Folk awards FoI request denied

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: The Sandman
Date: 15 Dec 11 - 11:39 AM

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Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 15 Dec 11 - 06:33 PM

Hear, hear... Who is Emma anyway?

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: Geoff the Duck - PM
Date: 13 Dec 11 - 06:40 AM

I sometimes wonder about Mudcat...

Every day Emma Hartley starts a new thread which consists of "Tabloid Headline - come and click on the Blicky to my blog...". We then hear no more from her on the thread.
In the meanwhile, a bunch of mudcat regulars (are caught in the net and hauled up on deck flapping about like wet fish) spend hours arguing about whatever irrelevance was on the blog.

Personally I think the original daily posts should just be deleted as spam.

Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 15 Dec 11 - 06:41 PM

Is this She

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 15 Dec 11 - 07:08 PM

... climate change denier?

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 02:55 AM

What climate change ?

Dave H

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: glueman
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 05:31 AM

Seventies prices for seventies people! Where do I sign?

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 07:13 AM

well I've only just understood what the thread is about - seems a pity to close it down.

Still not totally sure why you're so worried about it.

I may be getting it wrong - but it seems to me that some people think that folk on radio should reflect the clubs, whereas in actual fact - its sort of adjunct of the recording industry/ entertainment industry/ agents of artists who gig small theatres.

In actual fact GSS (I respect you a lot) I think we just have to render unto Caesar what is Caesars. Nowadays things aren't too bad - we have the internet. Its no use craving what isn't up for grabs. I know the BBC's charter makes all sorts of promises, but look how far off the mark they are in lots of ways - its bound to be very contolled by middle and upper class English people who think that culture is just something that posh folk know about.

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: GUEST, Knit-Picker
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 07:18 AM

... climate change denier?

That's a thickness of wool, right?

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 07:27 AM

... climate change denier?

That's a thickness of wool, right?
Or should that be "wooly-headed & thick"?

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: GUEST,Spleen Cringe
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 09:52 AM

I should add that my post of 15 Dec 11 07:08pm above makes no sense at all now the one it was a response to has been removed. Just fer the rekkid. Not that it made a great deal of sense before.

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: GUEST,John Bullshite
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 10:11 AM

yep some of the mudcat mods have gone delete power crazy again just recently.

They are particularly targeting British cultural humour, harmless trifling little jokes and ironic wordplays
that they just don't seem to understand..

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 01:24 PM

"British cultural humour, harmless trifling little jokes and ironic wordplays"

Very funny, yes very funny

L in C#

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: GUEST,999
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 01:27 PM

There was nowt funny about the deleted post. If indeed that is what passes for Brit humour these days your country is surely in trouble.

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: GUEST,John Bullshite
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 01:36 PM

I wasn't referring specifically to only that most recent deleted post.
Which incidentally I didn't write.

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: Paul Davenport
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 02:15 PM

I tried to read this thread from the start…it doesn't make sense.

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 02:43 PM

no you're right Paul it doesn't mke sense. But this award thing has been upsetting folks for years.

I don't really see a solution. The whole folk thing - well some folk try and say its all about some traditional baloney - but in actual fact, its about British people expressing themselves with great individualism.

And you are never going to reconcile that level of individualism, with all the compromises and and marketing concerns of a music industry - probably the most competitive game in the world outside English League Football.

There may be confluences of interest - but they are always going to be very shallow tributaries of folk music in England.

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 16 Dec 11 - 03:36 PM

The judges must be grateful that they are protected from lobbying. Most of them will be known to Alan Bearman of course, but I'm sure he doesn't lobby them at all.

Like Peregrina, a Mudcatter of two years' standing with 700-plus posts racked up, I quite like Emma's blog. Does that mean that I too am Emma, Folknacious?

Anyway, I hope Emma follows up, because there is no justification for the BBC playing its "journalism art or literature" card. And its claim that the judges are not performers is a straightforward lie.

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: Silas
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 04:21 AM

Well Peter K, I don't think it's the number of times you post that is important, its the number of posts you read that makes the difference.

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 05:59 PM

Silas, that doesn't explain why Folknacious should accuse a long-established member of being an alias for someone else.

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: The Sandman
Date: 17 Dec 11 - 06:10 PM

folknacious, what can one say about him?
he makes irrational comments, and he accuses a long established member of being an alias for someone else.

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Dec 11 - 02:40 PM

I wish I had an alias. An alter ego. I'd call him something sexy, but full of Celtic charm like .......Clint MacWhanger.

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 18 Dec 11 - 03:22 PM

Or maybe something musical, like Reel Goat (anagram for Alter Ego)?

Dunno about charming, but it's Celticky…





Well, that's what bodhrans are made out of, and they can accompany reels, and… and… y'know…

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Dec 11 - 04:29 PM

no Bonnie, goats are randy.. I can do that as I am. I see Clint as sexually desirable,,,, you know the sort of thing.....essentially a babe magnet, but sort of unattainable and aloof.

Like Greta Garbo,   I vont to be alone......

You know how it drives you women wild.

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Dec 11 - 09:11 PM

I don't actually want wild, more sort of panting with sexual desire....that's the effect I feel Clint should aim for.

I'm sure a sophisticated American lady, with a wild celtic streak knows all about that stuff.......

Merry Christmas, by the way!

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request denied
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 19 Dec 11 - 09:10 PM

These awards ....did you and Packie ever get one?

Subject: Folk awards FoI request gets Orwellian
From: EmmaHartley
Date: 25 Jan 12 - 06:28 PM

http://theglamourcave.blogspot.com/2012/01/freedom-of-information-act-redefines.html

Curiously UBC Media Group, which owns Smooth Operations, has lost more than 20 per cent off its share price since the furore about the folk awards blew up. No idea whether the two things are connected...

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request gets Orwellian
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 Jan 12 - 07:09 PM

Emma, why don't you post your new blog entry links to the original blog announcement instead of starting a new thread each time? You post one remark then never come back, so you might as well post it by adding on to the one place. It lends more continuity to your work, for one thing. Makes you less of a target, for another. IMHO.

SRS

Subject: RE: Folk awards FoI request gets Orwellian
From: GUEST,Spleen Cringe
Date: 26 Jan 12 - 05:39 AM

Would that be the "furore" that was started by a journalist hoping to stir up a bit of controversy to get people to visit her blog? Just askin'...