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Subject: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Robin2
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 08:01 PM

A good friend gave me a beautiful harp last year, and I'm finally finding time to learn to play.

Are there any harpers out there with words of wisdom? I belong to the harp list, but I'd love to hear from mudcatters who play, any online sheet music sites, that sort of thing.

Robin


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Leadfingers
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 08:02 PM

You talking Blues Harp,or the other sort??


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 08:09 PM

Or maybe autoharp?

Or is it an Irish harp or a Concert harp?

Stick 'harp' (without the quotes) into the filter box, and read the threads. Lots won't apply, but some will

Are you after any particular type of wisdom? (aka - what do you want to know?)


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Sorcha
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 08:09 PM

I believe the Other Sort. Helen (in Oz) and Aine (in TX, US) are both harpers. I have one but do not under any circumstances consider myself a harper.


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: alison
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 08:13 PM

I play Celtic harp...... I have tend to play most of the tunes I would play on other instruments on the harp... but the slow airs work really well....

you can hear me playing mine here

Helen is another mudcat harper...... she has all the knowledge on where to find info....


slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 08:18 PM

local catter harpmaker, builds harps, and teaches people how to play them, you can contact him via mudcat PM, or see his website at www.dolphinharps.com


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Robin2
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 09:24 PM

*blush*

I meant Celtic harp, didn't even stop to think of blues harp, autoharp, or just being a harpie.

I'd like to find more online resources for playing (sheet music, playing tips, etc), and just to find other players I can talk to about this addiction I have for the thing. (Any 12 step programs for instrument addiction?)

Any harper just want to PM and introduce themselves, I'd love it!

Thanks everyone

Robin


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Helen
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 09:28 PM

Hi Robin2,

I've probably seen you on the harplist then?? Or are you a "lurker"? Lots more people lurk and read than is obvious from the postings. It's a great resource for harp players and the folks are pretty friendly - like here at Mudcat.

There is heaps of harp-related stuff on the 'net if you do a search.

I can compile a list of my harp links but it would take a while, but if you have any particular interests at the moment let me know.

Sylvia Woods' Harp Center is a good starting place for harp sheet music and CD's. I get her catalogue sent out in the mail, over here to Oz. I ahve bought a few things from her shop over time.

So, welcome to the Mudcat community. There are a few other people here who play the *real* harp i.e. the one with strings, not the one with that gloomy person with the blues slobbering all over it (grin, duck for cover!). I'm sure that they will all pop up in here after a while.

helen


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Robin2
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 10:29 PM

Helen,

Nice to meet you! I am a total lurker on the harp list. I'm such a beginner (under a month ), I just don't feel I can add anything. And for some reason, I find it easier to post my ignorance here at Mudcat than on the harplist!

I have the Sylvia Woods info, and I've been there quite a bit...I'm teaching myself right now from "The Small Harp", by Allison Kinnaird. A lovely book, and it's got me totally hooked. Are there any online sites to download some free sheet music that you know of? I play fingernstyle guitar, hammered dulcimer, and banjo, and there are tons of sites with music for them...I just haven't found as much for the harp.


Robin


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Robin2
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 10:37 PM

Alison,

I liked your web site, but I couldn't get any of your mp3 files to play...I'll try again another time perhaps.

Robin




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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Peg
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 11:44 PM

I have a harp but don't know how to play it (it needs new strings etc. so I just pluck on it once in a while). How is that harplist?


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Susan of DT
Date: 10 Oct 02 - 04:49 AM

I too have a harp, but have not learned to play it.


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 10 Oct 02 - 04:58 AM

I play Celtic harp and concert harp, and love both. I'm in a flying rush right now so don't have time to do more than just say Hi, but I'll keep a tracer on this thread. The Harplist is great, and there are also a number of interesting harp-related URLs which I'll try to dig out when I get a minute. Where are you based?


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 10 Oct 02 - 05:15 AM

[Few minutes later] OK, OK, so I should be working. Here are some neat websites (just tried them and all the links are working):


www.harp.net (originates in Ireland)

www.clarsach.net (originates in Scotland)

www.harpspectrum.org (originates in northwest USA)

www.harpmall.com (portal site for all sorts of harp stuff)

www.harpcolumn.com (magazine, based in USA -?- I think)

www.odilia.ch (magazine, based in Switzerland -?- I think)


The harp has seen me through a lot of rough times. Glad to hear you're taking it up! Stay in touch -


All the best, Bonnie


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Hecate
Date: 10 Oct 02 - 06:55 AM

I am reassured to find I am not the only person who owns, but cannot actually play a harp.
On the plus side they are a remarkably forgiving instrument, because even with no talent at all, it is nigh on impossibel to make a truly unpleasant sound. (Compare to violins, saxophones etc.)


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 10 Oct 02 - 08:05 AM

Don't try taking your harp to a party - according to Gracie Fields, it's a waste of time.


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 10 Oct 02 - 05:30 PM

Alison nice site and nice piccies, I got your MP3s to play OK. Great stuff!!
Keep on plucking.....Giok


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: harpmaker
Date: 10 Oct 02 - 07:37 PM

Its like all the white notes on the piano.


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: harpmaker
Date: 10 Oct 02 - 07:40 PM

If you play in "C"


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Helen
Date: 10 Oct 02 - 07:45 PM

For the interest of you potential harpies: I had my first harp for about 6 years and could barely make much music with it. I had no-one else to talk to about it and knew no teachers in the area. I was afraid to just sit and play around with it - other people would sit down to it and just play glisses and pick out tunes, and that would amaze me. But also, the process of tuning it took such a long time that by the time I had tuned it up I had lost the motivation to have a go at it.

Finally in about 1986 I met and became good friends with an American woman who was living here in Oz for a few years and who had been playing for quite a while. I finally moved from not playing it to starting to finally get somewhere with it. She also introduced me to an electronic tuner - a relationship which has endured to this day, because it meant that the tuning up process was quick and easy and I could get into playing and practising with the minimum of delay.

The next breakthrough was in 1988 when a group of people I know were sitting around at a Folk Festival lamenting the fact that there were no sessions around for beginners, so we resolved that the following Tuesday evening we would start one. I kept going for 10 years, and I still wander along there every now and then.

The sessions took me from absolute beginner to being able to play accompaniment chords and arpeggios for lots of folk music. I picked up the process mainly by playing the same chords that the guitarist played (by watching the chords he played and playing the same one - it helped having learnt a bit of guitar previously) and also by following his rhythmical style which he changed for each song. He is basically a "3 chord wonder" but it helped me enormously because I could learn the basics of accompaniment by joining in to the session and using his guitar playing as a guide.

Now I am working on the process of being capable and confident (not achieved yet) at playing the melody and chords/accompaniment together. I am probably not as bad as I think I am, but it is a fairly plodding process at the moment.

I can highly recommend Lesley Nelson's Contemplator site

      Contemplator site for some wonderful harp-friendly tunes, especially the O'Carolan tunes - 17th Century Irish harper whose tunes are beautiful. Also check out Barry Taylor's tunes on that site. He makes the loveliest arrangements of tunes that I have heard on the 'Net.

If you have music notation software then you can download the midi files and then load them into the software, see the music notation as they are played, and print it out, as well as mess around with arrangements and transpose it, etc.

I use

      Noteworthy because you can try it out with a free demo and even print out with the demo version. I paid for it because it is a good basic music notation programme (usual disclaimers: no connection with company, etc) and I use it a lot for learning tunes.

Sorry, this has become a bit of a rave - but I just thought I'd share some of the things I went through to actually get to the stage of saying that I "can play" the harp.

Helen


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: black walnut
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 03:16 PM

Hi. Echoing what Bonnie-in-a-hurry said above....I saw the harp thread and I'm just poking my head through the door to say that I'm a harper too. 36 string black walnut.

Hence my name here,

~ black walnut

(I'll come back and stay for tea later!)


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Gloredhel
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 05:37 PM

I play lever and pedal harp. What's the harplist?


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: harpmaker
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 06:42 PM

Gloredhel, Go tothis site and look at the links page for the harp list. Iam after a pedal harp to renivate, anybody know of one?


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: black walnut
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 09:28 AM

Right about the harp getting lost at a party, for the most part, Dave. However, I have found that when the party starts to dwindle down in the wee hours, the harp is a most welcome change of accompaniment, and then the solo singers come out of their shells, craving a harp to back them up, and people will even sit happily back in their seats to hear a solo from the harper herself. And if that's the last music in their ears and hearts as they head home from the party, pleased be I.

~b.w.


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Robin2
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 11:01 PM

Hi again every9ne,

Been away at a festival, how great to come home and find all of these wonderful intros!

Bonnie, thanks for all of the links, I'm going to check them ASAP. I am based in Louiville KY, USA by the way.

Helen, thanks for the inspiration...I've been staring at this harp for a year, and feeling guilty that I never even tried to pick it up but once or twice...I guess the timing just has to be right, because now I can't keep my hands off of it. I have plenty of musicians to play with, but no other harpers to learn from close by.

So, does anyone have a book they can recommend, one that gave them a good start on the harp? I have mentioned "The Small Harp", by Allison Kinnaird. Are there others I should look into?

Robin


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Amos
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 11:34 PM

As an aside, it is really lovely to see so many harpistes on the 'Cat but we also have a small number of Harpies. Don't confuse the two!


A


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Robin2
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 11:39 PM

Amos,

My husband can now complain to all of friends truthfully that I harp at him all day long! :>)

Robin


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Amos
Date: 13 Oct 02 - 01:49 PM

I am sure, Robin -- but that does NOT make you a harpy! Viva la difference!! The Harpies' name derives from the ancient Greek word for robbers, and they had this nasty reputation for carrying people to hell and there tormenting and torturing them. Aello, Celaeno, and Ocypete. Terrible popele, not ones you should ever think to emulate! :>)

Harpers, on the other hand, or Harpists, as a rule, do not kidnap or torture their victims. Please tell me I am right about that???

A


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 13 Oct 02 - 08:45 PM

Hee hee hee...


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Robin2
Date: 13 Oct 02 - 09:25 PM

Does this mean I was a harpie when I was trying to learn fiddle? Everyone claimed they were in hell, and being tortured.

I'm so confused......

Robin


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Subject: RE: Any Mudcat harpers?
From: Amos
Date: 13 Oct 02 - 10:42 PM

LOL Robin!!! Certainly closer to it as a fiddler than as a harpist.

A


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