BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: CET
Date: 13 Dec 03 - 08:48 AM

Grab:

You bet there are some good Canadian cheeses. The best come from Quebec, as far as I can tell. My favourite is Sir Laurier d'Arthabaska (of course that should be Sir Wilfrid Laurier, but that's what the cheese is called) - a soft cheese with a powerful smell, something like Munster. Put it on the sideboard to breathe for a few hours and approach with care. Lots of great goat cheese too.

I don't know what kind of Canadian cheddar you get in England, but you can get cheddar in Canada that's I would put up against cheddar from any other country. You might have to look around for it, though. Balderson's dairy in Eastern Ontario makes very good old cheddar.

In fact, if you do visit Canada and find yourself near Ottawa, P.M. me and I'll take you to a couple of great cheese shops in the Byward Market.

HuwG: can't find Reblochon or Tome de Savoie? I feel your pain. Reblochon is high on my list too. Luckily, it's easy to get at the aforesaid cheese shops in the Byward Market. I would have thought that it would be easy to find in Britain thanks to the EEC.

Edmund

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Big Tim
Date: 13 Dec 03 - 03:28 AM

Feta and halloumi are a bit tasty; allowing me to intake some salt without feeling too guilty.

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Dec 03 - 07:54 AM

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: s&r
Date: 12 Dec 03 - 07:06 AM

cheese doesn't go with wine, English or otherwise. It goes with Ale, which is only available in England

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 11 Dec 03 - 09:28 AM

Far too good for Surrey.
eric

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: ced2
Date: 10 Dec 03 - 03:53 PM

Here here, Lancashire certainly is the most cheesy place around (except maybe Sussex)!

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Eugene Judge
Date: 10 Dec 03 - 03:02 PM

Thanks to Dave the Gnome for supporting our local creamery and defending the cause for Stilton. I'm a Wensleydale fan.

Dare I suggest that "The best pudding is Bakewell?

E

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 09 Dec 03 - 08:57 PM

I know absolutely nothing about Lancashire cheese. Do they make it in Blackburn, Lancashire? Does it have holes in it? Are the holes rather small? Would it take 4,000 of them to fill the Albert Hall? Just curious.

Bruce

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 09 Dec 03 - 07:40 PM

There is a Greek Cheese - you pan fry it - tastes terrible eaten uncooked - eaten when warm with crusty outside with soft oozy centre - can't remember the name - but it rates well with any good cheese grilled on toast - of which I am also rather fond...

Robin

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: greg stephens
Date: 09 Dec 03 - 02:30 PM

I have to agree with the theme of the thread. Though many cheeses wonderful, if I had to pick one it would have to be good Lancashire. I lived in lancaster for 20 years and there was one stall in the market where I always got my cheese and it was great.
   Particularly, as has already been pointed out be several people, toasted. There is nothing to compare with toatse Lancashire(exzcept for Cheshire and Wensleydale which are just feeble imitations). Now, here is my best way for taking Lancashir cheese. I have some apple trees in the garden, old and scabby but they produce a few apples. I pick the apples, also some roese hips, and various herbs. I make apple jelly, coloured with the rose hips(or sometimes with bilberries), and flavoured with various herbs. Now if you make some nice toasted Lancashire on good thick buttery white toast, get out a few jars of the various herb jellies and have a comparative tasting....now we are talking a feast.

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: gnomad
Date: 09 Dec 03 - 01:22 PM

As an addopted Yorkshireman I have difficulty admitting that anything good can come out of Lancashire (apart from the M62) but here goes:

Yes, I love lots of different cheeses, but if the "desert island, choose just one" moment came then I'd plump for a good Lancashire.

Somewhere up the thread there was mention of English wine too, and the chance to taste it by flying B.A. I don't know what B.A. serve, so cannot comment on that aspect, but can confirm that good English wine is to be had. It is just little known, and a bit pricey, though not ridiculously so.

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: GUEST,Santa
Date: 09 Dec 03 - 09:15 AM

Yes: I wouldn't have agreed until earlier this year, when I had some creamy Lancashire in the restaurant attached to Barton Garden Centre on the A6 (The Walled Garden?) and it was superb. The only time I've ever asked for a doggy bag to take some cheese home. Made at a local farm especially for the restaurant I think, I've not seen it anywhere else. It's not Mrs. Kirkham's, though that's not too bad at all. I must go back and have some more, if only to find the name.

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: GUEST,Partridge
Date: 09 Dec 03 - 06:16 AM

My favourite cheese is Grana Pedano, which is similar to parmesan. It is sharp and gritty to taste. I like lancashire cheese on toast and grilled till just burnt. I use a good mature cheddar in cooking, for sauces and stuff.
I was lucky enough to do a lot of travelling in the last two years(because of my job) and everywhere I went I bought cheese, and ate cheese. In the East Lombardy region of Italy they eat the grana pedano with localy produced honey. I loved it.

Pat x

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: okthen
Date: 09 Dec 03 - 04:47 AM

Those whom the Gods love, love cheese.
For those whom the Gods despise, it induces migraine.

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 08 Dec 03 - 11:16 PM

HuwG

British Army cheese sounds just like the sort of food you need in those situations... :-) Personally, I think Military rations are seriously underrated - consider the alternative... :-)

I really love Feta & Spinach - in Pie (even cold!), Savoury Tart, or Filo Pastry...

I have have tasted different kinds of feta - from crumbly to creamy..

Robin

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: HuwG
Date: 08 Dec 03 - 02:40 PM

Two French cheeses which I grew to like on skiing trips, but cannot get for love nor money; Reblochon, and Tomme de Savoie.

You can see the Welsh cheese, Pant Ysgawn, at the delicatessen counter in the branch of Tesco's near me, but you can't ask for it. Not without being thrown out, as the female counter staff think that you are making offensive and improper suggestions.

To prove that the concept of "best" cheese depends on circumstance and occasion. Red Leicester is probably the best to serve melted on toast. And the British Army's "Cheese, posessed", as it was generally known, had a uniquely sharp flavour that let you know it was there in no uncertain terms; best served from the tin in a waterlogged hole in the middle of nowhere.

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Emma B
Date: 08 Dec 03 - 01:49 PM

Cheese the true food of the gods! But fairest of all blue Cheshire (well I had to say that didn't I?)
Seriously, if any of you catters are ever in Chester you must visit The Cheese Shop in Northgate - unpasturised cheeses only - (opp the Bluecoat) a must for all serious addicts; all the above available there together with many unmentioned but well worth trying.
They also sell the magnificent accompianment to cheese, membrillo or quince jelly, mentioned on a recent thread

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 08 Dec 03 - 08:57 AM

I'm inordinately fond of a lovely Shropshire blue, myself, when I can get it. Of course, Stilton also ranks quite high on the list of Nature's Wonder Foods!

D.

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Rapparee
Date: 08 Dec 03 - 08:34 AM

DtG, I knew you'd say and do what you've said and done.

F**a.

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Dec 03 - 06:58 AM

Cheddar Cheese and Strawberry Jam make a fine sandwich.

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 08 Dec 03 - 06:05 AM

I must admit that I enjoy the flavour of a mature Cheddar, but that for toasting I prefer Lancashire. I also like a good Stilton or Blue Vinnie, but probably my favourite blue cheese is french St. Agur with it's wonderful creamy flavour. I'm afraid, though, that if I had to pick a single cheese, it would would probably be Swiss Gruyere.

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 09:11 PM

Ah Rapaire!

You had soul (sole) cheese right in front of you!

Aussie "Granny Smith" apples - green skin when ripe - nice and tart to eat - go well in cooking. Baked apples!

One of the packet "meal add ons" is for devilled saugages - add them, packet, onion and apple... the apple gives a "moreish" taste due to the pectin.

Robin

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Peg
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 06:43 PM

jimmyt; leave out the onions and I like that salad, too! really good with tomatoes fresh from the garden, especially green or yellow gourmet varieties...mmmmm...makes me miss summer.

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Grab
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 06:29 PM

I'll second the vote for Grandma Singleton's Tasty Lancs. Unfortunately the rest of the stuff masquerading as "Tasty Lancs" is generally indistinguishable from Cheshire, a cheese I personally ascribe to the Cheshire inhabitants hearing the phrase "chalk and cheese" and deciding to make the latter taste the same as the former.

The consistency of GSTL (to save typing ;-) is pretty much unique - it's crumbly, but it's also soft enough to spread (kinda) on toast or biscuits. GSTL on toast is great on its own, but it's also good with peanut butter, or with honey. Possibly GSTL-lovers will say that this is sacrilege, but anyway. :-)

Incidentally, there was a very good Cheddar that Tescos had for a while but seem to have stopped selling now, which was Davidstow Extra Mature. IIRC it was an unpasteurised one, and that's definitely the best Cheddar I've had. Otherwise the normal Davidstow Mature is nice, and the McClelland Extra Strong is pretty good too if you like a more salty cheese.

Re American cheeses, I can't say for all of them, but I tried every cheese I could lay my hands on when I was over there and I couldn't find a one that was worth eating. Even the ones marked "super-sharp" are undistiguished. Some have a little bit of a "bite", but none had any real taste to them (and anyone in Britain who likes Cheddar knows the difference between "strong" and "tasty"). Clinton (or anyone else), are there any *particular* good American (or Canadian) cheeses which I should try next time I'm over?

Graham.

PS. Dave, *finally* someone else who likes cheese and malt loaf! That's a combination I found at uni, whilst me and a mate were stuck in the Peak District in a massive traffic jam at Chatsworth (due to the end of the rally there), in a blizzard, with very little food supplies. Everyone else I've mentioned this to, though, you'd think I'd suggested mixing woodlice with it!

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: GUEST,Guest .Simpsv at work.
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 03:26 PM

Thanks DTG, somewhere else where The King can be found.
It doesn't matter what you ask someone here always Knows - a wonderful site.

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 03:15 PM

Sigh...

I wish people would get their facts right when it comes to these important topics:-)

There has been a creamery at Hartington for over 130 years, producing the highest quality British Cheese. Indeed Hartington is the site of one of only very few creameries in the world which can legally produce the King of Cheeses: Stilton.

Stilton carries the equivalent of 'appellation controlee' and can be made only in the shires of Leicester, Nottingham and Derby.

A cheese-making dairy was originally opened on the site of the present Creamery in 1876 by the Duke of Devonshire. It struggled as a business venture and closed in 1895. But in 1900 Thomas Nuttall of Beeby in Leicestershire bought the building to start making Stilton cheese.

So Stilton IS made in Derbyshire!

For this and other facinationg cheese facts check out this site.

Cheers (or is it cheese?)

:D

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: GUEST,Guest. Simpsv at work
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 02:59 PM

Stilton from Derbyshire. No, Sir. It's made in the Vale of Belvoir and is therefore from Rutland or Leicestershire.

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 12:58 PM

Stop drooling on the thread Clinton. I just ate my last tart apple (Granny Smith) and there's no way I'm going to the store right now. Not without a sled and some dogs anyway. What my parents used to refer to as 'rat trap Cheddar' goes well with apple pie too. Especially my mom's version of pie that has lots more cinnamon than the conventional ones. I DO have some nice sourdough bread and some aged (in my refrigerator) cheddar and I could probably find some veggies in there that aren't pink yet. Now I'm drooling too...

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: jimmyt
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 12:54 PM

peg, I love to eat a salad of Fresh mozzerella, thin sliced tomatoes, onions and basil with garlic and olive oil. In Italy they call it a Caprese. It is the best!

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 12:39 PM

"a good extra-sharp cheddar.... with tart apples"

Well, now I gotta have BOTH!!!

:-P~~~~~~~~

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Peg
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 12:29 PM

I am not too terribly adventurous about food, and cheese is no exception. I like the milder cheeses, but a good extra-sharp cheddar has to be my favorite. A nice treat with tart apples. I also have come to love cheese on toast, that English delicacy. Thank the gods my broiler works or I'd starve. Dice up some broccoli and onions and   add herbs and saute in butter and toss that on your bread before covering it with cheese and broiling: a nice quick veggie meal. Most American cheddars (esp. Vermont and New York) are suitable to the purpose. I am very fond of Engish Farmhouse Cheddar, which one can find in better shops here.


Always remember: anything other than FRESH mozzarella is not worth using! And freshly-grated Romano, Parmesano or other hard cheeses for pasta, etc. is far superior to the pre-grated stuff. Same idea as fresh-ground coffee beans as compared to pre-ground, freeze-dried...

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 12:07 PM

Nobody has mentioned the Moon as the place to get cheese - as demonstrated by Wallace and Gromit by means of A Grand Day Out

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: jimmyt
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 12:05 PM

I have an important question regarding serving a cheese course at an upcoming holiday dinner we are hosting. NAyone who reads this, please post to my CHEESE course thread, so I won't thread drift here Thanks in advance for your help.

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 11:49 AM

I deny the existance of Rapaire. I am considering forming a breakaway religion based on the tenats of peace, love and dairy products.

Cheese eaters of the world unite. You have nothing to loose but your sylph like figures...

:D

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: GUEST,JohnJ...not a guest!
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 11:12 AM

From my experience I most heartily agree with DtG's 'league' of cheeses.

I now buy Lancashire cheese from Bury market where it is simply superb, in fact all the cheeses I've bought from there are really good.

Cheers all,

John

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 10:49 AM

I can remain silent no longer... I grew up in Wisconsin... the land of cheese and bear. (Courtesy of John9.) Every time we go out to visit my family, we go directly to the cheese factory and buy enough cheese for the Messengers and our neighbors. That same cheese, sitting in a cooler in a supermarket for weeks (or shipped overseas) is not the SAME cheese. It's a rough approximation of the cheese we get when we buy it freshly made. I imagine the same is true of the cheese we buy here in our supermarkets that is from Switzerland. It's good cheese, but surely not as good as the day it was made..

A Cheesehead

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: jimmyt
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 10:42 AM

Everyone who flies British Air has an opportunity to drink ENglish wine. It is not at the guality level of your cheese!

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 10:13 AM

ABSOLUTELY NOT, DtG. *I* have arrived, and *I* created you and everyone else, as *I* am a Solipsist. YOUR petty likes and dislikes come from *my* desires, and *I'm* getting pretty annoyed with you right now and may uncreate you.

Geez. I've eaten Roquefort right in the caves and it was outstanding. I've eaten Star Valley cheese in Star Valley and it's terrific. I've eaten Tillamock from Oregon and it's very, very good. NY white cheddar? -- great stuff. Cheese curd ("rubber cheese" from the sound it makes on your teeth) from a good cheese maker is a gift from the gods, especially if it's scooped right from the tank. Swiss, French, Italian, Irish, Canadian, Mexican -- if it's good cheese it's good cheese and anything else is rampant regionalism of the sort that has started wars.

Back in 1965 I was walking the levees along the Upper River (there is but One River) during a flood. The Red Cross brought bad coffee and cheese sandwiches. It was some sort of processed cheese slices and the slices were old -- in fact, fossils of them were later found in Montana. One chap in my group couldn't eat the cheese, so he stuck it to the bottom of his boots, walked a mile, and found that the cheese was slightly scuffed but otherwise undamaged. THAT was bad cheese.

I've mentioned the cheeses of Roquefort, but we haven't even touched on chevre or cheeses made from mare's milk. Canada, for instance, produced some chevre that is equal to anything produced by France.

DtG, my creation, I will ask you a question to which I of course already know the answer: Have you even drunk English WINE? And I mean wine made in England from grapes grown there.

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 09:03 AM

Screw you DtG.... There might be a your favourite (which matters to no one but you) but there is no BEST... It's arrogant to think so... (especially if you think it's BEST just because YOU like it)


'course it's arrogant! But not without reason. Lancashire cheese is my favourite and it does matter to everyone! I am the most important person here so my views matter more than anyone else's. What I perceive as being best, therefore, must be best! Got a problem with that?

And why bring a crappy folk music CD into an important discussion like this?

:D

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: okthen
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 08:55 AM

Matthew, I well remember Gunton's, tho' not for cheese, it was one of the two shops in Colchester that roasted its own coffee,with the wind in the right quarter you could smell it from the Odeon.I think Guntons is still there but it's been a few years since I was in aromatic proximity.Floreat Sodalitas, yeah yeah yeah.
cheers
bill

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 08:44 AM

Reading this thread makes me feel like poor Ben Gunn tortured by dreams of toasted cheese!
Didn't General De Gaulle complain of the difficulty of ruling France that it was impossible to govern a country that produced over 300 different cheeses?
Happily Britain is now approaching this level of ungovernability, after a period when unappetising blocks of processed "cheddar" seemed to be the only kind of cheese available. As with real beer there has been a revival of interest in good cheese, and some of these sites demonstrate the variety and quality now available:- Fine Cheese , Specialist Cheesemakers and Neals Yard Dairy
I will grant the outstanding virtues of a Tasty Farmhouse Lancashire, especially that made by Granny Singleton, but living as I do in Cheshire I have to favour the delightful nutty taste of a mature Cheshire made on Mrs Appleby's farm.
Bill, do you remember Gunton's in Crouch Street, Colchester? where I used to buy large 5lb farmhouse cheddars on my way home from school.

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: GUEST,Russ
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 08:23 AM

I cannot believe that no one has questioned the ridiculous claim that Lancashire is better than Stilton. Like insisting that vanilla is better than chocolate.

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 07:41 AM

Siberian beaver cheese ? no,
wensleydale ? yes sir. right I'll have some of that, no sir thats my name, Mr Wensleydale.
All hail Monty Python.
eric

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: okthen
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 07:00 AM

Here's to you DtG, it's years since I had a decent bit of Lancashire cheese. When my Mum was still able to travel and visited her sisters in Preston, she'd buy a large slab from Preston market and 'twould be blasphemy to compare it to the stuff you get in supermarkets. The best cheese now seems to come from small producers as the EEC and health & safety have legislated everything into an homogenous, bland contradiction in terms.
Wallace & Grommit should in fact be fans of Lancashire as their creator (Andy Park) was born and raised in Penwortham, just outside Preston,(next door to my Aunt)
As I say, it's been years since I had a decent bit of Lancashire cheese,(hint hint, PM for my address)
cheers
bill

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: RangerSteve
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 06:43 AM

DtG - there's nothing wrong with Gouda. As a matter of fact, there's everything right with it.

I recently bought some Swedish cheese. Now, there's a country that knows nothing about cheese. One version had juniper berries in it. It tastes like straight gin (which means that it sucks). The other cheese, flavored with Absolut Currant vodka is still in the fridge, I'm afraid to try it. Also, avoid that brown goat cheese from Sweden that's available here in the States.

I'd also steer clear of the so called "artisan" cheeses from Vermont. I have a hunk of Sage cheese in my fridge. It tastes nothing like sage, but a lot like motor oil. I've had sage cheese before, and it's really good if done right. I'll stick with Cabot when I want Vermont cheese from not on.

I also recommend Saga Danish blue.

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 05:39 AM

"some is truly awful and doesn't deserve to be even called cheese"

And no matter HOW bad YOU think it is, there's some collection of folks out there who hold it on high as their fave...

So... what value the epiteth "Best"????

There's nothing more subjective than taste...

Hell... there are situations where I think the perfect cheese is cheezewiz!

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 04:45 AM

Check out Les Barkers song, The Hard Cheese of Old England [ especialy by Martin Carthy ] The only cheese Les doesn't take the mickey out of is WENSLEYDALE, this must mean something.
eric

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Ferrara
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 04:29 AM

Well but the Wensleydale cranberry was truly bliss to eat with a slice of sweet-sour Nittany apple....

And jimmyt, thanks, I was going to say a bit about Italy (should come as no surprise to anyone.) Although I suspect my favorite Italian cheese, scamorza, is pretty much of an acquired taste (I acquired it when I was too young to know better....), like squid, which I also love, and which the over-critical might say it resembles.

Lots of other good cheeses there though. Italian Fontina is one, cacciacavallo another, never have tasted mascarpone. My family comes from around Naples, I don't know about that fancy Northern stuff.

Well here's hoping the tylenol has taken effect and I can get some sleep, have to be up at 7, and what am I doing typing into a BS thread anyway? Against my principles. Fun thread tho, but not enough varieties of opinion yet! ;-)

RF

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Little Robyn
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 04:28 AM

In 1990 were went into a supermarket in Cheddar, with a separate cheese bar so we decided to try 'the real thing'.
And there, in the middle, the biggest cheese of all....
came from New Zealand - NZ Cheddar cheese!!!
Robyn (in NZ)

Subject: RE: BS: The best cheese is Lancashire!
From: Raggytash
Date: 07 Dec 03 - 04:02 AM

Ooooooops that Guest was me, having sampled over 250 cheeses at least Clinton is misguided to say there is no bad cheese, some is truly awful and doesn't deserve to be even called cheese and as for the Wensleydale notion of putting fruit in it ........if your cheese is good in the first place it doesn't need additives and often they ruin a good cheese try Bowland for example Yuk !