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Jack Campin 25 Jun 14 - 10:16 AM
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Joe Nicholson 28 Jun 14 - 10:04 AM
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Willa 28 Jun 14 - 01:28 PM
GUEST,trews 28 Jun 14 - 07:08 PM
Jack Campin 28 Jun 14 - 07:25 PM
Mo the caller 29 Jun 14 - 04:41 AM
Murpholly 29 Jun 14 - 06:36 AM
selby 29 Jun 14 - 07:38 AM
GUEST 29 Jun 14 - 08:03 AM
Jack Campin 29 Jun 14 - 08:18 AM
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Mo the caller 20 Jul 14 - 05:08 PM
GUEST,Malcolm Storey 20 Jul 14 - 08:05 PM
GUEST,Raggytash 21 Jul 14 - 05:46 AM
GUEST,Malcolm Storey 21 Jul 14 - 08:45 AM
r.padgett 21 Jul 14 - 10:54 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 21 Jul 14 - 12:23 PM
Raggytash 21 Jul 14 - 04:26 PM
GUEST,Malcolm Storey 21 Jul 14 - 08:53 PM
Raggytash 22 Jul 14 - 02:44 AM
Mo the caller 22 Jul 14 - 05:33 AM
GUEST,Malcolm Storey 22 Jul 14 - 06:39 AM
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r.padgett 03 Aug 14 - 02:36 PM
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GUEST 04 Aug 14 - 01:32 AM
selby 04 Aug 14 - 02:04 AM
GUEST,Ian 04 Aug 14 - 03:02 AM
GUEST,Guest 04 Aug 14 - 03:26 AM
GUEST,trews 04 Aug 14 - 05:30 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 04 Aug 14 - 05:48 AM
nutty 04 Aug 14 - 07:44 AM
GUEST,Peter 04 Aug 14 - 09:11 AM
GUEST,The Station Inn, Whitby 04 Aug 14 - 03:59 PM
GUEST,cujimmy 05 Aug 14 - 07:45 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 06 Aug 14 - 04:31 AM
r.padgett 06 Aug 14 - 05:08 AM
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Subject: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,trews
Date: 25 Jun 14 - 08:10 AM

we are going for the first time for years - where's the best places for instrument sessions?


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Jun 14 - 08:28 AM

There are a variety of organised sessions which you will find in the festival programme.

For informal sessions perhaps you should give us a hint of the style that you like to play.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 25 Jun 14 - 10:16 AM

It's also worth looking in the Whitby Wailer (at least for the first couple of days, it stops being much use after that). If you can find one - usually it's only available in the sports centre where the stalls are. A Twhitby Twhitter would do the same job better.

I could be at any of the not-just-Irish or not-just-singing sessions. There should be a Eurosession (mainly French) at the Yacht Club in the afternoons which won't be in the programme and might not be mentioned in the Wailer.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Jun 14 - 01:55 PM

The Board Inn tends to lean toward old time american music with a bit of Irish.The Ship was traditionally a great pub for Irish sessions but for some reason last year it was out of favour, its hoped that the sessions will take off again this year. The Fishermans Rowing Club last year was busy with musicians most evening after 7.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,trews
Date: 26 Jun 14 - 06:06 AM

refresh


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 26 Jun 14 - 07:26 AM

Whitby is a pretty small place. The only session you wouldn't find by simply walking round the harbour area is the First In Last Out (mixed singing and instrumental) - search on this site for info about that.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 26 Jun 14 - 07:49 AM

Hi Trews,

The sessions in Whitby are many and varied. For instance last year there were workshops (normally mid morning) on Whistle, Melodian, Concertina, Fiddle and Ukelele. Past years have seen other instruments, Guitar, banjo, Bodhran etc etc.

Last year the organised music sessions (as opposed to the fringe) where held in the Middle Earth, Fisherman's Rowing Club, Dolphin, and Conservative Club.

In addition to the festival "proper" there is a huge fringe element at Whitby which can normally only be found by wandering round and listening out for the music.

You're sure to find something that ticks the box during the week. Good Luck!


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,trews
Date: 26 Jun 14 - 11:30 AM

Thanks everyone!


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Jun 14 - 12:31 PM


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jun 14 - 05:02 AM

avoid like the plague the closed Irish sessions run by the Leeds crowd


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,trews
Date: 28 Jun 14 - 07:43 AM

"avoid like the plague the closed Irish sessions run by the Leeds crowd"
duly noted!
where's that?


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Joe Nicholson
Date: 28 Jun 14 - 10:04 AM

I do not know if there is an Irish session run by a Leeds crowd at Whitby but if I wanted to go to it then I would. The whole point about going to Whitby is that there is so much going on that if you make the effort, use your ears your eyes your voice but most of all your feet then you will find what you are looking for.

Joe Nicholson


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Richie
Date: 28 Jun 14 - 12:27 PM

Trews ignore the guest above, I've been going to the Irish sesions in Whitby for the best part of 15 years and there are NO "closed sessions" run by any particular group of people. The music at these sessions is of a high standard and everyone is made welcome.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Willa
Date: 28 Jun 14 - 01:28 PM

Well said Joe! looking forward to hearing you and Mo again at your singarounds.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,trews
Date: 28 Jun 14 - 07:08 PM

really helpful advice here - thanks a lot :)


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 28 Jun 14 - 07:25 PM

It would be nice to know what instrument and genre "trews" plays. Warning: sessions are usually too crowded for a steam calliope to be safe and there isn't usually room for an alphorn.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Mo the caller
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 04:41 AM

You could squeeze in a lot more musicians if they didn't need elbow room, and somewhere to put the instrument cases.

Jack, there is already a Whitby FW twitter and Facebook page, session organisers could use that if they wanted others to join them.

I love Whitby, highlight of the folk year. So many helpful people sharing expertise at so many levels. Where else would you arrive early for a session and find a bagpipe tucked under your arm?

The season tickets are excellent value if you want to go to concerts and dances and sample lots. Or you can find a lot of events in pubs for the price of whatever you want to put in the collecting tin, and pay as you go for other events. Worth buying a programme anyway.
There are moderate speed sessions (look out for George Garside, he doesn't allow racing), normal sessions, May Cheadle runs an extra slow session in the Spa (useful for beginners and those trying a new instrument), and if there are 'closed Irish sessions' then it keeps those who want to play fast from getting bored and leaves more room in the other sessions. Enough pubs for us all - though running up and down the hills between them can be tiring.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Murpholly
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 06:36 AM

Have to tell the Whitby faithfulls that Nev. Nichols (spoon player and singer especially of mining songs) who for many years stewarded at Whitby camp grounds has lost his fight with cancer. He will be sorely missed by local clubs and at many festivals. Wonder what the spoons and harps sounds like but I am sure Nev is letting fling up there.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: selby
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 07:38 AM

Whilst what Mo tells you is very true, the reverse is true, you do come across some self centered arrogant people. Remember they are in the minority not the majority.
Keith


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 08:03 AM

Nev was a great guy with his spoons.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 08:18 AM

George Garside can't make it this year. See melodeon.net for rather more than you might want to know about why.

Hope it goes well, George.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 29 Jun 14 - 11:49 AM

O, come on Jack.

Do tell!!


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 19 Jul 14 - 07:41 PM

Festival programmes should be in the local shops in the next day or two. I've already bought a copy for the distributor.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 19 Jul 14 - 08:13 PM

Same palaver to get a programme in advance as in previous years - you have to send a cheque and SAE to an address in Bradford, they can't process a card transaction or address an envelope.

I give up. I'll just buy one when I get there (instead of ordering two in advance).


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 20 Jul 14 - 07:12 AM

Take 2

Poor old Jack - it never works for you does it?

There are perfectly good reasons for asking people to apply by post for a programme in advance, not the least of which is the need for accuracy when dealing with large numbers of applications and the absorbitant cost of small card transactions.

I seem to remember that at one time you had to send your applications to Selby but that was before you became an expert on all things Whitby!


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 20 Jul 14 - 08:24 AM

I can't make any sense of that last sentence and I'm not sure I want to. Who, where or what is Selby?


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: selby
Date: 20 Jul 14 - 09:51 AM

Jack
Selby is a market town south of York.
Keith


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Mo the caller
Date: 20 Jul 14 - 11:45 AM

I would willingly pay estimated postage in advance with my season ticket. It annoys me every year.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 20 Jul 14 - 02:58 PM

There are just 5 people who arrange the vast majority of Whitby Folk Week, they do it (as far as I am aware) for free. They willingly give their time, trouble and expertise year after year. There are numerous other people, who again give their time for the benefit of the thousands of people who attend every year,(Stewards etc)they also should be given credit for the work they do. If the biggest of the gripes that you have is you have wait till you get to Whitby to buy a programme I'd say they were doing a bloody good job.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: r.padgett
Date: 20 Jul 14 - 04:00 PM

Selby at a guess would have been Malcolm Storey and Bradford Val Marsden maybe

Ray


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 20 Jul 14 - 04:49 PM

Trew

The music sessions in the programme are

Sat:
Con Club            1 - 3
Fishermans          1 - 3
Middle Earth       5 - 7
Dolphin             5 - 7
Fishermans          5 - 7


Sun:
Con Club            1 - 3
Fishermans          1 - 3
Middle Earth       5 - 7
Dolphin             5 - 7
Fishermans          5 - 7

That's it for now, I'll look at the rest of the week tomorrow!


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Mo the caller
Date: 20 Jul 14 - 05:08 PM

It's often useful to know who is leading the sessions as styles vary.
Some leaders go round the room, some ask for suggested names of tunes, with some it's a free-for-all. And the type of music that the leaders play themselves affects the type of participants that turn up. Though no-one will say that you can't play your favourite (or only) tune.

Raggy, who's leading the Saturday Sessions?


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 20 Jul 14 - 08:05 PM

The Padgett is of course correct.

I usually keep well clear of these pointless discussions but if anyone can tell me exactly how much postage is going to be next July, when you look at the complicated rigmarole the (ex) Royal Mail has imposed in recent years to boost profits for shareholders, then can I borrow your crystal ball please?


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 21 Jul 14 - 05:46 AM

Incorrect Malcolm, I don't think Ray does the music sessions

Sat Lunch 1-3

Con Club             - Dearman, Gammon, Harrison
Fishermans          - Chris Dyson & Friends

Sat Eve 5 - 7
Middle Earth         - Ken Watson
Dolphin             - Not Given
Fishermans          - Robin Garside


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 21 Jul 14 - 08:45 AM

No wonder I do not usually bother!

I am not wrong Raggybits - I was referring to Ray's latest post about festival addresses and not about sessions.

Would suggest for clarity that date and times be quoted in any response.

ie

Ray's 20 july 2014 4pm

Yours 21 july 2014 5.46am

I presume the times are USA EST

Trust this will not be misinterpreted.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: r.padgett
Date: 21 Jul 14 - 10:54 AM

Agreed Malcolm, often up in the middle of the night

Ray


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 21 Jul 14 - 12:23 PM

Apologies Malcolm, could I suggest I might have taken alcoholic liquid refreshment a stage too far!


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Raggytash
Date: 21 Jul 14 - 04:26 PM

A little thread drift:

The annual Whitby to Glaisdale Folk Express is on again this year, raising money for the Runswick Bay Rescue Boat. Please see the separate thread.

Cheers


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 21 Jul 14 - 08:53 PM

Thanks Raggybits

That's the first time someone has actually acknowledged that I could be right.

Good luck with the Glaisdale trip.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Raggytash
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 02:44 AM

Far from it Malcolm, without your hand at the tiller WFW would not be the power that it is, and I for one will always be grateful for the immense amount of work you must have put in over the years. Through Whitby I have made loads of mates from all over the country, heard some great singing and playing and generally had a load of fun for decades.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Mo the caller
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 05:33 AM

I'll second that. Marvellous value for money too.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 06:39 AM

Please Raggybits - spare my blushes - methinks you go too far!

But thanks anyhow.

cheers


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,trews
Date: 23 Jul 14 - 06:11 AM

Thank you all for your contributions. Most helpful. See you all there.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 05:04 AM

Parking restructions in Whitby changed at Easter. Would anybody with local knowledge care to comment on the enforcement?

I did notice that pensioners passes do not get you a free trip on the Park and Ride bus which also gives a nice convenient daytime shuttle between the station and North Terrace (for Spa and Whalebones).


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Linda Kelly
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 01:23 PM

The Fleece pub has new management and the landlady is all ready to welcome folkies during folk week. I believe it fell out of favour with musicians over the last couple of years and she would like everyone to know all are welcome.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,trews
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 01:42 PM

I can't find good details of bus routes - we're going to stay on the outskirts on Larpool Lane and could do with a bus ride now and again. Anyone got local knowledge?


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Peter
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 02:06 PM

Times for Arriva North East, not Arriva Yorkshire as you might think.

Most journeys are usually quicker on foot.

Last year there was a bus from the station to the Football club nicely timed to let you eat in town and then get to the evening session just after all the decent seats had been taken.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: r.padgett
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 02:36 PM

Is the Endeavour up and running again?

Ray


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Geoff the Duck
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 04:37 PM

In answer to an earlier guest, The Ship last year was under new management after the previous landlord, Matthew passed away. I believe it has now changed ownership and may be in favour again.

Just round the corner from the Star, along the back road past the Shell Shop, The Star is now owned by a folkie, who will be hosting some official and unofficial festival events. It may be worth checking out what happens.
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Commander Crabbe
Date: 03 Aug 14 - 07:34 PM

Hi everyone

Just to let you know that due to a widening difference in expectations on both sides we will not be running sessions in the First Inn Last Out during folk week this year. Nor is it intended to continue with the regular Tuesday or first Saturday of the month sessions.

In the interim we have agreed with the Fleece to run a session each Wednesday starting at 8:30 ish. We will also be found in there during folk week.

Chris


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 01:32 AM

Yes the Endeavour is up and running. And the pie shop opposite provides a very welcome break.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: selby
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 02:04 AM

I also understand there is a very good folk festival happening in Whitby around that time with some good concerts.May be worth checking out.
Keith


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Ian
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 03:02 AM

Agree with comment above about pie shop opposite. Went the other week and discovered that you are welcome to take in your own alcoholic drinks if you wish.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 03:26 AM

Well put Keith.

I knew there was a reason we were thinking of going to Whitby around that time.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,trews
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 05:30 AM

Think you missed the point, Keith....


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 05:48 AM

Methinks Keith is being ironic, nowt wrong with that. The festival has to be one of the best, if not the best, festivals in the country. Because of that it also attracts a large fringe, again possibly the best in the country. Just as a thought though Keith if everyone who came to Whitby tried to get into the festival "proper" there would no doubt be major ructions at most venues!!


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: nutty
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 07:44 AM

Whats the current situation on parking camper vans in Whitby? At one time it was muted that the Council were going to ban them - Has that now been quashed?


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Peter
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 09:11 AM

There are new parking rules this year. See the link posted by "guest" 3 Aug 5:04 AM.

No response to the request about what is actually happening on the ground.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,The Station Inn, Whitby
Date: 04 Aug 14 - 03:59 PM

As always we will be open longer than usual for Whitby Folk Festival, our opening times are as follows:

Fri 15th Aug to Fri 22nd Aug inclusive - 10am to 2am daily,

We look forward to seeing you all again for another great week!

Everyone welcome :)

Cheers,
Colin, Andrew, Pat, Fen, Carly, Rob, Vicky and Lucy x


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,cujimmy
Date: 05 Aug 14 - 07:45 AM

The Station was brilliant last year, looking forward to music and having a few jars (x 100) in there this year, FILO was very good too, what a shame its not happening in there again this year.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 06 Aug 14 - 04:31 AM

Re pensioners not getting a free pass on the park and ride bus. As my good lady asks why should anyone get a free ride on it. You are supposed to park out of town and use the bus to get into town and back to the car park. It is NOT a normal bus service but is there in an attempt to reduce parking congestion in the town centre.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: r.padgett
Date: 06 Aug 14 - 05:08 AM

What a pity that the Park and Ride is not part of the normal service and a charge is made, unlike other tourist towns and cities, and keeping with the National bus pass concessions

Ray


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Aug 14 - 05:23 AM

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Re pensioners not getting a free pass on the park and ride bus. As my good lady asks why should anyone get a free ride on it."

@Raggytash
Many P&R schemes accept passes. A factual warning that Whitby's was not one of those schemes does not imply an opinion that it should be.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 06 Aug 14 - 06:38 AM

Point taken. I defer to your greater knowledge of Bus Schemes, I rarely take the bus although I have pinched the odd car in the past.


Joking,only joking I haven't pinched the odd car in the past ........


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Mo the caller
Date: 06 Aug 14 - 12:03 PM

Chester Park and Ride used to accept my bus pass. It caused chaos in the bus queues when they stopped it, and all us old dodderers had to get off the bus and go and find change for the ticket machine (all indignant)


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 06 Aug 14 - 01:09 PM

You can use a pensioners' bus pass on any bus in Scotland, and that includes park&rides. Might be relevant for people visiting Edinburgh or Glasgow for a festival...

...from somewhere else in Scotland. Scotland and England don't recognize each other's bus passes.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 06 Aug 14 - 01:46 PM

Suggest that the parking issue be addressed on the separate thread.

Just for info - Pensioner pass holders pay a reduced fare on York P & R.

Once the Conservatives are voted back in next year by all the well off pensioners then bus passes will disappear - be warned!


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Susan of DT
Date: 09 Aug 14 - 09:11 AM

See you all there. Dick Greenhaus and I are coming over this year.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 11 Aug 14 - 02:13 PM

Passing this on, about the Eurosessions:

The sessions will be held every afternoon starting on Saturday from 3pm until 5pm at Whitby Yacht Club, Pier Road - on the corner opposite the bandstand for anyone who hasn't been before. Dancing is encouraged at all these sessions.

You may also be interested in 2 other fringe workshops with de Mowbray's Musicke which the Yacht Club is hosting immediately before the Eurosession. The first of these is on Tuesday, 19 August from 2pm - 3pm - Mediaeval Dances as danced by the common people; and the second is on Wednesday 20 August from 2pm - 3pm - Tudor Dances of court and country.


I'll be there.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Noreen
Date: 11 Aug 14 - 08:33 PM

Very interesting, thank you Jack- but what is a Eurosession?


Keith, are you assuming that people asking about fringe sessions are not buying festival tickets?

We have come to Whitby with full tickets for several years, and enjoy fringing too- it's all part of the Wonderful Whitby experience.
Exhibiting a negative attitude to the fringe doesn't do anyone any good. Other festivals I know well that have discouraged fringers without festival tickets have found that these would-be fringers do NOT buy festival tickets, they just stay away altogether- to the detriment of the whole festival.

Let's keep Whitby inclusive! :)


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 11 Aug 14 - 08:57 PM

I find it very difficult to understand how someone who does not contribute financially to a festival directly can possibly enhance that festival.

The person above is obviously quite happy to subsidise these parasites. I personally would rather not.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Aug 14 - 11:54 PM

Why are fringes important at festivals?

They off alternative complementary activites to the main festival
B3cause fringe activities are usually free they pull in passers by who might not be especially interested in the music
Some festivsl are overorganised and fringes provide opportunities for more spontaneous singarounds and session of which there are fewer at so e festival
By their ticket cost, festivals are at risk of excluding their target audience. Fringe activities permit inclusion of all regardless of cost.
People who attend fringes to festival are hardly "parasites" but probavly complement the main event?


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Mo the caller
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 02:27 AM

At Whitby there is the Festival Fringe, listed in the programme which although free is visited by a steward with a collecting tin, as well as an informal fringe organised on the grapevine.
For many season ticket holders the fringe and free events are an important part of the week and we would think twice about coming if all that was on offer was concerts and dance workshops.

Some festivals may thrive on Big Names but Whitby is about taking part.

Some of the friends I meet at Whitby have season tickets. Some prefer to play music in pubs most of the day but buy a ticket for any workshop that takes their fancy. Others perhaps are happy to meet up with a group of friends and make music, which means that there is always a session going on when we want one.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 02:52 AM

I like it!


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 03:39 AM

I presume the content-free message before this was a spammer testing.

The Eurosession plays tunes from continental Europe. Predominantly French but anything goes. At one point last year we had three nyckelharpas at once.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Noreen
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 05:22 AM

I find it very difficult to understand how someone who does not contribute financially to a festival directly can possibly enhance that festival.

I don't bother entering into conversation with someone hiding their head in a paper bag, which obviously will make understanding difficult.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Betsy
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 06:28 AM

Raggytash, it might be a good idea to "Refresh" the Glaisdale train thread.
I would do it myself but can't remember the exact Subject title .

Thanks

Betsy .


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Paul Reade
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 07:16 AM

I find it very difficult to understand how someone who does not contribute financially to a festival directly can possibly enhance that festival.

Sessions (and folk clubs) are the "bedrock" of the folk scene - just people who love to get together and sing, play or just listen to the music we love.

Festivals on the other hand seem to be elitist "closed shops" with the same old faces headlining, which is why I rarely go to them. What I do object to is that they expect the rest of us to subsidise them either by "contributing financially" or through the various "festival fundraisers" I've seen advertised.

To turn this whole argument on its head, without the clubs and sessions there wouldn't even be any festivals.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 08:20 AM

The "official" festival and the fringe complement each other very well at Whitby. A lot of the same people go to sessions and concerts, ceilidhs or workshops. We won't be buying a weekly ticket this year, but we go to enough official events that it would nearly be cost-effective.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 10:36 AM

"Festivals on the other hand seem to be elitist "closed shops" with the same old faces headlining, which is why I rarely go to them. "

Probably because of Whitby's anti-elitist system of listing performers aphabetically. 422 always end up top of the bill - they really should stop booking oldies like Sam Pirt .....


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 12 Aug 14 - 01:48 PM

Are there any early music workshops this year?

I'd like to know so I can decide which instruments to pack.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 13 Aug 14 - 01:47 PM

Nobody?

A couple of years ago there was an early music workshop with Andy Casserley and others. Can somebody look in their programme?


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 13 Aug 14 - 06:16 PM

Really Jack you must stop being a professional Scot and buy a programme in advance - the postage is only a wee bawbee after all.

Too late now though - just think - you could have had one weeks ago and be all packed and ready to go with all the right nose flutes and bangalodeons.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jeri
Date: 13 Aug 14 - 09:15 PM

Posting as a mod, but I don't want to leave this in someone else's post.

Someone else's anonymity is no excuse for abuse. Feel free to argue with someone's opinion, but please forgo the verbal beating. I deleted an abusive post and replies. Please understand that abuse is going to hit anyone who reads it, not just your intended target.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: vectis
Date: 14 Aug 14 - 12:31 AM

This parasite used to go to quite a few concerts and workshops just paying at the door so many of us do contribute to the festival. We do put into the tins, spend money in the town and support the teams dancing around the place. I just couldn't make a ticket pay as I went there to sing and play most of the time.
Oh! And raise money for the lifeboat too.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Musket
Date: 14 Aug 14 - 02:22 AM

I love Whitby and have done on and off for 35 years now.

Luckily, in all that time I never seem to come across any of the name calling and professional versus beardy with crib sheet in a pub arguments that seem to haunt this thread.

I go to enjoy both and always do.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 14 Aug 14 - 05:27 AM

Vectis

The parasite comment obviously does not apply to you and you are not alone in that.

It is worth pointing out though that without the festival there would be no fringe.

You obviously acknowledge that by contributing financially.

A lot of people do not - they are the parasites.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: r.padgett
Date: 15 Aug 14 - 04:08 AM

Right, now Whitby ff week starts Saturday so get your bucket and spades and bodhrans and rattles and lollipops and wave your hankies!!

Don't forget your wallets as beer is expensive, play that instrument you have been practising all year and sing those songs where ever and whenever you can

Tickets are for what you want to see when you want to see 'em and rattle the collectors bucket as you go along watching the well drilled dancers (and some not so well drilled!)

Enjoy yourselves or else!!

Ray


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Jack Campin
Date: 15 Aug 14 - 06:57 AM

Really Jack you must stop being a professional Scot and buy a programme in advance - the postage is only a wee bawbee after all.
Posting as a mod, but I don't want to leave this in someone else's post.
Someone else's anonymity is no excuse for abuse. Feel free to argue with someone's opinion, but please forgo the verbal beating. I deleted an abusive post and replies. Please understand that abuse is going to hit anyone who reads it, not just your intended target.


Read back in the thread and you will see that the poster is an anonymous bully who has some kind of grudge about me (and posts in response to just about anything I say about Whitby). There is NO excuse for letting a thug like that indulge in that kind of harassment and it's put itself far beyond the point where it merits politeness in response. Get the cunt off Mudcat NOW.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Mysha
Date: 15 Aug 14 - 07:08 AM

Jeri,

Someone's own anonymity is no excuse for abuse either. They should feel free to argue with someone's opinion, but they should forgo the verbal baiting.

Could you, please, remove the insulting post as you've remove the abusive replies to it.

Thanks,
                                                                Mysha


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Dennis the Elder
Date: 15 Aug 14 - 08:20 AM

I agree no one shall post aggressive and insulting comments and these should be removed, but, there is never an excuse for obscenity Jack


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 21 Aug 14 - 01:56 PM

It has been lovely to meet Susan of DT and Dick Greenhaus in Whitby again, and to hear them singing rare and interesting ballads at the lunchtime sessions. Dick was showing pre-publication copies of a couple of new books from Camsco publications - a second volume of unpublished 'Songs the Whalemen Sang' by Gale Huntington, and a book by Ed Cray on the Wild West shows - both of which looked very intriguing, and I look forward to seeing them on sale soon.

Matthew


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: The Sandman
Date: 21 Aug 14 - 02:46 PM

it is some while since i have been booked at Whitby. I think it is the perfect location for a festival, I prefer it to Sidmouth.
Malcolm Storey was better as a festival organiser than a creeketer


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Mo the caller
Date: 23 Aug 14 - 05:03 PM

Over the years we've had 'dance from 9.30 am- 1.30 am' Whitbys
'Join the Band' Whitbys (and play for the Hobby Horse Club)
'harmony singing' Whitbys
'session Whitbys'

This year was a 'concert Whitby', and we are now experts at the venues with the most comfortable seats.
I don't usually go to festivals for the concerts - but what an excellent line-up. A real pleasure.
As were all the other bits and pieces we fitted in.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Musket
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 03:21 AM

I managed to go twice, so obviously loved it.

After helping out a band I know who had a member ill, I went back again a couple of days later just to find old friends and join in a few sessions.

Of course, we can hanker for the days when Whitby was the warm up for Stainsby but today's festival is still good fun, either way.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: stallion
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 03:38 AM

Good Lord, somethings never change, good to see the bickering is still going on children.
So, what happened to the Endeavour on Thursday night? Nice little singalong but the "usual suspects" weren't there. Looked around for the "comforters" on the floor but couldn't see any. Any, tidy up kids, spit spot.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Les from Hull
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 10:47 AM

Endeavour has recently changed hands (twice) so we hadn't got the same arrangements. Maybe next year.

We remember what a smashing time we had last time, thanks to you and the lads. We will be doing the singarounds at Hull Folk Festival on 12-14 Sept.

Maggie and Les (the Usual Suspects)


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Soldier boy
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 10:54 AM

Another brilliant festival as usual. What made it extra special for me this year was finding 'The Star' pub which is on a little street that runs passed the back of The Ship Inn, just back from the harbour on the opposite side from the Abbey. This pub is now run by John and his wife and very quickly became the place to be for the best singaround sessions in Whitby. Everyone was made to feel very welcome indeed and with all beers (including three real ales in tip-top condition!)priced at just £2.50 a pint you really couldn't go wrong. It will definately be my first port of call next year. Thank you John for doing such an excellent job as host and organiser and I hope your new venture goes from strength to strength, you deserve it.
I would encourage everyone to head for The Star on any visit to Whitby and I'm sure you won't be disappointed; it really is 'a star'!

Chris


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 10:54 AM

Hull Folk Festival - what's that Les?

First I have heard of it!

Perhaps someone should start a thread?


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Acorn4
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 01:20 PM

I must endorse the excellent comments about The Star. The morning story/poetry sessions there were also very good as well as the singarounds. Only problem is as with all popular venues you have to get in early to get a seat.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,cujimmy
Date: 24 Aug 14 - 02:23 PM

Yes The Star pub was excellent with good music, good people and good ale at a reasonable price. Regular folk music is being planned throughout the year at The Star as well. I also enjoyed good sessions in The Fleece and Middle Earth too, had a very enjoyable time -


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Jerry
Date: 25 Aug 14 - 06:10 AM

I had a great time all week, wonder what a 2 week festival would feel like, would I last the course, im always wish I could stay longer.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Aug 14 - 07:18 AM

Hull Folk Festival is 12th to 14th September, based around the Minerva pub and the rest of the Old Town. Funding from Hull City Council came in rather later than we would have wished, but we are nonetheless extremely grateful. Yes Malcolm I'll start a thread but we've been waiting for the website to have enough details. Martin Simpson, Young Uns, New Rope String Band, singarounds, sessions, dancers, open mikes and lots more.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Les from Hull
Date: 25 Aug 14 - 07:25 AM

Sorry, 'twas me above, escaped biscuit.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 25 Aug 14 - 08:18 AM

The Hull Folk Archive Exhibition will be upstairs in Thieving Harry's on the corner of Humber Dock Street and Humber Street.

The Historic Boats (Keels/Sloops etc.) will be on display in the Marina on Humber Dock St side. Unfortunately no public allowed on board as we couldn't afford the insurance and all the street furniture safety stuff the Council insist on. Maybe next year. No stages on board either for same reason.

Free Maritime Concert 2-4 Sunday 14th in Maritime Museum main gallery.
Beggar's Bridge, Hissyfit, Spare Hands etc.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Aug 14 - 08:52 AM

Here's the website
http://www.hull-folk.co.uk/


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,John Foxen
Date: 25 Aug 14 - 10:05 AM

A splendid Whitby FF. A high point has to be the singarounds held by the indefatigable Mo & Joe where we heard many good songs and made a lot of friends. Another grat outing was the folk train. Thanks to all who organised that.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: Joe Nicholson
Date: 25 Aug 14 - 11:26 AM

Yes I enjoyed the Folk Train doing it for the first time. Made even better by winning the raffle prize which was two tickets for Bedworth Folk Festival so Mo and I are going for the first time. Looking forward to it.


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Subject: RE: whitby FF 2014
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 25 Aug 14 - 02:07 PM

The Folk Train was started some years ago by myself and my good lady Wombat when we suggested to about 20 friends that we decamp in order to avoid the chaotic Sunday when Regatta and Folk Week Clashed. These two events combined with the normal surge in tourism in August made singing in the pubs nigh on impossible. Arriving at the station we were amazed to see about 50 people, most of whom we didn't know, waiting to board the train. The first two years were spent at the Moon and Sixpence (formerly the Anglers Rest) but when that closed we approached the then licensee of the Arncliffe Arms which had just reopened. The rest, as is said, is history. This years afternoon was blessed as always with a wide variety of performers with an equally wide variety of material and made for a great afternoon AND we raised £157 for the Runswick Bay Rescue Boat. On a personal note I was really pleased that Joe and Mo won the tickets for Bedworth Festival I hope they have a great time down there ... and Thanks to Malcolm Gurnham once again for being kind enough to donate two tickets.


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