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GUEST 05 May 04 - 08:12 PM
Sttaw Legend 06 May 04 - 07:42 AM
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Subject: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: GUEST
Date: 05 May 04 - 08:12 PM

I am about to purchase an acoustic amp. I just thought it may help a bit if I could get some advise here. I will be playing it professionaly. I have a nice Taylor guitar. I want a clean & warm sound. Any Tips? Thanks!


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 06 May 04 - 07:42 AM

I have been looking recently, amps highly recommended by other musicians are Marshall AS100D, and the AER acoustic range, have not had chance to try them myself as yet. Would be interested in views please on the Marshall and AER range or any other recommendations.


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: Willie-O
Date: 06 May 04 - 07:46 AM

I am very happy with a Peavey E-Coustic 112. 2-channels, 1 XLR input, 5-band EQ on each channel, can set for either passive or active pickups so you don't need a preamp.

And in the same price range, ($500-900 Cdn) sounded a LOT better than the Fender Acoustasonic.

It is somewhat larger and heavier than a number of good ones that I have tried though, Trace Elliott and Crate come to mind. Those ones are nice inasmuch as the whole amp with speaker looks like the head of a traditional guitar amp...but the sound is very good. You can set those ones up on a table to be at a convenient height to broadcast through a room--can't really do that with the E-coustic.
It stays on the floor although I'm planning on building a low stand for it.


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: michaelr
Date: 06 May 04 - 02:28 PM

Roland has a very compact, good-sounding new unit, the AC 60 Chorus. It's a 2-channel amp with mic/line inputs. (30 watts x2)

Fishman just debuted the Loudbox which is a single-channel, 250 watt acoustic amp with lots of features.

Cheers,
Michael


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 06 May 04 - 02:40 PM

The marshall is absolutely excellent. the digital effects are okay but hard to access onstage - tiny little divisions printing on the dial, You really need a separate effects unit. But it goes beautifully quietly to the main desk from the line outputs on the back.
Amy Wadge uses one the AERs. They are twice the price of the Marshall and they sounded very good - she seemed to be using it as an onstage monitor. However she was doing nothing fancy with it as far as I could see - no weird effects or midi interfaces.

before I had the 100watt marshall I had the 50 watt and that seemed pretty dire - okay for really small folk clubs but the strings had a sort of clonking quality when you sent it to the PA. However they would probably say that was user error. I don't think you will make so many errors with the more expensive model - at least I don't!

all the best


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: C-flat
Date: 06 May 04 - 04:18 PM

I've been using the AER compact60 for a couple of years now and I reckon they're the best accoustic amp by some distance. Lots of power, very portable and crystal clear sound.


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: C-flat
Date: 06 May 04 - 04:47 PM

I should add that the AER has some built in effects to add sparkle and prescence and also has a "vocal" channel if you wanted to do a small gig with a single mic' and guitar.
It can be mounted on a mic'stand but as I use mine as part of a bigger band set-up I use the "line-out" into the P.A. and keep the AER just behind me to monitor with.
The "Compact 60" model I have retails at around £550.
Hope that's of some help but in the end it's a very subjective issue and I suppose your own ears will be the best judge so you may need to visit a large, well stocked retailer to try them out side by side.


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 May 04 - 05:01 PM

Love my Crate acoustic. Two inputs (one 1/4" instrument & one vocal XLR). Not the digital effects version but the cheaper analog one.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: PennyBlack
Date: 06 May 04 - 06:08 PM

We'll go with the AER range - the sweetest acoustic amp we could find.

PB


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: GUEST,Willie-O
Date: 06 May 04 - 06:14 PM

Never heard of AER, is it a British make? I think Guest is in the States with a Taylor...or where? as always geographic reality checks are needed!


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: PennyBlack
Date: 06 May 04 - 06:33 PM

AER

Germany Company I believe with worldwide distribution been around a "few" years.

PB


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: mooman
Date: 06 May 04 - 07:02 PM

AER (German) and Ashdown (British) are both top notch but also top price. I personally do not care for the Marshall which is also heavy. The Peavey is good but (sorry WYSIWYG!) I'm not keen on the Crate. The Fender sounds nice but is big compared with the others. The Fishman Loudbox is new and seems good (and is very powerful). Ultrasound and the Strawberry Blond are also excellent and are Stateside-built.

Shoreline Acoustic Music in California seem to do good prices on the AER and Ultrasound and I often use them for stuff (even from Belgium) as they are knowledgeable, friendly and efficient.

After trying nearly everything, I personally opted for a pair of 65W Laney (British-built) LA65A acoustic amplifiers. Small, but not as small as the AER and Ashdown, excellent transparent sound and less than half the price of either of the aforementioned. The Laney has a good chorus and "passable" reverb (I use a Boss pedal if I need it) and decent equalization and will take a line in and a mic on separate channels simultaneously (as will the AER).

Laney website (go to products and then acoustic for details)

Hope this is of some use.

Peace

moo


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: s6k
Date: 07 May 04 - 10:12 AM

Fender amps are damn good with their clean sound


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: Willie-O
Date: 07 May 04 - 10:19 AM

Where's Guest? Is all our wisdom being spilled on barren ground?

I've seen and tried the Laneys--it delivered a good sound at a good price, but the guy in the store, not being a real slick sales type, said they'd had a fair number of returns for defective, at least on the earlier models. Hope they're better now, how long have you been using yours, Moo? And do you run the pair of them separate or patch them together to get a full sound?


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: GUEST, Hamish
Date: 07 May 04 - 10:55 AM

I love my AERs. I've used a single Compact 60 on its own for guitar+vox and it's fine; and I've used two with a Behringer mixer for pub open mics and they've been great. Used by many of the top guitarists, too. Eric Roche, Preston Reed being two I've seen/heard recently.

And they're small and light. I used them at a small out-door festival gig recently, and the duo who were going to follow me said "That's travelling light", but decided to use mine rather than reset with their own macho stuff.

Dunno about the new Roland - but I've had a bad report of them. I thought it sounded interesting, what with its automatic feedback-zapping circuitry (it finds the offending frequency and puts in a notch filter, I think) but the sound's not so good. Allegedly.


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: Wesley S
Date: 07 May 04 - 11:09 AM

I've got the Crate with the digital effect and I think it's a darn good amp for the money. It's all I need. I like the Strawberry Blonde a little better but I really didn't want to spend the extra money for something I wasn't going to use that often.

This is a little off topic but we're going to using a new PA tonight that is just flat amazing. Made by Bose { no financial interest here } and they run around 2,000 for each stack. Clean sound and as hard as I tried I could NOT get these suckers to feed back. It was SO nice to hear everyone in the group - not just the guy standing next to you. And we set these up with the speakers behind us so there is no need for monitors. Here's a link - I hope it works.

http://www.bose.com/controller;jsessionid=Abj6lNXjYcBq7Thwg9ZFO2lU7NoYIX2ZltDDwlXCf8Tu40HVElRB!-1648024829?event=VIEW_STATIC_PAGE_EVENT&url=/musicians/index.jsp&linksource=centernav_img_musicians&pageName=/index_2.jsp


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: GUEST
Date: 07 May 04 - 05:16 PM

I have the Marshall AS100D and it is excellent, I use it for guitars, fiddle and vocals. It has DI for use through PA which allows you to use it as monitor. It has various effects not that I've used them to the full extent but they are very good. My friend has AER gear and he swears by it, I've not used it but it sound good.


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: Mooh
Date: 08 May 04 - 06:36 AM

I'd go with the Fishman, though a friend has a Behringer which can sound decent with a little tweaking. He also plays a Taylor through it. I've heard the AER and it's very good.

Much depends on the degree of preamp use, type of pickup, and so on.
I'm back to using a pa, though another dedicated acoustic amp is in the near future.

Good Luck, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: mooman
Date: 08 May 04 - 07:41 AM

Dear Willie-O,

I've had the Laneys for about a year and a half and no problems at all. Sometimes I run them separately, one for me on instruments and one for Lady McMoo on vocals, sometimes patched (as they have both mic and instrument channels) if more punch is needed, depending on the venue or if I'm with the full band rather than the duo or trio. Sometimes patched also to a Behringer BX 600 bass combo if more lower end is needed and sometimes as a stereo pair. So quite versatile for my needs and they were an economical solution too. Feedback resistance is good too although I occasionally use a Behringer Shark feedback destroyer unit if needed.

All the best

Peace

moo


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: GUEST
Date: 09 May 04 - 02:22 AM

Marshall AER and Laney all very good. Currently have Marshall 100, it's very versatile and the sound very clean.


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 09 May 04 - 05:22 AM

Anybody tried Carlsbro amps? They are a sensible price. Look at their web site for specs. The AER is very popular. How does it sound with Violin (acoustic and electric) through it,
and what basic effects would benifit a violin?


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: mooman
Date: 09 May 04 - 01:37 PM

Yes...the Carlsboro acoustic amp range is also not bad at all....especially for the price.

A friend of mine uses his violin through an AER 60 with very decent results.

Peace

moo


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: dwditty
Date: 09 May 04 - 01:49 PM

UltraSound Amps have been at or near the top of the charts for years. Before you buy, though, I would suggest heading to Guitar Center with your own guitar ans plugging in to the Bose PAS. It may be more than you are willing to spend, but the sound is amazing.

dw


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: Hand-Pulled Boy
Date: 14 May 04 - 05:16 AM

I've seen two of the world's most popular guitarists in Martin Taylor and Tommy Emmanuel and they both use AER amps. The AER website shows a whole range of amps for differing situations which indicates that this is their speciality area. Plus you've got that renowned German engineering and quality. It's just a shame they bombed my granny in the war!


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Subject: RE: Acoustic Amps, Tips on the best sounding
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 14 May 04 - 06:02 AM

"and what basic effects would benifit a violin?"

... a razor blade?


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