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Subject: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 10 Mar 05 - 09:44 PM Okay, Im gonna' keep it simple this time around... So like the P-Vine decides that we need a house cleaner a couple times a month and says she'll pay fir this lady to come in and clean out house every other week... Well, fine. Right? Ahhhh, not so quick... LIke Paul Harvey used to say, "Now fir the rest of the story": So come the night before the cleanin' lady is to come to clean the P-Vine got me scrubbin' this and cleaning that??? Like, ahhhh, ain't that what the cleanin' lady is 'sposed to do? Yup, I gotta clean my entire bathroom so the cleanoing lady can, ahhhh, clean it??? Like what am I missing here??? This has to be a womanz thing that I don't have a clue about and since I have been good... No, make that very good about not introducin' no womenz threads since way back in '04... ahhhhh, yeah, like whats up with you womenz? Like what's this all about? Heck, why not just pay the cleaning lady not to come and clean out allready cleaned stuff??? Yup, that's my 1st womanz question of the New Year and I'm certainly looking forward to see ya' all wiggle outta this one... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: CarolC Date: 10 Mar 05 - 09:52 PM It's not just the P-Vine this time. A lot of people do that. I don't have any idea why. I also have no idea whether or not I would do something like that myself because I've never had anyone clean my house for me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: CarolC Date: 10 Mar 05 - 09:56 PM Hey Bobert! I have an idea. You can pay someone to come clean my place, and afterwards I'll let you know whether or not I cleaned it before she showed up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: CarolC Date: 10 Mar 05 - 09:58 PM Oh yeah... if you want, you can also pay me to not clean up your place too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 10 Mar 05 - 10:03 PM Hmmmmm, CarolC? First of all, I think that if I sent you money for a cleanin' lady you'd spend on accordian sheet music.... Ahhhh, maybe yer first comment is closer to my "1st Womaenz Question of '05" in that you admit that a lot of people might clean up for the cleaning lady... Well, Iz here to tell ya that, ahhhhh, *men won't*... See, this again is one of them wiring issues where a man hires a cleaning lady/person to clean and a woman goes and does the cleaning before the cleanin' lady/person get a chance to do it... Like, ahhhhh, whats the point? Whad I miss in school here? Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: CarolC Date: 10 Mar 05 - 10:08 PM I bet a lot of gay men and some guys in the air force (and maybe the coast guard) would clean for the cleaning lady. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 10 Mar 05 - 10:25 PM Like what are you tryin' to say??? Ol' Bobert ain't Coast Guardish enuff???? 'Er what.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Ebbie Date: 10 Mar 05 - 10:50 PM I agree- it appears to be a blip in women's riggin' that tells them not to let anyone see the house as it normally is! But that's just for the first time. The next time the cleaning lady comes, she will have to maintain it as she found it last time. See? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Gypsy Date: 10 Mar 05 - 10:52 PM Not me..........o' course, i clean AFTER guests leave, cuz they tend to mess up me house. t'enny rate, ya wanna send me a cleaning lady? where do i sign up! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: heric Date: 10 Mar 05 - 10:59 PM Yes, Carol, the experts agree with you. In fact my cleaning lady told me last week that a guy I know, who she works for, she suspects to be gay because his house is fastidiously clean. She harbors no such suspicions about me. (Even though I TRY to clean before she gets here.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 10 Mar 05 - 11:00 PM Thanks, ebbie.... See. womanz, you all got the bad wiring and even one of yer own has come to the forefront and admitted it... Ahhhhh, life is good... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bill D Date: 10 Mar 05 - 11:05 PM In order for a cleaning woman to clean, she'd have to be able to get TO things, and have places to put what's in the way OF getting to things. Not in MY house! The only way I can clean is to have some idea where everything I stacked away really is, so I can find it again after the need for cleaning abates. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Helen Date: 10 Mar 05 - 11:08 PM Umm, yes, I started paying a friend of mine to clean my house, starting a couple of months ago. I do clear up stuff before she arrives so that she has a clear run on *cleaning* the house. Difference between "clearing up" and "cleaning". If (as there normally is) there is a heap of stuff all over the kitchen benches and dining table then I would have to pay for the cleaning lady to clear all the crap away and *then* start cleaning, so I'd be paying the same amount but getting half the cleaning done for the price. See, perfectly logical! Apart from that, it's a motivator to clear stuff out of the way knowing that she is coming to clean, instead of me just procrastinating and saying I'll do it tomorrow or next week and always finding better things to do instead. And, yes, it's also a thing about being embarrassed to let people see how bad my housekeeping skills are, although my hubby is probably worse than even me. Helen |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: CarolC Date: 10 Mar 05 - 11:22 PM There you go, Bobert. heric at least tries, even though he's not even gay, in the air force, or the coast guard. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: mg Date: 10 Mar 05 - 11:35 PM I think you shouldn't have to clean up the whole house, but I would give the toilet a quick scrub just on general principals... mg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 10 Mar 05 - 11:51 PM Okay, I'll admit that "pickin' up" is in order but once the stuff is picked up, why do I get ordered back to clean my bathroom??? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Mar 05 - 12:04 AM When I was in graduate school and working I has a friend give me the name of the Dynamo who cleaned for her every week. I couldn't afford every week or even a full day, so arranged for her to come over every other week and simply work on the baseline items. But in order to do that, as BillD and Helen have noted, she needed to get to the areas needing cleaning. She wasn't hired to pick up after my children or me. My list was simple, and she worked down it and stopped when she reached four hours. We left notes for each other, and sometimes I was home when she was there working, and I had to remind myself not to distract her (she did not fit the image of the "typical" cleaning woman in any way--she was a single mom who cleaned houses so she could set her hours and have the time she needed with her kids, and we enjoyed sharing stories about our kids). She ususually looked like she'd just come in from a game of golf or tennis, fit and tan and in great shape, and her "uniform" was shorts, t-shirt, and sneakers. My list was something like this: Clean the kitchen (surfaces, sweep and mop floor) Clean the bathrooms (surfaces, sweep and mop floor) Vacuum carpeted areas That actually didn't take that long, so other tasks filled in, like cleaning windows, cleaning the mini-blinds, and sometimes things like ironing. And I know there were other things that I've forgotten about now. She did yard work, was great at putting up wallpaper, etc. Though she worked a few hours a week for Merry Maids, she worked for several people on the side. I paid $10 an hour, for about 8 hours a month, so I was a small client, and if she needed to come a different day because something bigger came along, I figured that was fair, and she never left me in the lurch. Alas, my talented Candace suffered a massive stroke about four years ago (she was only 49) due to an undetected change in her blood pressure. She was badly injured by that event and now lives in a nursing home. It was very sad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Troll Date: 11 Mar 05 - 12:34 AM Tidy people are just too damn lazy to look for things. troll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: heric Date: 11 Mar 05 - 12:40 AM Troll? The voice of reason re-emerges. . . . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: dianavan Date: 11 Mar 05 - 01:35 AM Good timing, Bobert. I just called the cleaning lady for Sunday which means I have to spend all day Saturday picking-up and putting away. The cleaning lady can't do that because then I wouldn't know where anything was. Besides that, I hire her to do the actual cleaning. I can't seem to get both jobs done on my own. Of course if I put things away after I used them, then I would have a tidy place and would have time to do the actual cleaning. But your post begs the question, do you pay for half the cost of the cleaning? If you don't, maybe thats why you have to clean your own bathroom. Its the least you can do :>) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: MBSLynne Date: 11 Mar 05 - 03:42 AM I admit that if I could afford such a luxury as a cleaning lady it would spur me, initially, into having a massive house clean. I agree with Helen...my main reason for this, I think, is that I would be mortified for any one (in fact, and other WOMAN, if it comes down to it) to see how mucky my house is behind things and under things. If I left my house as it is for someone to come and clean I'd feel such a slut....I think it is a woman thing, which brings me to the interesting question...has anyone EVER heard of a cleaning man?? Love Lynne |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: John MacKenzie Date: 11 Mar 05 - 05:29 AM I expect the 'gay burgler' joke will come up any minute now. Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 11 Mar 05 - 07:24 AM There are things that have a specific place where they're supposed to be. Nevermind that they spend 99% of their time someplace else. When you clean up, you know exactly where they go. Then when you get ready to drag them out and leave them on the coffee table for another six weeks you know where to find them. Why you don't just consider the coffee table their "home" instead of that nook in the bookshelf where they "belong" but rarely actually are is just one of those mysteries of human nature. There's no way a stranger could ever deduce the correct place to put those types of things, and no way you'd ever find them if they were put in the wrong place. So, if you ever want to see them again, you have to put them where they "belong". Then, when the cleaning person leaves, you can put them back on the coffee table. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: RichM Date: 11 Mar 05 - 07:58 AM Bobert, I feel your pain. I am the stay-at-home househusband with a cleaning lady who visits for 3 hours every two weeks. I had to learn to 'tidy up' before her work visits. It come down to putting away my musical toys and clothes, clearing the floors and counters so she can actually clean them. I was reluctant to get this service, but I must admit my cleaning standards had been going downhill for several years, as my heart problems gradually worsened.(things are much better in that respect, with the help of several stents). Now I like having the help of wonderful Angela. I don't even mind the pre-tidying! You'll feel the same way soon. Rich |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: harpgirl Date: 11 Mar 05 - 08:37 AM Bobert you dumb sh*t, the answer is so obvious even a stupid hillbilly like you could figure it out. Nah, I guess not. She made you clean your bathroom because it is not fair for the cleaning lady to have to use a flame thrower to clean out your sh*tter! Now do you get it, you dumb hillbilly???? AWWWWW>>>Just funnin.......... love, harpgirl |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bill D Date: 11 Mar 05 - 10:11 AM re: a cleaning man. Yes, I knew one man who did cleaning...also did general child care. He was sort of a house 'manager' for a family for awhile. I, personally, have considered doing cleaning for extra income, but my woodworking business did well enough that I avoided having to travel and deal with other folks stuff. I am reall pretty good at cleaning when I bother. There is no part of housework that I can't or won't do....I just don't always choose to some parts for myself on a regular basis. I do toilet scrubbing, stove and oven cleaning, serious vacuuming, floor mopping, laundry...(though, I must confess, I hate folding...)....why, I even do windows. Now...if I could just find time to do all those things on some sort of regular schedule. But that would eat into my Mudcat time! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Mar 05 - 10:33 AM My ex was always the tidy one in our relationship. I should hire him to come clean. Finding stuff put away by him wouldn't be any more difficult than finding things "put away" by the kids when I lean on them to help out around here. You'd think that because they live in a place they'd know where at least the kitchen stuff goes. Nope. And of course I don't realize a thing has been misplaced until I make a quick grab for it in a drawer or cupboard and find air. I have a couple of friends who have done cleaning on the side from their regular employment, on evenings and weekends. It's a regular job, it helps pay the bills, and usually you can work with a couple of others to get the job done pretty quickly and companionably. Were I to take on that job, I'd be sure to get bonded. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Layah Date: 11 Mar 05 - 11:26 AM I understand tidying before a cleaning lady cleans so she can do the annoying stuff like vacuuming and cleaning bathrooms and things, and I don't mind picking stuff up. Plus while I myself have never had a cleaning lady, I have heard stories from relatives who do, in California most often cleaning ladies speak little or no English, so communication is rather difficult. My uncle had a cleaning lady who would throw away anything that wasn't put away. He had to go through the garbage after she left. He once found in the garbage his plane tickets, some other important papers, and an unopened jar of pickles. Going through the trash sounds like more work than just cleaning myself. What I really don't understand is why people wash their dishes before they put them in the dishwasher. Isn't that what the dishwasher is for? And it's not like the dishwasher is going to think badly of your cleaning skills if you give it dirty dishes. (I wouldn't ever worry about what a cleaning lady thinks of my cleaning skills. What do I care what she thinks?) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: wysiwyg Date: 11 Mar 05 - 12:48 PM I ran a housecleaning service, and I have had help from friends and services with routine, extreme, and fire-recovery cleaning. For me the bottom line, if I am paying-- how can I get the biggest bang for my buck? If I can get in there ahead of whoever is helping me achieve a clean house, they can spend their time on the clock doing what I could not do. I do not look at it as a job to delegate as much as a job I need help with. The best was the fire-recovery cleaners, even beyond the insurance paying for it. I was a room ahead of them each night, filling up trash bags and organizing where I wanted stuff to be. On the insurance, they are required to clean every item present, but they do not sort, decorate, or organize. They have to wipe each piece of paper, for instance, and put it right back where it was. They said a lot of people are so freaked out after a fire that they get very anal-retentive about their stuff, even their trash. Well, I used their unexpected assistance to de-clutter what had been left after the kids moved out. I did the sorting and trashing, but they happily toted out fill trash bags, and deep-cleaned what was left. I do the parts I can do and enjoy knowing that with the help, the rest will actually get done for a change, too. When I ran a service, we expected stuff to at least be picked up and made vacuum-ready-- don't make the help to clean up after you, but pay them properly to clean for you. Make it easy to get at surfaces if you want the surfaces cleaned. (Put out trays they can use to remove a shelf-full of accessories at a time, too.) And if you pay someone to clean a house that is a filthy mess-- don't be surprised if their work only elevates it to a lower standard than you might have hoped for. If it's a sh*thole when they arrive, they figure you don't really care or won't notice how it turns out. Finally, if you are paying-- make it really clear exactly what you want, and what products you want used where-- and be prepared to pay for the time for them to actually do it well. Yours may be just one of several homes they are cleaning that day-- you don't think people can actually live on what you pay for your house's cleaning, do you? So they will tend not to clean as fast as you might in a blitz to get done and get on with your day-- they will pace themselves, and rightly, so that they can do a good job and still be physically able to do more than one home. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Mar 05 - 12:48 PM You have hit on a common and hilarious phenomenon this time, Bobert...women who are so insecure about the impression they make on everybody else in the World that they do things like hire a cleaner, but then they get insecure about the place looking "messy", so they clean it up before the cleaner gets there! LOL! They have then established a benchmark for "acceptably clean" in their own minds and will be forced to make sure that the house is always THAT clean again before the cleaning lady comes the next time. Whether the cleaning lady takes any note of this is a moot point, but she WILL be obliged to get the place generally even cleaner than it was when she arrived, otherwise she'd be failing to do her job, so you can be sure that when she leaves that place will be...CLEAN!!! So, there is method in this madness. As follows... 1. The lady of the house has decided that she needs a little help to keep up on the cleaning. Fine.... 2. She hires that help...fine... 3. She now gets hit with the horrid thought that the help may get the idea that she has a MESSY place! This gives her additional motivation to get moving and CLEAN IT UP, which she figures she ought to have done anyway. Her hidden guilt feelings over not cleaning enough are somewhat eased now. All well and good. 4. She rushes around and gets the place clean enough to be acceptable for a cleaning lady. She also badgers her husband into helping, because time is running out! Hopefully, the cleaning lady will be impressed by their efforts, and won't go all over town afterward to the bingo halls and places like that saying stuff life, "My God, you should SEE the inside of Lucinda Baxter's house...WHAT a hideous mess! It took me 8 hours of scrubbing before I could even catch my breath! Horrifying! The woman lives in absolute squalor!" No...that will not happen. If it did, Mrs Baxter would be forced to go on tranquilizers or move to a new town and start over. 5. Mrs Baxter can now take comfort in the fact that the load has been taken off somewhat by the cleaning lady, and she has more time and motivation to spare for cleaning than she did before she hired the cleaning lady. She also has that sort of upscale feeling now of having a cleaning lady, which is sort of upper-class when you think about it. One can talk to one's friends about the marvelous job the cleaning lady is doing, and why don't they get one? Or one can bitch about the fact that the cleaning lady missed dusting the artificial flowers. Whatever. It makes for good conversation over coffee and cake. 6. The cleaning lady is enable to make a living. This is good. 7. End Result: Mrs Baxter does more cleaning than she would have done if she had not hired the cleaning lady, and so does her husband! This is good for both of them. It strengthens the marriage. :-) The cleaning lady earns money. This is also good. The house gets so frickin' clean that you could eat your scrambled eggs off the floor! Whether this is good or not is debatable, depending on your viewpoint. I think it's possible for a place to be TOO clean, but that's just my way of seeing it. I had a girlfriend who was a cleaning lady for a few years. We used to go together and clean the houses on her schedule. I usually vacuumed. Most of those houses were owned by insecure women who made sure to clean them before we got there...and that made the work pretty easy. One, however...one was owned by someone who didn't give a damn. This lady couldn't care less whether people knew she lived in a pigsty, and the house was a disaster. There were several caged birds, and the place was full of discarded birdseed. Everywhere. It was also full of toys and other stuff scattered all over the place. Cleaning it was a challenge you could really get your teeth into, and it was sort of enjoyable for that reason. Whoever that woman was, she did not suffer from the common insecurities that seem to beset most females. Reading the comic strip "Kathy" can probably help with gaining some insight into what is going on inside many insecure females' heads. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Kim C Date: 11 Mar 05 - 01:19 PM Bobert, does she also wash the dishes before she puts them in the dishwasher? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: GUEST,Cathy G. Date: 11 Mar 05 - 01:19 PM That's "Cathy", Little Hawk! Please do not mispell the name of the greatest comic strip in history. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Rustic Rebel Date: 11 Mar 05 - 01:27 PM I pity the poor person who would ever come to clean my house. I have too much shit and it's everywhere. My walls are full, my floors are full (of animal hair and straw every damn day!), My shelves are full. Yes, I pity the person, but I wouldn't clean beforehand. Unfortunately I would never have a housekeeper unless I'm too old and feeble to do it myself. This thing about being insecure Little Hawk, you might be right about that, but I would be like the challenging women. If I can afford to pay for it, they're going to clean it! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Tannywheeler Date: 11 Mar 05 - 01:33 PM Eyedunnoh. Why bother? Next month you just have to do it all over again. Like Bill D. says -- starts eating into the important stuff, like Mudcat time. Tw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: GUEST,MMario Date: 11 Mar 05 - 01:34 PM well - I clean the kitchen before our cleaning lady comes - because otherwise she spends her time in the kitchen and doesn't get anything else done (depite repeated instructions that the kitchen is the LAST thing she is to tackle - only if she has time) Guess the sight of a dirty dish offends her or something. (Not that she *DOES* the dishes - just restacks them in the sinks and the dish strainer. Yup - she rearranges the dishes in the drying rack. Why I don't know.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: GUEST,leeneia Date: 11 Mar 05 - 01:36 PM Little Hawk, I would not rush to make comments about women's insecurity before actually seeing Bobert's bathroom. It could be that asking an outsider to clean it would violate the Geneva Convention. As for washing the dishes before putting them in the dishwasher, there are two factors at work here. Long ago, it was necessary to rinse them very well before putting them in, and some people cling to this. The other factor is that there are certain foods that the dishwasher doesn't deal with very well. Rice, for example. If find that if there are grains of rice on the food, the dishwasher pulverizes them and sprays them back on to the dishes, where they stick and stay. The dishwasher is also not good at removing cheese or egg yolk. Just in general, we find that if we give the dishes a very quick swish, we can use the "water miser" cycle which saves a considerable amount of water, time, and electricity. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: GUEST,mg Date: 11 Mar 05 - 01:38 PM I had a cleaning man, just once, but what a great idea. I am a slob, and there is a woman thing about having other women know what a slob you are. He just had knee surgery but I hope he will come back after recovery...I just don't get stuff clean like a professional would...but I would tidy up and clean up anything truly gross ahead of time. mg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Mar 05 - 01:42 PM Yes, I did mispell it. Pardon me. I just went and looked it up on Google and perused the last couple of week's episodes of "Cathy". I see that the idiot has gone and done the absolute WORST thing she could possibly have done, and married her off-again-on-again boyfriend, Irving! AAAAAAAAACK! I predict many years of depressing marital discord, followed by a messy divorce. Two things you should know, Cathy... 1. It doesn't matter how you spell her name, she's still a ditz. 2. Liberty Meadows is the greatest comic strip in history. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: GUEST,MMario Date: 11 Mar 05 - 01:46 PM my family finds it excruciatingly funny that I *WAS* a professional housecleaner for several years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Ferrara Date: 11 Mar 05 - 01:48 PM Bobert, I just have one question: Just exactly how dirty was that bathroom anyway? I suspect that "Before," "After Bobert's Cleanup," & "After the Cleaning Woman's Visit" photos might clear up this mystery.... Maybe Eve doesn't mind the cleaning lady seeing what her house is really like, but does mind anybody seeing what Eve's husband is really like.... I suspect I would make our college-age kid clean his bathroom before the cleaning lady came, too. (Whiskers all over the sink.... Grrrrummpppphhh) Rita F |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: PoppaGator Date: 11 Mar 05 - 02:04 PM Why would any of you assume that Bobert's bathroom would be especially nasty? He does live with a woman, or so we've been led to believe, so I think we should assume that their home is at least minimally civilized. I think we've have established two things that we should all be able to agree upon: 1) Some preparation before the cleaning lady visits is usually in order, and is often necessary to take maximum advantage of that person's services; and 2) Many wimminz go way overboard with said preparation. I am very proud to report that my lovely wife Peggy engages the services of a professional housecleaner once every two weeks, and lets the woman deal with our mess with little or no "pre-cleaning." Of course, it has taken years for this relationship to develop. Eunice is almost "family" ~ well, extended-family anyway ~ and has come to serve an important function as psychological counselor, not just as sanitary engineer. Her byword, good advice for all situations, is "Don't fret your nerves!" For some reason, Peggy is more likely to heed this admonition when it comes from mother-figure Eunice; when I tell her not to worry about this or that, she doesn't always listen. PS: I rinse the dishes before putting them in the dishwasher (usually), but do not wash them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Mar 05 - 02:07 PM I've spent the morning working in my office, and part of that time has been to clear out some space to file some new materials. Getting rid of paper in order to stash paper. I can't imagine anyone else making sense of my papers, or figuring out what I'd want to keep. The result would be useful stuff thrown away or a general stack that makes no sense. So if I had a cleaning person coming through to do floors, dust, etc., here and now, I'd still expect to handle my own papers. There are so many reasons why someone hiring a cleaner would still go ahead and sort and clean ahead of time. As Susan and others remark, it's sharing the work with someone, and having them do the part that requires the least instruction but is still labor intensive. It makes sense to divide the labor according to who will do what job best. This discussion of hired cleaners shouldn't be confused with those who have households and full-time employees to regularly maintain the people living there. I haven't a clue as to who would decide what goes where under that circumstance. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: wysiwyg Date: 11 Mar 05 - 02:12 PM The house we rent has a lousy dishwasher. I soak and pre-wash before loading because I want clean dishes, tho it is handy for them to get sanitized, rinsed and dried off in there. Also our farm water is pretty lousy, so it's not a good surfectant for dried-on stuff, and with only two in the household it's unusual to dirty up a whole load in one day. Who cares if some women go a little overboard? If it results in a clean house, who cares how one gets there? I gotta tell you-- if I were the P-Vine, I'd be really hurt if I knew I was being portrayed this way in a public forum (or two) among people I'd not even met. Bobert, dear friend-- these threads are.... well, I think you might not want to do any more of them! Next time you have a womanz problem at home-- just get as close as allowed and tell her you love her to pieces, and believe me, any confusion will clear up pretty fast! ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: PoppaGator Date: 11 Mar 05 - 02:25 PM Bobert cares that he is asked to "go overboard." If P-Vine did the terlet-scrubbing herself, he'd be bemused but not nearly so irritated. I hope our little discussion is not going to cause dissention in their household. This kind of battle-of-the-sexes quibbling is a part of human existence that will probably never change, and provides fodder for an amusing and even occasionally enlightening exchange of observations. As long as no one takes it too personally, that is. I have just one final question: what's so gay about the Air Force and the Coast Guard? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Ebbie Date: 11 Mar 05 - 03:01 PM Little Hawk, your suggestion that women are "insecure" is rather broad. (Let's not go into the things that men are insecure about.) If I am paying a cleaner it doesn't make sense that s/he should spend the energy and my money on going through or gathering my papers or in picking up toys. The money I am paying is for cleaning. I don't call that insecurity at all. As for a bathroom, it is not a bad idea to swish the toilet brush around or to soak cruddy areas before you expose someone else to that stuff. That means daily attention to that kind of thing. Cleaning a bathroom on the other hand, imo, is spraying and polishing up hard surfaces while also deodorizing and disinfecting. A bathroom should sparkle. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: wysiwyg Date: 11 Mar 05 - 03:49 PM But Bobert doesn't ask, "How come men do what women want when they don't understand why" or "how come I can't figger out my wonderful wife." He lays the problem elsewhere and pokes fun. I've been in their house, OK, and I have this image of the P-Vine going about her day elsewhere in the house while Bobert's holed up in a little room making fun of her, and since I'm a friend of hers, and since this ain't the first such thread-- I've come to think it's kinda shitty. Say it's P-Vine at her first Getaway, and somebody nudges her knowingly and starts up about the damn bathroom.... and all of a sudden she realizes Bobert's made her out to be a fool. So, yeah, I've come to think it's kinda shitty. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: GUEST,MMario Date: 11 Mar 05 - 03:51 PM hey! It's the 'Y" chromosome - we can't help it! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Helen Date: 11 Mar 05 - 04:43 PM I have a very useful book written by a man: Don Aslett, Is there life after housework. It has really useful and clever ideas for saving time and being more effective and efficient in cleaning the house. I also have a sign in a frame on my mantlepiece which says "Dull women have immaculate houses" which means for me that there is more to life than housework, only I have taken it to a slightly more extreme level than normal. On the subject of men and cleaning, though, I heard a quote which I have been testing out by observation for some time, and it seems to hold fairly true in my experience: "(A lot of) men expect to be thanked for doing housework because they consider it to be 'helping out' their wives/partners". In other words, a lot of men still have the (mistaken) idea that housework is the sole responsibility of women. (I welcome your comments on this, everyone.) :-) The reason I am paying a housecleaner is that I recognise my natural inclination to do anything but housework, and my other natural inclination to collect clutter, especially paper-based clutter. Also, for the last 10 years I have been financially stressed to the max, but now, finally we both have well-paying work and I want my house in some sort of order, and I really need to use my house-cleaning energies on sorting and getting rid of excess stuff so paying a cleaner helps me with achieving the bigger goal of "getting my house in order" physically and mentally/psychologically. PoppaGator said "He does live with a woman.......so I think we should assume that their home is at least minimally civilized." My hubby lives with me but the two of us are, by nature, just about the worst housekeepers I've ever met. Well no, I take that back, I have seen worse, but I mean within the statistically normal range. WYSIWYG, I think that Bobert was passing a general comment on what he sees as the "illogicality" of women, but he is respecting P-Vine by asking this as a gently humourous question. He's not bitching, in my observation. Since my friend started cleaning up for me I can't find lots of the things in boxes she stacked in the corner of my office, but I am gradually sorting them and chucking stuff out. What I have wanted to do for years and didn't have time o motivation. I had a cleaner about 20 years ago who used to chuck things in the garbage. It took me a while to realise I had to sort through the garbage after I left. The worst thing she chucked out was one sleeve of a dress I was fixing. Why just one sleeve? And my carefully handwritten recipes. It was a communication problem because my flatmate was the go-between. I chucked her out not long after that because she was deliberately stirring up trouble among my friends and I suspect she was doing that with the cleaner too. Rita/Ferrara - what is is about whiskers all over the sink? Why does my hubby trim his beard and leave it all over the sink, clogging up the drain hole? I just don't get that at all. Helen |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Mar 05 - 04:45 PM Yes, Ebbie, I was engaging in sweeping generalizations, no doubt...it could be that I was just "stirring the pot" a bit, given my particularly twisted sense of humour. :-) And I would like to add that it was quite insensitive on your part to use the word "broad" in a discussion about women. Let's just watch it, eh? (grin) I agree that bathrooms are best kept nice and shiny clean. I think it is plainly evident from Bobert's frequent postings about the P-Vine that he loves her dearly...and likes to play the part of the "uncomprehending male" mostly just for laughs. Ain't that so, Bobert? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Mar 05 - 05:08 PM Helen, as a man who has lived alone quite a bit over the years, I certainly do not expect anyone else to be doing my housework... :-) Matter of fact, I take housework for granted. It beats cleaning out the eavestroughs or or fixing the car. It's one of life's more enjoyable routine tasks, I think. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Helen Date: 11 Mar 05 - 05:54 PM Yes, well, Little Hawk, I thought my hubby, who lived alone for a couple of decades or so, was a bit more housework-aware than most guys, but living with a female seems to flip a certain, hard to find (even with a scalpel and a do-it-yourself brain surgery manual) switch in the male brain marked "I am responsible for housework". ;-> He does do turn-about on the cooking, mow the lawn and put out the garbage, though. But hasn't installed the new kitchen tap we bought a couple of years ago or the new bathroom door. Helen |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Ebbie Date: 11 Mar 05 - 06:09 PM Little Hawk, I wish I could say that I used 'broad' tongue in cheek but sad to say, I hadn't even noticed. And I think it is very insensitive of you to jibe (gibe?) at me. :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bill D Date: 11 Mar 05 - 06:26 PM (jibe wins the Google search count...at LEAST you didn't say 'jive', as I have heard several times!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Mar 05 - 06:35 PM We should chip in and split the cost of doing an insensitivity training course, Ebbie. :-) Helen, I do not doubt for a moment that that switch goes off in a lot of men's heads when they move in with a female. I figure it's time for you to get tough about that kitchen tap and the bathroom door... :-) One has to take a stand on such matters or they may never get done. I lived with a girl once who couldn't even boil an egg. (not that she didn't try...) She lacked experience in a number of key areas. I ended up doing a lot of cooking during that relationship. Eventually she did get fairly good at it by observing what I did and following the example. One thing I'll say...one has more motivation to cook when one is cooking for others, as well as oneself. This living alone can lead to minimalizing things like food preparation to the point where one hardly bothers. Children are great teachers for parents when it comes to stuff like that. They force one to rise to the occasion and overcome one's innate laziness. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Ebbie Date: 11 Mar 05 - 06:45 PM "We should chip in and split the cost of doing an insensitivity training course, Ebbie. :-)" No, no, Little Hawk. That's the part we're already good at. :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 11 Mar 05 - 06:56 PM Well, well, well... The P-Vine and I have been gone all day and so come home and, gol danged! Heck of a ffod fight I done started here... Gonna take more than one cleaningh lady nexr week... Now, Susan... I loves ya' to pieces but whereas you might think that ol' Bobert being purdey "sh*tty" and maybe I is... Sniff... But id din't mean no harm... I promise... I love the P-Vine to even more peces than I loves you... Sniff... I sho do... But, yeah, I kinda thing LH and Helen were more in line wid why I did what I did... Hey, I loves womenz but womenz and mens come wid different wirin' and, yeah, now an' then I like to playfully mess wid the womenz... Heck, wid some of the dumbass stuff I've said here in mudville one certainly shouldn'y infere that I'z like any saner than the average womanz and I, ahhhh, is a manz... I mean, lets face it, menz is some purdy messes up folks their ownselves... Sho nuff ate... But in other areas... Like I ain't in denial and will never come to the defense of menz wacky stuff they do... Now, I know we satrted off on the wrong foot wid my Doctor Phil thread a long time ago but, hey, in this danged messed up world wid people killing each other fir sports jackets, 'er oil, a little intermural skrimage between the menz and the womenz here in Mudville shouldn't ever be taken too seriously... And I loves the P-Vine and of all the spouses in Mudville and Tweeds, she is by far the best knowed and most boasted on spouse 'er SO that I can think of.... Sniff.... I just like sharin' her with others and don't mean no disrespect... Sniff... Sho don't... (oh, yer gonna get it now, Bobert... WYSusan gonna stick you in the corner with a pointy hat if yer lucky... But you might get the dreaded "little talk"!!!) I'm sorry, WYSusan... I'll be better... You'll see... This is the "new and improved" Bobert... Sniff... Bobert p.s. I got these iron stains right unner the rim of the toidy and have tried Lime-Away and nithin'... Any suggestions? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: CarolC Date: 11 Mar 05 - 07:15 PM I have just one final question: what's so gay about the Air Force and the Coast Guard? Nothing at all, PoppaGator. But a lot of gay men (certainly not all of them), and also some men in those particular branches of the service, whether they might happen to be gay or not (at least the ones I've met myself, anyway), have tended to be quite fastidious about their surroundings. A friend of mine when I was a kid wasn't even allowed to sit on her bed after it had been made. This was her father's rule... he called it "keeping a tight ship"... he was in the coast guard. The idea being that if my friend sat on her bed, the bedspread wouldn't look perfectly smooth and straight any more. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: jacqui.c Date: 11 Mar 05 - 07:19 PM I haven't met P-vine but, from Bobert's threads, all I have gained is a picture of a long suffering lady who must be some kind of saint to have lived with himself for so long :0). It is clear that Bobert has very strong, very good feelings for her and that these threads are very much a humourous general enquiry to try and get a better understanding of the female psyche and logic. Surely this cannot be a bad thing for all Mudcatters. I could not say that I have been offended by these questions, in fact they are so true to life that a wry grin is the usual response and I think that most of the Mudcat ladies would say the same. Bobert, maybe you had better report on the problems that 'friend' of yours is having in the future. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 11 Mar 05 - 07:39 PM What!!! Did some one confuse the P-Vine as *my wife*???? Heavens... No, ahhhh, she's actually a *friend's* wife!!! Sho nuff is... (Bobert, Bobert, Bobert! Now you've done it. You just said that you love the P-Vine's to peices. What, you foolin' round with yer buddies wife, 'er what? Come on...) Ahhhh, it's been brought to my attention that the P-Vine is indeed my wife... Ahhhhh, so ignore what I just said... But, hey, this is some fine news 'cause I'd hate to have these feelings fir someone elses wife... Could get very messy especially if my friend was a lot bigger than me... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Layah Date: 11 Mar 05 - 08:34 PM I've had three boyfriends and all of them were neater than I am. Don't know if I'm exceptionally messy (very likely) or if they were exceptionally clean (also likely). The flat I'm renting now came with a cleaning service, but thank God they don't clean my bedroom. They take care of nasty things like kitchens and bathrooms, but if they were going to be cleaning my bedroom I'd have to keep it clean, and that would just be awful. I'm going to clean my room soon...really! This is the first time I've had a bedroom to my own, I never realized how much cleaner I used to be when I had to keep someone else happy. Probably better that way. I don't like living alone. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 Mar 05 - 09:04 PM "A Clean Desk is the sign of a Sick Mind" is a slogan I've seen more than once. Perhaps there is a corollary to do with housekeeping. I don't think I'm being naive in stating that while our house is a bit messy, my children are happy. A conversation last night: "Mom, you remember when you told us that if we ever considered running away, we should run away to a friend's house?" "Yes. Are you thinking about it?" (this asked of a very mature 16-year-old) "No, but do you remember the second part of that talk, that if we had a friend that wanted to run away, that they could come here?" Light begins to dawn. "Do you have someone in mind? . . . " We may have a displaced teenager here over spring break, and if she needs to move in for a while, we'll talk about it. The point is, the house may be messy, but the people are comfortable and well-adjusted and nurturing. I'm so proud of a 16-year-old who knows how to look out for her friend and can ask a parent for help. As Martha Stewart says, even in her spic-n-span house, "This is a good thing." SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: jacqui.c Date: 11 Mar 05 - 09:43 PM There's a fridge magnet with the legend 'Dull women have immaculate houses'. I'll drink to that. My daughter, at age 14, told me that she was the only one in her class who said, during a class on birth control, that she would not be afraid to come and tell me if she got pregnant. All the others were too scared of parental reaction to consider it. I'd rather have that than a sparkling clean house. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: freda underhill Date: 11 Mar 05 - 09:48 PM ditto, jacqui c. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bill D Date: 11 Mar 05 - 10:08 PM iron stains:..yep, a single edged razor blade (in a holder if you have one)...then Bon Ami and Comet. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 11 Mar 05 - 10:48 PM Thanks, Bill... Heck, I've tried jus' 'bout everything else... Maybe this will work..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Little Hawk Date: 11 Mar 05 - 11:12 PM Try a short range burst of 50 caliber ammo, Bobert. That'll get rid of those nasty rust stains in a jiff. I got this handy piece of advice just now from Chongo Chimp. He also said, "Do it when the P-Vine ain't home, cos most women have a problem with that sort of thing for some reason." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 12 Mar 05 - 12:01 AM Heck, LH, all I got is a 12 guage pump... Think it will work?... Maybe some 8 shot?... No, I know not to use "punkin' balls"... Might blow a hole in the floor after takin' out the pesky iron stains... See this is what I mean about men and women thinkin' not being quite on the same page. The women? They want cleaner and solvents and all them womenz type things... Men?... Blow that danged iron deposits in the toilty the heck up. Shoot, it the 50 calibre won't get it, nuke it, gol danged it... Yup, who said that nuclear weapons is bad? They sho nuff make housework a snap... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Helen Date: 12 Mar 05 - 01:26 AM If I didn't find this thread funny I'd seriously consider a sense-of-humour transplant. Bobert, it'd be hard to take your comments as serious bitching when you are so funny. Funny ha-ha, that is, not funny peculiar. Well ....... only a little bit peculiar.......but I'm laughing with you and not at you. ;-> Maybe I'd better quit while I'm still ahead. Helen |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: jacqui.c Date: 12 Mar 05 - 07:16 AM There is a difference between the sexes on the question of cleaning. While I was away in Florida for a few days Kendall painted the bathroom and then cleaned up after himself, including washing the floor. A week after my return I was, again, cleaning the bathroom floor and he asked me why, since he had done it while I was away. I love being married to a man for whom a spotless house is not a priority! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: hilda fish Date: 12 Mar 05 - 07:19 AM Still, although there's been some suggestions, the question still hasn't been answered. Given that it might be necessary to 'clear' for the cleaning person, why do you have to 'clean' for the cleaning lady. Where does that come from? I've known people who've done that - clean before the cleaning person arrives. What is that? In the cases I've observed, it was women and I wondered if they had some inbuilt conditioning that wouldn't let them let go of their 'control' of their domain; in this case the house? I've never been able to work it out. Years ago I cleaned and in EVERY case the house was cleaned for me before I arrived. It was sort of humiliating. Why did they need me if they had to clean for me? Was my opinion of their house that important? It's a mystery. Thanks for asking the question. I'd love to know the answer to this one too. If I ever had a cleaning lady (and I've thought of it often but am too lazy or spent the money on something really useful like a killer pair of high heels) I'd let her do EVERYTHING! I'd drink capuccino's and sit around enjoying being the lady who had a cleaning lady! I'd be that tacky. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: kendall Date: 12 Mar 05 - 07:21 AM There is no substitute for a sense of humor. Some people seem to be in a never ending search for something to be offended about. Spare me! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: SINSULL Date: 12 Mar 05 - 10:30 AM P-Vine is my hero! It never occurred to me that Bobert was funnin' on his friend's wife. I always assumed he was the brunt of his own jokes. When I meet her at the Getaway, I plan to ask how she manages B's hat collection. I could care less about her bathroom. But while we are on bathrooms...would someone explain to me why men don't flush? I remember Mayor Koch singing "If it's yellow let it mellow. If it's brown flush it down." but that was during a drought. It is just plain nasty to have to check before I sit. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Little Hawk Date: 12 Mar 05 - 01:32 PM Men who don't flush are doing one of two things... 1. Expressing their rugged independence and their not very well hidden contempt for other people... or... 2. Indicating that they simply don't believe that anyone else could improve on their latest accomplishment. (Heh! Heh!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: John MacKenzie Date: 12 Mar 05 - 02:17 PM Hydrochloric acid, rubber gloves, a face mask, and all windows open, and a bit of wire wool, that'll remove your rust stains, but be really careful with it, as it's nasty stuff. Don't breathe in the fumes. Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: bflat Date: 12 Mar 05 - 07:58 PM My friend Alberta, has several sisters whom I have never met and I wonder if P-Vine could be one of them. Alberta has the same philosophy about cleaning ladies. She conscripts her husband and they clean their lovely home before a new cleaning lady begins working for them. Alberta believes in first impressions and she wants the cleaning lady to know what her standard is going to be. So perhaps she has something there. It might just cut down on misunderstandings and unmet expectations. P-Vine, might be raising the bar and not excepting less than she expects. I think it is a rational approach. Ellen |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: kendall Date: 12 Mar 05 - 09:27 PM Sinsull, it depends on what is in the toilet. A bit of pee wont kill you, and every time you flush the water bill goes up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 12 Mar 05 - 09:40 PM Well, well, well... As per usual I go off to DC to play blues and when I get home here we got another food fight in progress... To flush of not to flush, that is the question.... Well, first of all we got 3 bathrooms. Two are P-Vines, which is fine with me, and one is mine, mine, mine... No we gotta a well and while the water is real tasty, the quanity ain't all that great so I use a little common sense here... There's somethin' to the mellow yellow argument but there's a point in time when mellow ain't as mellow as it was an hour or two ago... The nose knows... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Ferrara Date: 13 Mar 05 - 02:50 AM Hey, Bobert, Just wanted to tell you that part of my post on your thread disappeared -- the sad fact is, I probably deleted it absentmindedly. It was where I tried to make it clear that I was just kidding you. Sorry it got lost because the post has a different feel without that paragraph. I WAS just kidding. All the best, Rita |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 13 Mar 05 - 08:19 AM Arrrghhhhhhh!!! The one person who has perhaps seen the Bobert bathroom and could have come to my rescue left me out to twist in the wind... Awwww, jus' funnin' wid ya, Rita, but we may need you to go wake Bill up and tell him he has been asked to testify on the Bobert's bahalf... But I still loves ya'... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: wysiwyg Date: 13 Mar 05 - 08:26 AM Good grief, Bobberk! Putting "toilet flush" and "food fight" together is GROSS! The very image-- eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!! :~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Stilly River Sage Date: 13 Mar 05 - 10:45 AM Bobert, One of these will probably solve the iron buildup problem. Meanwhile, Saniflush or Vanish (granules) are what worked best to get the rust and the limestone out of the toilets when I was living in Kentucky. The red was so prominent in the water that you didn't do the laundry for a couple of days after a heavy rain or it would turn your whites pink. SRS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 13 Mar 05 - 04:10 PM Having grown up over in Virginia where they had "Old Sparky" down at the State pen, I ain't sitting on no chairs that plug into the wall, thank you very much... But thanks fir the other products... Yeah, WYSusan. Bad choice of words... Very bad... Next time I see you remind me to tell you about one of the clients I used to have in my social worker life... Just say "Bathroom" and that oughtta jump start the story... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: gnu Date: 13 Mar 05 - 04:36 PM "... it depends on what is in the toilet." No. Around here, we pay about one buck Canuck per cubic metre. I think I can "waste" $Cdn0.01 to leave the toilet sparkly for the next guy. What the hell kinda fees do youse guys pay? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Ebbie Date: 13 Mar 05 - 08:05 PM But gnu- remember Canada has more water than the US. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 13 Mar 05 - 08:42 PM And a lot more water than my poor ol' well.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Peace Date: 13 Mar 05 - 09:17 PM Blue Link |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: JennyO Date: 13 Mar 05 - 09:49 PM Looking at your link, brucie, seems a lot more housework gets done in the average household than around here! I have a slogan on my frig that I like - MY ONLY DOMESTIC QUALITY IS THAT I LIVE IN A HOUSE! I do more cleaning than John, cos he doesn't do any, but he does more cooking. In fact we usually cook meals together. Works for us! As for only 7 minutes a day on the computer? I don't think so!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Peace Date: 13 Mar 05 - 09:54 PM Well, my dish washing is down to a spoon. I open a can and eat. Then throw the can away. Then wash the spoon. Do laundry every 10 days. Everything in one load. Garbage goes out every three days. I leave the mess in the place until it bugs me. Then I ignore it until I can't find things. That takes a month. Ya don't get it dirty and ya don't have to clean it. I am trained, but I ain't housebroken yet. Since I live alone, I can drink straight from a container thus saving a glass. Don't was my coffee cup because I don't use milk or sugar. Life is fairly simple. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: CarolC Date: 13 Mar 05 - 09:56 PM LOVE the INCINOLET! What a great idea! Just hook it up to a solar power source, and all of your flushes will be guilt free! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Kim C Date: 15 Mar 05 - 05:42 PM "Dull women have immaculate houses" If that's true then I must be the sharpest knife in the drawer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: jacqui.c Date: 15 Mar 05 - 05:49 PM Ditto. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Charmion Date: 16 Mar 05 - 06:08 PM I confess to a bad case of neatness envy that breaks out into genuine neatness every two weeks when Tina the Portuguese Torpedo is due to clean the joint. I grew up with packrat parents who kept everything and filed it all under M for Miscellaneous. Then I joined the Canadian Forces and lived out of a locker and a barrack box for two years. Having experienced both extremes, I know what I'm doing. My mother, the Queen of Muddle, would find our place uncomfortably tidy, however -- good thing she's no longer with us to be bothered. I keep our novels in bookcases, arranged alphabetically by author so I can find something to read in a hurry, for example when on my way to the bathroom. She stacked books on the stairs, under tables, on the floors and on most flat surfaces in the house (and it was a big house). Those on shelves tended to be arranged so the most unlikely writers were co-located on the shelf -- Christopher Isherwood next to Captain Marryat ... Her idea of a joke, entertaining until you need to find something, or walk across the room without barking a shin or falling on your kiester. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: CarolC Date: 16 Mar 05 - 06:13 PM LOL When I have a bookshelf (which I don't right now... my books are mostly in boxes), I tend to arrange them according to the esthetics of how they look when arranged... color size, patterns, etc. ;-) (I never said I was normal... ) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 16 Mar 05 - 06:31 PM Well, grrrrrrrr, CarolC.... Now that's one thing that I don't like about this cleaning lady... She dusts and messes everything up... I mean, liie I gotta a lot of things and I like 'um where they are and not oved over 6 inches one way or another... Maybe I'll just have to go back to doing the dusting and ask her not to do it... Then since BillD came up with a great way to get the stains outta the toidy maybe I shoule tell her to leave that one fir me as well... Actually, maybe I oughtta just send her a check every 2 weeks if she promised to not show up to clean? Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: CarolC Date: 16 Mar 05 - 06:39 PM I told you, Bobert, send the checks to me. I absolutely guarantee I won't show up at your place to clean it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Little Hawk Date: 16 Mar 05 - 06:58 PM I could stand to get rid of about 92% of everything in this house. That says it all, I think. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Azizi Date: 16 Mar 05 - 08:23 PM Well, I don't want a cleaning lady. But a handyman would be nice. ;O) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 16 Mar 05 - 09:51 PM Make ya' a deal, MiziAzizizizi.... You come clean me house and not mess with dustin' or my toidy an' I'll fix anyhting you got in yer house... I loves plumbin' and carpenterin' an' sucgh but hate to push a vacuum cleaner... Yeah, stuff me unner the house with the rats, a little pipe, some solder, flux and torch an' Iz 'bout as happy as a man can be... But please don't make be change the bed sheets... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Azizi Date: 16 Mar 05 - 10:09 PM Ahh, Bobert- Thanks for the offer Bobert, but P'Vine wouldn't want you to do the kinda chores I need tendin to. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 16 Mar 05 - 10:23 PM Oh, Mizi, I love it when a woman talks dirty.... Awww, jus' funnin' wid ya... Ahhhh, like what kinda chores????.... Bobert p.s. Oh, looks like I'z gonna have the first of my "womenz queations" thread live to a ripe ol' age of 100... Well, gol danged... Seems if ya' throw womenz and toidies together in a thread yer' sure to break the century mark. Hmmmmmmm? Nevermind, me and the Wes Ginny Slide Rule will have to get back to ya that last comment... B:) p.p.s. No, I din't say nuthin' about throwing womenz in the toidy so don't nobody even go there, dang it. (Whew, you gotta cover yer butt 'round this joint...) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Azizi Date: 16 Mar 05 - 10:26 PM I guess I have to advertise in the want ads. And BTW, Is this my first 100??!! The thread, I mean. I just need one good, highly skilled handyman. References would be nice. But he needs to work exclusively for me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Azizi Date: 16 Mar 05 - 10:34 PM See Bobert what you done done.. You went and took the #100 spot. All I ever wanted in life was to be Number 100. I'm cryin the blues here. Now if my handyman hadn't left me, I could invent some problem that needed fixin and call him up-but wait a minute- is that the door bell I hear? Well, just what the doctor ordered! Jim Dandy to the rescue!! Bobert, I'm outta here. Give P'Vine my regards!! Azizi |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bill D Date: 16 Mar 05 - 10:40 PM "... since BillD came up with a great way to get the stains outta the toidy..." I wuz readin', and I couldn't see where you perzactly said it you tried it and worked....wuz I right? (it sure worked for me!) I have found that on very hard surfaces like glass & porcelain, scraping with a sharp edge is about as easy as chemicals and brushes. And once an area is in purty good shape, Bon Ami does wonders at final clean-up and polishing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 16 Mar 05 - 11:09 PM Yeah, Bill, it works like a charm... ("Charm", Bobert? It's, ahhhhhh, like toidy cleanin'...) Let's just say it works, Bill... Ahhhhh, real sorry, Mizi Azizizizi... Hate to rain on yer parade... Sho nuff do... How was I to know there was a party goin' on?... Yeah, you just call ol' Jim Dandy... I hear he can fix what ever needs a fixin'... Sho nuff can... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: freda underhill Date: 17 Mar 05 - 07:37 AM heh heh heh what does the washington post say about cleaning house? was that Bobert or Robot? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: jacqui.c Date: 17 Mar 05 - 08:04 AM Bring it on! Can't come soon enough for me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 17 Mar 05 - 08:28 AM Maybe some one will invent a battery operated toilet cleaner... Just drop it in, leave it for one hour, come back and retrieve it with that handy little cord it came with and, walaa, yer toidy is lookin' all sparkly white... Opps, I can linger here and dream, this is "The Day"... Gotta go scrub... Whew, the P-Vine is as nervous as if she were about to go on stage ar Carniegie Hall... Scub a dub dub... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Little Hawk Date: 17 Mar 05 - 01:10 PM Last minute solution! Hand grenade. Get 'em at the local Army Surplus store. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: wysiwyg Date: 17 Mar 05 - 01:33 PM There is a new product from that OxyClean a**hole, that you spray into the bowl and it foams up as a big puff right up to the rim (don't know what stops it there, uh oh)...... You leave it in there and later it's all sparkly..... One reason wimmin ask menfolk to clean the pot is because when you guys aim wrong, there's not only dribble down the front all dried on, but also usually a crust of hardened crystals firmly bonded to the top edge (the part normally hidden by the lowered seat). No cleaning lady I know wants to spend all her hired time scraping it off. No one hiring a cleaner wants that one job done (takes forever) and the rest of the house not gotten around to. Either. Combine it with country-hard water, and the water don't hep much either. What gets THAT stuff off, anyway??????????? My two teen boys left home years ago, and..... Eeeeeewwww. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Date: 17 Mar 05 - 05:44 PM Plastic explosive will get anything off. Except a walrus. Goddamn things are frigid, I hear. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: CarolC Date: 17 Mar 05 - 05:54 PM Woah... Chongo, that was at least a triple, maybe even a quaduple entendendre... I bet you pulled a muscle of some kind, coming up with that one. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bill D Date: 17 Mar 05 - 06:18 PM "...when you guys aim wrong," oh, no doubt...but us guys can't take all the credit. Many years ago I kept company with a lady whose apartment was spic & span....except for under the toilet seat & rim. She, of course, never lifted it...even when she cleaned, evidently. I was, to put it mildly, startled by how bad it could get, and I have seen similar situations since. Toilets require work...and I figgered out the razor blade trick in self-defense, as simple chemicals, as far as I can see, won't prevent gradual build up of stains. So every year or two, I take an hour and get 'em CLEAN! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: CarolC Date: 17 Mar 05 - 06:31 PM (btw, nice dismount, Chongo) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: PoppaGator Date: 17 Mar 05 - 06:41 PM Reason Number One for Not Flushing (for me, anyway): When I have to pee in the wee wee hours (pun intended), I don't want to wake anyone! Is that so wrong? (Fortunately, nocturnal number twos are so rare that I almost never have to face the dilemma of whether to risk rousing an angry sleep-deprived spouse by noisily banishing solid human waste.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: wysiwyg Date: 17 Mar 05 - 07:12 PM Bill, are you delicately referring to projectile pooping? People would be AMAZED how often this happens in the parish loo! I guess you are correct-- that IS the wiminz loo I see it in-- of course... but that sh8 comes off with enough soaking. Naw, I'm talking about that yellow stuff. Razor blade, huh? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: LilyFestre Date: 17 Mar 05 - 07:30 PM Susan, We have hard water over here too...leaves lovely stains, eh? We found a cleaner called "The Works" and it takes off the stains from the water....cheap too. :) Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bobert Date: 17 Mar 05 - 07:36 PM Nuthin' like *poop* to get a thread really rockin'.... Ahhhh, as fir the aiming complaint that WYSusan brought up... As fir me, when I'm home, I sit so unfortunate situation that the Big Guy didn't really think out too well aren't applicable in out house... Okay, I also use the back yard which grosses the P-Vine out but, hey, no crystalized stuff to scrape off... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: wysiwyg Date: 17 Mar 05 - 07:45 PM Well thanks for sharing, Bobert! :~) ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bill D Date: 17 Mar 05 - 11:04 PM nope...no specific reference....just general stain build-up from not being cleaned well up under the rim. You don't see it if you don't lift the seat...unless you bend way down. This lady's brush did fine on what she could see, I guess............ however, I HAVE seen grossness I hate to mention in public potties. Sometimes I think certain folks wait till they're away from home to make a big mess just so they don't have to deal with the results. (You know, there are certain functions and habits we are not trained in much and that just are not mentioned much after we are 7-8 years old, and I am of the opinion that in 30-40 years, some very strange variations on private activities can develop.....) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Little Hawk Date: 17 Mar 05 - 11:12 PM I saw a gas station washroom once that was just...well...you had to see it to believe it. The person who had been in there must either have been completely nuts or had a real bad grudge on other people for some reason. It was basically unusable...unless you had a skyhook and took the roof off first and did strafing run from a safe altitude. I went and told them about it (figured it was best they knew), and drove to another station. God help whoever had to deal with it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: wysiwyg Date: 17 Mar 05 - 11:14 PM (hi Bill) ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert's 1st Womanz Question of '05... From: Bill D Date: 17 Mar 05 - 11:30 PM (hi yerself) ß |
