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Subject: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: GospelPicker (inactive)
Date: 25 Sep 00 - 10:14 PM

TO MY FELLOW MUDCATTERS:

Some of you have met me and some have read my posts... The recent ones I have posted were rather harsh and cold. Being a minister does not leave me immune to emotional and personal struggles... In fact, any minister worth his salt will tell you that the struggle gets harder as you go furthur along, becoming more the man or woman God wants you to be day by day. I spoke very harshly about people "stealing songs"... I was and still am in the middle of a great crisis of choice in my life... God blessed me with the ability to sing and play and to preach His Word, but He also instilled in me a love for wandering and being a musical missionary. My days lately are filled with the struggle to allow God to reign in my life in this area while remaining faithful to do the work He has already given me, while keeping my sometimes-obsessive self away from all the old skeleton temptations that come my way from my old life as a drunkard and abuser of "social" drugs like ciggies, etc.

Please accept my sincere apology for not speaking in these posts in a way that honors God and my commitment to Him... I was not acting in the name of Christ but in the name of a very frustrated human... If it is your bag, please pray for me. If not, please offer good thoughts on my behalf in whatever way you deem right. If I am to make it through this time in my life, it will be because God is loving and perfect and the good saints here on Earth are interceding for me. God Bless you all... I truly am sorry.

Steve

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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: Kara
Date: 25 Sep 00 - 10:18 PM

May be you should be posting to God, does he read the Mudcatts


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: CarolC
Date: 25 Sep 00 - 10:29 PM

Well, GospelPicker,

I have not read any of the posts that you mention, but I do wish you the best of luck.

Carol


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: M.Ted
Date: 25 Sep 00 - 11:01 PM

Generally, the way people do things around here, it is only necessary to post an appology to the thread where you caused the problem--even still, it is not necessary to appologize for an honest opinion, honestly stated, unless it has been misunderstood, and there have been hurt feelings.

Sounds like you need something more here--if I may be so bold, I am guessing that you really want to be a travel and perform music, rather than "preach", and you feel terriblly torn--

Let me help you out--God didn't and doesn't make life choices for us. We make choices for ourselves, and we make decisions for ourselves. That is the way it works--if we were always sure about what God wants, it would be impossible for us make choices--

There is a saying, "Many are called, but few are chosen" and it has always seemed to me that it means that there is a great difference between wanting to do something, and being able to do it, and being successful at it.

If you are seriously torn about whether you should preach--then you probably should not preach, even if you "can" do it. The demands of that life are so intense that a person who is not totally confident about their commitment will not be able to withstand the strain for very long without cracking. the worst part is that the people who have trusted and depended on this person are hurt,

If you don't believe me, ask others in your faith--I can assure you, you will hear a lot of unpleasant stories--and sympathies don't tend to lean toward the faltering minister, either.

I can appreciate your pain--many people regard a ministry as the highest calling of all, and to feel yourself pulled away from it must be very difficult. However, don't continue if your heart is not in it, because you will only end up hurting yourself, and others.


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: Amos
Date: 25 Sep 00 - 11:26 PM

You'll raise more hearts singing than preaching, 'Pick'. When I start preaching, anyway, they leave significantly faster than when I start singing! :>))

A


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: ddw
Date: 25 Sep 00 - 11:27 PM

Sounds to me like the same dilemma faced by (Little) Richard Penniman (Sp?) and Tommy Collins (of Merle Haggard's song Leonard). Both tried preaching and both went back to their musical roots. There are lots of ways to do good works.

david


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: GospelPicker (inactive)
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 12:05 AM

DDW, thanks for the support... All of you, thank you VERY much...

I will ponder all these thoughts... keep me in yours.

GospelPicker

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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 04:34 AM

Well, GospelPicker, it's good to preach the Gospel, and it's good to live life. I do both, mostly at the same time. I find that living life as it should be lived is the best way to preach the Gospel - and music is a big part of that for me. I spent 8 years in seminary, but decided to do other things, and it has been a good life for me.
I wish you the best.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: Quincy
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 06:42 AM

Steve,
I myself am a Christian and I find that if I let Him, God shows me the way I should go. A lecturer at University asked me what I wanted to do next and I told him that I didn't know but I will be where God wanted me to be....God opens doors and closes doors. My lecturer told me that perhaps sometimes I needed to "push" the doors open. My response was "but sometimes the doors are locked!"
While you're struggling at the moment with what to do, maybe you should stop and listen and the opportunities given to you may be God's direction for you.
I am grateful that there is someone guiding my life for me....it hasn't been an easy life so far (and I'm only 32!!) but to keep in mind the text "All things work together for good to them who love God" has kept me going! That doesn't mean that I cope with anything better than someone without a faith cos I'm still human and have all the same feelings and emotions. I've made bad choices and decisions but the knowledge that God accepts me for the person I am, gives me real comfort.

Steve, the ability to play music is a God-given gift and it is also a powerful ministry, think of it as a "different type" of preaching His word...still giving Him glory.

As you've requested, will pray for you.
Hopefully your apology has helped you as you must have felt it an important thing to do....
May you find inner peace, Yvonne.


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 07:22 AM

Chin up and soldier on mate! Yours,Aye. Dave ><+>


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 10:35 AM

Steve,

Many of us struggled to find the voice best used at Mudcat, too... give yourself the time and permission to come among us as your true self, and trust that there are open hearts here to welcome you.

Now as far as your struggle... gee, I am having a music struggle too, it's that I lack a guitar player and songleading male singer to join what we do each week on Saturday evening. Hey. If you are called to wander, PLEASE, wander the heck over here! Dinner is included! And a sleepover if you like, before the long drive back!

NOT KIDDING. Pray about it and see if you're my picker. OK? I been praying God would drop His choice in my lap. Feel like hopping in?

At least come on over and do an offertory for us! (You can ask MMario for a reference-- ask if he had a good time with us.)

~S~


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: Bert
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 11:07 AM

Hang in there Pick me ol' china. We can only strive to do the best we can.

If you decide on the wandering life remember that you have Mudcat friend all over the world. So look us up and sing for us.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: Kim C
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 11:15 AM

Steve, I look at sharing my gifts as a form of ministry, even though I don't read from the Bible or pray during a performance. Whether I am singing, or knitting, or just talking to a friend, those are gifts that I share with great joy. So while you may want to preach - think about doing it in a non-traditional sense. Share your gifts. :)


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: GospelPicker (inactive)
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 11:51 AM

WOW... I have never found a community of people who care as much as you all do... Christians and non-Christians alike...

Jesus once remarked that a pagan Roman soldier who asked Him in faith for a healing was a man that had more faith than only a few of His own Jewish people! God places people in our lives and we respond ultimately the way He plans it...

Sniff, sniff... Thank you all from the bottom of my heart... The load has been lightened because God has blessed you folks with hearts that can still care even in a calloused world like this one...

Shouting for JOY from the top of the Big Rock Candy Mountain,

GospelPicker

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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 12:08 PM

But are you coming over?????

~S~


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: WyoWoman
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 02:00 PM

Well, GP, maybe God is calling you to let go of your stereotype that only Christians are the caring people and that once people start being really caring souls, God will turn them into Christians. Some of the best people I've ever met weren't; some of the skunkiest people I've met are. And vice versa. Non-Christians pray for people and hold people they DON'T EVEN KNOW in the light of whatever faith and love they know, just as people here do for you. Open, loving hearts don't belong to any denomination or creed, and maybe you're being called by your Creator to step outside some of the limitations you're placing on the human soul, your own included.

The conclusion I came to on my long walk of spiritual doubt and wonder and enlargement was that at some level ALL theology boils down to arguments over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, or other such meaningless minutiae, as limited minds (ours) grapple with and try to articulate the Limitless. What matters is how we live on this Earth, what we do with our gifts, how much we can include and love unconditionally -- without requiring that others join our "club" -- and just how much joy and celebration we can bring to our own lives and the lives of those we touch. Personally, I believe that having fun, actually being human while we have a human body to be in, is a holy calling. Sort of like noticing the color purple.

Much evil is done in the name of serving Him, without caring about the lower-case hims and hers that populate our planet. Maybe, as Joe Offer indicates, looking a bit closer to home on the spiritual plane, can help us anchor ourselves in a daily life that illuminates us and those our lives touch.

WW


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Subject: God Digs Us
From: Max
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 02:03 PM

Hmmm, this got me thinking… Maybe God wants me to shut down the Mudcat and preach the Gospel instead…

If there is one thing I can say I know for certain about God, it's that God doesn't do things by accident. If anything could make God smile, it might as well be when we create. I think he gets a kick out of that.

GospelPicker, being a thoughtful man of God, I think you know all of what we're saying here. I think you know that you should not deny yourself the joy of picking. I think perhaps that your picking may be your most pure translation/reflection of God's voice.

Rev. Gary Davis never stopped playing, learning, teaching and preaching. He has moved me in ways that just-words never have. Not sure I ever would have heard his righteousness without that 12-string guitar.

As for your place here at the Mudcat? The Mudcat is like Life in that it is a mirror of you. It can be the most helpful and kind place in the world sometimes, and so can it be frustrating and pointless. It is what you make it… Do unto others my friend.

(all this from a Buddhist?)


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: catspaw49
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 02:06 PM

At the risk of being the village fool......wait, I am, why worry?...........Don't apologize GP for being human. Too many folks apologize for not being something we have no capability of being. I pretty much like the situation the way it is and I'm not looking for improvement. Relax.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: mousethief
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 02:18 PM

That's a point, Spaw, but I think it is a good thing to apologize for specific instances of oh-shit-what-did-I-do-that-for. People unable to admit they have been wrong are the ones that are not human enough, not people who can and do.

Just my $.02

Gospelpicker: Inasmuch as you have hurt me (which may be not at all), I forgive you. Hoping you'll do the same for me.

Alex
O..O
=o=


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: catspaw49
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 02:30 PM

Never having been wrong, I have no experience at it.

Spaw


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Subject: Lyr Add: IF JESUS WAS A PICKER (Rick Fielding) ^^
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 02:42 PM

You know, all this makes me wonder why nobody has ever posted the lyrics to Rick Fielding's "greatest hit":
IF JESUS WAS A PICKER
(Rick Fielding, himself)

Well, if Jesus was a picker in a country bluegrass band
With a quartet of the angels singing harmony so grand
He'd top the country hit parade with his very first release:
"Authentic Down-Home Gospel Songs of Everlasting Peace."

If you saw him at a festival, you might not be impressed
Just another long-haired city boy, no different from the rest.
But when he started picking, well, you'd know just what I meant
His talent was God-given, his technique was Heaven-sent.

And he picked "Billy in the Lowground" 'bout the best I'd ever seen
Gave Satan such a nightmare when he picked that "Devil's Dream."
I asked him how he got so good. He said, "All this shall be."
But no one could pick faster than the Man from Galilee.

Then Jesus said, "If you don't mind, well, I'll introduce the boys.
That's Moses on the five-string, showing such celestial poise.
Little David's on the harp; Lord, can that boy blow!
And Daddy's back there slapping the bass; taught me all I know.

Saint Peter's on the fiddle, Saint Paul's on the old dobro,
And the rest of my deciples run the sound and book the show.
That's Judas sitting in that tree he's just not one of us,
But he likes to count the money and we let him drive the bus." And he picked...

Well, I asked him if he practiced many hours every day.
He said, "You know my day-job's rough, with all them souls to save.
But I never have to slow the record down to get my licks;
When pickers reach the Pearly Gates, I grab a few new tricks."

He played all my bluegrass favorites; never dropped a note.
His pick was made of silver and his capo purest gold.
He said, "I'd like to see a few more heads like you at Mass.
If Pop would let me have my way, I'd fill the church with `grass." And he picked...

Then the band packed up to go, and Jesus raised his hand.
He said, "I've got more festivals to play throughout this land.
But, if you'd like to pick like this, it's not that hard, you see.
Don't mess with that guy Swaggart; my instruction book is free."

Well, he climbed aboard the holy bus, took the driver's seat,
Put on a pair of highway shades and said, "Someday we'll meet."
Well, I just stood there, staring, as the bus flew out of sight,
`Cause I knew that it had happened; I saw the light.
And he picked...
Amen.
This is fun, but it's not Fielding at his best...
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: M.Ted
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 02:48 PM

GP--Just noted that you are begging for a playable guitar in order to meet a performance committment--it looks like you have some thinking to do about committments in general--don't be fooled by these people who say "God will show me the way"--that is just their way of saying that they are examining the possibilities--not an excuse for sitting idle til something gets handed to them.

God won't choose for you, God won't make a commitment for you, and God won't keep the commitment for you--you've got to do it yourself--


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: catspaw49
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 02:50 PM

You'll post the rest later? A lot of these folks never heard Rick's "Lifelines" album and all you do is whet their appetite and then lay out this lame "post the rest later" crappola. Say you're sorry Joe, time to apologize.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: Quincy
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 02:53 PM

Well M.Ted....He's never let me down yet!


Joe....great lyrics.


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: Jeri
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 02:54 PM

Steve, I've been trying to think of something to say. I'm not religious, so I really can't approach the discussion from that angle - there are others better qualified. As far as you having been harsh with others, we all do that, and those of us who have any compassion at all eventually realize it and apologize. It's part of being a human - even a very good human.

Now, about the choice you have to make. Again, I'm not religious, but I would think if I were, I'd say God doesn't make us love something that would make the world a better place, and expect us to ignore that thing or deny our love. (That's pretty much what Joe and Max said earlier in this thread.) I'm not sure whether your choice is between music/preaching or staying in one place/traveling. Have you thought about how you could do both things you wanted to do, and not have to choose one over the other?


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 03:22 PM

Hey, Spaw, my typing fingers aren't cooperating today, so I let my scanner do the rest of the typing. The whole song is posted now.

GospelPicker, Praise and her husband make wonderful use of music in their church work (her husband is a pastor). I'm known at church as "that guy who sings," so I guess I must, too - but Praise really sounds good. She gave me a tape of some of their music. She sings up a storm and picks a mean autoharp, and their music has a very welcoming, comfortable tone to it. Her husband sings about like I do (he shouldn't quit his day job), but she could make money with her singing if she wanted to.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: John Hardly
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 03:26 PM

Hi GP, Here's $0.02 from a newcomer who's never heard you be harsh (but King David a protest singer??) Anyway I fall somewhere between M Ted and Quincy in the active/passive role of God. But I think that life, when looking forward is as Ted described--ain't nothin' did that I don't did. When looking back however, I can say--WOW the scrapes that I've been spared.

In the interest of pursuing the best choice we are often not very honest judges of our motives or our abilities. My good friend who taught seminary for 35 years is fond of telling the tale of a very earest student of his who "felt the call". After a year's struggle through his homiletics course my friend had to pull the student aside and point out that, no matter how "called" to preach he might feel, he was sure no one was "called" to listen.

Jeeeez I feel called to play my guitar but, in the hospital in my town, on a bulletin board on the 3rd floor nurses station there's this note;

"If patients do not respond to normal sedative, call John Hardly. He will play the guitar for them--it NEVER fails. Should you need to induce vomiting--he has offered to sing too."

Some dreams die hard. For you--have you called Praise yet?

John "Elmer" Hardly


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 05:17 PM

Well gosh Joe!!!! I gave you that tape, hmm, over a month ago and not a word of feedback, and now this????? Are you sure you listened to the right one? You got me mixed up with that bluegrass gospel one I gave ya?

(Oy, I'll send you some more!)

Believe me, Joe exaggerates, but he's all the way over on the west coast and he knows I can't reach him from here to tweak his ear most severely.

(Steve did e-mail me about coming over once to check us out, before Joe's post I hasten to say. It will be a two and a half to three hour drive each way each time he comes over! So let's go easy on him till I have him hooked! But Ah b'leev the LORD will speak to him MIGHTILY! And I will flutter my eyelashes! And my husband will speak to him of God's plan of love! YeeHAHHH!)

Steve! Where is this thing about needing a guitar? Huh?? Whassup? We have an old 12 string, do you want it or what? I think our daughter wanted a coupla bucks for it. Whenever. She is part of the music ministry so you can chat with her about it! Maybe you barter with her, maybe you can help her with something, she's just started college nearby!

*G*G*G*G*G*

Heh heh heh.... Musta been them choruses of Hey Jude I been mutterin' since Ah saw old Paul on the teevee t'other day! You know, lost causes an' all? Me ever gettin' a picker??

~S~


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: Dharmabum
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 06:19 PM

GP,You owe it to yourself to get over there & meet Susan & Greg. I've had the privilege of playing music with the both of them & the acoustics in their church will blow you away! Not to mention, they're probably two of the nicest folks you'd ever want to meet.

Now I'm probably one of the least religous souls out there,but I am one of the more spiritual,so take this for whatever you feel it's worth. Close your eyes,Clear your head,Pick up your guitar & open your mouth. The right thing will happen.

Ron.


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: wysiwyg
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 06:28 PM

Angel support!

~S~


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: WyoWoman
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 06:42 PM

And, by the way, GP, I also read in your posting that you used to be a "drunkard and abuser of social drugs like ciggies," and I wanted to address that just briefly. Having been pulled from a few fires and off the edges of a few precipices in my time, I understand the desire to "pay back" the force that delivered us. However, I don't know that the only acceptable currency is to be a minister in a church, or an evangelist or whatever. If that were the case, everyone in AA would need to be a preacher.

There are ways to pay the debt your soul feels in ways that free you and provide liberation for others ... Max was sort of kidding, but consider what a boon and a blessing the Mudcat is to all of us, and what would be lost if he decided he needed to quit and serve the Creator in some more traditional way. Maybe what you have to offer will be some combination of preaching and music, or maybe you'll make music so sublime people are drawn higher just listening. But I don't think that having been pulled out of the swamp means we have to suffer forever and ever Amen in order to pay back. Maybe being happy and fulfilled more than erases the deficit.

One thing I do try to be mindful of is my amazing situation as a successful, self-sufficient, relatively financially blessed, relatively personally fulfilled professional woman in 21st century North America. I know my life is FAR from perfect, and that I have much work to do personally, professionally, spiritually. But I also know that I occupy a very special place in human history and that few women in the world have a life or have had lives as free of pain and suffering as mine. I don't take that as a reason why I should find ways to suffer, in solidarity or some such, but as a reminder to be mindful and grateful and to celebrate as much as I can in their behalf as well as in my own.

WyoWoman, Charter Member of the Church of the Holy Eclectic and the Most Splendid Wow!


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: Mickey191
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 07:11 PM

Is it possible to get a copy of "If Jesus was a Picker" by Rick Fielding ? Was it really his biggest hit? Thank you.

Slainte Maithe.


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: M.Ted
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 07:15 PM

Well, Quincy, either you misunderstand me, or you will be in a completely unanticipated place when the final judgement comes;-)

I am simple bringing up an idea that has been important to Christian religious thought for at least a thousand years--and that is that is that it is our responsibility to make moral and ethical choices in our lives, it is not God's responsibility--and we receive either the consequences or the rewards, based on the choices we make in our own lives-

All of us have gotten breaks when we made mistakes, but you don't get a break if you keep making the same mistakes--


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: Quincy
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 07:46 PM

Well M.Ted...hopefully.....I'll be at His right side on that day *BG*
I totally agree with you that we have to choose for ourselves. Free-will is ours to use. Personally I feel that my conscience is God's way of helping me choose when it comes to the moral and ethical issues although ultimately it's up to me to act on it, and as you rightly say ....live with the consequences.
I'm very glad though, that when I do make bad choices and things go wrong, God doesn't give up on me! Good thing too cos I'm very stubborn and don't always listen!!!! He's been a good guide.

The hymn in Praise's thread puts it nicely...
Down in the human heart, crushed by the tempter,
Feelings lie buried that grace can restore.
Touched by a loving heart, wakened by kindness,
Chords that were broken will vibrate once more!


See, we are on the same wave-length really!!!!!

very best wishes, Yvonne


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 07:52 PM

Hi, Mickey191 - "Picker" is on Rick Fielding's Lifeline (click) album on the Folk-Legacy label.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: GUEST,Yum Yum
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 09:10 PM

GP. I don't think you have offended anyone but obviously you must have felt bad about something you said. Was it about folk stealing songs or tunes? 'Cos most new trad' ballads are set to an old (established) tune and it's the old story of 'Poetic Licence' or balladeer's licence. I was tempted to ask about John Cline's --- Jesus, the missing years! I don't supose now is a good time. Anyway we are all Mudcatters together, so, if we can't forgive and carry-on, what can we do ? (bar steal the odd song or two)

Yum Yum


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: rangeroger
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 10:35 PM

Praise,I'll play guitar and sing for you,but I'd have to be back in time to play at my church in Kellogg,Idaho on Sunday mornings.

rr


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: WyoWoman
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 10:43 PM

I'' play guitar and sing for you, but I pretty much know only 10 chords now, and sometimes have to slow down when I move my fingers from one chord to the other. But other than that ...

And, of course, I'd have to be back in time to feed my dog and cat in Colorado before too much after sundown.

But other than that ...

ww


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Subject: Lyr Add: PICKIN' TO BEAT THE DEVIL (Pure Prairie..
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 12:31 AM

I make my rounds of the country churches
Playing my guitar for free
My repertoire is one hundred nine
Songs to God's Glory

CHO : Now I'm pickin' to beat the Devil
And you know he's on my tail
But the Lord is in my fingers
And He won't let me fail

I found myself in a roadside barroom
Drinkin' my time away
Kentucky women and Tennessee whiskey
There's gonna be Hell to pay

A worn-out Chevy and a beat-up Martin
Is all I'll ever own
My worthless life is dedicated
To bringin' God's Children home

Now I'm pickin' to beat the Devil
And you know he's on my tail
But the Lord is in my fingers
And He won't let me fail

Fourteen songs and a temperance sermon
Is what a good meal buys
For a little extra there's a guitar solo -
"The Reward in the Sky"

Now I'm pickin' to beat the Devil
And you know he's on my tail
But the Lord is in my fingers
and He won't let me fail

- Pure Prairie League, "Pickin' to Beat the Devil" from Two Lane Highway

Good luck,friend!

LEJ


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 02:21 PM

rr, WW, come on over!

OK, who has the helicopter....

Really though-- I could stand any Mudcatter for a week, why don't you all just put north central PA on your vacation route and do one week's service with me? I don't see why not!

Max could run it as a second radio show each week, Mudcat church! Oy! Trubble I'm causing!

~S~


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Sep 00 - 08:44 PM

This is yet another test, which will be deleted.

IF JESUS WAS A PICKER
(Rick Fielding, himself)

Well, if Jesus was a picker in a country bluegrass band
With a quartet of the angels singing harmony so grand
He'd top the country hit parade with his very first release:
"Authentic Down-Home Gospel Songs of Everlasting Peace."

If you saw him at a festival, you might not be impressed
Just another long-haired city boy, no different from the rest.
But when he started picking, well, you'd know just what I meant
His talent was God-given, his technique was Heaven-sent.

And he picked "Billy in the Lowground" 'bout the best I'd ever seen
Gave Satan such a nightmare when he picked that "Devil's Dream."
I asked him how he got so good. He said, "All this shall be."
But no one could pick faster than the Man from Galilee.

Then Jesus said, "If you don't mind, well, I'll introduce the boys.
That's Moses on the five-string, showing such celestial poise.
Little David's on the harp; Lord, can that boy blow!
And Daddy's back there slapping the bass; taught me all I know.

Saint Peter's on the fiddle, Saint Paul's on the old dobro,
And the rest of my deciples run the sound and book the show.
That's Judas sitting in that tree he's just not one of us,
But he likes to count the money and we let him drive the bus." And he picked...

Well, I asked him if he practiced many hours every day.
He said, "You know my day-job's rough, with all them souls to save.
But I never have to slow the record down to get my licks;
When pickers reach the Pearly Gates, I grab a few new tricks."

He played all my bluegrass favorites; never dropped a note.
His pick was made of silver and his capo purest gold.
He said, "I'd like to see a few more heads like you at Mass.
If Pop would let me have my way, I'd fill the church with `grass." And he picked...

Then the band packed up to go, and Jesus raised his hand.
He said, "I've got more festivals to play throughout this land.
But, if you'd like to pick like this, it's not that hard, you see.
Don't mess with that guy Swaggart; my instruction book is free."

Well, he climbed aboard the holy bus, took the driver's seat,
Put on a pair of highway shades and said, "Someday we'll meet."
Well, I just stood there, staring, as the bus flew out of sight,
`Cause I knew that it had happened; I saw the light.
And he picked...
Amen.


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: WyoWoman
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 12:50 AM

I think the Mudcat Leer Jet is a great idea. Catspaw, Head Leerer, could be the pilot.

Bill Sables could sure use it on his Mudcat World Domination Tour, Part Deux

we need to make sure Max gets THIS suggestion ...

ww


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: BlueJay
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 02:57 AM

WyoWoman, you're still too modest regarding your guitar playing abilities, especially when coupled with your voice. It's the overall performance that really counts. I'd give my remaining eye tooth to be able to put a song across like you can. And if I could write like you do, I probably wouldn't have to be a nurse.

Praise- Whoa, there. What a thought, with regular visiting Mudcatters and all. Sounds like that could turn into sort of a permanent "Allan and Bill's Great Mudcat Adventure"! Very, very tempting.

Mr. Gospel Preacher Picker Friend, there are many words of wisdom in this thread. I don't know if you're torn between the cloth and the steel string or not. I do know that a lot of people successfully cram a lot of activity into their lives, and if, (and only if), it is pretty much on their terms live happy, stress-free lives. A fellow where I live does music, Pastors a church, and still finds time to be an electrician. (Of course, most rural Preachers are way underpaid, so the electrician bit may not be a real passion).

GP, follow your heart. Forget the apology- the Mudcat Cafe seems to be a most forgiving place. And thank you for starting this most fascinating thread! Thanks, BlueJay


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 10:14 AM

Is it considered trolling and bad to hijack a thread to find guitar players and houseguest? Cuz now I want BlueJay to COME ON DOWN or up or from where e-er you be....

LEER jet, so funny, LOL WW! Fuel it up! Pay with yodelbucks!

~S~


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: GUEST,Mbo_at_ECU
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 10:16 AM

Sooz, don't forget about the Mudcat Youth bus, the one that we rock in so much that it falls over!


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: sophocleese
Date: 28 Sep 00 - 10:30 AM

I was at a festival three years ago talking and laughing with a friend. This attracted the notice of another man who wandered up to us and told us this joke:

How do you make God laugh?

Tell him your plans.

Peace, laughter and good picking GP, Sophocleese


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Subject: RE: Help: I WANT TO APOLOGIZE...
From: Hollowfox
Date: 30 Sep 00 - 12:48 PM

Gospel Picker, I can't give you any advice about your career choices, but I hope you'll end up where you'll help the most people. As for sin/forgiveness and regrets for things we can't call back, a little story: Long, long ago a Roman centurion asked one of the early Christian fathers how God could forgive sin. The father asked the centurion, "If you had a (small) rip in your cloak, would you throw it away?" The centurion replied that he would not, he would have it mended. "Ah," said the father, "So it is with God." (All this is half remembered from "Desert Wisdom: Sayings from the Desert Fathers" (Doubleday, 1982), a collection of Very Early Christian stories that you might enjoy.) Be well.


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