Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?

Subject: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 01:30 PM

The reason I ask this is that I had a girlfriend (for about 3 years) who became vitriollically hostile to Bob Dylan because she got the idea that I liked him better than I did her. The time came when she was correct in that assumption, actually. I did get to like Bob a lot better than her after awhile, for a variety of reasons (lying, mind-games, infidelity, drunkenness, etc...hers, I mean.).

She used to launch into tirades about me and Bob Dylan saying all kinds of obscene things about what intimate acts she supposed I was longing to do with him! (I won't repeat the language. It was extremely vulgar.)

My response to this was that she "failed to comprehend the nature of my interest in Bob Dylan". She was not amused by that, and would launch into further crude remarks regarding the hypothetical intimate private life of me and Bob.

God it was tiresome...but kind of funny, in retrospect.

In all fairness, Bob has not had the opportunity to do the sort of rotten, scummy things to me that this particular girlfriend did, so my prejudice in his favour may be a bit arbitrary, but...

Anyway, the last thing I recall saying to her about it was: "He wasn't born to make YOU happy!"

A mercifully short time later we parted company, and I am still enjoying listening to Bob as much as ever. Tough beans, Mary!

Anybody else experience this sort of domestic stress over their favourite musical performer?

- LH

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 01:35 PM

nope... not even a little bit...

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 01:53 PM

Actually Mary's better off.

She doesn't have to listen to him sing.

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: zanderfish3 (inactive)
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 01:57 PM

My wife hated Bob Dylan but she said she hated me also, which is probably why she left.

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: Peter T.
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 02:38 PM

I am always amazed at how much spouses and significant others put up with regarding the obsessions of their mates -- there should be at least some reciprocity: I like Bob Marley, you like ballet, kind of thing, where you are dragged off kicking and screaming to stuff you don't really like at all. Of course the other question is whether your obsession says something unappealing about you that your significant other didn't realize at the outset, but which now really irritates or sums up all the things he/she dislikes about you. The tough thing is when your obsessions clash -- it is much easier if you can tap into them (e.g. get a mate who loves cooking). I cannot abide having radios or TVs on all the time, and I once had a girlfriend who was alone for a number of years and got used to having the radio on as a comfort. We had a hard time adjusting, and never really did. We tussled over dials like 7 year olds over the TV.

yours,

Peter T.

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 02:58 PM

My wife may love Bob more than she loves me. For one thing, she *always* rememebers his birthday. (It's two days after hers.)

This is not a problem, since the two of them have never met.

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: Raptor
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 04:01 PM

My ex girlfriend Suzanne was jelous of all the other girls I wanted to be with and would get quite mad at me for starring at them and salivating when they'd walk by us!

She was quite unreasonable!

And your honnor that's why I killed her!

Raptor

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: Kim C
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 04:13 PM

Ummmm, let me think about that for a second.

No.

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 04:28 PM

Gee, I hope nobody is offended that this thread just happened to move down into the "BS" section...

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 05:38 PM

No, but I think he's getting sick of the Sean Connery pictures I've got around the house.......

I've made a new rule for myself. Every time he buys another melodeon, I get another picture of Sean. So far though, he's 6 melodeons ahead of me.....

LTS

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 05:42 PM

Mine says he liked Bob Dylan once.....I like quite like Bob Dylan but went 'off' him for a while whilest at uni due to a tutor who was an avid fan. We used to count how many times he would mention Bob Dylan in a Baroque music lecture!!!

Khatt

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 08:40 PM

Gee, I hope nobody is offended that this thread just happened to move down into the "BS" section...

Nah! Thanks for movin' it. I really hate havin' to dig through those boring music threads just to see if some igmo has neglected to give a choice morsel of BS its proper prefix. You jus' keep on sendin' 'em down here an' we'll keep on readin' 'em, postin' to 'em an' otherwise wastin' our time with 'em. There is no dishonor in BS!

Now, what was the topic of this thread? Oh, yeh! Something about Dylan & SO's, wasn't it? Errrr.... Let's see.... Considering that my SO likes Dylan more than I do (She likes him a little - I don't like him at all.), I guess my answer has to be errr.... Can I buy a vowel?

Bruce

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: GUEST,Russ
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 09:21 PM

If I remember correctly (not a no brainer these days) my then and still spouse had serious problems with my obsession with Judy Collins. I remember frisbee-ing a Judy Collins LP out a second story window to prove my love. It ceased to be an issue with Judy and I went in different directions musically.

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 09:41 PM

Martin - If you think Mary is better off, you have no idea how much better off I am, mister! I no longer have to cope with a TV that was on constantly, while she and her son watched shit like "Fresh Prince of Bel Aire" and anything else with mouthy black comedians and rappers committing character assassination on their entire race...her 5 hour telephone calls to her sister in Sudbury and her sister in Vancouver (she once spent $350 on a single phone call...in Canada!)...her drunken binges and mood swings from sweet to vicious...the visits from her maniac axe-killer-mentality older sister who ought to be in a padded cell somewhere...and her taste in &%^%&&MUSIC!!! She played the same collection of gospel hits by some f**king country and western guy over and over and over and over...I later found out she was trying to drive me out of my mind with it as retaliation for some figment of her imagination (She used to think I was after various other women, and I most definitely was not...at the time.). I wondered why she was doing that, cos no one could possibly have wanted to actually listen to that particular record that many times.

As for Bob Dylan, I very seldom played his music at our place. Very seldom. But she knew that I liked and respected him a whole lot. That was the only issue. Not his music itself...but that I liked him. Period. I kid you not.

Joe - No, I'm not offended. But I think about 3/4 of the music threads belong in a BS section all their own... :-)

Raptor - Yeah. Suzanne was downright dangerous. With her it was almost kill or be killed... :-) (He didn't really kill her, folks! He's funnin' witcha.)

Peter - I was dragged off "kicking and screaming" (inside, that is) by Mary to a very large number of things, including a whole series of crummy bars where I had no wish to be or to waste my time and money. I was dragged to a lot of parties too. She was intent on turning me into the cultural equivalent of Blind DRunk in Blind River. She didn't succeed, despite a valiant try. Mary felt safe around stupid, ignorant guys, cos she figured she could control them easily. Guys who wear baseball caps backwards and get drunk every weekend. She instinctively loves them, because they remind her of her misspent youth. I am not stupid, as you know. This bothered her. She figured that with a little training I could learn to love being stupid. Well, I was in love with her at the beginning, so I put up with the inane TV shows, the bar scene, and all that stuff for about 2 years. No, I'm not stupid...but I may be a bit crazy! I look back now, and wonder how I ever survived that relationship.

The song "Idiot Wind" would be the one I would dedicate to Mary..."it's a wonder that ya still know how to breathe".

And you know what, though? She was smart. She just didn't know a good way to use her intelligence, that's all.

The time when we got into the big fight over Dylan was when his 30th Anniversary show was on live TV from Madison Square Garden...and I wanted to watch it, instead of a rerun of "Three's Company". I stuck to my guns instead of just giving in like usual and watching what she wanted to watch, and she went nuts. Hell, if I'd been a "real guy" I would have wanted to watch "Three's Company", right?

What really pissed Mary off too, was that several of her most favourite musicians of all time (like Johnny Cash, Eric Clapton, John Cougar Mellencamp, and Willie Nelson) were there playing Dylan songs! Apparently they knew something she didn't.

I have never watched a concert from a foxhole before. It was a memorable experience.

- LH

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: Bill D
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 09:44 PM

all MY potential SOs get a form to fill out:

1)Have you ever heard of Bob Dylan?
2)Do you own any Dylan records/tapes/CDs, etc.?
3)Do you still play them?
4)Are you bothered by my dartboard with Bob's face on it?

...if they answer 'yes' past question 2, they are disqualified...if they answer NO to all, they get a 6 month trial...

;>)

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 09:57 PM

Yes, Bill, that's fine. The attack hamsters are on the way. Have fun till they arrive. :-)

- LH

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: Amos
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 10:16 PM

I had a pal once who latched onto a gal once, when he was young, and they married. I would visit them every few years when I was back in the country. I was greatly surprised when she took th eposition that Bob Dylan his own self was communicating to her in every song and every record jacket, between the lines -- not just sayng stuff she liked, mind you -- actually communicating to her personally and concocting a plan whereby the two of them would finally meet up and run away together. The intellectual horsepower he would have had to invest into making those songs to a hidden code that would somehow reach her in her little dingly dell int he woods is awesome to consider!!

The sad thing is that my pal actually liked Bob Dylan, but he just wasn't prepared to accept the idea that he was weaving suuch a scheme into his lyrics. I suppose it kinda goes without saying that this marriage was doomed by that time, and disintegrated not long thereafter.

I never did find out whether she finally hooked up with him according to plan or not.

A

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 10:25 PM

Hmmmm. I may have heard about that girl. There was a fanatical female fan stalking Dylan all over the place, hanging around his house(s), leaving messages painted on the windows, making death threats if he didn't accept her love, and so on. Maybe it was her!

There was a theory going around that Bob had written hundreds of songs coded with clues to his secret love for Hugh Hefner, such as...

To Be Alone With Hugh
Tonight I'll Be Staying Here With Hugh
I Want Hugh
Something There Is About Hugh
Hugh Angel Hugh

And so on...

It's obvious, isn't it?

- LH

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: Amos
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 10:27 PM

Well...not exactly. Besides, how do you know he wasn't in love with Banjoest, whose name is also Hugh?

A

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: Bill D
Date: 02 Jul 03 - 10:53 PM

attack hamsters, huh? More to power the computer!

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: stevetheORC
Date: 03 Jul 03 - 04:21 AM

Nope we both like Dylan :-)))))
As for attack Hamsters you any relation to Jh9n from hull :-)))

De Orc

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: Sam L
Date: 03 Jul 03 - 09:02 AM

Me too, we both like Dylan pretty well. She has a higher tolerance for Simon and Garfunkle than I do. I do better with later Simon. The first time she heard old Jethro Tull stuff I liked she said He gets on his little high horse sometimes doesn't he? which was annoyingly correct. And everytime I play Stormy Weather she asks why am I playing that old tune, always as if it were the first time. I like the tune, bitch. just kidding, we have our 18th anniversary this month. We can kid.

   I think J. Hendrix had a similar Dylan issue with his S/O, for a while, and wouldn't let her leave the room while a record was on, because she'd miss this part.

   I'm trying to think what enthusiasms of mine Lynne doesn't do well with. Ukulele's, she can be forgiven. Keeping an eye on popular culture generally--she can be forgiven in much the same way, but geez sometimes it's like she was raised in the Alps by wolves. My favorite "depressing" literature, short-stories, Raymond Carver--I tell her to try to read it less with an attitude of There but for the Grace of God go I, more with an attitude of See Ya See Ya, wouldn't wanna be ya.

   S/Os who don't play are often jealous of the instruments themselves, it seems to me. But I can't complain.

Subject: RE: Is your S/O jealous of Bob Dylan?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Jul 03 - 12:25 PM

That's true about the instruments. The fact is, a seriously insecure S/O is liable to become jealous of absolutely anything that their partner appears to want to spend much time or attention on...besides them. It could be golf, fishing, a guitar, old friends, needlepoint, or Bob Dylan. I think it's particularly funny when it's Bob Dylan. I mean, it's not like the man doesn't have people mad at him about enough other stuff already...

The most insecure girlfriend I ever had, though, seemed to like all the musicians I liked. She got mad instead about other women and my model airplane kits. She used to threaten to smash them all when she was really incensed (the model kits, I mean...), but she didn't really mean it, because if she had I would probably have killed her, and she knew it. Everyone has his limit.

- LH