry me home".

Thanks to Rosey on bass and Corey on banjo from South Carolina for letting us beginners jam with them, learned some great songs.

The Wilders were great as usual, the Chapmans were really a lot of fun, also enjoyed the Hickory Project, thanks Anthony from "FreePickin.com" for a great mandolin workshop.

See you September 14—18, 2011!

Jim


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Gary T
Date: 20 Sep 10 - 06:35 PM

Sorry I missed you all this year, except John whom I saw twice while attempting to find him, Lin, and the Waterhole gang. I got there Monday afternoon. My tent survived the almost-tornado with a minor pole bending, but my little canopy suffered several bent/broken poles and ripped fabric, and joined the other similar modern art metal sculptures in the trash. Karen came down Friday.

My walking was limited due to a knee acting up, so I didn't get around as much as I'd hoped. Nevertheless, I found some good jams near my camp. I was camped right behind Group Therapy/Front Porch Radio. One act on FPR was remarkable, Smythe and Taylor.

There was a noticeably smaller crowd this year than I've seen for over a decade. Didn't fill the stands Saturday night. Karen and I really liked Mountain Heart, and enoyed Notorious when they weren't playing traditional Hungarian toilet cleaning ritual music.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 12:54 AM

Home again in Dallas. The trip was uneventful, but getting up to go to work this morning was brutal. We were under the grandstand with you, Jim. We decided not to panic until the band started playing "Nearer My God to Thee".

Some storm pictures

Lots of good music on the stages this year. The Greencards remain our favs, but we really like Mountain Heart, The Farewell Drifters, Téada, Milk Drive, Notorious (even the Hungarian toilet cleaning ritual music), The Chapmans, Still on the Hill, Small Potatos, etc, etc, etc.

Good times, we started planning for next year on the drive home.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 22 Sep 10 - 01:02 AM

Oops, that last post was me not logged on.


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Subject: RE: Winfield 2010 - Walnut Valley Festival
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 04:16 PM

Haven't gotten the photos quite sorted yet, but Winfield 2010 pictures are posted here.

Additional photos donated by Lynn and George this year. Thanks, guys!

Lin


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