BS: Help! Exotic vegetable

Subject: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable
From: GUEST,cookiless Lyndi-Loo
Date: 18 Nov 03 - 11:48 AM

I have been asked by a colleague if I can get English language (or Latin) names for the the following vegetables, which I believe are Asian. I know you are a knowledgable lot out there and I'm sure someone can help. The vegetables are Orara, Krala, Kurdo, Kinda, Raiya. I also had Methi, but I know know that's Fenugreek

Thanks

Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 Nov 03 - 12:21 PM

Raita is an Indian dish containing cucumber, this may be the same as Raiya.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 18 Nov 03 - 01:11 PM

given the "methi" - I've searched quite a few glossaries and cannot find any of the above words - I *did* find quite a few ingredients in languages where "methi"= fenugreek that the words could be corruptions of (Did this list come from a printed source or verbally or what?)

for example - I could see 'karela' (bitter gourd) being heard as 'krala'

Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 18 Nov 03 - 01:13 PM

What is the original language?

Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable
From: Sorcha
Date: 18 Nov 03 - 01:49 PM

Orara is broomrape (http://pi.cdfa.ca.gov/weedinfo/OROBANCH2.html)
Krala-Mee Krala (Lukewarm) 6.25
Soft rice noodle seasoned in special soy sauce, browned garlic and topped with hard boiled eggs, crushed peanuts, dried shrimp and peanut sauce.
Kerala-vegetable stew from south India

Kinda-not found
Raiya-bet this is raisa, plain yogurt with a chopped veg like spinach or cucumber in it.

I asked Google....orig. lang is probably Hindi.

Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable
From: GUEST,cookieless Lyndi-loo
Date: 18 Nov 03 - 01:51 PM

Not sure of the language. I think it may be Hindi, but could equally be Urdu or any of the others. MMario I take your point about corruptions as these languages don't use Latin script they could very well be approximate spellings. Tricky isn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Nov 03 - 01:53 PM

Thanks guys. I hear the sitars and I'm drooling at the smell of the spices!

Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 Nov 03 - 04:36 PM

Urdu and Hindi are essentially the same language (Urdu is the Pakistan version, Hindi the Indian, and they are written in different scriopts) - but if these are dishes from Kerala, the language would probably be Malayalam

Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 19 Nov 03 - 10:51 AM

Methi is specifically Fenugreek leaves as distinct from the seeds. It adds a lovely sort of caramel flavour to curries - especially dhansaks and other dishes containing lentils (dhal).

Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 19 Nov 03 - 10:53 AM

Lyndi - if you get the answers post back, won't you? I'm curious...

Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Nov 03 - 05:12 PM

here is a page which discusses Indian vegetables

and here is one more

search was in AlltheWeb.. "india vegetables methi"

Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 12:37 PM

One thing to bear in mind is that when Indians or Pakistanis write the names they use for vegetables, there is often NOT a standard English version of the spelling of the Urdu (or whichever other language or dialect they use). The same goes for culinary dishes, the same "meal" is spelled differently in every curry house you eat in (e.g. Korma /Kurma ). Until somebody takes the anglicised spellings of non-english vegetables and puts them in a dictionary, everyone will have to continue to invent their own spelling of how the pronounce the vegetable.
Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable
From: Sorcha
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 03:08 PM

MMario, didn't I post all but one????

Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 20 Nov 03 - 03:21 PM