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Subject: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Amos Date: 10 Mar 07 - 12:42 PM A reminder that at 2AM tonight the clocks of the United States are supposed to be set forward one hour. This is the first year it has been done on this date, rather than some other legislated date, and it is causing all sorts of kafluffle in Windows networks, and perhaps others, to reset correctly. Happy Daylight Savings, y'all! A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Ebbie Date: 10 Mar 07 - 02:09 PM Will it encourage the arrival of Spring? We're expecting another snow storm tonight so it's got to hurry. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: John MacKenzie Date: 10 Mar 07 - 02:13 PM Time is but a toy of the living. In Mr Death's house there are no clocks! Hope that cheers ya up! Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: GUEST,Sprung Chicken Date: 10 Mar 07 - 02:13 PM Let's see that's fall forwards spring backwards rite? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Ebbie Date: 10 Mar 07 - 02:35 PM Guest/Sprung Chicken, that's only for when you are threatened by a venomous snake. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Little Hawk Date: 10 Mar 07 - 03:15 PM Punxatawney Phil obviously pulled a few strings here. His credibility has been a bit shaky after that last prognostication back on Feb 2nd, and this is an attempt to cover his furry little ass. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: JohnInKansas Date: 10 Mar 07 - 03:27 PM WinXP users can get their DST flip dates reset at the download sites, but when I got it it was an "optional" update and wasn't being downloaded automatically. You had to click "Custom Install" at the site, and pick out the appropriate change. There may have been similar updates for other supported versions. For those who don't find an automatic program, you'll probably have a change schedule of some kind, so after you manually reset your clock tonight, when the "regular" date comes up next month you'll probably have to manually reset it again. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Peace Date: 10 Mar 07 - 03:41 PM Does the year change? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Little Hawk Date: 10 Mar 07 - 03:42 PM Not till Dec 31st. Midnight. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Rasener Date: 10 Mar 07 - 03:48 PM When do the clocks change in the UK? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Peace Date: 10 Mar 07 - 03:57 PM Thanks, LH, but I really gotta be sure on this. OK. Right now it's 2008. So when I set the clock to awake at 2:00 AM on Sunday morning, I take the clock backwards for an hour and then when I thoought I awoke at 2:00 AM it was REALLY 1:00 AM. So then I do that again and again and again and ag . . . . So, eventually it becomes 2007 again, right? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Ebbie Date: 10 Mar 07 - 04:02 PM It's going to be a long night, Peace. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Peace Date: 10 Mar 07 - 04:09 PM Ebbie, it's shapin' up that way. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Amos Date: 10 Mar 07 - 04:40 PM Peace: Go to bed at 10 PM, but set your clock forward to 11:00. The Candians won't like it because you'll be an hour early for everything, but your pals here in the US will really appreciate your attitude. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Peace Date: 10 Mar 07 - 04:43 PM OK. Is it fall or spring here? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Liz the Squeak Date: 10 Mar 07 - 06:36 PM It's Saturday. LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: katlaughing Date: 10 Mar 07 - 06:41 PM I despise this. I wish they'd leave it alone and forget daylight savings time! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Bill D Date: 10 Mar 07 - 07:02 PM I have this clock program I made a new rule for DST and updated the settings....my computer will change automatically...I will STILL have 14 digital and analog clocks to re-set manually. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: JohnInKansas Date: 10 Mar 07 - 07:12 PM One of our prominent local auto dealers has set up a special website to provide help for people who can't figure out how to reset the clock in their car, and then took out a fairly large newspaper ad to make sure that everyone would know how to find the website. I'd expect that the website may include an offer to just sell you a new car with the clock set correctly, although I'm not really curious enough to look. There are opportunites to profit from trivia and tragedy everywhere, I guess. John |
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Subject: LYR ADD: There ought to be a Moonlight Saving Time From: BK Lick Date: 10 Mar 07 - 08:02 PM From the Wikipedia entry for Daylight Saving Time: The musical standard "(There Ought To Be A) Moonlight Saving Time" by Irving Kahal and Harry Richman was a #1 hit for Guy Lombardo in 1931, and was also performed by Maurice Chevalier, Blossom Dearie and others. Moonlight saving time also appears in the 1995 country song "Not Enough Hours In The Night" written by Aaron Barker, Kim Williams and Rob Harbin and performed by Doug Supernaw. THERE OUGHT TO BE A MOONLIGHT SAVING TIME Kahahl and Richman INTRO: |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: WFDU - Ron Olesko Date: 10 Mar 07 - 09:39 PM I LOVE daylight savings time! I switched my clocks last week!!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Dave'sWife Date: 10 Mar 07 - 10:51 PM Little Hawk - no offense intended but .... Screw Punxatawney Phil! He's never right. Out here we go by Mojave Max who is way cooler than Phil in my opinion. Check him out: Mojave Max the Desert Tortoise Predicts Spring See, Max hasn't ermeged from hibernation yet, so that's why it's still snowing big bunches up where my Mom lives (way the heck northern NY). Once Max wakes up and comes on out, all will be warm and fuzzy: Mojave Max's status page So remember groundhogs are out, Desert Tortoises are in (at least for west coasters) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: JennyO Date: 10 Mar 07 - 11:34 PM I LOVE Daylight Saving. We don't get it for long enough, as far as I'm concerned. Being down here in upside down world (Oz), we've been enjoying it since the 29th October last year, and it finishes in a couple of weeks on the 25th March, unfortunately :-( Looks like I'll have to adjust my calculations twice, when working out the difference between our time and Mudcat time. At the moment we are 16 hours ahead of you, for the next two weeks it will be 15 hours, then after the 25th it will be 14 hours. Ouch, my head hurts! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Peace Date: 11 Mar 07 - 12:16 AM OK for all you fancy folks out there with your analog this and sundial that time pieces. But I have a cuckoo clock and I need to know if this is gonna screw up the bird. Serious answers for once. This is NOT a laughing matter. If I'm gonna have a fu#ked up cuckoo bird because of this change thing, it ain't gonna happen. The bird and I go back a long way, and I don't need it gettin' all outta sorts at 2:23 AM squacking that he's pissed off about having his routine messed with. If there's a chance of that, then it will remain 2008 and that's that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: JohnInKansas Date: 11 Mar 07 - 01:50 AM Peace - Cuckoos are nice little birds, but not too bright. If you just walk past at about 01:45 and cuckoo twice, at 02:00 the cuckoo will think that 02:00 has already come and passed, so if the cuckoo has minimal cleverness (normal for cuckoos) it should automatically/reflexively cuckoo three times, and will remain on the adjusted time schedule thereafter. It's much more difficult when the change is in the other direction, since you must prevent the cuckoo from hearing one time, so that it will repeat the same number of cucks at the following hour. If this doesn't work, I can assure you that the only reason would be that instead of an accurate "cuckoo" you must have "dodo'd" and should look for the mess and clean it up. John |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Peace Date: 11 Mar 07 - 03:05 AM OK. Thanks for the help, John. I just walked by the bird and cuckooed thirteen times about five minutes ago--it was midnight here. I think I got him fooled. I'll let you know what happens in about 55 minutes from now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: open mike Date: 11 Mar 07 - 03:42 AM best way tyo sety car clocks is to unhook the battery at nidnight then re-start...at the time that midnight will arrive , let's see. that means i should have gone out 1/2 hour ago at 11.. oh well.. better luck next time.. another trick is to tell your computer that you are in the next time zone to the east. (if in pacific time, tell it you are in mountain, etc.) i am going to experment and see if the cellphone sets itself' a couple of months ago when i was in nevada...pacific time....it kept setting itself ahead 2 hours in central time..i think this was due to a huge antennae system outside the place i was staying....a tower of communication antennaes, satellite dishes and other sources of various types of waves. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Peace Date: 11 Mar 07 - 03:02 AM The bird has issues. He says he ain't gonna cuckoo until he knows what time it is. I told him it's 2008. He told me to get stuffed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: open mike Date: 11 Mar 07 - 03:05 AM i heard a wild cuckoo in sweden a couple years ago.. they really do have a perfect third interval...now a musical thread! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: autolycus Date: 11 Mar 07 - 03:23 AM In the UK , clocks,watches and hairs on the wrist spring forward on 25th March. Then I'll be able to stop mentally subtracting an hour from what my clock shows. And who is cleverer,a person or a cuckoo? Too close to call? Ivor |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Peace Date: 11 Mar 07 - 03:35 AM Good to see you out of hospital and back at it with the radio show, Laurel. Take care of yourself. Looking forward to the show Sunday. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: bobad Date: 11 Mar 07 - 06:54 AM I see the Mudcat clock is sleeping in this morning. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: open mike Date: 11 Mar 07 - 08:15 PM my computer and cell phone changed time automatically ---is big brother watching? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Bill D Date: 11 Mar 07 - 08:48 PM "Satellites are hacked" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Joe Offer Date: 11 Mar 07 - 11:23 PM There have been some anomalies in the past with various states, like Arizona not accepting Daylight Savings Time. Is this change universal in the U.S., or are there the usual exceptions? -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Peace Date: 12 Mar 07 - 09:20 AM The %$#@**%# bird is dead. He got to forty-seven cuckoos and that hit the last nerve I had left. I do not want to receive nasty messages from the animal lovers on this site. The bird had it comin' and he got it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Peace Date: 12 Mar 07 - 09:21 AM CUCKOO MY ASS! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Peace Date: 12 Mar 07 - 09:21 AM PS, anyone know what time it is? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Scrump Date: 12 Mar 07 - 10:17 AM Daylight saving is a con. I set my clocks back, and saved an hour of daylight, but then I just used it at the other end of the day, so I ended up with only the same amount of daylight I would've had if I'd have left the clocks alone. As usual, they give with one hand, and take away with the other. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Peace Date: 12 Mar 07 - 10:20 AM "As usual, they give with one hand, and take away with the other. " Give with the minute hand and take away with the hour hand? GOOD ONE! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Amos Date: 12 Mar 07 - 10:37 AM Scrump: If you set your clocks back, you may be dyschronic, as this is the season for Springing forward. The only way to make an extra hour of daylight occur at the end of the day is to set your clock ahead so the day starts earlier in the physical rotation of the planet and is still enjoying sunlight later on, with sundown (around here) now being at 7 instead of around 6. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Scrump Date: 12 Mar 07 - 10:39 AM I found it makes no difference, whether I set them backwards or forwards. I still get the same amount of daylight. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Peace Date: 12 Mar 07 - 10:46 AM Yeah. BUT, the world has either 23 or 25 hours in each 24 hour period. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 12 Mar 07 - 10:47 AM "It's Saturday." (Liz the Sqeak.) But not this Saturday for the UK - it's scheduled for the 25th March. I gather the original idea for all this malarkey was dreamed up by Benjamin Frnaklin - the man who suggested the turkey as the national bird for the USA. This idea was another turkey, and one that badly needs its neck wrung. Changing the time we do stuff according to the time of year makes sense, but forcing us all to do it all together, with the clocks changing, is just silly. Especially now we've got clocks built into central heating systems and mobile phones and TVs and car dashboards and computers, as well as watches, and probably some devices I haven't caught up with yet. (And then you have other countries do it at different times which complicates matters yet again.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Scoville Date: 12 Mar 07 - 10:53 AM I think it ought to be reversed and we ought to set the clocks forward in the winter. Daylight at 6:00 a.m. is a total waste--anyone who doesn't have to be up is still asleep, and anyone who is up is headed to work or to school, where they won't see the daylight, anyway. So kids have to wait for the bus in the dark--they're almost walking home in the dark, anyway. They're not even using amost of that morning daylight. I'm surprised the anti-obesity faction haven't jumped on this since it makes it hard to be outside after school/work when it's pitch black out by 5:00. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Scrump Date: 12 Mar 07 - 11:02 AM The excuse that used to be used by the government for putting the clocks back in the autumn, making it lighter earlier in the morning, was that it saved the lives of kids walking to school. Then more recently I saw something in the press that said the opposite, i.e. kids were more likely to get killed walking home from school in the evening. I don't know which is correct, but as most kids don't walk to school any more, but get driven by their parents, I would have thought this argument was irrelevant these days :-) I'm in favour of having more light at the end of the day, when I can conceivably do something useful when I get home, e.g. in the garden, before it gets dark. I can do folk-all in the morning before I go to work, because I don't have time, and I don't mind if it's dark when I go to work. Coupled with that is the fact that we in the UK are 1 hour behind (most of)the rest of the continent - I can't see any reason why we shouldn't adopt continental time. (I suspect the anti-EU lobby would object though, as if it was swapping the pound for the euro.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Desert Dancer Date: 12 Mar 07 - 02:06 PM The usual exceptions are still in force, Joe. ~ Becky in Tucson, where it's Mountain Standard Time all year long |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 12 Mar 07 - 09:08 PM I remember the Kippers used to point out that the longest day in the year is the day the clocks go back, because it has 25 hours, and the shortest day is when they go forward, because it only has 23. (I think I've got that the right way round...) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Dave'sWife Date: 14 Mar 07 - 06:46 PM McGrath_of_Harlow - I don't know if this is true or not, but the US Government claims that by adding these extra weeks to Daylight savings time, the country as a whole is saving approiximately 100,000 barrels of oil that would have been used to power lights in businesses. That's the argument anyways. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Bill D Date: 15 Mar 07 - 11:53 AM Well, we DO save some energy by the general use of DST....there is some question though, whether this new change will save a significant amount more.... (since I tend to sleep late and USE those longer evening hours, the change fits me just fine....I am barely aware of what it means to those who must rise and cope early) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Spring Forward for Daylight Savings From: Riginslinger Date: 16 Mar 07 - 09:18 AM I hate daylight savings time; I hate daylight savings time; I hate daylight savings... |
