BS: Marmite (A)

Subject: BS: Marmite
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 04:01 AM

Papers report that Marmite is to be marketed in plastic squeezable bottles & that the recipe is to be modified to give the thinner consistency this requires.
So,Marmite - love it? hate it? whipped up into a frenzy of indifference by it? discuss.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 04:13 AM

I think the recipe has already been altered. I opened a jar recently and thought it was 'off'.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 04:15 AM

How could you tell? ;)

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 04:58 AM

I quite like the idea, anyone who has tried to dig the right amount out of a jar which has been kept in the fridge will know this. If it is on cooled toast it drags the butter/margarine off the bread and onto the knife with it, and you have to try and force the resulting khaki slurry off the knife, back onto the toast without the toast disintegrating.
If it on hot toast the melted butter provides a skid pan for the Marmite on the knife, and you end up squeegeeing the butter off the toast, while the marmite remains impervious to the toast.
In short marmite is like a child that doesn't want to go to school, and hangs on to the parent with more arms and legs than they had when you left home that morning.
It's a bit like trying to get rid of a chewy bogey, using a toothpick.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: ossonflags
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 05:05 AM

Give Muppett a gig !! his fee is marmite sandwitches !!!

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: autolycus
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 05:17 AM

There are few foods I haven't liked. Marmite is one of them.

There's a squeezable honey pot on the market too, tho' honey's now off my menu as part of a cholest.....    Sorry, thread drift.


Ivor

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: RolyH
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 05:23 AM

I used to have a serious marmite problem but now seem to have it under control ( 1 small jar a week )

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Alba
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 05:47 AM

Ah the blessed Marmite..!
I am about to provide a link to all things Marmite on the Mudcat,
Brace yourself oh lovers of the thick smelly Goo:)
Marmite Frenzy:)

I want to like it but alas no...lol

Best of Wishes to all as always
Jude

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 05:56 AM

uhmmm...Could we combine these 2 Threads?
BTW More bad news I'm afraid RolyH,the small jar is being discontinued.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: David C. Carter
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 06:03 AM

I know someone who confessed to useing it in curry,we don't eat there too often!

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From:
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 06:05 AM

I love it!! spread thickly on hot toast!!! Mmmmmmmm

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Stu
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 06:25 AM

Cheese and marmite butties (toasted). Yum.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: David C. Carter
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 06:48 AM

Well,I used to like the stuff when I lived in London,but now I seem to have lost my appetite for it.Maybe it does't travel well.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: MBSLynne
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 07:30 AM

Vegemite is better.

Giok...why on earth would you keep marmite in the fridge??

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 07:31 AM

Vegemite has been in large squeezeable platice tubes for years in Australia. My Secret Santees have been thus blessed...

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 08:28 AM

Yes, I'm with MBSLynne. A fridge is no place to keep Marmite. But even if you persist with that perversion, Giok, there's still no call for easy-squeeze packaging. Just offer the Marmite direct to the toast before applying the butter/margarine of your choice.

I understood that Marmite was not available in the States. Has it now penetrated that market? When I visited a pal in Alaska, the only commodity he asked me to bring from the old country was Marmite. I took him eight large jars, only to find at journey's end that all eight had exploded in my suitcase. Eventually all aromatic evidence of the catastrophe was purged from my clothes, but the suitcase never recovered.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 09:17 AM

All jars of food, be it Marmite [food of the Gods] Jam [comfit food] or Pickles [food of the Wilfreds] should be kept in the fridge once opened. The top shelf of our larder fridge at this moment contains at least 20 various jams jellies and condiments in the process of being consumed.
We do not suffer from blue mould on the top of our opened jars of food in this house.
We also almost always are able to ignore use by dates because this extends their keeping properties.
Incidentally it does say on the label of a Marmite jar "Store in a cool dark place"
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: frogprince
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 09:30 AM

Some places they get mildew
And others get too hot.
Some places are so damp that
Everything you got just rots
All kinds of condensation
Directories of the rain
There's not much compensation
When everything's been stained
Some have sentimental value that
Cannot be erased
Go store it in a cool dry place
                  ---The Traveling Wilburys

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 09:46 AM

I love that track Froggie.
G.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: GUEST, Topsie
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 09:47 AM

Purple Foxx "How could you tell?"

A newly opened jar of marmite should have a pristine firm smooth level surface (except for maybe a tiny ring left by a burst bubble near the edge), and when you take some out the knife leaves a clear impression. The surface on the latest jar wasn't firm, it was more like discarded engine oil, and the impression left by the knife sank back to a vague but unsatisfying levelness so that you couldn't tell whether you were the first to use it or not.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: manitas_at_work
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 09:52 AM

I wonder what sort of mould would be strong enough to grow in a jar of yeast extract! I don't think they had a fridge in mind when they said cool and dark, besides, it would make the Marmite too stiff to spread properly which was your problem wasn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 10:00 AM

Well it is made from the remains of the brewing process, so stiffness or lack of it may come into the equation! {See Brewer's Droop}
G.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Windsinger
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 10:28 AM

I always thought it was the greasy black gunk one finds beneath one's fridge. ;)

Slán,

~Fionn

www.geocities.com/children_of_lir

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Scoville
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 10:52 AM

I'm American and we don't seem to have developed a taste for it yet (but it can be bought here in some grocery stores).

I learned about it from one of those airline magazines, on my way home from Amsterdam in 1992. Years later, we were watching "The Vicar of Dibley", where Letty offers Geraldine some dark-colored cake. Geraldine asks, "Chocolate?", and Letty replies, "Marmite!". I howled.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Trevor
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 11:23 AM

And don't forget, when you're bored, if you smash Marmite, with a knife or the back of a spoon, for long enough, it turns white!

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 11:30 AM

I have never ever been let down by a jar of marmite. It will always remain a true friend to me. A tip:- Spread it on your lips and kiss someone in the dark. What a laugh.................

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: number 6
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 11:37 AM

What the HELL is Marmite???

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 11:41 AM

No Marmite is heaven not hell!
G.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: number 6
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 11:43 AM

Whew ... that is good to know.

Now where can one here in the Canadian Maritimes procure a jar of this heavenly delight?

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Windsinger
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 12:09 PM

Six,

It's a salty black grease made from yeast extract. In the UK it's popular to spread it on toast at breakfast.

If you can't get a hold of any, and want an approximation of the taste, drink some straight soy-sauce (or "Maggi" brand cooking sauce) perhaps with a few drops of aromatic bitters thrown in.

Needless to say, you either love the stuff or you despise it.

Slán,

~Fionn

www.geocities.com/children_of_lir

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 12:17 PM

Number 6, Bedesee import Canada's supply of this Yeast-based Manna.
Apparently Safeway are one of several stockists in your beautiful country.
Do not let anybody palm you off with Vegemite.
Vegemite is vile.
Maritimes is very nearly an anagram of Marmite.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 12:47 PM

Maritimes is Marmite!
G

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: open mike
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 01:32 PM

we have discussed this several times before
so there might be a thread or two.

one thing i would love to find is an
actual recipe. I would like to try to
make some..we have several breweries
here and also quite a few folks who
are home brewers. there is another
food product that can be found in health
food stores called brewers yeast. Some
tastes awful, and some (red star brand,
large flake yeast( is sweet and nutty
and can be sprinkled lliberally on
many foods) all have vitamin B and
are good for vegetarians who other
wise get few B vit in their diet.

i picture in Britain a brewery and
a marmite factory being across the street
from one another and the by products
from the Brewery being trucked across
the street to the marmite factory.

the spent hops and other by products from
brewing are possibly used for animal
feed, soil amendments, etc. Any one know?

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: MBSLynne
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 02:55 PM

Mould NEVER grows on either marmite or vegemite. You can open it then stick it in a cupboard and go back to it years hence and it will still be just the same.

And fridges don't stop mould growing on things...you should see my fridge shelves!

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Raedwulf
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 03:06 PM

mike - not far off. Basically, it's a by-product of the brewing industry. Perhaps the Marmite factory isn't just acroos the street, but see here for more...

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 03:11 PM

That was very informative and some of the pictures nostalgic.Thanks Raedwulf.
Scooby.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 03:21 PM

Well Lynne I'm not coming round your gaff for my tea at least until my Tetanus shots are up to date!
Mouldy fridge woman, I mean......................
G

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Raedwulf
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 03:48 PM

Scoob - Yer welcome!

Whereas...

Giok, you great kilted fairy! Marmite going off indeed! I buy it only by the big jar. Being both a bachelor & not much of a bread eater, it tends to last... And last... And last... Etcetera... Mold? What mold?

Lynne - Recant that foul heresy! Vegemite, pah! Wash your mouth out with the Holy Sustenance (No! Marmite, woman! Sheeeeesh...) Look, if you continue on like that, you'll be... Oh... You already are...

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: lady penelope
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 05:25 PM

Trevor, I hold you responsible. Parker is - as I type - stood in the kitchen hitting a blob of marmite to see if it'll turn white......

So far it has gone coffee colour as air is being beaten into it.......

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 05:35 PM

I suppose I could be persuaded to set up an exchange program for Vegemite/Real Maple Syrup - but we do get a few brands of alleged 'real' Maple Syrup stuff here. I'm a bit wary about buying 'Camp' though... ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 06:10 PM

But will it still be true that Tesco stores keep the Bovril with the gravy and the Marmite with the jam (as per McGrath's song)?

Kitty

PS IIRC it was announced that Bovril will be vegetarian in future

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 07:34 PM

cut out the middle man, buy it and then flush it straight down the bog

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: number 6
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 07:40 PM

I mentioned Marmite to my wife ... she had it once when she was a young girl growing up in Scotland ... she said it is disgusting.

Well, I don't care, gonna try this stuff anyway.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Bert
Date: 13 Mar 06 - 08:06 PM

Bovril will be vegetarian in future..

Bovril always used to make a good hot drink. Marmite doesn't.

Why would anyone buy vegetarian beef extract?

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: MBSLynne
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 03:09 AM

The same reason they buy vegetarian bacon bits I guess...and they are disgusting too!

Number 6...take it a little at a time. Break yourself in gently. If you weren't brought up on it it takes some getting used to. Lots of butter on the toast and a thin spreading of marmite (or preferably vegemite)

Raed, vegemite and marmite are like Aussie beer and English. When my Dad first went to Australia he didn't like Aussie beer, but persevered and got to like it. Then came over here and had to get used to English again, then back again. I had the same thing with marmite/vegemite. Marmite is still the thing you have when you can't get hold of vegemite though!

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 03:13 AM

Bovril used to be advertised with a picture of a Bull & the caption "My poor dead Brother."
The past really is another country.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Mo the caller
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 05:14 AM

Lynne, if you keep marmite more than 9 months or so it goes thick and sticky and wont spread properly.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 05:26 AM

But if you store it at the correct temperature then it will, in fact, regenerate itself whereby 1/2 a jar will end up full again after many months. Eventually you will have enough to work into your boots thus reducing the onset of Trenchfoot during the next war. Further details to follow.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: MBSLynne
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 05:59 AM

I've obviously never tried marmite nouveau then...it must all have been at least nine months old

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From:
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 06:35 AM

A jar of Marmite never lasts as long as 9 months with me...more like 1 month!

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: MBSLynne
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 07:48 AM

I have some very old marmite in the cupboard from a time when I couldn't get hold of vegemite. I'll have to check and see if it's unsable, but since we can now buy vegemite in our local Tesco, it will be a long time before I eat the marmite!

How much do you think I'd get for antique marmite on Ebay?

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 07:53 AM

Knowing you as well as i think i do Lynne Hundreds of Pounds,as you can get money out of a stone if you had too.
Scooby.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: Diva
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 07:54 AM

Love Marmite...its especially good on hot buttered crumpets but I know my sweetie will disagree with me on this one

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: MBSLynne
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 09:26 AM

I THINK I'll take that as a compliment Yas!

No, the only thing to have on crumpets is lots of butter, all oozy through the holes

Love Lynne

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite
From: saulgoldie
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 12:14 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite (A)
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 12:20 PM

What's this Marmite,eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite (A)
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 12:29 PM

I see from the "B" thread that my tip about applying Marmite before butter was shared with the Mudcat community way back in 2003, by Little Robyn, so really Giok has no-one to blame but himself for the sludgy (but nicely chilled) mess in which he finds himself.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite (A)
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 12:53 PM

Yes Lynne it was a compliment.
Scooby.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite (A)
From: Windsinger
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 01:12 PM

:::blink:::

:::blinkblink:::

URGH. Marmite temporal paradox! Two streams of reality!

(Brain...wrestling...with...math...)

Slán,

~Fionn

www.geocities.com/children_of_lir

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite (A)
From: Peace
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 06:40 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite (A)
From: open mike
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 09:36 PM

it is all trevor's fault...
he was my secret santa and
sent me BOTH marmite and crumpets...
a true example of "the first one's free"
now i am hooked...is there a 12 step program?

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite (A)
From: number 6
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 12:00 PM

Alas .... I have just tried some marmalite ... on toast. My immediate reaction was so, so. Certainly don't dislike it, but it didn't hit me with a wow. Your correct on just taking a bit at a tiem Lynne. I think it would go better with cheese (as stigweard said) and some slices of of tamatoe.

BTW ... kinda pricey here, a small jar for $2.99.I certainly don't think it should be packaged in a squeeze bottle.

Thanks for the thread. I always enjoy a new culinary exprience.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite (A)
From: Windsinger
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 12:15 PM

Don't be fooled.

As the trick (hypothetically) is in the thin spreading, that "small jar"'s designed to last QUITE a while -- leaving aside the fact that it has a half-life which rivals weapons grade plutonium anyway.

This "trick" does not work with me. Unfortunately, it still tastes like Marmite.

Slán,

~Fionn

www.geocities.com/children_of_lir

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite (A)
From: number 6
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 12:17 PM

Yikes .... I'll take note of that.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite (A)
From: MMario
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 12:23 PM

a friend once told me that the true secret to marmite was to mix a very small quantity (about 1/2 cc) with a half kilo of butter - and then spread *THAT* mixture very thinly on toast.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite (A)
From: gnomad
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 06:49 PM

MMario - I think homoeopathy requires you to dilute again in the same proportions, and do a lot of shaking. That way the butter remembers what the Marmite is supposed to do to you, but you lose the taste. This is a good thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite (A)
From: Trevor
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 05:52 AM

mike - glad the memory has lingered on, like a big jar of Marmite. Your vision of how it's made isn't too far away from the truth. the Marmite factory is in Burton on Trent, Staffordshire, which is also the home of a couple of brewerys. Burton has to be the smelliest place in the UK - when there's a brew going on at the brewery the Marmite factory is also going full blast, and you can tell from miles away. (There's also a factory on the same industrial estate which produces Elsan, a chemical which is used for keeping non-flushable bogs clean - Portapotties and the like - so when that's added to the mix, Burton is definitely somewhere not to be!)

Something else that's good I reckon is to mix Marmite with that Primula cheese that comes in a tube and then spread that on toast. Marmite and Kraft cheese sammos were my staple diet for school lunches.

Good how the telly ads for Marmite focus on the people who find it horrible - the bloke on the hot date who snogs the girl who's eaten it, or that take on 'The Blob' where people are running terrified from the dollop of Marmite.

A marmite is a casserole pot isn't it?

Lady P, tell him to keep going - it will happen eventually!

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite (A)
From: Trevor
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 06:20 AM

Oh, and by the way,

Have a look here
and here if you want some real anorak stuff.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite (A)
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 06:36 AM

Is the woman on the ilovemarmite site the AntiWindsinger ?

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite (A)
From: Trevor
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 06:49 AM

And by the way, by the way, Bovril has been veggie since 2004.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite (A)
From: number 6
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 04:35 PM

I have actually acquired a taste for marmite ... very good served on toast along with mayonnaise, tomatoes, and hot pickled peppers.

thanks for those that contributed such a positive aspect to the culinary delight of Marmite.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite (A)
From: Purple Foxx
Date: 10 Apr 06 - 04:36 PM

Pleased you like it 6.

Subject: RE: BS: Marmite (A)
From: Little Robyn
Date: 11 Apr 06 - 04:09 PM

I used to make my own marmite - you can choose the thickness/texture you prefer by adjusting the ingredients.
It's simply flaked yeast (not brewers or bakers yeast - you need the flaked, edible variety) and mix it with soy sauce.
Now, soy sauce comes in several varieties - light, dark, mushroom are most common, so experiment a little, see which flavour you like best. I personally prefer the taste of mushroom soy with my yeast, though again, the flavour can vary with different brands.
However, the flaked yeast supply in NZ has dried up!!!!
It's made in Aus and they're not sending it over. In fact, I haven't been able to get any since about August last year. I was told it would be back in supply by christmas but they didn't specify which year. In the meantime I'm having to use a powdered variety but it's rather bitter and not nearly as nice.
And yes, always spread the marmite on your toast before the butter!
Robyn