BS: Accountability in September -keep going!

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From: LilyFestre
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 07:56 PM

Yoga: 60 Minutes

Michelle

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From: katlaughing
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 07:22 PM

NEW THREAD Our Ninth Month!!!

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From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 05:52 PM

A whole mile and a half walked today... to and from the station AND the length of Tottenham Court Road Trouble is, the bookshop at the end of it took all my money.

But at least I have something to read on the train tomorrow morning!

LTS

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From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 12:23 PM

MAG, the SAD thread current now contains light specs info and cheaper alternatives.

Last night, a 6-aisles funeral romp, 30 minues AJ, and 5 more minutes TM, moving up to 1.9MPH. Not looking for speed-- working on posture improvements from BackHab to keep them on land. Goal is easy movement with correct form, and duration. The land work is just to build bone and endurance, and to keep Hardi company. Not the main aerobic event, in other words-- that's still in the water for cardiac/brain safety.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: MAG
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 12:15 PM

Yep, I'm toning up just fine. The weight isn't budging at the moment.

Sounds like for everybody things are on the up.

I tried Northern Lights in Canada for a 10,000 unit SAD light; they haven't returned my call.

What is the best source?

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From: maeve
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 06:25 AM

I'm glad you are feeling better, Liz.

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From: GUEST,LTS pretending to work
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 06:22 AM

Weigh in for me tomorrow... let's see how an evening of eating chocolates and a weekend of party food has affected me. The bad news is, my trousers are no longer falling down, but the good news is, my stomach hasn't hurt for several weeks - one of the symptoms of fatty liver disease that I was trying to get rid of....

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 08:23 PM

Hey Mag,

    I feel your pain. I've been at a standstill for months. It's frustrating and yet really, what are the options? I was working with a trainer doing strength training so my head knew that I was building muscles (which I KNOW boosts my metabolism and muscles weight more than fat but I was STILL frustrated), keeping a food journal, upping my activity...all that stuff. Nothing. It got so that when I weighed in (I do Weight Watchers), I was getting really pissed off. I decided to not weigh in for 6 weeks...just to continue going to the meetings and staying mindful. I wish I could tell you that when I stepped on that scale at the 7 week mark that I had a loss, but nope. It did come though, later than I would have liked, but a loss did come. Now, I have to say also, that in the meantime while the scale was not budging was when my clothing sizes were dropping away so I knew SOMETHING was happening...it just wasn't at the scale. My best advice is to be patient with yourself, try new things, take an honest look at your intake and activity levels and see how your clothes are fitting.

My activity for the day: Moving boxes and 60 minutes of power yoga (and she kicked our asses tonight...my mat was so slippery with sweat that I slid halfway off during child pose [rest time])!!! It's all good...very, very GOOD!

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 03:16 PM

BTW, that ten minutes on the treadmill is a real accomplishment: enough time has elapsed since I did it that I know now that I have developed the muscles, metabolism, and bone density to do it with no afterpain. New shoes along the way with special shock-absorption helped too. And that means I can do more.

It also means that I can accept Hardi's nightly invite to go TM while he skis-- which we have been wanting to do in tandem for...... when did I get that TM?..... since May of 2007.

So when I say that things may take some time-- well, I really DID learn eveything I know, the hard way. Despite illnesses, injuries, strokes, and the vagaries of clergy-life-schedules-- it can be done.

So, everyone else-- HANG IN THERE.

Tonight, aquarunning. And more TM when we get back.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 02:53 PM

I seem stuck at 220 lb -- same thing I said to Gnu; stick to food plan and sooner or later the body WILL let go of the weight.


I'm quoting this not to single out MAG, but to make a couple of general comments-- learned the hard way-- that may help someone else.

1. It may be that you are actually muscling up but that the clothing change isn't obvious yet. If so, you HAVE lost fat, and THAT is the muscle that will soon start to burn off the rest of the fat (because your metabolism will rise). The first spot to measure to see this is not the scale-- it's a high-waisted line around you, just below your boobs. For women, it's where the lower band of the bra would sit. For men, it's where the bra band would sit if you put a bra on. Why? Because that is the most accessible spot where fat has built up that is not also subject to the sags of gravity that may fool your measuring tape. THAT is the measurement to take periodically to watch your progress. The rest of the bodyfat melts at different rates, depending on your body type. So changes in clothing size may or may not always reflect your progress accurately, but this one measurement WILL.

2. It may be that your RATE of food comsumption does not encourage a long, slow burn of calories all day, overwhelming your body's insulin production. It cannot hurt, and may help, to divide each meal into two portions. Have the first half, a half-hour earlier than your planned meal. (Before you get hungry, in other words.) Have the second half about 2 hours later. If this must be done at work, it will take some time before you accumulate a lot of creative approaches that will work for you, but try it and you will start to see fat melt.

3. It may be that the COMPOSITION of your food plan does not encourage the long, slow burn. It's easily fixed: a fruit, a carb, and a protein in EVERY meal or snack. A whole-fruit, not a fruit juice. It can be canned (drained), or dried, but you need the fiber in it for the slower burn. How much? Half a banana, half a grapefruit or less, half an orange, a whole plum, etc. (Think plum-size for your fruit portion.) Or it may be that you do not process carbs well. IF YOU ARE EXERCISING you need those carbs, so plan how much you need, apportion it out over the whole day, and eat it. If it gives you cravings for more, that are not in your plan-- eat the whole-grain, high-fiber substitute that will slow down the burn.

4. It may be that your portion sizes are too big. The simplest way to fix this is to measure out a week's worth of meals ahead of time and eat only what you have planned to eat. If still hungry at the end of a meal, add the hated salad with plain lemon juice and herbs as dressing, to fill you up. If you have divided your total planned food for the day into small enough quantities per meal, you will find that you really do not get that hungry. Make friends with air-popped popcorn. Use only olive oil as the fats for each day because they're good for you, and use at least a total of 2 tablespooons of that each day because otherwise your fat-soluble vitamins will not absorb in your body. A little spray of it here, a little there, and your food will taste fine. And here is a tip on cheese-- don't buy that horrible skim-milk crap. (The only dairy that's yummy, nonfat, is yogurt!!!) Buy the good stuff, but buy it feather-shredded. You will use so much less, while it looks like a lot, that you will not believe how long it takes you to finish up the large bagful. Keep it in the freezer so it's not in plain sight in your fridge and it will stretch even longer.

5. It may be-- and this is usually the doctor's or the dietician's FIRST accusation-- that you are eating or drinking things not in your plan. Keep a diary just for one week, just for yourself, to check what extras you may be drawn to. And then plan healthy subsitutes you will be happy to have instead.

6. If ALL THAT doesn't start to work within a couple of months, it's time to get the endocrine system checked out. It may also be time to make a consutative appointment wiht a trainer to make sure you are exercising in the right range for your goals. You may be exercising so hard that you are in an anaerobic zone-- the one where you burn nothing and end up starved? Check it out. You may have gone at this so hard that you're not burning any fat!

7. Food is your friend. Make friends with it. Learn all about it, and fill up on the parts of it that are good for you. Treat is like a necessary evil, or, conversely, like your new love.

8. DON'T try to lose too fast. All you will do is confuse yourself into the next yo-yo of gain (physiologically), and burn up heart muscle. Aim for an initial loss of 10% of your weight. Then maintain that awhile. Only when that maintenance is easy should you go after the next 10%. That way you benefit your hypertension, you allow maximum skin shrinkage, you protext your cardiac status, and you build the habits into your life.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Eye Lander
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 01:56 PM

Ok you lot!!! Own up. WHO has lost 3 1/2 lb. No need for a reward, I found it sitting on my bathroom scales this morning.

If you wish to claim it back PM me.

:-(((

Jillie

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From: maeve
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 01:34 PM

Housecleaning complete with vacuuming, box moving, general cleaning...

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From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 01:18 PM

Me, TM @1.7MPH, 10 minutes in front of sunbulbs.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: MAG
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 12:26 PM

I seem stuck at 220 lb -- same thing I said to Gnu; stick to food plan and sooner or later the body WILL let go of the weight.

Gym today; I try to do the anutilus circuit every other day, plus a warmup and cooldown on the elliptical trainer (less impact than the treadmill).

One kitten will now climb on my lap but they all scatter when I pet them. Mama cat not with them anymore.

Today's project is shampooing the living room rug. My (inside) cat has a thing for knocking stuff over, including my large sodas. Plus laundry and dishes. We'll see how far I get.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 11:04 AM

Sadie TM @2.5MPH, 56 happy minutes. Faulkner TM @2.0MPH, 5 nervous minutes. Me, straightening up the space and planning my use of it.

Hardi also has a Nordic Track Pro skiing machine out there, that he uses nightly with fast work and intervals. We bought the treadmill used, and the ski-er was given to him by a parishioner who's moving. They are both gym quality.

We have all sorts of hand weights, cuff weights, a Bullworker, a door-mounted springy thingie, music machines, heavy-duty fans, and (soon), cold air. I need to set some wipe-towels out there, a stock of refilled water bottles, and a dog-water bowl! The chart paper for our progress notes and affirmations is out there already.

It has a recliner for workout breaks and a couch the dogs are allowed to pounge on as well. Ypto? Yes, sort of: pounce/lounge. Chez Pounge. (stroke- brain synthesizing)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 08:31 PM

40 smokin' AJ minutes, FAST.

~S~

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From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 04:08 PM

Walking - 30 minutes!

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From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 08:52 AM

Dogs, treadmill: Faulkner 5 minutes, Sadie 15. Me, managing them. All under full-spectrum lighting. Incorporating this into the daily routine. Treadmill-hating Faulkner, watching Sadie and hearing happy-pants: "Me too! Me first next time!"

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 12:22 AM

I've dropped five pounds, so far!

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From: maeve
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 10:40 PM

I am impressed, and so happy for your successful life change. No wonder you are so active in your pursuit and enjoyment of an active lifestyle.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 10:14 PM

Hi Guys,

   Not long ago, someone asked for new pictures. I sent some to put up here in the photo section but for whatever reason that hasn't happened just yet. Here's a link to some of my progress photos...the newest one taken maybe 3 weeks ago.

Progress Photos

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: maeve
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 07:12 PM

I spent most of the day preparing for the rain and wind that has begun moving through our area. I harvested the Rattlesnake beans for drying (and forgot the Scarlet Runners), shucked the multicolored flour and meal corn varieties and hung them to dry.

Carried in most of the tomatoes, weeded weeded weeded, brought in anise hyssop and lemon balm (melissa) to pick the leaves for winter tea, Covered the Garden Peach and Black Cherry tomatoes to keep them dry and ripening.

And I slept for two whole hours.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 06:39 PM

Yoga: 60 Minutes

Michelle

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From: maeve
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 08:11 PM

Four hours of moving plants and pots, clearing the corn patches, hauling approx. 100 pounds of composting materials from the house to the north compost pile, moving mulch hay, weeding the asaparagus bed, getting cider apples and cooking pears under cover, etc.

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From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 07:57 PM

Despite hardly any movement and going over on my points one day, I know I have lost some more. Tomorrow is my weigh in day.

I managed 4 lousy minutes on the treadmill. My feet still hurt,but the good news is I switched shoes and my hips and lower back feel much better. I am going to get one of these or, something like it. I used one in cardiac rehab and it was okay. My body is really upset about not moving more...I can tell it's raring to go...now if I could just get the nerves to chill out. I feel discouraged...still using oxygen from the pneumonia and sore feet. I keep thinking with weight loss it's got to get better, right? That seems logical, so that's what I will concentrate on. Thanks for listening while I *think* out loud!

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 07:25 PM

Down 3.4 pounds this week!

Michelle :)

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From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 Sep 08 - 11:08 PM

30 aquajogging, 30 Ai Chi

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Sep 08 - 10:04 PM

Terrible backsliding today... involved in some filming for an advert for a chain of supermarkets, the 'Christmas' ads.. lots of mulled wine and chocolates. I don't eat mince pies so I was filmed eating chocolates. Of course, there were many takes, and for continuity I had to have a plate full of chocolates... so of course, I ate chocolates...

However, I must have walked another mile and my trousers are still falling down so I'm pretty sure things aren't too bad.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 24 Sep 08 - 08:01 PM

More yoga today. :)

Michelle

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From: maeve
Date: 24 Sep 08 - 09:28 AM

Walking quickly around the lumberyard, several packages of roofing shingles shifted, up and down the ladder, hammering, bending and reaching. Stood for half an hour admiring a very nice washing machine. Dreamed of watching dirty laundry wash itself clean.

Harvesting beans and tomatoes, prepping and freezing beans, lots of standing, walking, etc. Kneeling to do laundry, vigorous use of the scrub boards, rinsing, wringing, hanging our heavy jeans and towels...

I eat small portions of good quality food, seldom get sick, with physical work from early in the morning unti late at night. My metabolism is still slow and the excess weight won't shift. Either I must eat even less or work even more or both. The nutritionist says our meals and portions are right for us.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Sep 08 - 03:48 AM

Ah yes.. I'm discovering that weekends are the killer... another blurge this weekend with no excuses this time, just sheer laziness.

Still, I'm half a stone lighter than I was 6 weeks ago and my trousers AND knickers keep falling down. It can't all be the elastic.

Maybe the walking to the train station is the key... it's certainly saved me some money in bus fares!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 23 Sep 08 - 07:51 PM

Yoga: 60 Minutes
Moved 11 more boxes out, cleaned out the darkroom, carted all that stuff downstairs. I have no idea how many trips I made up and down stairs today....a bunch anyway!

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 22 Sep 08 - 07:38 PM

Ashtanga Yoga: 60 Minutes
Moving boxes from house into storage: 60 Minutes (17 trips upstairs)

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: MAG
Date: 22 Sep 08 - 11:42 AM

Glad you're off that plateau, Gnu. Keep at it and eventually your body just gives in and lets go the weight.

I'm freshening this thread so it will be here later today after I have climbed back on that horse and know how much ground I lost on a binge this weekend.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 02:01 PM

Way to go, gnu!!!

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From: gnu
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 01:34 PM

I broke the 40 pound barrier today. Been stalled at 40 pounds down, and NO way I could break it... since May. Only by one pound, but it's a new start.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Sep 08 - 05:32 PM

I was going to start wearing my pedometer but it needs new battery. You ought to wear one, Susan...then all those steps would be counted and you'd know...all those aisles, etc. do count!

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From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Sep 08 - 05:29 PM

Well, I romped around another funeral today-- the amount of walking oughtta count for something. I should measure those aisles and count how many times I hit 'em. At least a dozen per funeral, often a lot more; and if it includes graveside-- that can be big mileage.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Sep 08 - 05:23 PM

Another pound gone!

Walking and pushing a cart whilst doing so - 20 minutes

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From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Sep 08 - 06:56 PM

Thanks!

Two hours running around, walking, shopping, and playing with Morgan oughta count for something!

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From: LilyFestre
Date: 19 Sep 08 - 06:50 PM

WOO HOOO Kat!!!!

    No formal activity today but I did teach all day, work at the spaghetti dinner and am now off to the Lynard Skynard concert when I plan to dance my ass off and have some FUN!!!

WOOOO HOOOO!!!!

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Sep 08 - 11:19 AM

Happy Birthday, MAG!

In two weeks, I have lost 4.4 pounds! Very happy about that!

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: MAG
Date: 19 Sep 08 - 10:17 AM

When my pants got loose I invested in a very long belt. I'm still using it, and the pants, but they're pretty saggy.

Tomorrow is my 60th birthday; maybe I'll invest in some new pants??

Too tired to do much of anything this week, and have lost time off of work due to sleep issues.

Off to work where I will start the day with a pot of espresso ...

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: GUEST,LTS pretending to work
Date: 19 Sep 08 - 07:30 AM

Ah.. keeping it up.. that's a problem I'm having this week.. keeping my trousers up.

I may have to invest in some more elastic... it's a bit too soon to start taking them in I think.... and it's more likely to be the elastic - that was the problem with my knickers.

However, another half mile yesterday carrying bags of fruit and veg from the market, reversed this morning sans half the fruit.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 19 Sep 08 - 06:47 AM

Well done for losing the weight.Keep it up.

Scooby

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 19 Sep 08 - 06:42 AM

Hey Jillie,

    I have emailed a new photo to be posted here in the photo section but last I checked, it wasn't up yet.

:) Michelle

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From: Eye Lander
Date: 19 Sep 08 - 06:13 AM

Hey Michelle, well done. When are you updating your photo file? You must look different now from when we last saw it.

Jillie

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 18 Sep 08 - 08:05 PM

No activity today other than work (which in itself is sometimes a workout) due to a cold that has settled in my chest. I am, however, down 3.3 pounds this week.

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: GUEST,LTS pretending to work
Date: 18 Sep 08 - 02:41 AM

Another 2lbs lost (total of 6.5 lbs loss since Aug 1st) despite a weekend of curry, pizza and Black Forest gateaux.

And another half mile walked briskly this morning. It's too chilly at 6.00am now to dawdle at the bus stop.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 11:47 PM

15 minutes BackHab, 30 minutes Aquarunning at 160BPM+, 15 minutes Ai Chi. Attic chores.

~S~