Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: Nigel Parsons Date: 17 Apr 23 - 04:38 PM Guest, Heather. I recently made available online copies of my Singing Together collection. Details of downloads available At Mudcat, here And a searchable (using ctrl+F) list of contents is available Here Cheers |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: GUEST,Heather Rowley Date: 02 Apr 23 - 04:05 PM Just today I found myself singing Linstead Market,remembered it from Singing Together,other songs too.Was most impressed with Jon's list. |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: Nigel Parsons Date: 29 Aug 22 - 10:04 AM Guest Philip: For a contents list of songs try This Thread You'll see there that if it's just a couple of songs I'll happily arrange for scans to be available once identified. Once you've gone to the other thread Ctrl+F will allow you to find particular titles quite easily. Cheers |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: GUEST,Philip Rhind-Tutt Date: 28 Aug 22 - 04:27 PM Is this thread still current? I am looking for a couple of songs from Singing together. |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: Nigel Parsons Date: 20 May 22 - 11:51 AM Sorry to take so long to respond, but if you're still looking in occasionally Margaret we already have Summer 1951 & Spring 1952 listed for contents. Spring 1950 is one I don't have, and would love to have sight of (for scanning). Cheers |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: GUEST,Margaret Date: 24 Dec 21 - 02:43 PM I have Summer 1951 (missing front cover, but the rest stitched together) and Spring Term 1952 (dirty condition, but otherwise complete). Any use to you? |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: GUEST,DorothyB Date: 27 Nov 17 - 02:47 AM Delighted to find this site - I have lovely memories of Singing Together and still have books: Autumn 1949, Cock-a-Doodle-Doo Amid the New-mown Hay The Keeper Child in a Manger Gold and Amber St Distaff's Day Christmas Carol [Ye shepherds so drowsy ... ] Whence is That Goodly Fragrance I Saw Three Ships Jesu Good Above All Other Ye Holy Angels Bright Prince and Princess Christmas Lullaby [Italian folk tune : begins La La La La etc] Past Three O'Clock The Spinning Wheel The Bellman' Song From Bethl'em's City Christ is born Spring 1950: British Grenadiers Lincolnshire Poacher Fairest Isle The Gnat Ho-Ro! My Nut-Brown Maiden Sweet Kitty Clover Venture Gwen The Well of St Keyne Willl Ye No Come Back Again? Little Rabbit in the Corn The Song of The Flax O Rare Turpin The Shepherdess The Little Chicken Bonny at Morn Wee Willie Grey I'll be very happy to email any songs requested. Also Autumn 1956 & Spring 1957 [given to me when I went to visit former teacher who was retiring]. I'll post those lists of songs later. |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: Nigel Parsons Date: 18 Sep 17 - 06:06 AM Hill and gully rider The list is here: Mudcat Haul away joe is in Spring 1958 Van Dieman's land partial answer only. |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: GUEST,Re: songs I remember NOT on list? Date: 18 Sep 17 - 04:58 AM Haul away joe(away haul away....) Merry Christmas (sun gleams bright ...Aussie Carol) Beep Beep Van diemans land ***not sure of names but the two I remember go like this "it was a beaut bike me bike", which was done in a round and the other "Chis, fips and sausage rolls, 5 guys tall and lean, you could say string beans" Was there one called hillungully rider? Thanks for the memories. The Carol was my favourite. I hate all Christmas songs except this one, so it's catchy!! |
Subject: Lyr Add: The Tortilla Vendor (Singing Together) From: Nigel Parsons Date: 31 Aug 15 - 09:02 PM Things get answered eventually: (requested Feb 2012) THE TORTILLA VENDOR Singing Together Spring 1981 (no names given) Source given as Chile. In the evening as I wander Through the town by lantern light, When I'm passing by your window, Then I sing a last goodnight. Chorus: Ah! I am sighing, While my wares I'm crying: Who'll buy from me tostaitas? Buy my tortillas? Oh, dear lady, why so cruel? Why no answer to my song? When I'm passing by your window, And the day has seemed so long. Cho: In the evening I am going By my lantern's glimm'ring light, I must leave you without knowing If you think of me tonight. Cho: X: 1 T: Tortillavendor M: 3/4 L: 1/4 C: Chile Z: NP 01/09/2015 K: D FG|BA2|zFG|B(A2|A2)F|(G3|G)FE|D2F|DFG|BA2|zFG|BA2|zFG|A2A|d2F|(G3|G)EF|AG2|zEF|AG2|zEF|G2A|c2B|(A3|A)zz|:(d3|d)cB|c(c2|c)zz|c2(c|c)BA|d(d2|d)zA|BA(F|F)G/F/ E/F/|Az(E|E)zz|(G3|G)FE|[1F2(F|F)zz:|[2D2(D|D)|| w: ||||||||* In the eve-ning as I wan-der Through the town by lan-tern light,* When I'm pass-ing by your win-dow, Then I sing a last good-night. *Ah! *I am sigh-ing, *While my *wares I'm cry-ing: *Who'll buy from me *to_sta_i-tas?_ Buy_ my tor-til-las?_|til-las? Copied from the BBC for schools booklet "Singing Together" (Spring 1981) NP |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: Megan L Date: 16 Aug 15 - 11:23 AM Jiver the man with the northern accent was probably its first presenter a Yorkshire man Herbert Wiseman |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' - BBC Song Booklets From: GUEST,Margaret Date: 16 Aug 15 - 10:03 AM I went to Williamsburgh Primary School in Scotland from 1975-82 & remember singing several songs from "Singing Together" : Mhairi's Wedding; Kalinka; Jamaica Farewell; Gypsy Rover, My Grandfather's Clock; Waltzing Mathilda; Marianina to name a few. I don't remember listening to them on the radio tho! |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,David Healy Date: 25 May 15 - 04:29 AM I remember some of these from the mid 50's at Woodhatch Junior School near Reigate. I had forgotten the BBC programme but the thread has kick-started the brain! Now retired, I play guitar and sing around care homes on the Isle of Wight ( where I now live) and I already sing some of these songs to the residents. I plan to include a few more! Sadly, quite a few of the old people suffer from the various forms of dementia, but it's fascinating to see how these old tunes and songs stimulate them to take part. Music and Movement? I have slightly different memories of that; I'm not sure if it would be politically correct these days to have the boys dancing around in their school shorts but the girls having to tuck their skirts into their knickers...... |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Joe Offer Date: 07 May 15 - 04:12 PM Hi, DTM- interesting that you should name two songs connected to Glasgow Orpheus Choir director Hugh S. Roberton, who wrote the words for "Mingulay Boat Song" (1938) and set it to a traditional tune. Lewis Bridal Song (Mairi's Wedding) was published by Roberton in 1937, with words by Hugh S. Roberton and a traditional tune noted by Roberton from Dr. Peter A. MacLeod. Roberton wrote words and music for Westering Home (1939) -Joe- |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,DTM Date: 07 May 15 - 09:12 AM Re. the end of the year vote. I remember 'The Lewis Bridal Song' (aka Mhari's Wedding) and 'Westering Home' winning. Generally the winner was a song with gusto rather than a ballad. For some unknown reason the Welsh song 'All Through The Night' spooked me for years. |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,jenny Date: 07 May 15 - 07:00 AM Love this thread it made the school days a lot more bearable and happier to sing these songs with your fellow classmates.I remember the trout by schubert and the fisherman with rod and line, also barbara allen and many many more. It woul be lovely if the children now still learnt them. thanks |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,jiver (17 Feb 2015) Date: 21 Feb 15 - 07:37 PM Does anyone remember the "votes" for best song at the end of the year? I think this was on "Rhythm and Melody". I remember the presenter was a man with a northern accent, and when he announced one year, (would have been 1960 or 61) that the winner was "Who Is Sylvia?" the whole class was incredulous, as we were sure it would be "Men of Harlech", which we would all sing lustily, even though we were in Egham, in Surrey! I can't remember my class voting, perhaps we couldn't afford the postage. |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,normalil Date: 30 Nov 14 - 08:00 AM I was an avid Singing Together fan during the 1950's. A huge wooden radio and black and white pamphlets with charming illustrations. I loved "Marianina." O'er the ocean flys a merry fey soft her wings are like a cloud of day. As she passes all the blue waves say, "Marianina do not roam come and turn us into foam come and turn us into foam, Marianina, Marianina, come o come and turn us into foam. The Rose on the Moorland song we learned with ST, and I sang it solo at our school concert circa 1959! I still remember all the words, and so many others! |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Camdenbear Date: 02 Nov 14 - 06:27 PM I too had a eureka moment when discussing Marco Polo and the following sprung to mind, 'When Marco Polo reached Venice with chinese silks and gold, no citizen would believe him, or trust the tales in told. Travellers tales, travellers tales, you can't believe in travellers, travellers tales!' Thought it came from a cartoon till I googled it and found this site, then the singing together sessions (which had been buried deep) all came back. However what was the song called?? |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Roger the Skiffler Date: 28 Oct 14 - 10:10 AM 100. AS I started this thread (one of my most successful, it seems!), I feel I ought to claim the century! RtS |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Joe Offer Date: 28 Oct 14 - 02:19 AM If you're interested in sharing, Sue, contact me and we'll work something out. -Joe Offer- joe@mudcat.org |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Sue Date: 28 Oct 14 - 02:10 AM I just stumbled across 2 "time & tune" booklets in the local oxfam shop. Attracted by the woodcut illustrations i spent a whole pound on them... now to try out on my trusty recorder. They include: As i was crossing Berwick Bridge; Skye boat song; Blow the man down; Come all you young sailors; Hilo somebody; Bobby Shafto; Donkey riding (1959). 2nd book: Ferdinando the donkey; the quarrelsome bells; London bridge is broken down; Jackie the sailor; Gloucestershire wassail; a babe is born in bethlehem (1964). Happy to scan and share if someone can tell me how / where to do this on mudcat :-) |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Val Date: 20 Aug 14 - 04:52 AM Hello! What a brilliant Forum - I found it because, pottering around the house yesterday, I suddenly found myself singing "Handsome John Brown", which became a total earworm! Probably the last time I heard it was circa 1957 at my small Church Primary School, St John the Baptist, Smallbridge, Rochdale, under the aegis of Mr Harry Corser - wonderful headmaster, and Manchester Morris Man. So I googled the lyrics, and was amazed to find that I was almost word perfect (!) I have often wondered if primary school kids still learn this kind of Folk/Popular music. I really hope they do - it was life-enhancing then, and still is... Best wishes. |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: danensis Date: 26 Jul 14 - 03:15 PM Annemieke, Not the Led Zeppelin one I take it? |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Annemieke Date: 26 Jul 14 - 03:06 PM Hello everyone, I'm from the Netherlands (so excuse me for my poor English) and I'm 25 years old. I was about 9 years old when I learned an English song in English class about rain and things you can't do because of the rain. I looked it up and came across this forum. It's called The Rain Song. I would be so happy if someone is willing to send me the sheetmusic, so I could sing it correctly to my son. He loves the song so much, I have to sing it every night to him, but I partially can't remember the melody. So, if anyone has the music of The Rain Song, please respond :) Annemieke (Anna Mary) |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Bluebell Date: 10 Jun 14 - 02:20 AM This forum is amazing! I'm an OAP now living in Canada and today, for some unknown reason, as I was working in the garden I suddenly started singing 'Boney was a Warrior' but couldn't remember all the words. I recalled that it was from a 'Singing Together' booklet, did a Google search, found all the lyrics and this site. Such memories from the 1950's - Mr. Nixon, our teacher at a tiny village school near Manchester, twiddling with the knobs on an old pre-war radio trying to tune into the BBC; it was such a disappointment when he couldn't find the station (Home Service?)and we had to do without our singing session. |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Nigel Parsons Date: 05 Apr 13 - 07:54 AM From: GUEST,henryp - PM Date: 15 Jan 13 - 12:03 PM Heidenröslein Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1771 (1749-1832) Melodie - Franz Schubert, 1815 (1797-1828) Melodie - Heinrich Werner, 1829 (1800-1833) From an earlier Mudcat thread; Once there was a wild rose gay, On the moorland growing, But a careless boy at play, Chanced to see the tempting spray, Which the breeze was blowing, Soft red rose, red rose of may, On the moorland growing. Lyrics and scansion seem reminiscent of one I learnt in school. Well, I say learnt, but I'm getting stuck for words now. But it does seem to be a different translation of the same song: Saw a youth a morning rose, Blooming in the heather, Gently as her leaves unclose, Straight to gaze on her he goes, 'Twas in Summer weather. Roselein Roselein, Roselein, Rose, Rose among the heather Cheers Nigel |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Paul O'Neill Date: 05 Apr 13 - 06:47 AM That is the most bizarre thing, the same thing has just happened to me. I'm 43 this year and I must have last heard that song in my first year at Junior school. I remember the pictures in the booklet that accompanied it were really distrubing. You had a better memory of the lyrics than me. I could only remember when Marco Polo reached Venice with China Silks and Gold. and the chorus. Great memories |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Qudsia Date: 31 Mar 13 - 09:14 PM In the woods there lived a pretty turtle dove, And she coed so sweetly in her nest above. Oh, I loved that pretty dove so much, I hoped one day, She would gladly leave her nest and come with me to stay. Birdy dear I'll give you everything you wish, You shall feed always from a silver dish. But no matter how I begged she only said "coe coe" Gently shook her pretty head and away she flew |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 31 Mar 13 - 06:05 PM Have just been reading through this thread again, and spotted a reference to a song about Per Spelman. The song began, "Per Spelman was lucky and had a fine cow. He wanted to fiddle but didn't know how..." He ends up selling his cow for "a violin, a violin, a viiiiooooliiin." But my naughty class used to sing "He wanted to piddle and didn't know how..." Nothing I did or threatened could stop them, probably because I was trying to smother my own giggles every time. |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Geraint Date: 31 Mar 13 - 09:21 AM My fiance went to school in the '80s with a music teacher who played these songs on the piano and taught her students to sing along. She must have carefully saved and preserved the Singing Together books. There is one song in particular that my better half often sings to herself but we can't find the music, full lyrics or even title anywhere. This is how she remembers it from the start: "Take grasses and flowers on midsummer night and bind them into your hair Laugh up at the man in the moon shining bright down over the pine filled air Tonight you shall dance on the shores of the lake With swimming and singing until the daybreak..." Does anyone know the name of the song? Or have the music?
-Joe Offer, Mudcat Archivist- |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Paul Davenport Date: 15 Jan 13 - 12:09 PM Appleby was Music advisor in Doncaster. The schools Music Centre there still bears hs name. Oh, yes he was a massive influence on several generations including those who never heard of him but who sang from those booklets. |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,henryp Date: 15 Jan 13 - 12:03 PM Heidenröslein Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1771 (1749-1832) Melodie - Franz Schubert, 1815 (1797-1828) Melodie - Heinrich Werner, 1829 (1800-1833) From an earlier Mudcat thread; Once there was a wild rose gay, On the moorland growing, But a careless boy at play, Chanced to see the tempting spray, Which the breeze was blowing, Soft red rose, red rose of may, On the moorland growing. Said the boy, "I'll pick you now", On the moorland growing; Said the rose, "I'll prick you now, "That you may remember how Sad I was at going". Soft red rose, red rose of May On the moorland growing. Roughly then he snatched his prize On the moorland growing, After this he'll be more wise, There before his very eyes, Blood was freely flowing, Soft red rose, red rose of may, On the moorland growing. |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Snuffy Date: 15 Jan 13 - 10:48 AM Steve I can't recall the English title, but your rose on the moorland song was a translation of Goethe's poem "Röslein auf der Heide", which was later adopted as a folksong in Germany |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Steve Gardham Date: 15 Jan 13 - 10:30 AM Hi Betsy, Yeah the lyrics are rather airy fairy. It was the tune and chorus I liked. |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Guest - Betsy Date: 14 Jan 13 - 07:33 PM Hi Steve , I wouldn't wish to take issue with you, but I refer you to my post (above) of 24 Aug 09 re:- Marianina (just in case you missed it !) Amazing how one recalls these items of almost insignificant information. I certainly have no intention of changing your opinion as to the song you enjoyed most. Cheers Betsy |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST Date: 14 Jan 13 - 09:24 AM I fondly remember singing together and when I sing those songs it takes me back to when I learnt them and I can remember the illustrations in the text because the lyrics were entwined around the pictures. It was still going when I left in 68. Singing always more popular than enforced playford dances where I was partnered with a boy due to shortage of girls. |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Steve Gardham Date: 14 Jan 13 - 09:10 AM What was the title of 'Once there was a wild rose gay, on the moorland growing, Till a careless boy at play chanced to see the tempting spray On the moorland grow-ow-ing' ? Sung by a shrill soprano, but nonetheless memorable. All time favourite was 'Marianina'. The first song I sang in a folk club c1965 was the chantey Sally Brown which I remembered from ST. Loved all the well-known chanteys. All done in Donny! Marvellous. I thought all Donny was famous for was the Steam engine sheds. Ah, those were the days! |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler Date: 14 Jan 13 - 09:02 AM My little sister liberated me a couple when she was in junior school and I wanted more folk music than the local library could provide. I particluarly wanted the words to "Johnny Todd", so this woiuld be somewher around 1967 or so. |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST, Hilary - An Oldie Date: 14 Jan 13 - 08:02 AM I woke up with the Zucturn song in my head this morning. Remember it well and probably all the other songs in that songbook and all the others from whatever year it was. Does anyone have those old Time and Tune Books still? |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Grandma W Date: 01 Apr 12 - 10:59 AM I loved 'Singing together'. I remember Football crazy,Johnny Todd, Elsie Marley, Bonie was a warrior. I have just been babysitting for my Granddaughter and sang Johnny Todd to her.I have a growly voice and was never allowed into the choir but 'Singing together' was for everyone and growlers were welcome. I love knowing the words to so many old folk tunes. |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST Date: 14 Mar 12 - 09:09 AM It was called Paul's Little Hen. |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,ian1943 Date: 13 Mar 12 - 03:13 PM I am 68 and was in a junior school from the late forties until the mid fifties and I remember our Tuesday (I think)morning broadcasts on the school valve radio of 'Singing Together' which was hosted, if that would be the word in those far-off days by William Appleby who, my understanding is,ended up as the Director of Music for Warwickshire. Had we but known then we were given a fine repertoire of English traditional songs. Some of us, in later years, recognised the debt we owe to these broadcasts and returned to the songs. William Appleby is a hero! |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Guest, Naomi Hartley Date: 13 Mar 12 - 01:39 PM I've just stumbled across this fantastic thread. I was helping my son with some homework which mentioned China and the Silk Road. The following song then for some inexplicable reason popped into my head after last being sung circa 1974\5 at James Dixon Primary School, Penge SE20. 'When Marco Polo reached Venice with chinese silks and gold, no citizen would believe him, or trust the tales in told. Travellers tales, travellers tales, you can't believe in travellers, travellers tales!' I googled to lyrics and got a hit on this website. Ah the memories of listening to the radio in our music lesson at school- Happy Days! Thanks for the memories. |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Kevin the gerbil Date: 14 Feb 12 - 02:23 PM Fascinating and very enjoyable thread this, which I found today when I googled "Singing Together", after I had been talking with a friend about being in the school choir. Singing Together was the brainchild of William "Pip" Appleby (mentioned earlier) who was based in Doncaster and who drew the singers in the Singing Together Choir from local schools in the surrounding area - and possibly further afield, but I'm not sure about that. I remember Singing Together and Sing at Sight from my primary school days in Doncaster in the late 50s/early 60s. The song lists given above are absolute gems btw - "Oh 'tis my delight on a shining night, when the copper's not about..." (With apologies to Rambling Sid Rumpo). I know that for a while at least in the early-to-mid 1960's they used the Library in the then Doncaster Grammar School to record the shows for the BBC because the acoustics - rather ironic I know for a library - were considered to be very good. William Appleby is still remembered with great affection by many people in Doncaster as the man who brought the possibility of a good musical education to several generations of essentially working class children. And his work is continued still - and very successfully - in the town by the exceptional staff in the Music Centre named after him. Thanks again all! |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: Mick Pearce (MCP) Date: 13 Feb 12 - 07:01 PM Spring 1981 is given in this thread: History - BBC's 'Singing Together' Mick |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST Date: 13 Feb 12 - 06:31 PM what is the date for the tortilla vendor, i remember that from around 1980, but would love to know the exact date, i know it was on radio 4, any of the other shows around 1980/81 id love to know about does any radio recodings exist ?? pete seaton peteseaton2012@aol.com |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST Date: 27 Nov 11 - 12:37 PM oh kiji was a hooser bold a hooser bold was he he fought so bravely for the Zhar the pride of the cavelry |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 24 Jul 11 - 04:59 PM The chorus was:- Watch for his coming, El Tigre Silent as nightfall, El Tigre, Swifter than sunflash, El Tigre, Lord of the jungle, El Tigre. (It wasn't a tiger, though, but a jaguar!) |
Subject: RE: 'Singing Together' 1958 UK From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 24 Jul 11 - 04:50 PM Guest Teekle, there was a song called 'El Tigre' from the Peru booklet (forget its actual title) but that was Singing Together in the seventies (did it with my class) |
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