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Ellenpoly 17 Mar 04 - 11:18 AM
Blackcatter 17 Mar 04 - 10:31 AM
Ellenpoly 17 Mar 04 - 04:42 AM
GUEST,The Original Guest, guest 16 Mar 04 - 09:25 PM
GUEST,guest 16 Mar 04 - 08:14 PM
GUEST 16 Mar 04 - 05:26 PM
Damon 16 Mar 04 - 03:47 PM
Peace 16 Mar 04 - 03:26 PM
Damon 16 Mar 04 - 03:01 PM
GUEST,guest 16 Mar 04 - 02:54 PM
Damon 16 Mar 04 - 02:32 PM
GUEST,Blackcatter at work 16 Mar 04 - 02:21 PM
GUEST 16 Mar 04 - 02:20 PM
Peace 16 Mar 04 - 02:03 PM
Damon 16 Mar 04 - 01:52 PM
GUEST 16 Mar 04 - 12:56 PM
Amos 16 Mar 04 - 12:54 PM
Damon 16 Mar 04 - 12:44 PM
Ellenpoly 16 Mar 04 - 04:30 AM
GUEST,the pope 16 Mar 04 - 04:19 AM
GUEST,Blackcatter 16 Mar 04 - 01:07 AM
GUEST,guest 15 Mar 04 - 11:38 PM
GUEST 15 Mar 04 - 03:39 PM
GUEST,Martin Gibson 15 Mar 04 - 12:20 PM
Peace 15 Mar 04 - 11:51 AM
GUEST,noddy 15 Mar 04 - 11:43 AM
GUEST,guest 15 Mar 04 - 01:37 AM
Peace 15 Mar 04 - 12:58 AM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 15 Mar 04 - 12:57 AM
Peace 15 Mar 04 - 12:55 AM
GUEST,guest 15 Mar 04 - 12:47 AM
GUEST 14 Mar 04 - 09:33 PM
GUEST,cautious 14 Mar 04 - 06:25 AM
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Blackcatter 13 Mar 04 - 11:24 AM
Ellenpoly 13 Mar 04 - 05:32 AM
Gurney 13 Mar 04 - 03:09 AM
Kim C 12 Mar 04 - 11:46 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 11:18 AM

Cats are interesting critters. They will often suss out the one person in the room who really doesn't like em, and then make a beeline, or a catline if you will. With women, it's kind of the other way around, at least in my humble experience. The more we're interested, the more we hang back. So blackcatter, try looking around the edges for the ones who are licking their paws and pretending they couldn't give a hoot, they may be the shy kitty you'll be just the right catnip for! Good luck! ..xx..e


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Blackcatter
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 10:31 AM

For some reason cats really like me. It's women I have trouble dealing with.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 17 Mar 04 - 04:42 AM

Ah brucie brucie I think you are missing the point about being a cat lover...I'm sure I speak for many of us ladies when I say...it's great that you love em....cats I mean...but the REAL question is...do they love you back... cats I mean...xx..e


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST,The Original Guest, guest
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 09:25 PM

This is becoming too silly for words. Neither Guest nor the last Guest, guest was me. I only came down here to chase Blackcatter who was being an ass up on the porch. Sorry about all the noise.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 08:14 PM

THANK YOU GUEST!

Yeah, that Blackcatter is an idiot. It certainly explains his dementia when it comes him actually admitting that he is Pagan! And this silliness of him being "director" of some history organization. He must be lying about that.

Thank goodness that the Mudcat is populated by fine upstanding guests, and I still don't trust the Brits. Thank goodnes they're all too anal to not become members so we can watch them carefully.

Hey Blackcatter: F-off!


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 05:26 PM

Guest guest: Re the whistle thread, yes I had no problem seeing the humour in your answer. It would be hard to find anyone with a modicum of intelligence thinking otherwise.

I also thought Blackcatter's response was uncalled for and rude. But so many of his responses are and have been for a few years now. I would imagine he should let the poster decide if he felt insulted by your reply. But that would deny him his moment of fury.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Damon
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 03:47 PM

See you round brucie- yeah, I heard the girls like it when you're into cats too, but I dont believe it.

Hello Gg, I'm not the same person you're thinking of, and you're correct about the Cornish origins.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Peace
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 03:26 PM

Danon,

I was just kiddin' to fool the girls. That's why I LIKE CATS and I want people to spread it around. I am very pleased to hear from you, and I think when you get used to the insanity here, you'll fit right in. Heck, you fit right in right now.

Later,

Bruce M


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Damon
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 03:01 PM

Hello to you too Blackcatter, and thanks, I do feel welcome!


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 02:54 PM

I believe I have just demonstrated the dangers of not being anonymous on the internet.
Thomas started the inflammatory remarks by telling me to F-off (as he has done to several others)! If he had said that to my face in a bar, I'd have punched the big sissy on the nose.               
Hi Damon, are you a different Damon from the one who asked about the Scofield mine explosion in a post from Nov 19, 1998?
I understand that the Cornish are part of the Breton/Celtic peoples and therefore I did not intend to insult them, otherwise, if they are Brits, I did!
Hi Ellenpoly, Honey, I'm home!


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Damon
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 02:32 PM

Alright brucie,

Pleasure to meet you too.I'm the odd-looking guy from Cornwall, and I like cats aswell... the word will spread, have no fear.

Alberta,that is a long way away! This is quite mind-blowing when I stop to think about it.

What a nice place this is!

damon


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST,Blackcatter at work
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 02:21 PM

Sorry - that was from me - I'm away from home most of this week and don't bother signing in.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 02:20 PM

Welcome to the Mudcat Damon. Thaniks for your comments. Hope you do feel welcome here.

Ellenpoly, you're right, I should probably ignore those kind of things, but they never get me upset - and I kind of like playing with them. I typically stop because I don't really want to hijack a thread, it's a shame I can't pm the girl or guy to take it private.

By the way - one more comment: The personal info above was not correct. But that's not surprising since there's at least 7 T., Tom or Thomas Cooks in the Orlando phonebook.

Here's the correct information.

Thomas Cook
Director
Central Florida Heritage Foundation
PO Box 533502
Orlando, FL 32853

We are in the process of putting up our new website this week, but check out our temporary home:

Central Florida Heritage Foundation

We accept donations which are tax deductible!


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Peace
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 02:03 PM

Hello, Damon,

Pleasure to meet you. I'm the good lookin' guy from Alberta, and spread the word that I LIKE CATS.

brucie


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Damon
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 01:52 PM

Thanks for the welcome Amos, much appreciated!

It's reassuring that the trolls are in a minority...this really is a remarkable and fascinating site, too good to be spoilt by a few morons I think.

I was told about this site by firstly two witches, then secondly by a parish vicar, so it does seem to have a broad appeal, to say the least!


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 12:56 PM

while I am on the Mudcat I cannot listen to Sorcha Dorcha. .SORCHA DORCHA will be at the HALF KING restaurant and pub, this Wends. Saint Patrick's Day on 23rd street between 10th and 11th Ave. from 7 pm to 10 ... As expected Lorcan Otway on vocals uilleann pipes flute whistle bodhran and the great Jane Kelton on flute whistle and key board, Seanin An Fear on Mandolin, Joe Charupakorn on guitar...


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Amos
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 12:54 PM

Damon:

Welcome aboard. The gadfly/trolling you observe is not built in -- it's brought in by people with nothing but trouble on their minds and no place to put it. The vast majority of Mudcatters are pretty decent and funny and warmhearted folk. It is just that the small minority who like to cause big waves make bigger clouds of noise than the normal individual does.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Damon
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 12:44 PM

Christ, some people round here love to fight! I only joined today and already I'm terrified to say hello in case I get jumped on from a great height.

I agree with you Ellenpoly, GUEST is def. no good..."he'd put two stones to fight" is an expression we have down here for people like him. Not a nice person!

***** I certainly didn't intend to offend the Scots, Irish and Welsh in that comment!
What about the Cornish eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 04:30 AM

Um, blackcatter, does it serve you to let someone push your buttons? Whoever GUEST is, it seems his one sole reason for lurking around the threads is to stir up trouble. He can only do that if you take the bait.

Being new here, (reading as fast as I can)I do see that a lot of discussions degenerate into arguments because there is a gadfly in the group. I know these kinds well, having married one. He could walk into a room, say a few words, and when he left with a smirk on his face, chaos had ensued in his wake.

Please please don't play the game here. Taking the high road won't leave anyone thinking you are a wuss for doing so. Certainly not me. I can only say that it will always be an unfair playing field when one person is hiding behind their armour of intentional negativity... ..xx..e


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST,the pope
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 04:19 AM

**   I tell guests to f-off when they say something inflamatory towards someone else. Also, like other members around here, I have a short fuse when it comes to guests being negative. I have been attacked numerous times at Mudcat by guests and only a few times by members. It may be unfortunate that I don't give guests much rope, but that's the way it is.

****IT WAS A JOKE - IN NO WAY INFLAMMATORY. You have a SHORT fuse and if you brain was dynamite - it wouldn't blow your hat off!

If that is your idea of a "welcoming" comment then I don't know what you would consider to be a disheartening word.

**   Once again - I don't attack those who don't say imflammatory things.

***** YES, You attack almost all "guest" postings that YOU disagree with. I invite anyone with the time to do a clicky on your "Blackcatter" posts to see what a narrow-minded and vindictive person you are.

On the Irish Whistle thread I subsequently offered a great deal of helpful advice on whistle tuning and even admitted that I play whistle.

**    I read that and thanks for doing so - that's why I only told you to f-off for your initial comment.

****Cool. But you still said F-off before any reasonable discussion was enterd. On the contrary, you DO take offence at jokes and you consistently attack those who post them.

**   When I consider them hurtful to me or someone else. I hardly consistantly attack jokesters. I'd be making hundreds of posts a day if that were the case.

**** When you yourself post such jokes you cannot maintain the high ground.

On the Blonde jokes thread, (you claim to be blond) you posted a bunch of Brunette jokes in response.

**   How is that a problem? I did so in order to say that living in a society that constantly calls blondes stupid is a pain. As a blonde I'm tired of hearing only blonde jokes. I'm also tired that most of the men on U.S. Sit-coms are idiots. When a group of people is targeted consistantly, I will often speak up.

**** You describe yourself as a BLONDE when the masculine is BLOND.

Your comments on gays show you to be a homophobe (although perhaps a closet case yourself?).

**    Sorry - not a homophobe. In fact I have officiated at over 100 gay commitment ceremonies (handfastings) as a Pagan priest. I am also a member of the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual Community Center of Orlando. I may not always say things that are politically correct. Certainly I'm not perfect, but neither is everyone who reads my comments.

**** OK Blackcatter, we are certainly getting a better idea of who you are. WHOA! You are a Pagan priest and marry gays? Cool!

You took strong offence at my whistle joke. How can a joke be anti-whistle any more than one can be anti-banjo.

**    I didn't object to your joke, just to the fact that it was the first response to a new person's honest question and you didn't bother to follow up IMMEDIATELY with the helpful advise you eventually provided. I'm sorry you have trouble seeing that.0

**** You did object to the joke because you are a whistle player. You have to get used to jokes about being a mere whisle-player.

Musicians simply enjoy giving a hard time to non-musicians such as drummers, bagpipers, banjoists and whistle players.

**    I object to you listing those as non-musician activities and I would think that many people here would agree with me.

**** You are so retentive to understand that it was also a witticism.

It's part of the game of life.

**    being bullied is "part of the game of life" for some people - should I accept that too?

**** It has nothing to do with bullying - it has to do with challenging those with whom you play music (and yourself) to do better.

I love them all and have played with them all, but that doesn't mean we have to give them respect. Respect has to be earned.

**    You must be very busy to play with them all. I agree to the respect thing, but calling someone who knows only 4 chords on the guitar a musician while someone who makes his (or her) living and has a recording contract playing the bagpipes, etc. is not, has nothing to do with respect - it is an incogruity what won't get you much respect at Mudcat.

**** I have played in Rock'n'Roll bands, Rock'n'Reel bands (with bagpiper) folk duos, folk trios, folk quartets, and solo stuff over the years and had a splendid time doing it. I play many instruments (some well, some average) including whistle and it is my experience that most whistle players have no idea of how to tune it, produce vibratto or slide on the instrument, which makes it really grinding on the ear of a real musician.   

You come across as a pompous ass (you must be a Brit)

**   Well I'm sure you now have the Brits on your side! Of course if you knew how to find my profile, you'd know what I am (but once again, you're not a member, so I'll just assume you have internet access in your prison library and aren't allowed to use cookies.

***** I certainly didn't intend to offend the Scots, Irish and Welsh in that comment! From my solitary prison cell I have enough access to know that you are Thomas Edward Cook of 1140 Audubon Pl, Olando FL, 32804-6712, Phone# (407) 841-6989 married to Deborah and your Email is blackcatter@yahoo.com or tcook@cvc.net
Isn't the internet a wonderful thing?

I can just see you mincing into those ersatz Irish pubs in Orlando with your carefully constructed little case full of whistles

**   There's an arguement for any Irish pub outside of Ireland to be "ersatz." And once again you're true colors are visible - do you think that insulting the pubs in Orlando has anything to do with me? Do you want me to attack you by saying "Your momma!"?   My whistles I carry in a drum stick bag - Someone in China put it together carefully, not I. It's also not typically full. And I'm not sure what mincing is, but I'm 6'2" and 200lbs so I'm pretty sure I don't mince. Oh - and I don't typically bring my whistles into the pubs - few of them here have any live music. I go there to drink and eat and watch football (soccer).

(with your equally padded little box of Jaw Harps

** It's not a box and it's actually much better padded. I also carry my spoons, bones and kubings in it, along with a 1961 vintage Humanatone.

**** Oh, No! Not just Jaws Harps in the very padded enclusure, but spoons and bones and kublings, Oh, My! We used to have a fellow show up to our sessions just like you! I'd bet when you show up, the local session says (under its collective breath) "Ach, here's fuckin' Thomas agin'"
(This is getting tedious - I gotta get to bed) More on Thomas next rebuttal!
But I think we are getting closer to the real Thomas in our inquiries! We may be able to out him soon.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST,Blackcatter
Date: 16 Mar 04 - 01:07 AM

Guest, Blackcatter, you are becoming so apoplectic that you are forgetting to sign in.

**    Sorry - different computer - like tonight.

I have read through your collected posts (Oh! Tedium!) on the Mudcat

**    I guess reading through 5 years worth of posts would be tedium - but guess what - I can't even do that with you since you haven't even joined up.

and am happy to note that I am not alone in being the only "guest" you have told to "F-off".

**   I tell guests to f-off when they say something inflamatory towards someone else. Also, like other members around here, I have a short fuse when it comes to guests being negative. I have been attacked numerous times at Mudcat by guests and only a few times by members. It may be unfortunate that I don't give guests much rope, but that's the way it is.

If that is your idea of a "welcoming" comment then I don't know what you would consider to be a disheartening word.

**   Once again - I don't attack those who don't say imflammatory things.

On the Irish Whistle thread I subsequently offered a great deal of helpful advice on whistle tuning and even admitted that I play whistle.

**    I read that and thanks for doing so - that's why I only told you to f-off for your initial comment.

On the contrary, you DO take offence at jokes and you consistently attack those who post them.

**   When I consider them hurtful to me or someone else. I hardly consistantly attack jokesters. I'd be making hundreds of posts a day if that were the case.

On the Blonde jokes thread, (you claim to be blond) you posted a bunch of Brunette jokes in response.

**   How is that a problem? I did so in order to say that living in a society that constantly calls blondes stupid is a pain. As a blonde I'm tired of hearing only blonde jokes. I'm also tired that most of the men on U.S. Sit-coms are idiots. When a group of people is targeted consistantly, I will often speak up.

Your comments on gays show you to be a homophobe (although perhaps a closet case yourself?).

**    Sorry - not a homophobe. In fact I have officiated at over 100 gay commitment ceremonies (handfastings) as a Pagan priest. I am also a member of the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual Community Center of Orlando. I may not always say things that are politically correct. Certainly I'm not perfect, but neither is everyone who reads my comments.

You took strong offence at my whistle joke. How can a joke be anti-whistle any more than one can be anti-banjo.

**    I didn't object to your joke, just to the fact that it was the first response to a new person's honest question and you didn't bother to follow up IMMEDIATELY with the helpful advise you eventually provided. I'm sorry you have trouble seeing that.

Musicians simply enjoy giving a hard time to non-musicians such as drummers, bagpipers, banjoists and whistle players.

**    I object to you listing those as non-musician activities and I would think that many people here would agree with me.

It's part of the game of life.

**    being bullied is "part of the game of life" for some people - should I accept that too?

I love them all and have played with them all, but that doesn't mean we have to give them respect. Respect has to be earned.

**    You must be very busy to play with them all. I agree to the respect thing, but calling someone who knows only 4 chords on the guitar a musician while someone who makes his (or her) living and has a recording contract playing the bagpipes, etc. is not, has nothing to do with respect - it is an incogruity what won't get you much respect at Mudcat.

You come across as a pompous ass (you must be a Brit)

**   Well I'm sure you now have the Brits on your side! Of course if you knew how to find my profile, you'd know what I am (but once again, you're not a member, so I'll just assume you have internet access in your prison library and aren't allowed to use cookies.

I can just see you mincing into those ersatz Irish pubs in Orlando with your carefully constructed little case full of whistles

**   There's an arguement for any Irish pub outside of Ireland to be "ersatz." And once again you're true colors are visible - do you think that insulting the pubs in Orlando has anything to do with me? Do you want me to attack you by saying "Your momma!"?   My whistles I carry in a drum stick bag - Someone in China put it together carefully, not I. It's also not typically full. And I'm not sure what mincing is, but I'm 6'2" and 200lbs so I'm pretty sure I don't mince. Oh - and I don't typically bring my whistles into the pubs - few of them here have any live music. I go there to drink and eat and watch football (soccer).

(with your equally padded little box of Jaw Harps

** It's not a box and it's actually much better padded. I also carry my spoons, bones and kubings in it, along with a 1961 vintage Humanatone.

(you use the term "Jews Harps" I note))

**   As does the Jew's Harp Guild and the North American Jews Harp Music Festival. I'm only using a term that many harpists use. I am also comfortable with the name "trump" but non-players don't typically know that name.

and some cleaning alcohol and a soft rag to shine and disinfect them all at the end. How fussy you are!

**   Yes, excuse me for spending a bit of time keeping my jews harps clean and not rusty. I have about $250 invested in them and like many people at Mudcat, I like to make sure my instruments will last a lifetime.

As for sexual humor, YOU posted one of the lewdest jokes ("How can you tell your best friend is Gay?" - I won't even give the reply!)

**   I learned that joke from a gay friend. He told it in a local gay club to a large group of people - gay, straight and bi. I like the joke - it may be lewd, but are you saying it is anti-gay? To me, it's actually making light of those individuals who won't admit that they're gay or bi and pass them off as superior "straight" people who only have lapses of gay desires. it's joking about hypocracy. - And once again - I didn't object to your "joke," (though I'm afraid I didn't find it funny, but other people would, I'm sure), I objected to the fact that it was the first posting to an honest question and you didn't IMMEDIATELY follow it up with helpful advice.

You try to project yourself as an intellectual but it seems you are just another stiff pretender.

**   I don't consider myself an intellectual but I and reasonably well educated & I am the director of the Central Florida Heritage Foundation, so I guess I've fooled a whole bunch of people.

I have posted on this site since before it was hosted on the Mudcat

**   How do I know that? You might also by the Pope for all I know.

and before people like you came around and elected themselves to "police" the area.

**   If you have a right to make comments, so do I. If I was acting like the police I might have gone running to Max or Joe - but I don't see the need. Part of the reason I told you to f-off was to let the initial poster know that IF they took your comments as being insensitive, someone else did as well (and I make no assumptions that the person did).

I continue to "Lurk" and pinprick (take that as one word or two as you will) egos as long as Max and Joe will allow.

**   Feel free - this ain't my website.

*** AND BY THE WAY: "prick, stiff, hard time . . ." Sounds like you could be a "closet-case" as well. Let me know when you find that special someone, I'll be happy to officiate at the holy union!


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 11:38 PM

Guest, Blackcatter, you are becoming so apoplectic that you are forgetting to sign in.
I have read through your collected posts (Oh! Tedium!) on the Mudcat and am happy to note that I am not alone in being the only "guest" you have told to "F-off". If that is your idea of a "welcoming" comment then I don't know what you would consider to be a disheartening word.
On the Irish Whistle thread I subsequently offered a great deal of helpful advice on whistle tuning and even admitted that I play whistle.
On the contrary, you DO take offence at jokes and you consistently attack those who post them. On the Blonde jokes thread, (you claim to be blond) you posted a bunch of Brunette jokes in response. Your comments on gays show you to be a homophobe (although perhaps a closet case yourself?). You took strong offence at my whistle joke. How can a joke be anti-whistle any more than one can be anti-banjo. Musicians simply enjoy giving a hard time to non-musicians such as drummers, bagpipers, banjoists and whistle players. It's part of the game of life. I love them all and have played with them all, but that doesn't mean we have to give them respect. Respect has to be earned.
You come across as a pompous ass (you must be a Brit) - I can just see you mincing into those ersatz Irish pubs in Orlando with your carefully constructed little case full of whistles (with your equally padded little box of Jaw Harps (you use the term "Jews Harps" I note)) and some cleaning alcohol and a soft rag to shine and disinfect them all at the end. How fussy you are!
As for sexual humor, YOU posted one of the lewdest jokes ("How can you tell your best friend is Gay?" - I won't even give the reply!)
You try to project yourself as an intellectual but it seems you are just another stiff pretender.
I have posted on this site since before it was hosted on the Mudcat and before people like you came around and elected themselves to "police" the area.
I continue to "Lurk" and pinprick (take that as one word or two as you will) egos as long as Max and Joe will allow.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 03:39 PM

In California it's "one swallow does not a summer make" because of the swallows that return each summer to the town and mission of San Juan Capistrano. There's always a few "early birds," but the mass of them arrive mostly all together.

**************************************

And GUEST,guest - leave it to you to head straight toward childish sexual humor.

As for the whistle thread, I wasn't implying that it was good or even bad advice. What I felt, and still feel, is that your comments could have made the initiator of the thread think that they were not welcome at Mudcat. To some your comments were funny, I suppose, but to me they could easily be construed as anti-whistle playing and anti-whistle players. I've been around here enough to not take things like that personally, but newcomers might not. And even though the next words in the thread were my F-off to you, I followed it up with helpful advice and a useful link. If you had done that, I wouldn't have commented, but you did not.

I assume that Max and Joe and most of the long-time Mudcatters hope this to be a place where newcommers feel welcome. If I'm wrong in this assumption, I'm sure the powers that be will let me know. But I was made for feel welcome here 5 years ago when I asked my first question and made my first comments.

Of course, as long as Max & Joe, etal, allow you to do it, you have the right to act however you wish at Mudcat.

As for going on a bit - that's what most of us are here for. Hense the concet of a discussion board.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 12:20 PM

Guest, noddy

No shit!


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Peace
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 11:51 AM

The expression was "One robin doth not a spring make", but I had been 'cattin' around with jOhn, and he's crazier than Spaw and Little Hawk (maybe not combined), and I got the adage all screwed up.

Two swallows in summer. Twice as good.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 11:43 AM

you can sign in as a nom de plume and insult/annoy/generate discussion/say inane things/act daft/generaly be another person and noone knows who you are and have a good time doing it....


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 01:37 AM

Hey Brucie - now you Do have a sense of humor but you lost me on the robin thing - wasn't it something about a swallow in Summer? (Cum to think of it - is there anything better than a swallow in Summer?)


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Peace
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 12:58 AM

One F***Off doth not a robin make in spring (or something like that).


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 12:57 AM

GUEST-your mother sells whelks in Hull.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Peace
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 12:55 AM

On the bright side, people have short memories.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 15 Mar 04 - 12:47 AM

Jeez, Blackcatter - you do go on a bit. May I remind you of the sequence on the Irish Whistle thread.
The question was "How do you tune an Irish Whistle" to which I (humorously I thought) replied "Put it on a grinder and it will get sharp, hit it with a hammer and it will go flat!" Your reply to me was "F*** Off!" which I considered somewhat unkind.   
By suggesting that anyone would think that was good advice, act on it and "destroy" their whistle, you insult whistle players everywhere by implying that they are a pretty stupid bunch.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 09:33 PM

Dear cautious:

You cad! You have knocked me up, virtually. You with your whispers and wiles. How, now, can I return to my spouse. You told me you'd show me a time like none I had ever seen, and you did. Now, one of us is with child. I did respect you in the morning, but alas, I was gone. So, am I knocked up, or is it you? Please place an ad on this thread when you find out. The rabbit has died.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST,cautious
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 06:25 AM

Dear sympathy coloumn

what don't i like about mudcat.
out in the other world, i am cautious about personal involvements. very cautious.

i have met someone here that i have been flirting with heavily in the chat room - he has a v funny sense of humour which hooked me right in. how did this happen and what have i gotten myself into?

will he still respect me in the morning?

signed

outwardly restrained
virtually uncontrollable


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Mar 04 - 06:19 AM


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Peace
Date: 13 Mar 04 - 03:13 PM

LOL, Amos.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Blackcatter
Date: 13 Mar 04 - 11:24 AM

I aske who Shatner was early on in the thread and NOBODY resonded. Clearly it was a stupid remark.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 13 Mar 04 - 05:32 AM

I'm pretty sure Deckman was kidding when he said he didn't know who Willaim Shatner is...at least I HOPE so, I mean this could be the end of a beautiful friendship DM Bob!!

And, are we all going to dance around the ALL TIME GREATEST HOMOEROTIC SCENE ever produced during "The Wrath of Khan" between our beloved James Tiberius Kirk, and sexy dying Mr Spock?? OMG(dess)!!xx..e


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Gurney
Date: 13 Mar 04 - 03:09 AM

The only thing that burns me is when I can't get on it in my limited Etime. Comes of living in the first place in the world, I suspect.
I can live with the occasional visiing idiot and resident temporary grump, "let he who is without sin ...."


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Kim C
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 11:46 PM

Nekulurny?


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Amos
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 11:14 PM

We REAL men in Canada look up to William Shatner.

Two oxyorons don't make a moron, Brucie -- but they do come awful close!!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Peace
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 06:44 PM

We REAL men in Canada look up to William Shatner. It is he after whom we fashion ourselves. True, we often receive abusive statements from our friends south of 54-40, but we always write that off as jealousy prompted by envy. Yes, you Americans have Arnie, Jesse, and sundry other political figures who could bend cars for breakfast, but we have William. Never mind mad cow disease, soft-wood lumber and SARs. You want trouble with us, just mention that Shatner isn't in tip-top shape anymore. Mention that he can't act. Say things like that and we will simply beam him up and completely collapse the entire culture of the whole USA in one fell swoop. So back off, or we bring him home.
What comes next is a private message to Little Hawk, so please stop reading now. Thank you. If you said, "You're welcome," you didn't stop reading where you were so politely asked to. Let's try it again. Stop now.


Hey, LH, I think our friends are getting nervous about Bill. I think we have to tone down the rhetoric just a tad. They don't yet perceive him to be the next President of the United States. We'll get Bush to change the Constitution so that Canadians who have commanded the Enterprise can become the Chief Executive, whether they were born in the USA or not. Bill may be hard to sell on this because it'll be a step backward for him, but if he's gonna be the NWO head dictator, we gotta start somewhere. We have lotsa work to do. The Americans are so nekulurny when it comes to truly great actors. Later, Bruce M


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST,Casual Observer
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 03:15 PM

What I don't like about Mudcat is the people who claim to be so liberal and tolerant and loving, but only toward other self-proclaimed liberal tolerant people. The bouts of name-calling are disturbing. Yeah, I understand about free speech and all that, but wrong speech makes for bad medicine and negative energy. It is entirely possible to be critical of world leaders, or anyone else for that matter, in an intelligent manner, instead of resorting to ridicule.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 01:12 PM

shame the new meds haven't helped LH, isn't it? And we had such high hopes for dried frog!


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Amos
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 01:02 PM

He's a creampuff with a silhouette remarkably similar to the Michelin Man./..

A


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 12:51 PM

Deckman doesn't know who William Shatner is???? Shocking!

William Shatner played (and is) Captain Kirk on the historic show "Star Trek" in the late 60's. He became a sci-fi icon of immeasurable stature. He then recorded the most unique treatments of certain popular songs (Mr Tambourine Man, Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds, etc) ever heard! He went on to star in T.J.Hooker...well, maybe we should just forget about that....

He did guest appearances in many TV shows and movies over the years, always demonstrating that unique quality that is all his own, and has remained unmatched by any other actor or singer.

He does very funny TV commercials.

He starred in a whole series of Star Trek movies. "The Wrath of Khan" was one of the most popular of those, and featured the death of Spock, the famous Vulcan first officer, and Shatner's best friend offscreen. Spock was played by Leonard Nimoy. Nimoy has also recorded some music. It can't match Shatner, except for one cut "The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins". That one is almost unbelievable. You gotta hear it!

Shatner is also a sex symbol of unparallelled power. Some people don't see it. They are only to be pitied.

Go to his site, Deckman! Look up williamshatner.com and find out even more!

Did I mention that he's Canadian? What a guy!

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Blackcatter
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 12:15 PM

Sometimes I do contribute nothing but a hopefully funny remark, but I try to never have be negative. I got mad at "Guest,guest" on the tin whistle thread because he was the first poster and made comments that bluntly suggested that the question asker destroy their whistles. To me that was inapproprate and I said so.

Sometimes it's comments like that that drive newbies away and that's unfortunate.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Allan C.
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 12:15 PM

Ellenpoly, lots of threads become receptacles for statements of opinions, sans discussion. In such threads, although most folks might have read the previous postings, it is far more important to them to try to put into words their own thoughts on the subject. I see the merit in these and have posted to my share of them; but I do prefer the threads that lean more toward dialog.

kat, it was Mikal who wore the long, black duster.

I, too, miss "the good old days" at times. I think a lot of what was great about those times was the way in which we were so focussed on the subject of the thread. If it was about a song, we researched and discussed it. If it was meant to be funny, we were hilarious. There were so few of us back then and a lot fewer threads from which to choose. I can't recall for certain, but I believe I remember a time when the total number of threads on the forum page might have been sixteen. As a result, many of us posted to nearly all of them! Thus, we became a rather close knit bunch. Then, when we actually began to meet one another in the 3D world, the connections were even more solid. That has been one of my favorite aspects of the Mudcat.

I continue to love the Mudcat. It has given me much more than I can possibly tell you. I don't like that the "good old days" are gone; but I do like that the Mudcat has been able to change with the times and that there are still so many wonderful people here, both new and shall we say, "seasoned"? I am always in favor of new friendships and feel I discover them regularly, even now.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: el ted
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 11:58 AM

What I don't like is other buggers pinching the hundredth post when they rightfully mine


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 12 Mar 04 - 10:43 AM

Just thought I'd say that one of the reasons that I and many other catters often make light-hearted posts on some some threads, is that we've already made our serious comments, but want to keep the thread alive and posting "refresh" always seem a bit tame.


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Subject: RE: BS: What I don't like about Mudcat
From: Strick
Date: 11 Mar 04 - 09:33 PM

"Who's William Shatner? Bob"

An infamous popsinger. Check out his work here.

William Shatner Sings

(should I have include some kind of hazardwarning? this is priceless)


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