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GUEST,nurse ratched 24 Feb 04 - 12:07 AM
Liz the Squeak 23 Feb 04 - 11:57 PM
GUEST,nurse ratched 23 Feb 04 - 08:22 PM
John MacKenzie 23 Feb 04 - 05:16 PM
Liz the Squeak 23 Feb 04 - 05:05 PM
John MacKenzie 23 Feb 04 - 04:45 PM
Dead Horse 23 Feb 04 - 04:21 PM
Stilly River Sage 23 Feb 04 - 02:07 PM
Dr Will C U Now 23 Feb 04 - 02:05 PM
John MacKenzie 23 Feb 04 - 07:22 AM
GUEST,Nurse Ratched 23 Feb 04 - 07:17 AM
GUEST,Alfred Annoyes 23 Feb 04 - 07:13 AM
GUEST,Nurse Ratched 23 Feb 04 - 06:48 AM
Dave Bryant 23 Feb 04 - 06:34 AM
Liz the Squeak 22 Feb 04 - 06:22 PM
rock chick 22 Feb 04 - 02:05 PM
Catherine Jayne 22 Feb 04 - 07:12 AM
Liz the Squeak 22 Feb 04 - 06:42 AM
Stilly River Sage 22 Feb 04 - 01:53 AM
kendall 21 Feb 04 - 06:44 PM
jacqui c 21 Feb 04 - 05:47 PM
Liz the Squeak 21 Feb 04 - 10:55 AM
Amos 21 Feb 04 - 10:53 AM
kendall 21 Feb 04 - 09:53 AM
freda underhill 21 Feb 04 - 09:03 AM
John MacKenzie 21 Feb 04 - 08:40 AM
freda underhill 21 Feb 04 - 07:10 AM
Stilly River Sage 21 Feb 04 - 01:14 AM
Chief Chaos 20 Feb 04 - 01:10 PM
Stilly River Sage 19 Feb 04 - 10:03 PM
MAG 19 Feb 04 - 08:51 PM
Dr Will C U Now 19 Feb 04 - 06:16 PM
kendall 19 Feb 04 - 03:22 PM
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Dave Bryant 19 Feb 04 - 10:44 AM
freda underhill 19 Feb 04 - 08:35 AM
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GUEST,Hypomaniac 19 Feb 04 - 07:32 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: GUEST,nurse ratched
Date: 24 Feb 04 - 12:07 AM

doubt in the power of women is a psychiatric condition which can be assisted with shock therapy. this I am adept in applying - and the smell of burnt leopardskin is not appealing. I'm coming.

n.r.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Feb 04 - 11:57 PM

Oh John, come over here and say that....

Why does it take 4 women with PMT to change alight bulb?








BECAUSE IT JUST DOES, ALRIGHT A%£"$£"HOLE?!!!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: GUEST,nurse ratched
Date: 23 Feb 04 - 08:22 PM

is that the strait jacket you're calling for, john?

n.r


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Feb 04 - 05:16 PM

What's the difference between PMT and BSE?

Ones called Mad Cow Disease, and the other has something to do with beef.

Oh dear, it's coat time again....John


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Feb 04 - 05:05 PM

Can't decide if it's lack of prozac or PMT or chocolate deprivation which is making me want to kill things......

Will have to eat chocolate rugby ball tomorrow to find out.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Feb 04 - 04:45 PM

Oh Kay!!
John


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Dead Horse
Date: 23 Feb 04 - 04:21 PM

I had just got out of hospital the last time, when I found out that my wife did truly love me.
She was so excited that I had returned to the bosom of my family.
So excited, in fact, that she couldn't resist shouting out to the milkman, the mailman & the insurance man as they came walking up the drive "MY HUSBAND IS HOME, MY HUSBAND IS HOME".
Sure did make me feel loved.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Feb 04 - 02:07 PM

I think a few of you ward folks ought to cool it with Nurse Ratched and make good the exit through that coat closet over there--hang out in the tavern for a while. But DON'T TAKE YOUR BEDSORES INTO THE HOT TUB!!! Ick.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Dr Will C U Now
Date: 23 Feb 04 - 02:05 PM

Nurse! This floor needs more polish. For when that Radchet person comes striding by.
It'll help those with zimmer frames to get a move on, too.
Who wants leopard skin coats? $600 a piece.
NEXT!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Feb 04 - 07:22 AM

I'm beginning to feel stalked, good job I'm wearing this leopard skin disguise. No chance of my being spotted now!
Grrrrr.....John


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: GUEST,Nurse Ratched
Date: 23 Feb 04 - 07:17 AM

Thank you, Mr Annoyes, for that short poetic expectoration. now I must continue my search for Giok......




N.R.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: GUEST,Alfred Annoyes
Date: 23 Feb 04 - 07:13 AM

it was a dark and muddy night
as i lay in my hospital cell
the sign on my bed said Dave Bryant
there was a grim, malodorous smell..

the ward was a ribbon of flurolight
shedding on lousy floors
and the men in white coats came riding,
riding riding
the men in white coats came riding
up to my bedroom door

they'd a stethoscope bright at their jacket
Nurse Ratched was standing on by
they watched while i coughed up n hacked it
she fixed me with her malevolent eye

they ticked a few forms and they muttered
and mumbled, as they walked right on by
but Nurse Ratched replied, listen Bryant
I'll be back with the metho soon Bryant
back with the metho and needle
and she laughed as she swaggered on by...

She'd a white starched hat on her forehead
A bunch of old keys at her side
A dowdy and spotless white uniform
and a chuckle like Frankenstein's bride

And she strode with a bottle of metho,
and sponged that bottle of metho,
sponged that burning metho
Onto Dave Bryant's backside

while Dave screamed and grabbed at his morphine
Nurse Ratched leant over and said
Behave now, Bryant or I'll get you
And your bedsores will soon be bright red

She slapped our young Dave to submission
And beat the young man to a pulp
Over the lino she clattered
Like a medical Incredible Hulk

…And still of a winter's night, they say,
when Dave Bryant is clutching his knees,
When the ward is a Mudcat asylum
full of unrest & disease,
When the ward is a ribbon of flurolight over the sanitised floor,
Nurse Ratched comes a striding, striding, striding
Nurse Ratched comes a striding, along the linoleum floor..

Alfred Annoyes


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: GUEST,Nurse Ratched
Date: 23 Feb 04 - 06:48 AM

Dave Bryant, I have no interest in pursuing menial domestic chores. You will regret this misunderstanding. When I have finished with Giok - you, young man, will be necksed.

just a minute.. i saw him running off to the visiting room - BRB

N.R.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 23 Feb 04 - 06:34 AM

Sorting out Limpit and her bedroom sounds like the sort of job for Nurse Ratched, Liz.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 22 Feb 04 - 06:22 PM

That really bugs me too, when other people tell you how you are feeling, and you know perfectly well that you aren't.

Grrr... hook me up with the Prozac, I feel another 'chasing child around with a hammer and explaining infanticide' episode coming on....

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: rock chick
Date: 22 Feb 04 - 02:05 PM

Can i book a bed now pleaseee, as i have to periodically go into hospital as an emergency, would be nice to be with friends ranther than people telling you THEY know best even thou you have lived with the problem for 20 odd years. promise i will be a good patient...well most of the time once you give me the pain killers!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 22 Feb 04 - 07:12 AM

well I've managed to come down with a bad cold and aches and pains....2 and half weeks before I go to have my legs fixed. Plug in another IV with extra Gin for the aches and extra vitamin C for the cold!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 22 Feb 04 - 06:42 AM

Limpit wants a bed here now... anything to avoid tidying her room. IV of blackcurrant juice and a snuggly blankie for her please, whilst I get to grips with the hellhole that is her bedroom.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Feb 04 - 01:53 AM

Jacqui, good luck with the bunionectomy! You won't need many reminders to keep your foot up, it will ache if you put it down on the floor. We'll keep a Chardonay iv drip waiting for your return.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: kendall
Date: 21 Feb 04 - 06:44 PM

And we will mis you too. xxx


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: jacqui c
Date: 21 Feb 04 - 05:47 PM

Well, I'm in for the next op on Tuesday (if they've got a bed for me!). I wish that the hospital I'm going to was home to the Mudcat Recovery Ward 'cause I could really do with a white wine IV and a nice male nurse to tuck me in!

Should be able to get back into the ward next weekend - I'll miss you all until then.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 21 Feb 04 - 10:55 AM

Pissed on, yes. Pissed off - well, I'll take your word for it.

Pass the bedpans nurse, I feel a squabble coming on!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Amos
Date: 21 Feb 04 - 10:53 AM

Oh,. I dunno, kendall. I get pretty irritated while TRYING to... :>)

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: kendall
Date: 21 Feb 04 - 09:53 AM

Say what you will about banjos, it is impossible to be pissed off while playing a banjo.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: freda underhill
Date: 21 Feb 04 - 09:03 AM

no john, i was trying to wake you up....



ps.. i wondered how long b4 there'd be a banjo comment!!
if theres a heaven, i hope there's some banjos there....


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 Feb 04 - 08:40 AM

Banjo like?? I thought you were trying to cheer us up!
John


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: freda underhill
Date: 21 Feb 04 - 07:10 AM

you are in the mudcat recovery ward... reading this thread, trying to feel better.. and there's all this talk of asylums, attempted murder, sadistic nurses, power struggles, rape and lobotomy..

is this relaxing?

try this.....

you are completely relaxed. at the end of your bed stands a tall,beautiful angel (choose whichever gender you need), playing a harp. you watch this beautiful being, and quietly the harp music picks up pace, sounding remarkably up beat, banjo like. you feel life and happiness throb through you, and strangely the music continues, altho the angel has come close, and you feel two huge beautiful soft white wings surrounding you, comforting you. as you lie peacefully, you can feel yourselflooking about and enjoying everything you can see. after a while you realise that the wings have gone, the music is now a memory, playing about your room, and maybe you feel hungry..


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Feb 04 - 01:14 AM

McMurphy was the most sane person in the book. Dysfunctional is not the same as insanity. He signed on to go to the hospital thinking it was a warm place to spend the winter and a way to beat jail time for something he had done (can't remember what, but I think it was fairly minor).

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Chief Chaos
Date: 20 Feb 04 - 01:10 PM

Let's see shall we?
A patient who is certifiably insane (otherwise he wouldn't have been there in the first place) and being antagonized by (insert anyone here, male, female, color, religion, national origin, sexual preference)in the name of supposed control (when really what they were on was a sadistic power trip)ends up attempting to kill said antagonist and we are all supposed to mourn the antagonist?

The patient was insane and under what I would consider tortuous conditions does exactly what any sane person would. We were all jumping up and down and screaming Bundalo right along with him. Just like when any bad guy gets their come uppance!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 10:03 PM

Did you read that attack as a rape? It was more along the lines of attempted murder. It has been a long time since I read the book, but I think I'd have noticed a rape.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: MAG
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 08:51 PM

and how many of you think Kesey was justified in having McMurphy rape Nurse R. at the end in order to win the control battle????


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Dr Will C U Now
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 06:16 PM

Private Room!
These ARE available, of course. But only for folk with double-barrelled names and large bank accounts.
The rest must suffer. Hence Nurse Ratched.
I, on the other hand, am available to all. A professional of the highest motives. A servant of mankind.
"Tis easier for a rich man to pass through the eye of a camel, than it is to find a needle in a sewed up patient"
That will be $600.
NEXT!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: kendall
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 03:22 PM

hehehe


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: freda underhill
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 01:08 PM

no wonder you'r recovering so well, kendall...


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: kendall
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 01:04 PM

All my nurses were lovely young women who really cared about my comfort. One was downright affectionate. (Wish I had had a private room)


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 12:38 PM

Nurse Ratched had some partners in crime in the form of male psychiatrists who were competing with her and with some of the patients. While she stands out, there was a culture of domination that had little to do with good mental health care in that facility. Great thing about literature is the games you can play with the language. Kesey created a classic type when he dreamed up a twisted nurse by the name of "Ratched."

Chewing gum or salmon, anyone?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 10:44 AM

Nurse Rached

I'm not sure that Giok's brain is actually in his cranium, it's probably in the object that he wanted to be left alone to errect.

I'm also sure that if you go about things in the right manner, he will comply and offer no resistance.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: freda underhill
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 08:35 AM

Nurse Ratched, I am a sceptic. I'm telling you, not only are you a figment of someone's imagination, you're a delusion.

I'm turning the video off. now everyone roll over and get some sleep.

fred


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: GUEST,Nurse Ratched
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 08:26 AM

I am looking for Giok, with my cranial saw in hand. I find in this hospital some ignorant patients who do not understand that I am good for them. there is no use resisting, you must comply.

I provide the following reference from Professor Hernia Hesse, of Harvard:

"History will show that women who procured stature and power in society have always struggled to keep their position, and those who tried to topple these women from their lofty perch were, more than likely, always men. It is the same in Ken Kesey's novel, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, in which the character, Nurse Ratched, struggles to keep her self-constructed domain together after an opposing enemy, named McMurphy, fights to pull power from her by causing a revolt.

In the end, Nurse Ratched wins the battle between her and McMurphy by having him lobotomized, but does she really win the age-old battle of male versus female by suppressing him? Another question is: Why do readers see Nurse Ratched as an evil and conniving woman for trying to save her own self-constructed domain? Feminist critics point out that Kesey's portrayal of Nurse Ratched is degrading because they truly believe she represents the negative personification of the female struggle for power.

However, there is a need to look at Nurse Ratched from a different point of view and reveal the positive qualities that Kesey is trying to portray in women through Nurse Ratched. If we analyze the sexist language used to describe Nurse Ratched from a positive female perspective, we would notice that the control and power she uses is to maintain order in a chaotic environment that the men have created in her self-constructed domain.

Though the men on the ward see her as a dominating dictator, as readers, we need to take a leap of faith in order to understand that her dominating attitude is a calculated move to maintain order, which in turn, can be considered a positive character trait. Nurse Ratched is battling the males in order to gain respect, keep her control over the ward, and to show readers that a woman must defend and fight in order to succeed, which in turn, should be viewed as a positive character trait and not a negative one. "
   
Professor Hesse is mistaken in only one point.. he seems to think I am a character of fiction, not a real person, aah, but then he was my patient in 1972... now he thinks ecerything is a work of fiction.... ha ha ha ha HA HA HAAAAA.........................

N.R.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: GUEST,bleary and weary...
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 08:05 AM

who is this damned nurse ratched i thought? a figment of Ken Kesey's imagination?

I see her coming towards me.. is she real or is this the morphine?
An authoritative voice spoke in my head. It said that the screenwriter Bo Goldman who created her for 1 Flew Over Cuckoo's Hernia said his first encounter with nursing was with a labor and delivery nurse who attended his newborn brother. "She was terrifying. She was huge and scary. ... She was obsessive about sanitation. The baby was always clean. The blanket was always clean and everything had to be clean." Some images are hard to shake.

Nurse Ratched in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest," said the voice, has become almost synonymous with the disciplinarian medical professional—a nurse whose unyielding worldview and sadism, when unchecked, could provoke a homicidal meltdown in her emotionally regressed patients.

To bring the character from Ken Kesey's novel to the screen, Goldman based Nurse Ratched in part on his imperious mother-in-law. "I always thought of [Nurse Ratched] as a nurse second and a control freak first," Goldman said. "She was a terrifying woman, an emasculating and castrating creature."

"I think that every lawyer is a criminal and in any doctor there is a sadist," he said. "In every nurse—never mind Florence Nightingale or Mother Teresa—is a sadist's accomplice."

...this bed is uncomfortable - my limbs are aching.... where is my teddy bear?

dreary and teary....


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: GUEST,Hypomaniac
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 07:32 AM

i'm lying on these sweaty sheets
my lymph glands are a drainin
the morphine drip is in my mind
and angels are a rainin
my torso has been sliced in two
and stitched back up a little
i want to sleep but here comes nurse
with instruments down her middle
her bony finger prods my arm
she straps a cord around
and when i wheeze a little gasp
she says shut up don't moan
Nurse Ratched through this bleary daze
i while away my weary days
and long to be upright and tall
and never feel your evil maul
but then i squeeze that morphine drip
my god i think she's had a sip......
aaaagh....


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 07:18 AM

There's a great song that Sic Transit sing about a guy who's got every ailment - except that "Hypochondr-i-ay I sure ain't got". It's written by Clive Lever so I'll see if I can get him or Don Thomson (Wyziwyg - with a z) to post the lyrics.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 12:32 AM

Does chemo nausea count? The worst thing is, the stuff they give me to keep me from getting sick MAKES ME SICK! Gives me one huge headache! Nuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrsssssssssssssseeeeeeeeee! I'll take some cranberry juice in my IV and some Chevas Regal. OOHHH and a back rub while you are at it!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 18 Feb 04 - 07:10 PM

Well I got some new glasses today. Instant result, my headache has gone! Stupid thing is, the prescription is weaker than my previous one, so I guess I was just getting lazy.

Hook up the champers in the ol' IV there, I feel an infarction coming on!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: MAG
Date: 18 Feb 04 - 05:54 PM

I guess I'm one a' them mal things too; my doc said I had a persistent virus and sent me home with this little inhaler that makes me cough stuff up.

I don't want to cough on anybody, though I'm probably way past contagious, so I'll trot on -- er, stroll on -- to another thread.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Feb 04 - 03:56 PM

I will pass on enumerating my various and sundry scars. Being a pasty-white Scandinavian none of them shows up now anyway.

Liz, if any of those Legos are left on the hard cold floor in the dark this ward is going to light up with the curses of any poor Mudcatter who steps on them!

Kendall, it took you long enough to wander over here. I agree, you're probably too healthy to join this group of malingerers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: kendall
Date: 18 Feb 04 - 02:12 PM

Well, Jeez, considering all these ailments, I probably wont qualify for a bed. All I have is a rebuilt heart.


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Chief Chaos
Date: 18 Feb 04 - 01:56 PM

Hello, hello, hello
Doctor Chaos is making his rounds in his motorized pillcart with the goose horn and noddy dog on the back.
In his Doctors smock over scrubs, huge cigar, bushy eyebrows, bushy mustache and circle glasses bent over and chasing the nurse out of the ward.
I've got to make rounds to pay for my malpractice suit. A lady came to see me and said "Doctor I seem to have gained a little weight". I sent her home with some horse pills. She came back and said they gave her the trots. Another woman came to see me and said "Doctor I seem to be gaining a lot of weight." I sent her home with some diet pills. She came back a month later and said that she'd gone to a bank to open a new account and came back with twin baby boys, doctor what do you think of that? I said what a great bank, I usually only get a toaster. At the trial the judge looked at me and said "do you know anything about medicine?" I said no, but if you hum a few bars I'll fake it. He looked back and said "What must your parents think about you?" I said Judge I'm just a Doctor if you want to know what they're thinking you should ask a psychiatrist. If this trial goes on any longer I'm just going to have to take the fifth, and speaking of fifths, don't mind if I do! If you need me I'll be in the babery checking on the nurses, I mean in the nursery checking on the babies of course. Just squeeze the duck and I'll know its for me!


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: MAG
Date: 18 Feb 04 - 11:39 AM

Well, I gotta have a chest x-ray today because I'm still sick (three weeks now). I wouldn't have even bothered calling the doc except I worry about my voice.

Can I have Hennessey in my virtual IV?


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Subject: RE: BS: Mudcat Recovery Ward
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 18 Feb 04 - 05:24 AM

I have a 10" vertical scar down my tummy more or less centred on my navel - I'm glad it didn't go any further south ! This was the result of having a long chunk of colon removed (because of diverticulitis) about 10 years ago. They also removed my appendix because they had to move all my internal plumbing around so much that the place which it would have ended up would have meant that no doctor would have made a correct diagnosis of appendicitis.

One of my friends told me "You shouldn't have much of a scar - it's all keyhole surgery nowdays". It's just a pity that the keyhole would fit that ceremonial key they use to to give people "The Freedom of the City of London".


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