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Lyr Req: Marmite Song 'The Bovril's with the gravy

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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Marmite Song 'The Bovril's with the gravy
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 21 Mar 17 - 10:50 AM

I did this a while ago when I decided to learn it.
I think the tune is about right but rather simplified from the Frank Harte recording.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

X:1
T:Marmite -simplified from Frank Harte recording
C:Kevin McGrath 1994
L:1/8
Q:1/4=120
M:4/4
I:linebreak $
K:Cmaj
V:1 treble nm="MusicXML Part"
%%MIDI program 0
V:1
E2 | GGGF F E2 c | ccBA G2 z $
D | GGAA BG zD | GGAA B2 z $
c | ccBA G C2 A | AAFA G2 z $
G | GGAA B G2 D | GGAA B2 z $
c | ccBA G C2 A | AAFA G2 z $
G | GGAA B G2 D | GGA_B =B2 z $
c | ccBA G C2 A | AAFA G2 z $
G | AABB c G2 e | edcB c3 $
G | AABB cGee | edcB c4 |


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Marmite Song 'The Bovril's with the gravy
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 21 Jul 16 - 05:12 AM

Like Scabby Doug (2001 post), I have also heard Adam McNaughtan sing it, and met with the same degree of hilarity as on the Frank Harte recording there.

In the meantime, references to Marmite have acquired a new meaning: e.g. "it's a real Marmite tune" = you either love it or loathe it!

And in a similar comment re hiw supermarkets decide where to put particular products, a friend was complaining that "the round rice is with the puddings, and the long grain's with the sauces".


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Marmite Song 'The Bovril's with the gravy
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 20 Jul 16 - 05:57 AM

OK - I see now that GUESTbigJ got there before me...

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Marmite Song 'The Bovril's with the gravy
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 20 Jul 16 - 05:54 AM

A mere fifteen years after I promised to speak to Frank Harte about Kevin's song, here's a link to a live recording of him singing it at the Goilin Singers Club, many years ago.

Click here

Note that he rightly acknowledges the author of the song. Being Frank, who rarely started a song without a change of key, he took two tries to get Kevin's name right ...

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Marmite Song 'The Bovril's with the gravy
From: JHW
Date: 10 Oct 14 - 05:15 AM

When this thread set away there might still have been the chance to hear Molly sing this in the Roger/Pavilion bar at Sidmouth in the lunchtime seaside singarounds. Haven't seen Molly a while now but hope she is still with us.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Marmite Song 'The Bovril's with the gravy
From: GUEST,bigJ
Date: 09 Oct 14 - 10:50 AM

Kevin,
Everything comes......

Click here


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bovril's With The Gravy the Marm
From: Jack Campin
Date: 23 Apr 07 - 04:30 PM

Is there a MIDI for the tune?

The "Hot Asphalt" tune sorta works but it can't have been the one intended.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bovril's With The Gravy the Marm
From: Chris Amos
Date: 05 Sep 01 - 01:35 AM

Mr McGrath,

I was recording my contribution to the sing-around at the Leigh on Sea F.F a couple of years ago, left my mini disk running and caught your song. I had better say at this point that I do not make a habit of recording people without their permission but I enjoyed it so much I didn't deleat it. If you would like a copy I am only down the road in Grays.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bovril's With The Gravy the Marm
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 04:55 AM

Yes, you are right. ...But I think the better word is order?

We need to order our world, to find some meaning, I think?

I think I need some more Martmite..........


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bovril's With The Gravy the Marm
From: Scabby Douglas
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 04:39 AM

Having heard it fairly recently, what struck me was: many people are searching - not just for Bovril or Marmite, but for *meaning*... but maybe the meaning we think there should be is not the one that actually controls our existence.

It's a bit like Douglas Adams' "Meaning of Life, the Universe and Everything" - the answer is 42...

And so, it's funny, because maybe the underlying guiding principle of existence is: THe Bovril's over there and the Marmite's down there...

Cheers

Steven


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bovril's With The Gravy the Marm
From: MartinRyan
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 04:34 PM

kevin

I'll mention it to Frank!

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bovril's With The Gravy the Marm
From: The Shambles
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 02:57 PM

Its the subject matter.....It just spreads.........

Its also about where many of us spend a lot of time and also our fight against the system.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bovril's With The Gravy the Marm
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 02:03 PM

Fresh from Fylde Folk Festival in Fleetwood - that's a lot of F's.

This is a nice welcome home thread. I haven't got a sound file of the tune, but I'll try and get round to it.

But I'd love to hear Frank Harte sing it - I sang it into his tape recorder a couple of years ago at the National Folk Festival in the bar.

I wish I could work out why it's funny. Hundreds of songs I've written, I imagine, and that's the one that hits the spot. I like to think it's the underlying theodicy of the text...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bovril's With The Gravy the Marm
From: Scabby Douglas
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 04:42 AM

Refresh... look I even renewed my cookie ( well, my PC needs fed every now and again)

Cheers


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bovril's With The Gravy the Marm
From: The Shambles
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 02:48 AM

Rescued again..........


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bovril's With The Gravy the Marm
From: The Shambles
Date: 02 Sep 01 - 05:38 AM

Refresh again

Where IS the man?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bovril's With The Gravy the Marm
From: The Shambles
Date: 01 Sep 01 - 12:16 PM

Refresh. To prevent this falling off the end of the world.

So the author can see this request for his song, on his return from whatever it is he needs to return from, to see it.

I think that he will like it?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bovril's With The Gravy the Marm
From: GUEST,Scabby Doug on the Cookie-eating PC
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 05:59 AM

Thank you so much!..

A song by a Mudcatter, no less..

In case you're interested Kevin, (amd others) it was sung by Adam McNaughtan in a concert in May.. he did credit the author, but I didn't pick up the name at the time..

It's a cracker of a song...

Cheers All!

Well Done.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bovril's With The Gravy the Marm
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 05:44 AM

You oughta hear Frank Harte sing it!

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bovril's With The Gravy the Marm
From: Pene Azul
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 05:37 AM

Yes, that is McGrath's song, isn't it? I thought it seemed familiar :^) Nice one, Kevin.

Jeff


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bovril's With The Gravy the Marm
From: IanC
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 05:35 AM

Doug

The song's by Kevin McGrath (McGrath of Harlow) and I think it's in the forum somewhere as well. If you type Marmite in the little box, top left, you'll get more than you could hope for, anyhow!

;-)
Ian


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Subject: ADD: The Marmite Song
From: Pene Azul
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 05:34 AM

The MARMITE SONG

C..................................................F...................C
I was lost, so lost in Tesco's, in an endless maze of shelves,
......................F........G...........C................D......................G
where those trolley pushers jostled, being each one for themselves,
............C.......G...........C................. .........F...........G.......C
I was hunting for the Marmite, which was nowheres to be found,
.............F........................G..........F.................D.............................G
and I'd searched through rows of pickles, as I wandered round and round.
...............F.....G.......C.....................F..........G.....C
Then a wandering assistant came to help me as I cried,
...........F...........................C............................D ..........................G
and I reached out with a trembling hand, and I asked - and she replied
..............F...........G.....C...................F........G..........F
"Oh the system's very simple, if you'll understand the plan,
..............F..........G.............C.....................F.............G...........C
.....the Bovril's with the Gravy, but the Marmite's with the Jam,
..............F..........G............C........F...........C...G.......F...........C
.....the Bovril's with the Gravy, but the Marmite's with the Jam.

I was out there in the traffic, I was lost out on the road,
so lost and tired and angry, I was ready to explode,
and the radio was blaring, with that irritating crap
"Well Hullo you happy drivers!" "Sure I'm struggling with me map!"
And I raised my eyes in anguish, called to heaven for some sign,
for some hint that there's a meaning in this world in which we pine.
And a voice from heaven answered, saying "The Master has a Plan -
.....the Bovril's with the Gravy, but the Marmite's with the Jam,
.....the Bovril's with the Gravy, but the Marmite's with the Jam."

Well I died and went to heaven, went to see the One in Three,
Who said, we're pretty busy, son, just come back, after tea",
so I sat upon a drifting cloud, and I viewed the passing scene -
which was very like Killarney, though it wasn't quite so green.
And everything seemed in its place, and I couldn't work out why,
so I asked this passing angel "Pray tell me Sir," says I -
"Ah" he says, " it's very simple, the Lion lies with the Lamb -
.....and the Bovril's with the Gravy but the Marmite's with the Jam
.....the Bovril's with the Gravy, but the Marmite's with the Jam.

16th June 1994

I wrote this the day a new Tescos opened in Harlow (that's three we've got now - the Harlow Triangle). It happened the way I describe it in the first verse, and it is still true for Tescos, though not necessarily for other supermarkets. Several people have said it's been quite a useful song to them. (It's very sensible really - people normally spread Marmite on bread and butter, like Jam and they mix Bovril up with hot water, like Gravy.)

In a way this is a vegetarian anthem, though I'm not a vegetarian. Mind you, I'm being driven that way, what with mad cows and all. Bovril and Marmite look very similar, and taste quite like each other, but Bovril is made out of dead cows, while Marmite is made out of yeast.

One thing I discovered from the Net is that apparently Americans don't have a Marmite equivalent - I came across this in a news group called rec.arts.wobegon, for Garrison Keillor afficionados. Someone posted a sad story about how they came across this nauseating substance which they thought would taste like chocolate and it didn't.

The Americans don't have Tescos either, or Bovril, I think, so this isn't a song that will travel. Though Australians have Vegemite, which is blander and more malty, but essentially the same, and if any Aussie feels like singing it with Vegemite, that's fine by me. Both Marmite and Vegemite are made out of some by-product of the brewing process I gather, so that's all right.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Bovril's With The Gravy the Marm
From: Pene Azul
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 05:33 AM

Looks like you can get the lyrics here (click).

Jeff


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Subject: The Bovril's With The Gravy the Marmite?
From: GUEST,Scabby Doug at Work (hence cookieless)
Date: 31 Aug 01 - 05:27 AM

Does anyone have the lyrics to a song with a refrain...

"The Bovril's with the gravy, and the Marmite's with the jam"?

And any thoughts on a tune would be appreciated too..

Cheers

SD


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