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Subject: Tech: D.T. Copy and paste From: Fergie Date: 09 Mar 04 - 05:50 PM I am having some problems with my pc. When I find a song in the DT and highlight what I want and then hit copy everything goes as normal until I then try to paste into a Word document or Notepad at this point there is no paste option available to me. Have I somehow upset my setting? how can I fix it? I know that one of the Mudcat tekkie folkies can help me to solve this annoying problem. Fergus |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: Stilly River Sage Date: 09 Mar 04 - 06:00 PM It makes a difference what browser you're using, what version, and what the person who set up the web page has programed in. They can set it up so your cut and paste features (the right click type) don't work. Then you have to use the old fashioned way. If you don't see the cut and paste box, hightlight the material to copy, then use the commands Control C (copy) and when you're in the document where you want to place it, activate the cursor there and then Control V (paste) If you want to copy the whole thing, then select it by doing Control A (select All) There are lots of ways to capture the information. You can print it and scan it into OCR software. You can drop it into an image file. You can save the web page as a file on your computer (the images won't always be saved, but the text should be). I'm sure John in Kansas will follow along behind me and provide another 24 inches of text on how to do all of this. :) SRS |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: Stilly River Sage Date: 09 Mar 04 - 06:03 PM Rereading, I see you're in the DT, where it isn't set up to block anyone. Use the Control C and Control V until you figure out what isn't working right. If this is the first time it has happened, try rebooting. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: wysiwyg Date: 09 Mar 04 - 06:24 PM Or highlight and then drag and drop. Also, if you do not already have the Word doc open when you do COPY, it will not usuallly stay on the clipboard till you open a new doc to paste it into, and thus you would not be able to PASTE. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: MMario Date: 09 Mar 04 - 07:49 PM and occasionally - you have to clear the cache on your browser in order to get copy/paste to work from a web site. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: JohnInKansas Date: 10 Mar 04 - 12:30 AM I'd go with WYSIWYG on this one, that you need to open Word (or whatever program you plan to paste in) before you copy, since sometimes opening a new program will "dump" the clipboard. Then you won't get a "Paste" option because there's nothing there to be pasted. Whether that happens depends a lot on how much free memory you've got on your machine. I have had that problem on a couple of previous machines, but have never seen it on the current ones (all at least 256 MB RAM). The other side of it is, you can lose what's in the clipboard if you close the program you copied from before you paste. Some programs assume that if you're done with the program you're done with what's in the clipboard, and will clear it when they shut down. This isn't supposed to be "Windows Compliant" behaviour, but might happen with some browsers. (Minimizing the program window shouldn't do anything to the clipboard content.) 19 inches to go???? John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: Rasener Date: 10 Mar 04 - 01:33 AM You lucky boy :-) |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: Wilfried Schaum Date: 10 Mar 04 - 03:01 AM Another way I prefer as the more comfortable when copying a song from DT: File > Save Page as ... (*.htm) Open the page with Word and save it as Word document, delete everything you don't need. The link "Click to play" is still saved in the document. What baffles me is that you should have to open Word before copying to the clipboard. In my machine the clipboard is independent from the different programs. Best advice I found here is the bracket grip: CTRL+ALT+DEL and reboot. This advice is also propagated by the helpful guys of our University Computing Center. Wilfried |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: JohnInKansas Date: 10 Mar 04 - 09:42 AM Wilfried - In most situations opening Word - or any other program - with stuff in the clipboard shouldn't lose what's there. When programs open, though, they splatter new temp files all over the place, and if you're short of RAM and/or temp resources on the drive, the newly opened program may (try to) push something else out. The clip board is "expendable" first, since overwriting anything else might cause another program to dump. The other possibility that comes to mind is that no "target" for what to copy is selected. I'd assume that to "copy from DT" a portion of text has been selected/highlighted before the "copy" instruction(?). Hitting "C" before you get the Ctl key down can "unselect" the text you're trying to copy... If the "Paste" option isn't there, it generally means there's nothing in the clipboard. Either it didn't get there to begin with, or it got dumped on the way to where you tried to paste it. John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: Jim Dixon Date: 10 Mar 04 - 11:04 AM When I paste into Word, I always use the Edit/Paste Special option from the standard menu, and then select either "Unformatted Text" or "Unformatted Unicode Text." (I haven't figured out what the difference is; they seem to do the same thing.) That way I don't get any unwanted graphics or formatting. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: GUEST Date: 10 Mar 04 - 11:28 AM Many (parhaps all) versions of Windows come with a clipboard viewer. Using such a tool should help in some of the speculation as to where the problem may lie. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: HuwG Date: 10 Mar 04 - 11:47 AM Jim Dixon>, normal text is encoded as one byte (8 digits) of binary code. This allows only 255 characters in a given character set, some of which are reserved (e.g. 0x08 is the "tab" character etc). This doesn't allow for the all the combinations of letter and accent, and special punctuation marks to be found in all Western European scripts, and is hopelessly inadequate for many non-Western European languages or character sets (e.g. kanji, katakana, etc). Unicode characters are encoded as one word (2 bytes). This allows for 65535 possible characters in a given character set. The values 0x0000 to 0x00ff (all right, 0 to 255) in a Unicode character set are usually reserved for the corresponding ASCII values, so for most copy and paste operations from normal displayed text, there is no difference as far as the user is concerned. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: Fergie Date: 10 Mar 04 - 05:09 PM I have tried the suggested solutions (thanks everybody for your interest) but I have had no luck. The problem seems to be my internet settings, I can't copy and paste anything from the internet, any suggestions? Fergus |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: JohnInKansas Date: 10 Mar 04 - 05:41 PM It's possible your browser security/privacy settings are set too high, and are blocking you(?). I've never gone to the "paranoid" level settings on purpose, so don't have direct experience there. If you have loaded browser updates recently, some of the recent ones (especially for IE) have changed the "meaning" of the various security/privacy levels. Fewer things are permitted than previously for each given setting. If you were using a fairly "secure" level, you may have been kicked up to something more restrictive than you want. In IE, look in Tools - Internet Options, at the "Security" and "Privacy" tabs. You could try lower levels - you can always set it back if it doesn't help. (If you haven't downloaded browser updates recently - especially for IE - you should do so, soon. Even if you don't use IE, it's an integral part of Windows, and needs to be kept up to date to keep the hackers at arms length.) If you have more than one browser, you need a clear setting for which one is the default. If you have two of them competing to be "the main one" they can get in each other's way. If you've changed anything in the AntiVirus realm, you may have an accidental setting that's blocking copy as a "download," or just taking so long to scan and give permission that the clipboard doesn't get filled. All just guesses - but the places where I'd poke around first, unless someone comes up with something. John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: JohnInKansas Date: 12 Mar 04 - 03:50 AM Fergie - Hopefully you've found your answer. The only things that relate to what you describe, that I can find so far, at Mickey'$ Knowledge Base both are cited as pertaining only to Win95/98 and/or IE before ver 5.5. If you haven't solved the problem, let us know what op system and browser you're using - maybe it would help come up with something. Q195163: Cannot Change Temporary Internet Files Cache Size. Corrupt folder for History, Cookies, or Temporary Internet Files may cause space allowed for Temp Int Files to be set to ZERO and normal reset fails. Applies only to Win95/Win98 and IE5.5 and earlier. Fix is to to delete the folders and let them be rebuilt when you reboot, but you will probably have to boot DOS to do the delete. Instructions are at the linked article (and also a mention that you can export your cookies before you do it - although in typical Mickey$oft fashion it says nothing about putting them back after you've done it). If your temp file space has locked at zero, you probably won't be able to copy anything from the web. "Copy" doesn't actually copy from what's "on the web." It copies from the Internet Temp file that downloads to your machine. If the "temp" is small enough, it may fit in RAM to display, but when you click the "copy" command, it has to "make a second copy" which usually means it must have room to write to disk. The second possibility is that: "Using a web page containing frames for your "desktop" picture can cause any of several Windows functions to fail." Breakdown of the Copy/Paste isn't specifically mentioned, but reference is made to "erratic failure of plug-ins and utilities" that might well include those functions. This again is cited as applying only to Win95/98, but unlike the first one above it doesn't say "doesn't apply to other versions" - it's just a very old paper from before the "other systems" existed. If you're not using Win95/98, probably neither of these would apply; and of course if you haven't changed your "wallpaper" the second one can be dismissed. Very puzzling... John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 Mar 04 - 12:00 PM See? I knew he had it in him! ;-> |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: Bill D Date: 12 Mar 04 - 12:44 PM I have had this problem a few times, and couldn't figure out what was happening..I 'thought' I had copied, but nothing happened. I finally decided it was simply that I hadn't managed to do the copy...perhaps because I had hit some key and lost 'focus' (was not in the window I thought I was) or because hadn't actually HIT the copy command correctly... I usually try some other copy/paste trials in some other place until it seems ok again....sometimes you just never know.. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: GUEST,Maurice Date: 12 Mar 04 - 01:18 PM Try to paste into "notepad"...that often works more easily than the more feature-heavy word processers. otherwise, open the clipboard viewer and convert to another format...that has worked for me but I can't remember the details. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: Stilly River Sage Date: 12 Mar 04 - 01:32 PM Pasting to notepad strips out a lot of the formatting stuff that will be in the way in other applications. It's an easy place to work, and nice for stashing stuff until you need it. RE losing stuff from one program to another: When I am closing down programs my Windows program often pops up and asks if I want to keep what I saved to the clipboard for other applications. SRS |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: Bill D Date: 12 Mar 04 - 01:47 PM have any of you ever used the various "extended clipboards" that are available? They allow multiple items on the clipboard, and allow you to choos which to paste...and many more features... I use one called "ClipMate" that is one of the few $$$ware programs I have, but there are free ones too...the best known is Yankee Clipper It might help sort out stuff you want to keep 'up there' for regular pasting. |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: JohnInKansas Date: 12 Mar 04 - 03:05 PM Bill D - Word, since about ver 6.0 at least, has a little device called the "spike," that allows you to clip multiple items "on the spike" and then paste them all or one at a time in various places in documents. I never used it much because I found it confusing that stuff came off the spike in reverse order - i.e. LIFO, or Last In First Out. Latest Windows Office applications (i.e. XP and 2K) will pop up a "clip board history" that allows you to pick any of the last few "copies" when you get ready to paste. In Word, if you have anything in the clipboard, you should be able to just "paste" - or use the "Paste Special" (Alt-E,S) to paste in any of several formats. I use it a lot to paste web stuff as "unformatted text" in order to strip out all the junk. Curiously, in most Excel versions, if you use Ctl-C to copy, "paste special" is unavailable. You have to use the formal "Edit, Copy" to be able to choose what to paste (data, format, formulas, etc.). Fergie's problem appears to be that nothing is getting into the clipboard. He has posted to a couple of other threads since his last entry here, so it's apparently not just PMS-F (progressive massive system failure). The last couple of suggestions are pretty much "long shots," but there's not much else to offer without knowing more about what programs are involved. If you right click a link on a web page and select "Copy link," when you paste into Word you get the "plain text" URL (http:// etc). If you right click on a link and "Copy link" in something that's already pasted into Word, when you paste, you get a "duplicate clicky." You have to choose "Edit Link" and copy the URL from the "edit box" if you want the text of the URL. (Anyone got a simpler method?) I do find it convenient occasionally to paste something, with the clickies included, so that I can go through "off the web" and read/convert the clickies to URLs for record purposes. When you're done converting, you can convert links to plain text with Ctl-Shift-F9 - the "unlink fields" quick-key. I did find a reminder of something I encountered some time ago. A few versions of Win95 (depending on updates) and other OS when connecting through some specific early NT servers, will copy all images as .bmp - regardless of the format on the source. You will rarely get a .bmp instead of what you expect if the image download "hangs" and isn't complete when you try to save it. Usually the solution is just to "refresh" and make sure that the image finishes loading. If you know that you have one of the "susceptible systems," you can usually work around it by finding a link to the image, right clicking, and selecting a "save target as," and get the "real" .jpg or .gif that's posted. You can often save images from sites that "disable copying" (e.g. the San Fransico Museum of Fine Arts - but don't tell them) using the same method. John |
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Subject: RE: Tech: Copy and paste From: andi Date: 12 Mar 04 - 06:57 PM I had somethig similar a while back it was the msblast virus try this fix fix blast.exe |
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