Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 03:56 PM

2257) MARCH OF THE CAMERON MEN - midi by John In brisbane sent to alan, NWC to dickG

also sent to alan - GING GANG GOOLI; SHOW ME THE WAY TO GO HOME

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 12:11 PM

219) THE BALLAD OF TIM EVANS - Midi from J_I_B sent to Alan, NWC to DickG

996) EL SALVADOR - midi from J_i_B sent to Alan, NWC to DickG

files updated

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 11:30 AM

jon - I suspect you will get no objections to them being posted here.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 25 Oct 00 - 11:18 AM

I was debating whether to start a new thread as these are corrupt MIDIs in the DT rather than missing ones that I have tried to straighten out for people.

The Old Dun Cow
Frankie Silvers

Jon

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 24 Oct 00 - 05:10 PM

159) AUTOMATION - to the tune "Fascination" - gif found by John in Brisbane, NWC file sent to DickG, midi to Alan

1566) HOME BY BE/ARNA - mid from John in Brisbane - sent to alan

294) BEAUTIFUL ISLE OF SOMEWHERE- midi from John in brisbane sent to Alan, NWC file to DickG

files updated

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 23 Oct 00 - 05:27 PM

33) AIN'T IT GREAT TO BE CRAZY - found by John-in-brisbane; NWC file sent to DickG

JOhn - I got the big one. Not sure about the smaller. I have a two meg limit on recieving - but normally can clear it within a day (or overnight from your viewpoint)

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 07:46 PM

MMario,

Sent you a couple of big emails with attachments of 1.3 and 0.7 Megs. Before I send anymore I'd better make sure I haven't clogged up your inbox. Regards, John

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 07:20 PM

Alice, you had my interest there for a while as I was looking at the score for Miss Fogerty's only last week. I'm glad MMario stepped in or I'd have gone back to find it.

I've been promising for ages to do a MIDI for The Agricultural Irish Girl, so would appreciate please if someone else could volunteer. There is a separate thread on the subject and a high quality image was refernced by Dale Rose.

I found the reference that 'Wheel of Fortune' had been posted.

Regards, John

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 12:52 PM

Miss Fogerty's has been "found". I can send a list of those still "missing" to anyone who would like to PM me an e-mail address.

MMario

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 12:44 PM

Alice - you can list them here or PM me. I didn't see them on MMario's list, but then my list is quite long and quite old. I can easily make a melody midi from sheet music.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: Alice
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 11:46 AM

I should have worded my message more clearly. I have a recording of Agricutural Irish Girl, but I can't make a midi. I can make an MP3 - who can make a midi if I send them an MP3? I'm not good enough at writing abc to do a version.

Also, in going through Christmas songs in the DT last night, I found that Mrs. Fogarty's Christmas Cake is missing the tune. The sheet music for Mrs. Fogarty's Christmas Cake is in the Lester Levy collection website. There are some other Christmas carols without tunes in the DT, also. Where should I list those tune requests? Here, or in separate threads?

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 22 Oct 00 - 03:22 AM

MM, I gather that someone has found tune to 'Wheel of Fortune'? I couldn't find a ref to it. Regards, John

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 12:22 PM

Alice - miditxt or abc can be posted here, or a link here and the tune posted to the agricultural irish girl thread. a midi can be sent to alan of oz.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: Alice
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 12:00 PM

I have a recording of the Agricultural Irish Girl. How can I get something to you in a form for the DT?

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 10:25 AM

MMario, I'll send you some GIFts. Regards, John

Subject: I Made A Hundred In The Backyard At Mum's
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 10:03 AM

Likewise posted to the mainthread tonight.

X:1 T:I Made One Hundred In The Back Yard At Mum's
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=120
K:E
B|GGGG GEE2|DDDE F2zA|
A2AA AGFF|EE2F G2zB|
BBBB BGzG|A2AB c2zG|
BB2B BBB,B,|B,C2D E2zG|
GG2G GFEF|GG2=G^G2zB|
GGGG G2EF|GF2E F2zB|
G2GG GF2E|
M:2/4
A3/2A/ AB|
M:4/4
c7z|BB2B BBB,B,|
M:2/4
B,C2D|
M:4/4
E6Z||

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 21 Oct 00 - 08:27 AM

Duplicate of the tune I posted to the Vegemite thread. Regards, John

T:Vegemite Song
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=120
K:C
G2|EEEE EE^DE|FFFE F2zG|
FFFF FFEF|GG^FA G2zG|
EEEE EEDC|FEFG AA^GA|
cCCC CA^GA|cCCC CG^FG|
B3A G2B2|c6

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 20 Oct 00 - 04:53 PM

MMario, thanks. I had forgotten that I would see Dick, Susan, and Max of DT tomorrow, and I have some other things to pass along to Dick, so I'll just type it all up, copy to a diskette, and hand it to him then.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 20 Oct 00 - 11:04 AM

2357) MOLLY AND TENBROOKS- midi by barry taylor found by JIB. NWC file to DickG

files updated

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 20 Oct 00 - 09:13 AM

Bruce - no, I do not have an edit function. With your permission I will forward your posting to Dick G - (or you can do it yourself) I think the changes have to be done in the DT itself, not just the website.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: Noreen
Date: 20 Oct 00 - 07:20 AM

Louie Roy, if you go back to the 'Lyrics, Forum & Chat' page and click on 'create a new thread', then put the title of your hymn in your thread title, you'll get more response than buried in this thread.

Good luck

Noreen

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: GUEST,Bruce O.
Date: 20 Oct 00 - 02:37 AM

MMario, can you switch text around in DT files?

"The brisk young lad" in DT file BRISKLAD doesn't have a tune. The song without music or tune direction is in Herd's 'Scots Songs', II, 1776, and with music in 'The Scots Musical Museum', #219 (1790) and I have the tune there, and versions of it as early as 1740, and there's even an ABC of a version of c 1778 on the web. The tune in SMM may not be the original tune for the song, but it's the earliest known tune for the song.

However, the song starts in the noted collections with "There came a young man to my daddy's door" and the chorus follows as "And wow, but he was a braw young lad". For some unknown reason the song is given chorus first in DT, so the tune won't fit right unless the DT text is rearranged to put chorus after the first verse. I won't do an ABC of the tune with the 2nd strain first. [I've got a recorded version of the song sung by Ewan MacColl that he said he learned from his mother and then he completed it from the text given by David Herd.]

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 19 Oct 00 - 02:31 PM

1320) THE GLENBOROUGH WOOL - midi from JIB sent to alan, NWC to Joe

2250) MANSION ON THE HILL - midi found by JIB - NWC file sent to DickG; midi to Alan

2348) MISS OTIS REGRETS - midi found by JIB to alan, nwc file to DickG

2358) MOLLY DO YOU LOVE ME - midi found by JIB, sent to Alan, NWC to DickG

midi of Molly and Tenbrooks sent to alan.

files updated.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: Sorcha
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 07:53 PM

I printed out the words to "Looking for That Bully of the Town" and gave them to our vocalist. We tried to sing and play it last nite (the tune I abc posted here). Some of it fits the words, but some of it doesn't, so I guess it needs to be tweaked rather heavily. We tried AABB and ABAB. Neither was exactly correct to fit the words. Sorry. But I still think it is the basic tune, because a lot of it does fit.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 07:29 PM

Thanks MM, I don't quite know how I missed that one. Regards, John

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: IvanB
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 04:30 PM

John, Nottamun Town, as sung by Jean Ritchie, is listed in the DT as 'Fair Nottamun Town.' There is also a MIDI there, although it differs in a few instances from the one in Jean Ritchie's 'Celebrations' songbook. I'm not familiar with the Fairport Convention version, but the tune in the DT is also fairly close to your abc.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 04:19 PM

2678) ORANGE BLOSSOM SPECIAL - midi from John in Brisbane sent to Alan - nwc to joe

2739) PEGGY AND THE SOLDIER. - midi sent to alan from JIB, NWC file to Joe

file updated

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 03:31 PM

2164) LORD MARLBOROUGH - mid from John_in_brisbane sent to Alan, NWC file to JOe

files updated.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: GUEST,John in Brisbane
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 07:12 AM

THE GLENBURGH WOOL was written by poet Jack Sorensen with music by John Joseph Jones. It's taken me ages to find this tune but tracked it down as part of the Folk Music Series of the 1964 Adelaide Festival of the Arts where a number of Jones original compositions were performed and recorded. The citation in the DT gives an incorrect spelling for Glenburgh (Western Australia) and as I recall also mispells Sorensen.

Sending a MIDI to MMario.

Regards, John

Subject: Lyrics wanted
From: Louie Roy
Date: 18 Oct 00 - 12:03 AM

Can anyone help with the words to a Hymn The name could be "Take me back to Calvary". The Chorus goes like this Take me back to Calvary Let me tarry there Where Jesus knelt and prayed for me All because he cared

One verse started like this I would stand beside the tomb My mother use to sing this song back in the 1930s Louie

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 04:57 PM

Note: Burke - I tried to fit the DT words to that midi but was unable to do so. It may just be I am unfamiliar with it.

John In Brisbane submitted most of the following

216) BALLAD OF THE UNKNOWN SOLDIER - midi by JIB sent to Alan - NWC file to Joe

371) BLOODY ORKNEY -midi by JIB sent to Alan, NWC to Joe

515) BUAIN NA RAINICH (CUTTING THE BRACKEN)- midi sent to Alan

938) THE DREAM OF NAPOLEON - midi sent to Alan, NWC to Joe

several more I haven't mailed yet but that will due for today.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: GUEST,John in Brisbane
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 09:13 AM

Nottanum Town (lyrics not yet posted)

X:1
T:Nottanum Town - Fairport Convention
M:3/4
L:1/4
Q:1/4=150
K:F
D | D3/2 D/ F | D3 | zz A/ A/ | AAG|
A3|zzA/A/| AGA | d3 | zzA/A/ |
GAc | A3 | zzA/A/ | AGA | d3 |
zzA/A/ | GAc | A3 | zzA | AGA |
cAG | FDC | D7zz ||

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: GUEST,John in Brisbane
Date: 17 Oct 00 - 08:59 AM

A minor victory - I finally found the music for The Glenborough Wool plus a small collection of Fairport Convention songs. Will post when I get the chance. Regards, John

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: Burke
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 07:59 PM

1676) I WILL ARISE

This looks like a variant of Restoration in the Sacred Harp. The tune with different words is in the Southern Harmony

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 04:25 PM

oops! forgot to say that files have been updated as of today.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 16 Oct 00 - 03:52 PM

3267) THE STONE OUTSIDE DAN MURPHY'S DOOR - http://www.mudcat.org/thread.CFM?threadID=8746 - also posted by snuffy to thread 26164

434) BONNY BOY - posted by snuffy to thread 26164

1605) THE HUNGRY CHILD- posted by snuffy to thead 26164

3743) WHITSUN CAROL - posted by snuffy to thread 26164

Please Note: there are SOME tunes posted to threads previous to this "find the tune" drive that may have not been found. The above Stone outside Dan Murphy's door is an example. If brought to my attention I show both locations in my "found tune" list.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 13 Oct 00 - 02:09 PM

the "no tune" file has been updated with a whole bunch of songs John-in-Brisbane is working on/has worked on/plans to work on.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 08:10 PM

Also working on:

Bonnie and Clyde
Cigarettes and Whisky ..

Regards, John

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 08:07 PM

Thanks MM, I reviewed the Forum and remembered that Dale Rose had found an on-line GIF at Library of Congress (or similar). I had promised to notate the tune but have not prior to this. I found the song in print in 'Irish Music Hall' from MCA/MILLS - no publication date.

Of the 70 or so songs in this volume of 'American Irish' songs there are probably three others that would warrant attention:

If You're Irish Come Into The Parlor (missing tune in DT)

Irish Jaunting Car (popular in my parent's era)

With My Shilelagh Under My Arm (music hall classic)

It also includes a number of songs that are in the DT, where authors are nominated. While I can't guarantee their authenticity I'll mention them now.

The Moonshiner - Delya Murphy MCMXXXIX - Walton's of Dublin

Harrigan - George M Cohan MCMVII

Isle of Innisfree - Dick Farrely MCML Peter Maurice Music London

Courtin in the Kitchen - Delya Murphy MCMXKII - Walton's Dublin

Wearin Of The Green - Lyrics by Dion Boucicault 1942 - Mills Music

Killarney - MW Balfe 1942 - Mills Music

I'll Take You Home Again Kathleen - Thomas P Westendorf 1942 - Mills Music

Regards, John

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 04:26 PM

2801) POOR OLD HORSE - see tunefile [deadhors

files updated

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 10:25 AM

john - "The Agricultural Irish Girl" HAS NOT been posted as far as I can tell.

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 10:21 AM

File updated to show those John working on. "When the bloody war is over" and "The merry Ploughboy" both have references to other tunes in my "found song" file, but no reference to midi's having been posted

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 12 Oct 00 - 01:32 AM

I'm curently working on the current tunes (in various stages of readiness:

When This Bloody War Is Over

Lord Marlborough

Peggy and the Soldier

Wellington and Waterloo

Ballad of the Unknown Soldier

The Merry Ploughboy (?)

Female Drummer

Dream of Napoleon

Bloody Orkney

Dunkirk (new song)

The Flyting of Life and Daith (new song)

With Wellington We'll Go

Orange Blossom Special

Saginaw Michigan

It's Hard To Be Hunble

When The Stars Gegin To Fall

Yes We Have No Bananas

I'm An Old Cowhand

I'm Going Back Again to Yarrawonga (new song)

The Australaise

The Agricultural Irish Girl (I've been looking for this for 12 months, but am uncertain whether someone else has already contributed this).

Cam Ye By Atholl

Weep Ye Weel By Atholl

Plus a few more that I can't recall at the moment. Regards, John

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 09:41 PM

Three more midis and a note:

THE CROPPIE BOY filename[ CROPPIE1  Transcribed from a record?  Colm O Lochlainn gives this version in Irish Street Ballads vol.2, and comments:

"...Contributed to The Nation, 1845, by "Carrol Malone", said to be Dr. James McBurney of Belfast...The air is that mentioned in Henry V by Shakespeare [as] Callino Custurame for which see Éigse, vols.i-iii, Cailín ó Chois tSúire mé and Chappell: Old English Popular Music, vol.i, p.84, where it is traced back to 1584."

HENRY JOY MCCRACKEN filename[ HENRYJO2  No source named.  Midi made from the version in Colm O Lochlainn's Irish Street Ballads vol.1  O Lochlainn comments:

"...I turned...up [the tune] in the complete Petrie Collection, Piii, 558, The Belfast Mountains.  The song...was written by P.J. McCall, author of Boulavogue."

"dream" in verse 1 line 3 should be "dree".

RISE UP JOCK filename[ RISEJOCK  Transcribed from a record by Roberts and Barrand, who seem to have made numerous alterations, mostly small but in a few cases very annoying, to the song written by Bob Pegg (who is not credited in the entry).  I've put parallel texts in a separate thread, here:  Rise Up Jock: original version  midi made from Pegg's original recording, on He Came from the Mountains (Bob and Carole Pegg, Trailer LER 3016, 1971)

Note:

THE WOMEN ARE WORSE THAN THE MEN filename[ DEVLWIF5  This is the version from Colm O Lochlainn's Irish Street Ballads vol.1; presumably that is the version of which John of Brisbane has already sent in a midi.  O Lochlainn had the song from D. Maguire of Belfast in 1912.  The text in the DT completely fails to mention that there is an interlaced refrain, and also omits the first verse.  Here it is, showing how the song was actually sung:

Is it true that the women are worse than the men?
Right fol right fol tiddy fol lay;
Is it true that the women are worse than the men?
That they went down to hell and were thrown out again?
With your right fol lol tiddy fol lol,
Fol the dol lol the dol, lol the dol lay.

Malcolm

Subject: RE: Tune Add: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 05 Oct 00 - 10:15 AM

801) DARK AS THE DUNGEON - posted by snuffy to 23672 Oct. 4/00

1038) EVERYBODY LOVES SATURDAY NIGHT - posted by snuffy to threas 23672 Oct 4/00

2242) MAMA DON'T 'LOW - posted by snuffy to threas 23672 Oct 4/00

2330) MIGHTY DAY - posted by snuffy to thread 23672 Oct 4/00

2567) OH, MARY DON'T YOU WEEP - posted by snuffy to thread 23672 Oct 4/00

latest guesstamate - 2854 to go

Subject: Missing Tunes Wanted -IV
From: MMario
Date: 04 Oct 00 - 04:21 PM

the previous section getting too long - see part III