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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 16 Sep 10 - 09:10 AM Richard S. Anderson (Democrap) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 16 Sep 10 - 08:51 AM Well, you didn't get my logic, at all....Let's try yours....... Bobert: "I can see the ad now... "Sex For Life" "Tried everything on the market but still having problems with your wife in the bedroom??? Just go out and run the mower over her........" Then just convince yourself that she was really a Republicunt, in secret all along! Wink, GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Bobert Date: 16 Sep 10 - 08:37 AM I can see the ad now... "Sex For Life" Tried everything on the market but still having problems with your wife in the bedroom??? Just go out and run the mower over all her stuff in the yard and see what an improvement sex can be like for her afterwards.... Guarenteed or double your money back!!! Hmmmmmmmm??? I am beginnin' to see the logic in yer thinkin', GfinS... Not... B;~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 16 Sep 10 - 12:25 AM Bobert: "Hey, I hear they got Viagra for womenz??? Like what do womenz need that stuff fir???" Well, probably because some women have to argue with their ol' men about mowing the yard...and picking up the stuff in it, before they mow!! Wink, GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Bobert Date: 15 Sep 10 - 07:56 PM LOL, GfinS... You been sniffin' 'round my medicine cabinet??? Hey, I hear they got Viagra for womenz??? Like what do womenz need that stuff fir??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 15 Sep 10 - 12:35 PM Bobert: "I'm young and able To buzz all night long Yeah, I'm young and able To Buzz all night long If ya' hear me buzzin', baby There's some stingin' going on Sounds like a 'King Bee' Viagra jingle! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Bobert Date: 15 Sep 10 - 12:29 PM I don't see where liberals have ever thought it a good idea to have a "stupid" woman run for much of anything in the way of a government position... The "chastity belts" comments was in regards to the Delaware primary where the Tea Party lady who won it is for 100% abstinence until marriage... I mean, what else can ya do short of lockin' everyone up until they are married??? As fir "the old love to give advice to the young, which the old are no longer in shape to do"??? I'm young and able To buzz all night long Yeah, I'm young and able To Buzz all night long If ya' hear me buzzin', baby There's some stingin' going on B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 15 Sep 10 - 12:20 PM I think there's much ado about nothing, in regards to the Tea Partiers. I don't think they will win so much to control anything, BUT it does show the discontent with the two parties, as they are now. Ross Perot did that a few elections ago, and got Bill Clinton elected, if you remember. As far as Palin is concerned, I think it comical to watch the Demoraps squirm in their boots over her. Finally a woman runs(whether it be her mouth, or for office), and all the 'libs' who've been pushing for a woman, get her! She certainly has more appeal, than Hillary, who in my opinion is as crooked, and corrupt as they come, while Palin comes off in a different light. Palin is more of a 'pep talker', sort of the 'Glee Club' for the 'right', while Hillary is just the 'token bitch' for the 'left'. Of the two, ..hmmm....jeez, have to think about that one...... Can't we vote for, "None of the above?" ......Hmm...still thinking....... ...I guess it would come down to a matter of 'trust'..... ....hmmm....still thinking........................ GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Donuel Date: 15 Sep 10 - 12:06 PM Perhaps only 6 tea party candidates will make it to Congress. Imagine the reaction of senior Republican chairmen who not only will get no respect from these freshman, they will be subjected to disdain and a total ingnorance of procedure, protocol and even an iota of civility... which has already become nearly extinct in the Republican House. The tea party is about at its zenith since the mission they are on is at cross purposes with itself on two important facts. 1 IT has no leader (unless it is beck Palin and Rush) and 2 they are against the very notion of the job they were elected to do. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 15 Sep 10 - 11:58 AM Bobert: "What??? Chastity belts???" The old love to give advice to the young, which the old are no longer in shape to do! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 15 Sep 10 - 11:48 AM Quite frankly, I don't see why a lot of you are demonizing the Tea Party....Chances are, they will split the Rebulicunt vote, and Obama will get re-elected, without Biden, however, because the Democraps will lose the House and Senate, in this upcoming election, he will not be able to accomplish much(damage). The thought for the day.... GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 15 Sep 10 - 11:45 AM |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Bobert Date: 15 Sep 10 - 08:52 AM Yeah, Donuel... This think is kinda backfiring on Dick Armey and Co... I just wondering what is going to happen when a few of these Tea-liban folks get into office with their extreme positions on policies that, frankly, other than their bumper sticker menatlities, are ill-equiped to deal with at a policy level... What??? Chastity belts??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Donuel Date: 14 Sep 10 - 11:05 PM As the Tea party demonizes all FAT LAZY RHINO Republicans we will see candidates like Ms. Christine O'Donell who just won the nomination for Deleware Seneator in the US COngress. She is for total abstinence which includes abstinence from oneself since Bible Law states that any sex outside of marriage is against God's law. Republican think tanks like the Hoover Institute are rueing the day that Dick Army created the Tea Party which was first designed to offer a short term replacement for the tattered damage goods of the Republican Party after Bush. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Bobert Date: 14 Sep 10 - 07:59 AM Be sweet... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 Sep 10 - 03:30 AM Bobs: "For the record, I ain't even a Dem... But I'm alot closer to a Dem than a Repub....." Where am I?..Where's my computer? Actually I'm closer to the truth...these two groups are just too full of shit, for me!!! Regards, GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Bobert Date: 13 Sep 10 - 12:55 PM I didn't realize the Robert F. Kennedy School had anything to do with either Dems or Repubs, GfinS... It was a bad decission... Period... For the record, I ain't even a Dem... But I'm alot closer to a Dem than a Repub 'cause there isn't much in the way of Repub policies where I find any agreement... BTW, I can small a Repub talkin' point a mile away... I hear them every day and read them in the local newspaper... I am almost completely surrounded by Repubs... You can't get elected to even dogcatcher in Page County unless yer a repub (or say you are)... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 13 Sep 10 - 12:00 PM Bobert, Your partisan politics, including the thread-bare mantra of blaming one side, as opposed to the other, of every single ill, of this country, has been over the top, and has COMPLETELY made you totally NOT believable. If you want ANY credibility, I'd suggest looking at the whole picture, instead of promoting just the Democrap talking points, which are in serious need of reality. I'm not the only one who has pointed this out to you, so it's not just 'you versus me'. If you want to promote one party exclusively, you close an eye to the bigger picture, therefore becoming half blind! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Bobert Date: 13 Sep 10 - 08:41 AM The problem is that in seeking out just the goof-ups and trying to make them the poster child for the entire educational system isn't at all fair or unbiased... I mean, the Robert F. Kennedy School is certainly not representative of new school construction accross the country... BTW, looks as if Beonher has blinked on yje Bush tax cuts for the rich and now says he would vote to end them if such legislation should come up for a vote... Of course, I understand that such a bill would have to come in the form of extending tax cuts to folks making less than $250,000 a year... No matter, looks as if the Repubs polling let them know that they were not in line with public sentiment and had them in a major pickle... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 13 Sep 10 - 01:34 AM Oh Bobert, Either you can't see, for some twisted reason why this: "At $578 million the Robert F. Kennedy School in Los Angeles is the most expensive public school ever built in America. It features a high-tech swimming pool, vaulted ceilings, a chic auditorium, and countless luxury amenities. This public school was constructed at a time when the district faces a $640 million deficit. Unfortunately, the profligate spending on the Robert F. Kennedy public school is NOT an isolated case. Los Angeles taxpayers are also on the hook for a $232 million Visual and Performing Arts High School as well as the $377 million Edward Roybal Learning Center. Such fiscal excess will NOT improve learning at a time when only 15 percent of 8th graders are proficient in reading and LESS THAN HALF of students graduate high school." Is not solving ANY educational problems...or you need some professional help! I don't even need your explanation, you will only further embarrass yourself, and you don't need to do that (any more). If you think that this kind of waste is just a Republican 'talking point', and dismiss it at that, perhaps you can tell that to the folks in California, whose state is BROKE! If you can convince them of that, pull that off, maybe you should be the Governor's press secretary!!...Shit, maybe even run for President, and join the list of liars who have gotten away with murder!...phony wars, and bullshit bailouts.....maybe then you can convince the nation that the high unemployment rate is a blessing from the Democraps, and they are really a lot happier, thank they think they are...and re-elect you for a ninth term! Really, Bobs, come to your senses! However Regards, GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Bobert Date: 12 Sep 10 - 10:06 PM Nah, GfinS... It ain't about "throwin'" monet at any problem... It's callin' the Repun talkin' points where they try to disassmble the New Deal by harpin' over and over and over "Ya' can't fix __________ by throwin' money at it"... That, my dear, is 100%, unalterated, pure Republican talkin' ponts... Yeah. you might want to think yerself all "classless and free" but you are spinnin' Republican talking points here... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: akenaton Date: 12 Sep 10 - 04:23 PM :0).....Stop diggin' Don! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 12 Sep 10 - 03:41 PM Well, I wasn't asking on how your vegetable garden was doing. Wink, GfS P.S. But, was almost wondering if you won a blue ribbon at the county fair, with it..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Don Firth Date: 12 Sep 10 - 03:02 PM Been there. Done that. Grew a brain long ago. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 12 Sep 10 - 01:49 PM That's Ok, Don...but you usually wear 'not so hip' waders! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Don Firth Date: 12 Sep 10 - 01:53 AM I was thinking about jumping into this thread, but I've changed my mind. My hip-waders are at the cleaners. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 11 Sep 10 - 11:46 PM Bobert, Have another drink! I'm not talking Republicunts and Democraps, or any other nonsense. You think throwing away tons of OUR tax money om over inflated school projects is Ok?...Well Ok. You think that kids learn by osmosis, being in luxurious classrooms, is anything more than some contractor getting greased, by some politician that he corrupted to get a project like that, well go ahead and think that. Loony bins are filled with that kind of thinking, and probably at taxpayers expense, as well. It's ALL government waste, at the behest of crooked business! So, Bottoms up, have another swig, and you too can be a legend in your own Wine, as well. No wonder you have stupid arguments with the Ol' Lady about mowing the yard, you're probably waiting for a government funded program to send some one over to do it for you.......hiccup...... P.S. Don't drive tonight! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Bobert Date: 11 Sep 10 - 08:47 PM And at the risk of rilin' up GfinS, this notion that "spending more money won't fix ____________" is a Repub talkin' point... If they can get an "amen" to that then they have a clear field to suggest cuttin' this or that "domestic" spending... That can be problematic... I mean, there are one boat load of inner city schools that are in crappy condition.... And they are in crappy neighborhoods... Yeah, we were supposed to be desegregating schools but that hasn't quite happened... Bottom line??? Yeah, we have some very lousy underfunded schools with kids from homes that folks here in Mudcat can only imagine... That is reality... So along come Mr. Beohner (or yer Repub of choice) and says "Money can't fix everything" and then the folks in the Peanut Gallery's heads start noddin' like them plastic dolls that folks put in the back windows of their cars and next thing ya' know everyone wnats to strip the underfunded, underachieving school of any money at all??? Like shut the sumabich down... We got lotta that going on... We also have vouchers and charter schools... Charter schools are nuthin' but "scab" run schools with under-certified teachers.... So we are spending tax dollars to "buy" crappy teachers... Okay, that's not exactly fair... Many of the teachers in charter schools are very good... The point is that if a teacher is good then why can't we come up with a system that allows that teacher to teach in a public school??? I mean, that would be some real progress... Might of fact, why not pay them a little more and put them into that underfunded, underachieving public school in the "hood"??? Serious business... We should be lookin' at those kinds of things... Yeah, the Teacher's Union don't wnat no "scab" teacher no matter how good he/she is but, hey... Like I have said, we gotta think outside the box here... BTW, thinkin' outta the box, I been rethinking Huxley's "Brave New World" and I think we are either there or very close to being there and we are failin the "epsilons" because they just don't get it, they don't want to get it and their mamma and daddies have bought into the story that education ain't worth a flip so... ... here's a novel idea... How about expanding the Job Corps about 10 fold and when Johnny ain't learned squat by the 8th grade and he's in the back of the classroom with a needle and some ink making tatoos on himself then rather than try to get Johnny to the 9th grade why not just send him on to learn a trade??? (Horrors, Boberdz... What??? You gonna just give up on Johnny???) No, I'm not... I'm going to give him some skills so he doesn't think that breakin' into my barn, stealin' my prized Stihl chainsaw and sellin' it for $50 ain't like Johnny's career choice... I mean, college ain't fir everyone and these days, high school might not be either... Job Corps gives kids other info... Like balencing a checkbook... Like fillin' out an application... You know... Life skills that aren't being taught to Johnny in a high school settin'... There, GfinS... Lot there fir you to pick on... Have at it... lol... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Amos Date: 11 Sep 10 - 05:35 PM Spending money on the Big War machine stimulated all kinds of jobs, many of them mortal. But spending money on that school, even if slightly off-target, was at least a more decent impulse than buying HE shells. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Bobert Date: 11 Sep 10 - 12:23 PM I agree, GfinS... Yeah, it isn't all Bush's faulth that the economy that he handed over to Obama was a gnat's eyelash away from flat-lining... It started with Reagan and everyone since, Slick Willie included, have just let it happen... Bush, however, actively aided in the demise with his tax cuts... Even Alan Greenspan was against them until being called to the Oval Office for some rubber-hose treatment... That was a fiscally irresponsible move on Bush's part and now we look back and see that those tax cuts didn't produce all them jobs afterall... What created those jobs was borrowed money and the housing market... Not tax cuts... As for education??? Yeah, it's not "all about" money but there are some basic standards that need to me maintained that does require money... But alot of stuff like things that Michelle Rhee is doing in DC aren't about money but about different systems and methods... With that said, just assuming that all, or even most, of the money that is going into public education is being wasted is not at all accurate... Most of the money is being spent wisely... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 11 Sep 10 - 01:31 AM Bobert: "No, Dougie... The person who is responsible for the economic woes since Obama has been in office is good ol'... ...George W...." Poppycock!...It started long before him! Jeez, Are all the Democraps talking points centered around "It was Bush's fault?"...and NO!.I wasn't too crazy about Bush, either, but come on, get real. Whenever I hear a 'liberal' sucker, blabber about "It was all George Bush's fault(like a broken record), it tells me, right off the bat, that this is a moronic, duped parrot! So, come on Bobert, show some better sense. I think you're more intelligent than that! Amos Lightfoot: "...it was your friend George W. Obama......" Inadvertently, you are absolutely CORRECT. Take a bow!!! Doug R: "I realize most of my liberal friends are concerned and disappointed but I believe the Obama administration misread the political philosophy of the majority of American people." Correction, if you will: Actually, the Obama administration doesn't give a flying fuck in a Rat's ass about the, "political philosophy of the majority of American people."......or were you just being polite? Oh, and BOBERT, you want more money for education??..and wonder why it just doesn't help??? Get a load of this CRAP!!!!: "Half-Billion Dollar Schools Can't Fix American Education Sept. 10, 2010 At $578 million the Robert F. Kennedy School in Los Angeles is the most expensive public school ever built in America. It features a high-tech swimming pool, vaulted ceilings, a chic auditorium, and countless luxury amenities. This public school was constructed at a time when the district faces a $640 million deficit. Unfortunately, the profligate spending on the Robert F. Kennedy public school is NOT an isolated case. Los Angeles taxpayers are also on the hook for a $232 million Visual and Performing Arts High School as well as the $377 million Edward Roybal Learning Center. Such fiscal excess will NOT improve learning at a time when only 15 percent of 8th graders are proficient in reading and LESS THAN HALF of students graduate high school." Deomcrap legislature in California has done this, cowboy!...oh, and have screwed that state for decades, with the most ridiculous policies of fiscal irresponsibility!...and that my dear, folkie pal, is the absolute truth! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: DougR Date: 11 Sep 10 - 01:22 AM Bobert: If it makes you happy to blame GWB for the world's problems, okay by me. I want you to be happy. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Bobert Date: 10 Sep 10 - 08:14 PM No, Dougie... The person who is responsible for the economic woes since Obama has been in office is good ol'... ...George W.... That's the real story here... Face it, the fall of '08 was purdy scarey... The economy was collapsing all around us and folks were, frankly, purdy danged scared that the entire economy was goin' in the crapper... Obama's folks looked around and saw alot of problem areas... Even Obama said publically that he didn't think he was running for president just to spend his presdiency claening up after Bush... But that is what he is in the midst of doing... Of course, the American people are impatient... They have grown up accustomed to the government fixin' stuff and that's what we are in the midst of... Fixin' stuff... Hey, Dougie, it took 3 decades to make this mess so it ain't gonna get cleaned up overnight... But like most Americans, you think there is a magic wand that fixes everything that is broken... Well, I hate to tell ya' this, ol' buddy, but that magic wand don't exist... Paul Krugman is right... You don't fix defecits by diggin' a deeper hole... Extending the tax cuts to the rich, who BTW are just sittin' on piles of cashm ain't goin' fix no deficits... Gonna make 'um worse... Ain't rocket surgery here... BTW, I was listenin' to some financial program on NPR and they said that some guy is guarenteein' a 1% return on investments and has rich folks lined up at the ddor to plunk their buck there... That's 1%, Dougie... That tells ya' just how much cash the rich are fondlin' if they are lined up to get 1%... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Little Hawk Date: 10 Sep 10 - 08:11 PM It is the normal business of both parties to sucker the Independents into believing they are what they are not, Doug. ;-) The party that does a better job at it normally wins the election...specially if the public is heartily sick to death of the other party by then...and that will always happen after the other party's been in power awhile, specially when the economy tanks. That's sort of how it works here in Canada too. And probably everywhere else. Nothing kills a party's popularity like a severe economic downturn. It killed McCain in 2008, and it's killing Obama now. Incumbents always get blamed for a bad economy, whether or not the trouble got started in their own term. They are expected to do magic if they inherit a bad economy from the previous administration. ;-) Of course they can't. So they are usually screwed...unless they can get the USA involved in a new war. A war is a very good way of taking people's mind off a bad economy, not to mention providing defence-related jobs. Or should I say offence-related jobs? But it's got to be timed right. George H. W. Bush's war on Iraq, for instance, didn't last long enough to keep his popularity high very long, and the economy took a nosedive after that war was over. Now, if Obama could just get a REALLY nasty war with Iran happening....maybe drop a nuke or two...I'm sure that would be sufficient to get people to rally round the administration. It might require some sort of overt attack on America by someone first, though, one that could be blamed on Iran. That would work far better than anything else he could come up with. He is not going to be able to pull a genie out of a bottle and fix this economy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: DougR Date: 10 Sep 10 - 07:30 PM Paul Krugman, Bobert? He promotes the economic philosophy that has caused the economy to struggle since Obama has been president! It hasn't worked. Yes, LH, I realize "liberal" and "conservative" have different meanings depending upon the country one lives in but where Obama screwed up is he "suckered" the Independents into believing he was what he is not. And he lost that large block of support as a result. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Amos Date: 10 Sep 10 - 05:39 PM Exkyuuuze me, but the divisions in this nation date back to Reagan, and if anyone ever asserted they were a uniter who proved to be divisive, it was your friend George W. Obama asserted there are not a blue and a red America--there is a United States. A lot of people cheered him for that but a large number--perhaps 40% set out very loudly to prove him wrong at every turn, and to prove how divided they felt. I think p'raps you ar ebeing a bit disingenuous. My concern is not that Obama has divided the country, but that a country divided against itself has prevented even the most talented of leaders from making as much headway as he could have otherwise done. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Little Hawk Date: 10 Sep 10 - 05:31 PM Every candidate runs for office as a uniter, Doug. That's standard election-time feelgood propaganda. Besides....who doesn't think, in his more optimistic moments, that he can unite the country behind him? Would anyone run for president who didn't think that he could unite the country behind him????? When they get into office, however, they must serve huge vested interests such as major corporations, banks, the Dept of Defence, etc....NOT the public. They must. That's the way the $ySSTEm works. This is why they cannot unite the country. They're not serving the interests of most of the people IN the country. And besides...there's always that pesky other party, which will make it pretty well impossible for the one in power to actually get much done most of the time. It's a situation 100% guaranteed NOT to unite the country. The only thing on Earth that can unite the USA is a sudden and vicious attack on America by some foreign power (or someone pretending to be some foreign power). 911, for example. That united the country for awhile. So did Pearl Harbour. You're dreaming when you say Obama's "liberal". LOL!!!!! His policies would certainly not be seen as liberal anywhere except in the USA. He is somewhat right of center, Doug...a little bit right of center. But he is essentially exactly what he "pretended" to be. He's a centrist. The reason Mudcatters are disappointed is because he has, indeed, proven NOT to be a genuine liberal....he just sounds like one. (He's an excellent speaker.) Sounding like a liberal, of course, is all it takes to fool any American conservative into imagining you're the next thing to a blood-drinking Communist, because they don't even know what a liberal is. ;-) It's a phantasm that haunts their dreams and it bears no resemblance to reality. p.s. - I'm not a bit surprised at what is happening either, Doug. It's about what I would have expected. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Bobert Date: 10 Sep 10 - 05:26 PM GfinS, Both... Complainin' about the 12-13 year olds and braggin' how much better it was to be teaching GED in the Richmond jail... Did I meake any real money doin' either??? No, not back then... Took a paycut to work at the jail... But, hey, that was back in my save-the-world days... Took another paycut to take a similar job at Rubicon, Richmonds drug treatment half-way house... But, hey, I purdy much lived there so I didn't have to buy food... But the pay was right at subsistence level... Amos, Pual Krugman has hit the nail on the head... Boenher's formula for fixing the economy is about as realistic as using leeches to cure disease... It is very backward... The best part about it is that Obama can veto stupid stuff that the Repubs do to entertain their not-so-enlightened base... Dougie, You are right... It is going to be very interesting... But things in Germany in 1933 were, as well... It's always dengerous when super-patriotism takes over where common sense used to live... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: DougR Date: 10 Sep 10 - 05:00 PM Not really, Amos. I'm probably one of the few on this forum that is not surprised by what is happening. I think I even predicted it happening sometime last year (after the health care bill was rammed through the Congress). I realize most of my liberal friends are concerned and disappointed but I believe the Obama administration misread the political philosophy of the majority of American people. Obama ran for office as a uniter and proved to be a divider. He ran as a centrist and rules as a liberal. That simply won't fly in the U. S. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Little Hawk Date: 10 Sep 10 - 04:53 PM It's like watching a pendulum. ;-) The main reason being this: the key way to becoming extremely unpopular, even hated, is to get elected! By one or two years into your term of office the majority of the public will realize you ain't the blessed saviour they hope you were and they will probably hate your guts. That's why you have 2 parties in the USA...so the pendulum process can work itself out in the least compicated way possible. We have about 5 parties in Canada, so the hatred gets spread around and diffused a lot more here, and is therefore not so violent as in the USA. Nevertheless, I can tell you without a doubt that the party that's been in power for awhile in Canada is normally the most hated party in the country. The public instinctively resents those in power far more than they resent those out of power, because they know darned well that their government is robbing them. This is the case in pretty much every nation. ;-D |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Amos Date: 10 Sep 10 - 04:07 PM You drooling, amigo?? :D A |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: DougR Date: 10 Sep 10 - 03:53 PM It appears to me that interesting days lie ahead. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Amos Date: 10 Sep 10 - 10:07 AM "It's hard to overstate how destructive the economic ideas offered earlier this week by John Boehner, the House minority leader, would be if put into practice. Basically, he proposes two things: large tax cuts for the wealthy that would increase the budget deficit while doing little to support the economy, and sharp spending cuts that would depress the economy while doing little to improve budget prospects. Fewer jobs and bigger deficits — the perfect combination. More broadly, if Republicans regain power, they will surely do what they did during the Bush years: they won't seriously try to address the economy's troubles; they'll just use those troubles as an excuse to push the usual agenda, including Social Security privatization. They'll also surely try to repeal health reform, which would be another twofer, reducing economic security even as it increases long-term deficits. " Paul Krugman, NYT |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 10 Sep 10 - 12:54 AM Bobert: "The jail was more like hangin' out and gettin' paid to teach a little, too...)" Bobert: ".....These people is crazy, you know, the kids" and decided to take a job teaching GED in the Richmond City Jail.." So, besides underlining my point, are you bragging?..or complaining? It doesn't sound like efficiency, or a desire to teach kids was your top motivation....I mean from your post....I mean, as well, was it a living wage?..you know, for hanging out.........? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Bobert Date: 09 Sep 10 - 10:26 PM Somewhere in between GfinS and mouser is the answer... Ain't all about teacher's unions or funding for public education... Need to find some middle ground... More funding = better education... But... ...better teachers = better education, too... (I know... How'd the 'ol hillbilly squeeze in any knowledge ohn things like *edgee-cation*, ahhhhh, yeah... I confess to havin' taught 5th/6th combination for two years before thinkin' "These people is crazy, you know, the kids" and decided to take a job teaching GED in the Richmond City Jail... I mean, 5th/6th is tough... Way too many *horror*mones*... The jail was more like hangin' out and gettin' paid to teach a little, too...) But, yeah, everyone has to pull here 'cause we're lettin' our population turn into this massive blob of humanity that has been *epsilon'd*... That's about education... (But, Boberdz... Think about it this way... How many people do we really have to have that have any real concept of what "thinking" means???) Ahhhhhh, is this multiple choice??? See what I mean??? B~ BTW, when in doubt, pick "C"... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: mousethief Date: 09 Sep 10 - 09:24 PM And the way NCLB works is that, from underfunded schools that are struggling, they .... punish them by taking away funds! That makes sense! Because if we can't afford good education with X dollars, then maybe we can afford it for X-Y. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 09 Sep 10 - 09:07 PM Bobert: "Too bad that Bush refused to write the checks that the bill called for... Had he funded "No Child Left Behind" then it might have had better results..." Too bad that that particular bill wasn't coupled with teacher PERFORMANCE instead of certain 'less than stellar' teachers, getting by with just paying unions dues...insuring their job security, when some of them, frankly, suck square eggs. .Then, the funding could have not been so important, as EFFICIENCY!!!!! Oh! Perish the thought!...that would put a kink in what we have...a bloated inefficient bureaucracy..WASTING tax payers hard earned money, just to keep a bloated, crappy status quo! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Bobert Date: 09 Sep 10 - 08:37 PM Well, "No Child Left Behind" was okay... Not great but better than nuthin'... Too bad that Bush refused to write the checks that the bill called for... Had he funded "No Child Left Behind" then it might have had better results... Other than that, I can't think of anything to say positive about the legislation that the Bush administration pushed that was worth pushing, including the DHS, which of course, was a dem idea that Bush took up and pushed... As for what the Dems were able to get thru the Repub minefield on health care reform??? Yeah, it beats a blanka nd is at least a beginning to what can one day work to bring down our health care costs of the current 17% of GNP closer to the 8% of GNP of our industrialized nation competitors... And maybe even get US some better health in doing so??? But, yeah, it is a work in progress but... ...it's on the books and even if the Repubs take back control of Congress they won't have the kind of majority it would take to undo it... Of course they have their secret weapon: The Supremes who have been in the legislative mood of late... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Little Hawk Date: 09 Sep 10 - 07:14 PM You're quite right, Ebbie. It was Bearded Bruce's post I was referring to. I got so involved in typing my little essay, that I carelessly referred to it as having been GfS who said that, not BB. In any case, the point he was making remains identical. He was clearly referring to bills in general, not health care bills, when he referred to "Bush's efforts". |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Would a Repub Admin be Like? From: Ebbie Date: 09 Sep 10 - 06:04 PM You've got beardedbruce and GfS a bit conflated, Little Hawk. Of course, it does save time. |
