Subject: RE: Halloween Songs From: Bat Goddess Date: 28 Sep 01 - 12:15 PM Ooh, Kendall! Thanks for reminding me! "Mistletoe Bough" is probably one of the most sad/scary beautifully morbid songs I know. Been meaning to learn it for years (from Joan's LP) but not sure if I'll ever have occasion to sing it in public, so others seem to take priority. Bat Goddess |
Subject: RE: Halloween Songs From: Greyeyes Date: 28 Sep 01 - 08:29 AM Gloredhel said "As a Roman Catholic, I object to the statement that All-Souls being celebrated close to Halloween is a coincidence." Anyway we all seem to be in broad agreement. And yes, what a great thread. |
Subject: RE: Halloween Songs From: Cllr Date: 28 Sep 01 - 08:19 AM Grey eyes I was disagreeing with Joe Offer He said "I don't know if I'd say the establishment of the feasts of All Saints and All Souls (and Christmas, for that matter) were deliberate moves to replace pagan celebrations" I replied ... in the eighth century All Hallows' day was moved to November the first to counteract Pagan celebrations held on that date..." As such it is fairly obvious, to me at least, that there is deliberate positioning of the festival dates. And as this was the main thrust of Gloredhel's post I agree with her as well. Cllr Ilove halloween parties for whatever the reason! |
Subject: RE: Halloween Songs From: Greyeyes Date: 28 Sep 01 - 07:19 AM I don't dispute that Allhallows Day was placed on 1st Nov deliberately to counteract pagan celebrations, it is the placing of All Souls day on 2nd Nov that the references above suggest were coincidental. |
Subject: RE: Halloween Songs From: Cllr Date: 28 Sep 01 - 05:10 AM What a great thread. I have to agree, gloredhel. Sorry, Joe, but I think you're wrong on this one. "Like Christmas and Easter, the festival of Hallowe'en originated in Pagan celebration. Even though its name derives from the Christian festival of All Hallows or All Saints Day... in the eighth century All Hallows' Day was moved to November the first to counteract Pagan celebrations held on that date." For example, the timing of Christmas was due to a pagan festival previously a bonfire to encourage the Sun to return in the depths of winter, and because it's difficult to make the serfs give up their holidays (Holy days) they just wacked in a different meaning while allowing the serfs their time off while weaning them away to the new religion. As far as Halloween celebration (I'm drawing a distinction between recent customs over the last two hundred years and its origins many centuries ago) goes, the Irish have always been big on it and the American version of celebrating the modern Halloween comes from these Irish origins, while in England we are following on (commercially at least) from you merkins. Don't forget, one of the reasons we don't celebrate individual days as much as the Americans is that we have on average four to five weeks' holiday a year and you lot seem to get far less. Sadie Damascus was asking about Reynardine usually boxing day in the UK is a day for the big hunt more Christmas than Halloween. Robb Johnson has written one (on his Album "Maggie Thatcher- My part in her downfall" irregular records) called Boxing Day with the chorus:
"And it feels like winter, John P say Hello to William and Felicia for me, I booked them last year as my last guests at the folk club I was running (Uxbridge) before I left. It was on my birthday and it was a fantastic night. And finally Halloween songs The whole Album of the king of elfland's daughter (with Christopher Lee and Derek Brimestone on it) Cllr
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Subject: RE: Halloween Songs From: Greyeyes Date: 28 Sep 01 - 03:48 AM "Greyeyes needs to go back to blue-clicky school. Instructions in the FAQ" Harsh but fair, Joe. It had been a long day, the caretaker was trying to lock up and throw me out, and the server was on the blink. More haste less speed I think. Thanks for fixing the link. Gloredhel, the statement that the placing of All Souls Day was a coincidence was my reading of the story related in Brewer's Phrase and Fable, (see link above). If you follow This link The Columbia Encyclopedia states that the celebrations and customs associated with All Souls Day were a completely separate development from Halloween. |
Subject: RE: Halloween Songs From: John P Date: 28 Sep 01 - 01:57 AM Oh Boy, we get to play a Halloween concert this year with our friends William Pint and Felicia Dale. We'll probably do--
Death and the Lady, There's lots of good stuff for this holiday. I think William and Felicia used to do--
Mr. Fox, John Peekstok |
Subject: RE: Halloween Songs From: Joe Offer Date: 27 Sep 01 - 09:11 PM I don't know if I'd say the establishment of the feasts of All Saints and All Souls (and Christmas, for that matter) were deliberate moves to replace pagan celebrations. These celebrations came from local churches, and quite obviously grew from pagan feasts that were part of local tradition. The celebrations grew in popularity as centuries went on, and were eventually accepted by the church as official. By the time they became "official," the pagan roots of the feasts had long been forgotten. It seems to have been a process of natural growth (folk process???), not establishing something to replace an older tradition. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: Gloredhel Date: 27 Sep 01 - 08:36 PM As a Roman Catholic, I object to the statement that All-Souls being celebrated close to Halloween is a coincidence. First, the word Halloween is All-Hallow's Eve, or the eve of All Saints Day, Nov. 1st. Second, for All Saints and All Souls Days to be placed together makes sense. These two being placed close to the Celtic celebration of the dead at Samhain was a deliberate part on the move of the Catholic Church to replace the pagan celebrations with their own rituals. |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: Greyeyes Date: 27 Sep 01 - 03:03 PM I meant to say here is an interesting article about souling. Greyeyes needs to go back to blue-clicky school. Instructions in the FAQ. -Joe Offer |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: Greyeyes Date: 27 Sep 01 - 02:48 PM Halloween, Oct.31st, is of course the eve of All Saints Day, Nov 1st. All Souls Day was Nov 2nd, but the souling songs and plays were often performed on All Souls Eve, or the evening of Nov 1st. To further confuse matters many of the songs and customs predate christianity anyway and are more to do with Samhain, the pagan festival which took place around the beginning of November. According to Brewer it is coincidental that the Catholic church holds All Souls day so close to Halloween, Click here here is an interesting article about souling. |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: VoxFox Date: 27 Sep 01 - 01:24 PM Just jumping in with a ditty my father played on the piano called "Spooky Takes a Holiday", I don't know any more about it or if there are words or not but it used to make me giggle when he played it so rousingly on a dark and rainy night.Sadly he's gone but the song lingers on....VF |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: John J Date: 27 Sep 01 - 12:53 PM Check out any Souling Plays that are performed in your area, Souling Plays are performed at All Souls, which is immediately AFTER Halloween. John |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: IanC Date: 27 Sep 01 - 11:35 AM GreyEyes Thanks. Traditionally, in parts of England, Halloween was another carolling day, with a souling song (begging song) used to accompany visits to local houses. See the other thread here.
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Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: Jack the Sailor Date: 27 Sep 01 - 11:21 AM "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" had a piece called "Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding. John Fogerty's second solo album had some good spooky stuff. "Spiders and Snakes"--Jim Stafford. |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: Greyeyes Date: 27 Sep 01 - 09:12 AM It is not entirely true that Halloween is not celebrated in England. Trick or Treating has become more popular in recent years, but in my childhood, (early seventies), we always had a Halloween party, with special food and games, particularly bobbing for apples. It is sad to see the English way of celebrating these old festivals gradually dying out and being replaced by American style activities, but that's globalisation at work. Guy Fawkes night is not a big event in the calendar of English Catholics. Bit of a non-musical diversion: I went to a boarding school in Devon called Allhallows, which not surprisingly was pretty big on Halloween. In the C19, before the school moved there, a cargo ship laden with marble was wrecked on Halloween on the coast below the cliffs on which the school perched. The master of the big house later gained salvage rights to the ship and its cargo and built a great marble staircase in the house. The ghost of the ship's captain was said to walk up the cliff path into the house every year on Allhallow's Eve. The 6th form boys used to collect sacks of seaweed from the beach every year and at dead of night spread it in the entrance to what we called the Main School, along the corridor and up the marble staircase. The trail disappeared outside the Headmaster's study on the upstairs corridor. It was all very Harry Potter looking back on it.
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Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: Stewart Date: 26 Sep 01 - 07:14 PM My choice - THE GREEN LADY. Cheers, S. in Seattle |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: kendall Date: 26 Sep 01 - 06:44 PM Lost Jimmy Whalen/Whelan, sung by Joan Sprung on Folk Legacy records. She also sings a very spooky one called The Mistletoe Bough. |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: GUEST,California Ghoul Date: 12 Sep 01 - 01:23 AM Gotta re-mention "With 'Er 'Ead Tucked Underneath 'Er Arm (Anne Boleyn"), "Witchy Woman," "Monster Mash," "Dry Bones," and "Spooky."
How about "Thriller"?
Then there's the old camp song,
Did you ever think when the hearse goes by |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: ard mhacha Date: 10 Sep 01 - 10:56 AM Murray, The tradition of men dressing up as women in Ireland on Halloween was also part of the many rituals connected with the festival. Slan Ard Mhacha. |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: LR Mole Date: 10 Sep 01 - 09:40 AM Roy Buchanan (RIP) did a nice almost-rockabilly version of "Haunted House" on his first album. Todd Rundgren does one song called "Wolfman Jack", about the legendary DJ, on "Something/Anything", as well as a creepy one called "Black Maria". Ry Cooder's version of "One Meat Ball" on his first album gives me the willies (don't know why, really). And speaking of "Oh, Death", you could probably get a whole tape off the Harry Smith Anthology. I wouldn't stay at your house that night, though. |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: Murray MacLeod Date: 10 Sep 01 - 09:14 AM Halloween is a really big deal here, although we celebrated it in Scotland when I was a kid, but nothing like to the same extent as in the US. It appears to be be kind of traditional here for men to dress up in women's clothing for Halloween parties, a custom with which I have reluctantly complied for the last couple of years. This year, I plan to go as Dolly Parton. Songs to be performed will include will include "I Enjoy Being a Girl" from "South Pacific" and "W.O.M.A.N" by Peggy Lee. Murray |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: ard mhacha Date: 10 Sep 01 - 09:05 AM Halloween, the Eve of All Saints is not celebrated in England, it is celebrated in Ireland and of course the US, in all my years working in England I never heard it mentioned. In England, Guy Fawkes Day on the 5th of November was celebrated in a similar fashion. The big question is why is it so big in the US, curious to know which ethnic group was responsible for introducing it. Slan Ard Mhacha. |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: The Walrus at work Date: 10 Sep 01 - 08:30 AM I've been beaten to "Zombie Jamboree". Would "The Devil and the Feathery Wife" count? Walrus |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: GUEST,Vampira Date: 10 Sep 01 - 04:35 AM I looked up this old thread for ideas for this Halloween, and I noticed no one had mentioned: There's also a ghost mentioned in "If You Could Read My Mind." And how about "The Farmer's Curst Wife"? any more? |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: sadie damascus Date: 06 Jan 01 - 05:12 AM Does anyone have more songs about Mr. Fox (Reynardine) or Foxy? |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: GUEST,BeauDangles Date: 19 Oct 00 - 01:51 PM Hey Chris, Great list of spooky songs. I just remembered two more the other day: Season of the Witch (Donovan) & Clap for the Wolfman (The Guess Who). Gosh, I love Halloween! BeauD |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: radriano Date: 18 Oct 00 - 06:45 PM Here's a few I like: Sir Aldingar Mr. Fox The Ghostly Crew The Holland Handkerchief Long Lankin Robber Bridegroom The Two Magicians |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: SDShad Date: 18 Oct 00 - 04:04 PM As I turn to revising my Halloween mix for this year, I'll be walking away from this thread with some new ideas, and will throw in a few from my extant mix:
I'm thinking of adding a number of those mentioned above (esp. "Skeletons In My Closet" (the actual title of "48 Years") which I never would've thought of, even though I once thought of learning it--thanks, Grab!, never thought I'd see it mentioned on the 'Cat!), plus Grieg's "In the Hall of the Mountain King." Chris |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 03 Oct 00 - 02:32 PM Possibility: Call retirement homes and nursing homes--the biggest ones you can find first--and talk to the activities director. Offer a show, and ask if there is a budget for such. Some of them do pay. Not big money, but a dollar is a dollar most any old time. Dave Oesterreich |
Subject: Lyr Add: HAUNTED HOUSE (Jumpin' Gene Simmons) From: GUEST Date: 03 Oct 00 - 01:50 PM HAUNTED HOUSE As recorded by Jumpin' Gene Simmons, 1964. I just moved in my new house today. Movin' was hard but I got squared away. Bells started ringin' and chains rattled loud. I knew I'd moved in a haunted house. Still, I made up in my mind to stay. Nothin' was a-goin' to drive me away. When I seen somethin' that give me the creeps, Had one big eye and-a two big feet. I stood right still and I did the freeze. He did the stroll right up to me, Made a noise with his feet that sound like a drum, Say, "You'll be here when the mornin' come." Say, "Yes, I'll be here when the mornin' comes. I'll be right here and I ain't gonna run. I bought this house; now, you know I'm boss. Ain't no haint gonna run me off." In my kitchen, my stove was a-blazin' hot Coffee was a-boilin' in the pot. The grease had melted in my pan. I had a hunk o' meat in my hand. From out of space there sat a man On the hot stove with the pots and pans. "Say, that's hot," I began to shout. He drank the hot coffee right from the spout. He ate the raw meat right from my hand, Drank the hot grease from the fryin' pan. He said to me, "Now, you better run, And don't be here when the mornin' comes." Say, "Yes, I'll be here when the mornin' comes. I'll be right here and I ain't gonna run. I bought this house; now you know I'm boss. Ain't no haint gonna run me off." WW |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: GUEST,Michael in Swansea Date: 03 Oct 00 - 04:02 AM Would "Mister Fox" fall into this category? It makes me feel chilly. It's in the DT Mike |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: hesperis Date: 02 Oct 00 - 11:19 PM Little Hawk does some amazing werewolf songs. Selina Kerr wrote a fantastic song called "In Death She Blooms" about her interpretation of Ophelia's death. I wrote the vocal part and arranged it, and it is really cool!
I love "Little Red Riding Hood" even though most people I know are sick of it. |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: Bill D Date: 02 Oct 00 - 11:08 PM "Oh Death" was done on a record by Nimrod Workman, also...great song!..(he was in maybe his 80s when he recorded it...sent chills up my spine) |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: Thomas the Rhymer Date: 02 Oct 00 - 11:02 PM 'Oh Death' is a charming little tune I associate with Dock Boggs... Macabre at its finest! |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: Bill D Date: 02 Oct 00 - 10:53 PM I learned Mrs. Ravoon from a Folk-Legacy recording of Harry Tufts many years ago....it has sort of become associated with me locally...*sigh*...I had to begin saying "ONLY at Halloween" a REALLY weird little thing that fits at Halloween is "On the Amazon" by Don McLean |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: Musicman Date: 02 Oct 00 - 10:36 PM Many years ago, I recieved a Halloween card from my mom..... On the front were these words: "Halloween is becoming a forgotten holiday. We dedicated followers of the Great Pumpkin must do something to rekindle the Halloween spirit. Let us not rest until the universe resounds with PUMPKIN CAROLS". You may find the words to "The Peanuts Book of Pumpkin Carols" here (hope this works) enjoy........ musicman |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: Susan of DT Date: 02 Oct 00 - 08:35 PM See @myth for a variety of ghosts, devils, mythical beasties, etc |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: bflat Date: 02 Oct 00 - 06:44 PM Singer/songwriter Richard Schindell has a contemporary breakup song for Halloween on his Sparrows Point CD i.e., "Are You Happy Now?" You can listen to a clip from his website www.richardschindell.com (I think that's it) if you want the flavor of the song. Art imitating life! bflat |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: GUEST,BeauDangles Date: 02 Oct 00 - 06:23 PM Hmmm, I seem to have lost my cookie. Well, that's the way it crumbles I guess. I just remembered another cool Halloween Song. Moon over Bourbon Street, by Sting. BeauD |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: Margaret V Date: 27 Sep 00 - 10:13 PM How about "Miss Bailey's Ghost?" [=The Unfortunate Miss Bailey?] I sing the version done by Mick Hanly. Margaret |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: richlmo Date: 27 Sep 00 - 10:09 PM "Long Black Veil" -Trad., "Miss Ghost"- Don Henley "Brown Mountain Light" -Tommy Faile, "I Put a Spell on You" - John Fogarty - probably my favorite. Does anyone listen to John Boy and Billy? Pumpkin Head Harvey. My kids loved it, we heard it almost every day going to school, before Halloween. |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: GUEST,kendall Date: 27 Sep 00 - 02:50 PM I play it with the capo at the 3rd fret. Positions are. Am Em Am Em Am. C Em Am G Am.chorus C Em C G Am. If you want a copy of theis, buy Biginners Luck!!
There is a song we used to sing at Halloween called Jack o Lantern
Jack O lantern burns his candle
Owls upon the waving tree tops hoot through the windy night |
Subject: Lyr Add: MRS. RAVOON^^^ From: Naemanson Date: 27 Sep 00 - 02:36 PM Try this one. I learned it from a recording of a radio interview with Kendall a local folk show I think hosted by Anne Dodson. He performed it accompanied himself with guitar. Kendall, what are the chords? MRS. RAVOON
I climbed the clock tower 'neath the noonday sun;
Mrs. Ravoon, Mrs. Ravoon,
I stole through the dungeon whilst everyone slept
I stood by the water, so green and thick,
I pulled in my line and I took my first look
I went to an amateur butcher I know
I ran through the marsh 'midst the lightning and thunder, Old English rhyme set to music by Tom Mastin. |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: Lonesome EJ Date: 27 Sep 00 - 12:54 PM Yeah, Gary T! "Haunted House" is a terrific tune...
"I bought this house now you know I'm bound
It also had another line, like "He drank the hot grease from the fryin' pan |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: GUEST,Russ Date: 27 Sep 00 - 11:59 AM Don't forget: Lyke Wake Dirge (Pentangle) Reynardine (Fairport Convention) Hemlocks and Primroses (Justice & Hawker) |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: rabbitrunning Date: 27 Sep 00 - 01:41 AM Beau, try here for Little red riding hood. |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: rabbitrunning Date: 27 Sep 00 - 01:36 AM Oh, yeah! Loved Little Red Riding Hood when I was a kid.
When I was a kid I learned a little halloween song, but I don't remember all the words. Anyone get this one in school?
Hallowee-ee-een the witch is riding high |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: BeauDangles Date: 26 Sep 00 - 12:37 PM Ooh! Peg, nice choices there! Esp. Loreena McKennitt. Another one just occurred to me. I can't remember who did it, but I think it is called....
Hey there Li'l Red Riding Hood, |
Subject: RE: BS: Halloween Songs From: Grab Date: 26 Sep 00 - 12:34 PM A good one which probably no-one knows is "48 years", by Alastair Sanger (aka the Fat Man), written for the computer game "7th Guest". A lovely bit of piano in it, and _incredibly_ spooky - sends shivers down your back. I think there's an MP3 of it on http://www.fatman.com/listen.htm Grab. |
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