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Get More Folk in New York City!!!!

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Subject: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Joy Bennett
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 12:36 PM

just another of the wonderful events brought to you by the Folk Music Society of New York (aka Pinewoods.)

if you haven't heard The NexTradition -- you must-- if says on their new CD "Deep Roots, Dangerous Harmonies" -- if you like goosebumps, you hair standing on end, and an sound that will knock your socks off, don't miss this concert on April 6, 8PM at Wunsch Hall of Polytechnic University in Brooklyn. Admission is only $10, $9 for members, free to Polytech students!!

This is just one of the many concerts and events we hold each year. discounts abound -- become a member today

For your $27 per year individual, $37 per year dual/family, you get a monthly newsletter with a listing of lots of around town happenings, Pinewoods news and interesting trivia, 6, count them, 6 free member series concerts per year --- discounts to house concerts and our Folk off Broadway series where you can hear some truly talented musicians up close and personal, and $25 discounts on our weekends away -- Spring & Fall (workshops, concerts and jams) and winter (all jamming, all the time.) So why wait?

post to this thread or contact us at nypinewood@aol.com - visit our website at www.folkmusicny.org


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: JedMarum
Date: 20 Mar 01 - 03:04 PM

Surely these threads are related!


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Joy Bennett
Date: 21 Mar 01 - 12:01 AM

Bruce Molsky in concert - April 13 at PS 41 check out the Bruce Molsky Thread for more info. He will blow you away.

This is just one of the many concerts and events we hold each year. discounts abound -- become a member today

For your $27 per year individual, $37 per year dual/family, you get a monthly newsletter with a listing of lots of around town happenings, Pinewoods news and interesting trivia, 6, count them, 6 free member series concerts per year --- discounts to house concerts and our Folk off Broadway series where you can hear some truly talented musicians up close and personal, and $25 discounts on our weekends away -- Spring & Fall (workshops, concerts and jams) and winter (all jamming, all the time.) So why wait?

post to this thread or contact us at nypinewood@aol.com - visit our website at www.folkmusicny.org


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Suffet
Date: 21 Mar 01 - 06:46 AM

And don't forget that joining Pinewoods will give you the opportunity to hear the living legend Bill Staines for free.

Bill will appear at the Advent Lutheran Church in New York City (Broadway & West 93rd Street) on Thursday, May 10, 2001, at 8:00 PM. General admission is $13, so joining the club is a particularly good deal, particularly of you join as a family. But here's an even better deal. Come to any of the Pinewoods series concerts (e.g. Bruce Molsky on 4/13/01, Bill Staines on 5/10/01) and pay the regular price. Then if you like what you hear, ask to join on the way out. We will credit the price of admission towards your membership dues.

Just say "Steve sent me!"


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Midchuck
Date: 21 Mar 01 - 06:47 AM

There's too much folk'in New York City as it is!

Peter.


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 21 Mar 01 - 08:53 AM

Midchuck - that's not nice...I think.


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Joy Bennett
Date: 21 Mar 01 - 10:35 AM

ok, so get more QUALITY folk in NYC!!!

There's never enough of that as far as I am concerned. But, let's face it there's so much to do in NYC that the competition for audiences is enormous.

so come on down and support quality folk music -- come to some events -- come on a weekend and make your own music.


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Suffet
Date: 21 Mar 01 - 05:51 PM

New York Pinewoods Folk Music Club
Folk Music Society of New York, Inc.
450 7th Avenue #972
New York, NY 10123
(212) 563-4099

PRESS RELEASE

Contact for this event: Evy Mayer, (718) 549-1344 after 11 AM only.

For immediate release on or after March 20, 2001.
The NexTradition to Appear in Brooklyn, NY, on Friday, April 6, 2001.

High Powered A Capella Duo at Polytechnic in Pinewoods ³Folk Off-Broadway² Series.

The NexTradition, traditional a capella singers Ken Schatz and Alison Kelley, will appear at Wunsch Hall, Polytechnic University in Brooklyn on Friday evening, April 6, 2001, as part of the New York Pinewoods Folk Music Club¹s ³Folk Off-Broadway² concert series produced in cooperation with the school. The show starts at 8:00 PM sharp. General admission is $10. Pinewoods members pay only $9, and Polytechnic students will be admitted free.

The NexTradition -- called TNT for short -- can best be described as traditional music in motion. Two voices. Dangerous harmonies. Goose-bump images. Driving rhythms and roaring choruses. Born in June 1997 at the Mystic Sea Music Festival in Mystic, Connecticut, The NexTradition was christened by Heather Wood (of The Young Tradition) on the back of a beer menu a few months later.

TNT performs traditional music from North America, the British Isles, and around the world: sea songs and chanteys, Gospel and blues, work songs of the railroads, mines, prisons, factories, and fields.

Wunsch Hall, the Polytechnic University student center, is located in Metrotech Center in downtown Brooklyn, easily accessible by public transportation. The nearest subway stop is Lawrence Street on the M, N. and R lines. Ample parking is available after 7:00 PM.

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Subject: Open Mike new venue
From: Suffet
Date: 22 Mar 01 - 04:37 PM

New York Pinewoods Folk Music Club now has a new home for our monthly Open Microphone. We will continue this event on the third Wednesday of each month at:

The Lounge / TRIAD Theater
158 West 72nd Street
between Broadway and Columbus Avenue
New York City
Sessions run from 7:00 to 10:00 pm and will begin PROMPTLY!

Admission is $5 at the door. Drinks are available, but there is no minimum purchase required.

The new space includes a real stage, a sound system, wait-staff, and a bar-tender.

The next session will take place April 18, 2001.

See you there!

--- Steve


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Joy Bennett
Date: 22 Mar 01 - 09:40 PM

correction to the open Mike has been moved to April 25 , same time same place - there was a double booking for that night


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Suffet
Date: 22 Mar 01 - 10:06 PM

Joy,

Thanks for posting this correction. For this coming April only, the Open Mike will take place on the fourth Wednesday, i.e. April 25, 2001.

Beginning in May, the Open Mike will be held on the third Wednesday of each month, as it had been at the three previous locations.

--- Steve


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Suffet
Date: 23 Mar 01 - 06:43 AM

New York Pinewoods Folk Music Club
Folk Music Society of New York, Inc.
450 7th Avenue #972
New York, NY 10123
(212) 563-4099

PRESS RELEASE

Contact for this event: Evy Mayer, (718) 549-1344 after 11 AM only.

For immediate release on or after March 23, 2001:

Folksinger-songwriter Bill Staines to appear in New York City, Thursday, May 10, 2001, at 8 PM.

Pinewoods Series Concert to be held at Advent Lutheran Church.

New York Pinewoods Folk Music Club proudly presents legendary folksinger-songwriter Bill Staines in concert at the Advent Lutheran Church, Broadway and West 93rd Street in New York City, on Thursday evening, May 10, 2001. The show begins at 8 PM. This concert is one in a series of six per year presented by Pinewoods and is free to club members. General public admission is $13. Seniors citizens and students pay only $9 each. Children¹s admission is just $6. The nearest subway stop is 96th Street on the 1, 2, 3, and 9 lines. For further information the public can call Evy Mayer at (718) 549-1344 after 11 AM.

For more than 30 years Bill Staines has traveled back and forth across North America, singing his songs and delighting audiences at festivals, folksong societies, colleges, concert halls, clubs, and coffee houses.

Bill has become one of the most popular singers on the folk circuit today and averages around 200 concert dates a year. Bill weaves a gentle blend of wit and humor into his performances. Bill sings mostly his own songs, and his music is a slice of Americana, reflecting with the same ease his feelings about the prairie people of the Midwest or the adventurers of the Yukon. Among his best known compositions are A Place In the Choir, River, and Roseville Fair.

Between his own creations, Bill intersperses songs ranging from traditional folk ballads to contemporary country, and he enjoys having the audience participate in many of the numbers. Bill is also acclaimed for his yodeling.

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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Suffet
Date: 29 Mar 01 - 07:01 AM

And for those who want to actually hear Joy Bennett in person, along with some other very talented folks, I recommend the following gig at the PEOPLES' VOICE CAFE at The Workmen's Circle, 45 East 33rd Street (between Madison & Park Avenues) in New York City:

Saturday, April 28, 2001
8:00 PM

WATER SIGN

Water Sign's music is a journey on "America's deep river of song." Building bridges across generations and among the multitude of cultures that have influenced our musical heritage, they are especially devoted to keeping alive the wonderful traditions of close vocal harmony and community singing. Whether performing contemporary or original songs, or offering traditional tunes with contemporary harmonies, working a capella or with instrumentation, theirs is a program of fun, creativity, humor, insight, and spirit.


THE SINGING CONQUERORS

The Singing Conquerors, NYC's only bluegrass gospel group, plays a unique style of music which blends Anglo- and African-American musical traditions. Founded in 1992, the group has played for a wide variety of audiences -- at the White House, the Ralph Stanley Bluegrass Festival, and on the Bobby Jones Gospel Hour on BET. Upcoming appearances include the Podunk Blueegrass Festival as well as the Grey Fox Bluegrass Festival, in July 2001.


General admission: $10
Peoples' Voice or Workmen's Circle member: $7
Senior citizen, unemployed, on strike, etc.: $5


Joy is a member of Water Sign. See you there!

--- Steve


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Joy Bennett
Date: 29 Mar 01 - 09:04 AM

Thanks for the plug Steve. It promises to be a fun evening!

and both groups are going to join together at the end for a song or two!

come sing with us!!


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Suffet
Date: 31 Mar 01 - 01:25 AM

Just confirmed!

New York Pinewoods Folk Music Club and Polytechnic University present...

Geoff Kaufman

Friday, May 4, 2001 at 8 PM.
Wunsch Hall Student Center, Polytechnic University
Metrotech Center, Downtown Brooklyn, New York
Close to many subway lines.
Ample on-street parking is available after 7 PM.

Geoff Kaufman is most widely known for his music of the sea, a specialty he has honed over the last seventeen years at Mystic Seaport in Connecticut as chanteyman, foreman of Interpretive Music Programs, and director of the annual Sea Music Festival. His first solo recording, "Fair Stood the Wind," is an exemplary selection of traditional and contemporary maritime music.

General admission: $10
Pinewoods members: $9
Polytechnic students: free

http://www.folkmusicny.org


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Joy Bennett
Date: 31 Mar 01 - 08:55 AM

don't miss this one either!!


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Suffet
Date: 02 Apr 01 - 07:23 AM

And while I'm at it, let me plug a gig of my own...

Woody Guthrie Birthday Bash
Round Robin Songfest
Sunday, July 15, 2001, 7 to 9 PM

Featuring:
Carlos Rosello
Erica Smith
Richard Fried
Jessica Feinbloom
Joel Landy
Steve Suffet

CB's 313 Gallery
313 Bowery
New York City

$5 cover lets you stay all night and hear other acts as well.

--- Steve


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Joy Bennett
Date: 06 Apr 01 - 08:55 AM

don't forget to check out The NexTradition at Brooklyn Polytech -- Friday April 6, 8:00pm Wunsch Hall!!

Be there!! Deep roots, dangerous harmonies -- lots of fun people in the audience too!!!


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Suffet
Date: 07 May 01 - 09:42 PM

Coming Thursday, May 10, 2001...

The legendary BILL STAINES in concert!

Advent Lutheran Church
Broadway & West 93rd Street
Upper West Side, Manhattan
8:00 PM

General admission: $13.
Senior citizens or full time students: $9.
Children: $6.
Members of NY Pinewoods Folk Music Club: FREE!


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: InOBU
Date: 07 May 01 - 09:47 PM

Hi Guys... Don't Forget Sorcha Dorcha on May 20 at Hugh O'Lunny's NYC (46th st) and May 13 Monroe NY Celtic Music Festival at Museum Village... Lorcan "plugomatic" Otway and Co.


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 May 01 - 09:37 AM

46th and where? Larry, you're slipping.


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: InOBU
Date: 08 May 01 - 12:17 PM

I will have to get the exact address, it is a block east of Times Sq. 116 or something... not hard to find, all the coppers know O'Lunny's... I'll get back on this... Larry


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Suffet
Date: 08 May 01 - 10:00 PM

Attention all you peformers searching for an appreciative audience!

New York Pinewoods Folk Music Club now has a new home for our monthly Open Microphone, held the third Wednesday of each month:

The Triad Lounge
158 West 72nd Street, just off Broadway
New York City
Sessions run from 7:00 to 10:00 PM and will begin PROMPTLY!

Next session is Wednesday, May 16, 2001.

$5 cover. Everyone pays, performer or not. Duration: 2 songs or 8 minutes, whichever comes first. Sign-up begins at 6:45 PM. There is no lottery. You appear in order of sign-up. If you are not among the first 15 to sign up, you only get to do 1 song or 4 minutes.

The Triad Lounge includes a real stage, a sound system, wait-staff, and a bartender.

--- Steve


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Suffet
Date: 12 May 01 - 12:43 PM

New York Pinewoods Folk Music Club welcomes you to the following events in New York City...


Sunday, 5/13/01. 2:30 PM. Old Time String Band Get-Together in Park Slope, Brooklyn. Phone Alan Friend for details: 718-965-4074. Free.

Wednesday, 5/16/01. 7 PM SHARP!. Traditional Music Open Mike. Triad Lounge, 158 West 72nd Street, Upper West Side, Manhattan. $5 cover + purchase of 2 drinks. Performers each get to do 2 songs or 8 minutes, whichever come first.

Thursday, 5/17/01. 6 to 8 PM. The Renaissance Charter School Coffee House. Featured guest artist: Toby Fagenson. 35-59 81st Street, just off 37th Avenue, Jackson Heights, Queens. Free. Food and non-alcoholic drinks to share would be most welcome.

Sunday, 5/20/01. 11 AM to 1 PM and also 2:30 to 5:30 PM. Sacred Harp Singing. Saint Bartholomew's Church, 109 East 50th Street, Midtown Manhattan. Contributions welcome.

Sunday, 5/20/01. 2 to 7 PM. Sunnyside Song Circle. At the home of Stephen & Marilyn Suffet, 41-05 47th Street, Sunnyside, Queens. Phone: 718-786-1533. All musical styles welcome, traditional and contemporary. Free. Munchies and libations welcome.


NYPFMC website: http://folkmusicny.org

--- Steve


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Subject: Open mike tonight!
From: Suffet
Date: 16 May 01 - 06:35 AM

Traditional Folk Music Open Microphone tonight (5/16/01) at the Triad Lounge, 158 West 72nd Street in New York City, 7 PM sharp! See the two previous messages for details.

See y'all there!

--- Steve


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: InOBU
Date: 16 May 01 - 07:37 AM

Gee, with all the apparant Pinewoods stuff going on, one has to ask why they don't book fellow mudcatter's band... Sorcha Dorcha, eh? L.O.


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Burke
Date: 16 May 01 - 11:01 AM

Sunday, 5/20/01. 11 AM to 1 PM and also 2:30 to 5:30 PM. Sacred Harp Singing. Saint Bartholomew's Church, 109 East 50th Street, Midtown Manhattan. Contributions welcome.

There's been a time change on this 11:30-5:00. Lunch break about 1:15. More information


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Suffet
Date: 16 May 01 - 04:39 PM

Larry or anyone else,

New York Pinewoods Folk Music Club does its booking through its program committee. The chairperson is Evy Mayer, whom you can PM right here on Mudcat. Her screen name is UKELADY. Or call her any weekday after 11 AM at (718) 549-1344.

Our six free to members concerts a year tend to be top drawing act s such as Bruce Moslky or Bill Staines. But we also book acts for the Folk Off Broadway concert series and other events. Evy can really give you some guidance.

--- Steve


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: GUEST,Ron Olesko
Date: 16 May 01 - 05:18 PM

Steve -

Sorry to do this publicly, but I'm still fuzzy on how to send a private note.

I host a radio show on WFDU in Teaneck, NJ. I am interested in finding out about the Traditional music open mic at Triad. I am sure my listeners would be interested.

Could you contact me at wfdutradtions@aol.com and tell me some more info? How can I reach you, etc?

Thanks!

Ron Olesko


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: InOBU
Date: 16 May 01 - 08:06 PM

As a matter of fact, Sorcha Dorcha did send a CD to Evy, one which recieved rather good responce from other mudcatters. After a long wait to recieve a note that the CD arived, which was not forthcoming, I sent an email to ask if it was lost in transit. Evy, who is a very nice polite person, by the by, told me she recieved it and to be patient. I have a sneeking suspicion that Pineswoods is a wee tad cliqish when it comes to booking, as responce from our concerts, including the Aimee Goodman show in exile tends to lead me to the conclution that we are a good band. Cheers, Larry


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Banjer
Date: 16 May 01 - 08:21 PM

I don't live anywhere near NYC but it is my feeling that there can never be enough folk music or other things heritage related.


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: alison
Date: 16 May 01 - 08:56 PM

Ron you can't send a personal message unless you register for membership here, (no fee... just fill in a few details... and you get all sorts of perks....)

Having heard the Sorcha Dorcha CD... I'm surprised you haven't been booked InOBU.....you have a fantastic sound... I'd certainly go to see a talented band like yourselves............ pity I'm in Australia..... *grin*

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: SINSULL
Date: 16 May 01 - 09:22 PM

I have seen Sorcha Dorcha live. Even paid to get in. A moving, wonderful experience. These are talented performers who shine under Larry's guidance. And AGAIN: Larry's tribute to Amadou Diallo is proof that folk music is alive and well and living (in this case, in NYC).


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 May 01 - 09:36 PM

I'd join alison here. The Pinewoods Concerts sound great and I was kinda' wondering myself why they have not included Sorcha Dorcha. Like alison, I too have the CD and I know Sinsull and others have seen them live. I wish I lived in NYC from that standpoint.....lots of good stuff there. If I did, Larry's group would be the first I'd go hear.....not because he's a 'Catter, but because I've listened to the CD repeatedly and it's great! Sinsull loved the performance even more than the CD so to me, that says a lot. Both traditional and topical, the "Ballad of Amadou Diallo" is a killer BTW............Larry, whatever Pinewoods likes or doesn't, you have one helluva' group and some serious songwriting skills.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: InOBU
Date: 16 May 01 - 10:04 PM

Thanks friends. New Yrok is a very hard place to make music and music with cultural and political significence has a high bar to clear in order to be heard. As hard as it is, it is the responce from friends such as you which keep my feet in this particular fire, for which, I am, funny enough, very greatful. Thanks again
Larry


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: DougR
Date: 17 May 01 - 01:35 AM

I have to second or third or whatever to those who have heard and liked Sorcha Dorcha's music. Sounds great to me! I'm not quite as far as Alison, but I guess I might as well be. It's too far to walk, I know that!

DougR


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Suffet
Date: 17 May 01 - 06:51 AM

I'm a member of the NY Pinewoods board of directors, so I won't comment on Larry's concern regarding cliquishness. However, I did speak to Evy Mayer last night and not only had she received the Sorcha Dorcha CD, she reminded me that the program committee presented Sorcha Dorcha along with dozens of other performers to be considered by the board. Without revealing specifics, which would certainly be unethical, let me point out that what the board of directors does is PRIORITIZE the performers who are presented to us. We then leave it up to the program committee to book the acts with the highest priority for our series concerts, of which there are 6 per year free to members. These are decent paying and widely publicized gigs, and the competition is fierce. The same goes for the performers at our weekend retreats, i.e. lots of artists are considered for relatively few slots.

New York Pinewoods Folk Music Club also sponsors and cosponsors smaller events, for which the booking is entirely up to the program committee. These include our Folk Off Broadway concerts currently being held at Polytechnic Univerity in Brooklyn. Once again, Evy Mayer (Ukelady) is the person to contact.

Finally, we conduct many workshops which either pay relatively little or are strictly volunteer. For example, we will have quite a few workshops at our annual Ed Fest on November 17, 2001. If anyone is interested, he/she/they should contact our education committee through its chairman, David Kleiman. His e-mail address is: dmkleiman@worldnet.att.net
--- Steve


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: InOBU
Date: 17 May 01 - 08:29 AM

Hi Steve, Cliquishness is not always either concious or a result of bad intentions. It is often that folks tend to hire the bands they are used to ... and some bands have to struggle like hell to get noticed - swim up streem. An example is the way the Irish Republican community hires Morning Star to play at every event. Fact is they are a wonderful band and Mary is a good a pal as I can name. However, it makes it immossible to get newer bands going. After thrity years of activism, after busking on the streets of every englsih speaking city - queit a few towns, and a few french speaking places as well, after supporting other bands, there just comes a time when one has to start standing up for one's propers. So... think of some of us in the margins, when booking is all I ask. - Larry


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 17 May 01 - 09:27 AM

Sounds like quite a bureaucracy you've got going there, Steve! I've got that Sorcha Dorcha CD, and it's certainly impressive - great songs and a terrific sound.

OK, a CD can't tell you everything, but if that's how some of the decisions have to be made these days, Sorcha Dorcha must be in with a shout. On top of which, there's someone here who reckons they're even better live, and you've surely got to take that seriously. Maybe you could form an ad-hoc sub-committee to review their position in the priority list and submit a discussion paper?


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 17 May 01 - 10:49 AM

Hi Larry!

There are hundreds of members at Pinewoods but, as you see from what Steve Suffet wrote above, the people who decide what music Pinewoods will present are the people who do the work at Pinewoods. They choose according to their own experience, their own taste and their own agendas. That is the reality of the situation.

Steve has more or less suggested to you that you perform at a "no pay" gig for the club. The benefit to you is that you would be heard "live" by some of those decision makers. You just make want to talk to the band about that.

All the best,
Dan


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: InOBU
Date: 17 May 01 - 11:01 AM

Thanks Dan, I would be happy to play a no pay gig, and in fact, let lots of the Pinewoods folk know about our People's Voice Cafe gig, in hopes they'd give us a try. They did not come to my knowlege to that gig, so I'd be happy to do a no pay gig. One clarification, as my band members are union folks, there is no such thing as a no pay gig, no pay means I pay them, which is a real hardship when there are so few venues in New York that pay. Again thanks for the kind words, Larry


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: InOBU
Date: 17 May 01 - 11:02 AM

One more clarification... I try to pay them... at present I am a wee bit in debt to some members of the band, so if you guys see this, the check is almost in the mail :-] Larry


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Joy Bennett
Date: 17 May 01 - 02:34 PM

Hey there all -- I am the current President of NY Pinewoods and would like to clarify a few things.

Prior to my presidency (now in the 5th month) I served for many years on the Program Committee and I can share with you that the goal of the committee was to recommend a variety of performers (here meaning single, duo, group, etc.) of varying levels, and those well-known as well as relatively unknown.

Often the committee recommends a performer one of us heard at a festival or concert somewhere - relatively unknown, but good. Other sources of suggestions for performers come from the members themselves through letters, through promotional material sent to us (through out Program Chair or President or other board or Club member.) New member packages include requests for suggestions for performers. We are constantly looking for performers that may be little known but who we believe our members would enjoy AND turn out to hear. It is though, a somewhat bureaucratic process - sometimes out of necessity. But that is to ensure we DO bring our members a varied program with opportunities to hear new people, as well as some of their favorites. We do have a budget to consider though and sometimes we cannot afford some performers.

There are many non Pinewoods members out there who say they would be members if...

I would suggest becoming a member and becoming a voice in the organization -- we DO listen to what our members say and want them to be involved. We also listen to non-members and take into consideration what they say.

The Pinewoods Board is an all-volunteer group, working very hard for its membership. The people who make up the Board have very diverse backgrounds and each has his/her own musical tastes, but each endeavors to help the club bring quality performers for club events, whether it be through the Music at Polytech series in Brooklyn, the Series Concerts, other small venue concerts (house concerts, etc.), or weekend getaways where you have an opportunity to be up close and personal with performers at workshops and other settings. (all of these are open to non-members as well at a higher fee.) We also endeavor to provide community singing/playing opportunities to members through the open sings in Brooklyn and now Queens, sacred harp sings, and others that right now I cannot bring to the front of my mind.

The main agenda of the club is to provide opportunities for our membership to listen to good/great performers, meet and hear new performers, learn some new musical skill, join in community sings, round robins, etc,; have a place to perform (the camper's concerts on our weekends, the traditional open mike, the Brooklyn sings, and other events), make new musical friends, and have some fun.

We do have some opportunities for no pay/little pay gigs such as our edfest (presented in conjunction with Country Dance New York) which is a mini-NOMAD type event held on one day, as well as some other benefit events during the year. And new ideas pop up all the time. We welcome yours. And we fervently welcome new members of all ages.

thanks

Joy


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: InOBU
Date: 17 May 01 - 04:46 PM

Hi Joy: Having read your message three times, and enjoying it each time, I would be happy to have the band concidered for one of your free concerts, though we don't do open mics, as the set up for a five piece band, which encludes as diverce instrumentation as ours, makes open mics not possible. We have four vocalists, including Eve Zanni, well known in Jazz and Irish folk circles, Gena Tlamsa, also known in Folk and Medievil music circles, Sarah Bell, on oboe and fiddle, Bill Bell on guitar, and of course yours truely on Uilleann Pipes and vocals as well as a smatering of other things, (most of our members play about three instruments. If you need a more recent CD than the last we sent, I'd be happy to send one. If you would like I can also send you reviews of our music from such respected mudcatters as Rick Fielding. The fact is we could get much more work if we did not do the kind of songs we do, about the killing of Amadou Diallo, and just did the happy face stuff. However, though we are obstinate in our belief that art has to be couragious about the issues of our day, we are also humble enough to beg.... PLEASE GIVE US A CHANCE!!! -
Your ol'l pal Larry


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: InOBU
Date: 17 May 01 - 04:52 PM

PS Hi Joy... For some reviews of Sorcha Dorcha, there is a blue clicky thing on the post, Sorcha Dorcha becomes a Dotcom...


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Suffet
Date: 17 May 01 - 05:58 PM

Extra! Extra! Read all about it!

We have just confirmed that the first New York Pinewoods series concert of the coming fall will present WATER SIGN -- Joy Bennett, David Kleiman, Steve Mayer, and Ellen Weiss.


Friday, November 2, 2001, 8:00 PM
Advent Lutheran Church New York City

General admission: $13
Senior citizens & students: $9
Children: $6
NY Pinewoods members: FREE


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 17 May 01 - 08:29 PM

Well I've got the Sorcha Orcha CD, and if a listen to it doesn't get the band a booking at Pinewoods, there are onlt two possible explanations. One would be that the bands that get booked there must be out of this world. The other is that the people doing the prioritising have their priorities in some disarray.

I'd like to think that it's the first explanation. It'd mean that folk music in New York would be on a high. But...

Sorcha Dorcha is seriously good.


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Suffet
Date: 17 May 01 - 10:02 PM

The artists that New York Pinewoods Folk Music Club books for our series concerts are exceptionally accomplished. Our three most recent series concerts featured Gerret and Jeff Warner, Bruce Molksy, and Bill Staines, respectively. That record speaks for itself!

In saying this, I do not mean to diminish anyone else.

---- Steve


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: Omar the Duck
Date: 18 May 01 - 01:06 PM

I don't know about you all, but I caught Sorcha Dorcha, someplace, I think it may have been at Jacob's Pillow Dance Festival or something like that... Well! That guy Larry was playing An Phis Fluich on the Uileann pipes, while singing a song about a guy from the "Decency in Gaelic Song Titles Brotherhood of Drunks" in the front row who was heckling them, making the song up on the spot, while kicking a sleeping band mate awake with his toe... at the same time, Sarah the Gammon Bell was shooting dried peas out of her oboe at the heckler, while not missing a note of the tune, her husband Bill, Dr. O'Fez Bell was playing the guitar and composing his a response to his doctoral thesis, on a laptop computer, typing with his bare feet, Gena Tlamsa was painting a picture of James Galway hugging Joe Stalin, while also playing the tune with her free hand, Eve Carrol Zanni was singing a harmony while drinking a Cranberry and Seltzer spritzer, and it all sounded GREAT!
Now you tell me you have a band more accomplished than that!!!! I should hope NOT!
Omar the D


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Subject: RE: Get More Folk in New York City!!!!
From: InOBU
Date: 19 May 01 - 07:10 AM

Dear Omar:
The gig only vaguely rings a bell, though, the Bell it rings is a recolection of Bill's Thesis on wether a fez works better than tin foil to amplify the voices in your head. Tin foil, if I remember right, can repell voices only if it is worn shiny side out, - where if you wear it shiny side in, the voices get louder... or so our neighbors who live on the streets of New York's lower east side tell me. I have been known to kick bandmates while playing and to write satires on the spot, and An Phis Fluich has been objected to by the organisation you state, as the title does translate badly, or well depending on your opinion of things in general.
But Accomplishment is a funny thing. Is it more accomplished to keep producing work apreciated by those who hear you, when those who wield the reins of employment ignore you - going for the safe choices, or is it accomplished to have courted the Tzars of the folk industry well enough to count on work. I don't know, dear old Omar, but if you keep listening, we will keep playing, even if it is in the subway, as it often is, to busk up enough to pay my bandmates.
Cheers and thanks for the suport, ol' Duck. ... and remember, COMING TO A BLACK LIST NEAR YOU! SORCHA DORCHA, the band with all those songs!
Cheers,
Larry


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