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Subject: beards and bards From: kendall Date: 23 Dec 99 - 01:54 PM I've noticed over the years that a large number of male folk singers have beards. Anyone care to comment on why? I shaved mine off, but, I'm thinking about growing it out again. |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Micca Date: 23 Dec 99 - 01:55 PM I noticed this and also folkies who just listen, a friend once told another person to look out for me in the Barn at Towersey festival with the description " you will have no problem as he is a short, fat person with glasses and a beard and a tankard in one hand" Unfortunatly the description matched more than half of the persons present(including Wimmen) and the searcher complained bitterly accordingly. When I did, finally, meet them they had been standing next to me for an hour during one of the sessions!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Peter T. Date: 23 Dec 99 - 02:15 PM It is a substitute for a security blanket. yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: kendall Date: 23 Dec 99 - 02:25 PM I know folkies are poor, but, we can surely afford a blanket?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Jon Freeman Date: 23 Dec 99 - 02:31 PM I just shaved my beard off as well. In my case the reason is simple. I am lazy and hate shaving. I am also no good at triming a beard so I tend to let it grow to a point where it starts to irritate me, shave it off and start again. Every time I shave it off, I go through a couple of days of shaving but then drift back again. Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Peter T. Date: 23 Dec 99 - 02:46 PM (1) Helps hide stitch marks from re-attached head; (2) Softens cold microphone during intimate breathy songs like "Je T'Aime, Je T'Aime"; (3) Can be used as feather duster while doing chinups, saving time in early mornings; (4) Longer beards excellent nesting places for falcons; (5) After multiple face lifts can be substitute for hairweave. yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Little Dorritt Date: 23 Dec 99 - 02:49 PM chill out lads! the beard and tankard thing are rather sexy. On the other hand wearing jesus sandals over a pair of marks and spencers socks isn't. More frightening still is when you get to warwick folk festival and say to someone meet me by my tent-its a little blue and pink two man dome thingy YOU CAN'T MISS IT- only to discover than the entire world supply of blue and pink two man dome thingies have been bought up and sold to anyone who has ever listened to a pentangle album |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: bseed(charleskratz) Date: 23 Dec 99 - 02:57 PM Little Dorrit, you probably would have been welcome in any of the tents, so what difference did it make? --seed(who has just regrown his beard) |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Big Mick Date: 23 Dec 99 - 03:10 PM Someone got problem with beards??? Maybe I do have to take a trip to Toronto............. BIG Mick |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Little Dorritt Date: 23 Dec 99 - 03:12 PM Yes BSeed - but where were you when my airbed need pumping up???. And another thing - have you noticed that festival folk will eat anything if its served to them by someone in a rainbow coloured jumper who hasn't washed for a week. hamburgers hotdogs -oh no I couldn't possiblyblah public healthblah salmonellablah after your normal saturday night out down the pub -hit a folk festival and its getanything down your neck it must be good for you she's wearing a save the whale teeshirt. Am I bitter- well actually yes - did I get food poisoning at cambridge some years ago well actually yes did i learn my lesson -nah- bring on the vegetarian wild rice stroganoff! Anyway off to Robin Hoods Bay for Chrimble so see ya soon |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Mbo Date: 23 Dec 99 - 03:30 PM I think my red mustache/goatee kinda give me the rugged Celtic warrior look, which is good when singing songs like "The Haughs O' Cromdale" and "Kelly, The Boy from Killane." I also dislike shaving (runing over pimples with an electric razor is NOT fun!) but 11 o' clock shadows are scratchy and really annoying, so you have to shave to stop the itch! --Mbo |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: kendall Date: 23 Dec 99 - 03:42 PM It's really interesting that some women prefer beards, others hate them. How about a survey of the women? tell us if you like/dislike beards, and why. |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: jaclad@canaan.co.il Date: 23 Dec 99 - 03:56 PM I know that it it the Samson Syndrome. The first time I shaved off my beard in 30 years was during the Gulf War(In Israel)- In order to put the gas mask on. Suddenly I couldn't sing! The eye glass things got all steamy and my voice became all muffled. Also there was all sorts of thunder and lightning going on . I could voices speaking in many tongues and all of them saying things like "He scud off his beard" "sa damm shame" etc . So I knew it was a punishment from God for daring to shave off my beard . I resolved never again to touch a hair on my face. Now whenever I hear a siren I just stick my finger in my ear and sing"The Holy Ground" |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: kendall Date: 23 Dec 99 - 04:31 PM I believe the Talmud says something about "not shaving the corners off the beard?" |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: bbelle Date: 23 Dec 99 - 04:33 PM I absolutely adore beards! Growing up my father always had a beard but was thinning on top. I just assumed that everyone's daddy was like that. Now he's a very young 75 and still has a full beard. Only difference is that the beard is snow white and there nothing on top ... moonchild |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Jon Freeman Date: 23 Dec 99 - 04:57 PM Now white beards, this leads me to a question: I haven't got a single grey hair on my head but my beard seems to have more grey hair than brown hair these days. I have noticed this with other people as well. Why should this be? Jon |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 23 Dec 99 - 05:09 PM My beard grew when I stopped shaving the bottom end of my face, many years ago, because I was always in a rush in the mornings and didn't fancy looking myself in the face at that time of the day.
Noone goes asking why someone is so eccentric as not to shave the top of their head. What's the difference?
A few years ago I got curious what I looked like under that, and shaved it off. My wife took one look and said "grow it again immediately."
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Little Neophyte Date: 23 Dec 99 - 05:40 PM Kendall, My dad never had a beard. And I have never dated a man with one. If I fell in love with someone who did have one, I believe I would love his beard too. My brother is a very religious (Hassidic) Jew and you should see his beard. He believes you are not supposed to cut any part of the beard. His has become long & sacred. BB |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Mbo Date: 23 Dec 99 - 05:44 PM Wow, Bonnie, that's really neat! --Mbo |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: catspaw49 Date: 23 Dec 99 - 06:25 PM Meebo, its her BROTHER for cryin' out loud!!! Hassidic? Of course he does, why is that so neat? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 23 Dec 99 - 06:30 PM First, let me remind everyone that Joe Offer does not, I repeat, does not, have a beard. That is if he hasn't grown one since retirement. Growing a beard and wearing one's hair long is a traditional form of male protest. And weren't some of us drawn to those protest singers. It also means, usually, "I don't work for a big corporation" (unless it is on the assembly line. Joe used to work for the big government see. So the beard is a signal. I began growing mine a week before discharge from the U.S. Army. It was definitely a protest and it was a way I could tell people that I was a little left of center (this was 1971). In 1972, I worked for the Farboil Paint Company. I was a promising young chemist in their quality control division. One day the V.P. for the laboratory took me aside and said, "The big guy thinks you have a bright future with the company. He would like to send you out to our customers to assist them with any problems they have with our product. But some of them are rather conservative and the big guy thinks you should shave your beard before we do that." Well, the message was clear. I thought about it for one long night. It was a crisis point for me. Would it be values or money? Well, I chose values (I think). I told the V.P. I didn't plan on shaving anytime soon and I began looking for another job. Now I work in the addictions field. I think all white guys are required to have beards (or so it seems) if they started out in drug abuse treatment. The field is ripe with old hippies and freaks. If they started out in alcoholism treatment, they are most likely clean-shaven. Well, I do ramble on don't I? I should also mention that without a beard I have a decidedly moon-shaped face. I talked with Marge about cutting my beard (just to see if it feels different after 30 odd years). She said, "Don't you dare!" 'Nuff said! Roger in Baltimore |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Llanfair Date: 23 Dec 99 - 06:36 PM My husband, Jim, has a beard because, when he shaves it off, he looks his age, which is a very lot younger than me. He uses a beard trimmer, which gives him that "just started growing a beard" look. Hwyl, Bron. |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Llanfair Date: 23 Dec 99 - 06:38 PM Oh, and he's not a folkie, he's a bass player who likes folk-rock. Bron. |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Mbo Date: 23 Dec 99 - 06:44 PM Well, 'SPAW, I just think that the Hassidic Jews, with their amazing devotion and the sacredness (is that a word?) of certain aspects of personal appearance is something really to be admired. I like to learn about interesting things like that! THATS why it's neat. --Mbo |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Jim Date: 23 Dec 99 - 06:57 PM Having a beard is a little like wearing a mask, and performing bearded is maybe a little like mask in theatre. Like comedia del arte. It gives you more freedom |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: catspaw49 Date: 23 Dec 99 - 06:59 PM LMAOWROTF........Geeziz, I love ya' Meeb! You crack me up. Big RiB.....Great post! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: bseed(charleskratz) Date: 23 Dec 99 - 07:30 PM Roger, I think the word you were thinking of is "rife," not "ripe," but considering that they are old hippies and freaks, they're probably a bit ripe, as well. --seed(a little of each [hippie, freak, and ripe]) |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Joe Offer Date: 23 Dec 99 - 07:36 PM Sorry to make a liar out of my friend Big RiB, but click here -Joe Offer, blissfully retired- |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Dave Swan Date: 23 Dec 99 - 07:37 PM I've just had three weeks off duty and done a gray check in the beard. My chin has gone bright white while the rest has remained dark. I look like I'm trying to swallow a skunk head first. About fifteen years ago, when my beard covered the third button of my shirt, I ran into a friend I hadn't seen in quite a few years. Ramona is a memeber of the local German Baptist congregation, whose men grow quite long and prosperous beards. After a big hug on greeting, Ramona grabbed my whiskers and asked "What's this?" I said "Mona, this is a beard, you ought to know what this is." She gave me a big smooch on the cheek and delivered one of my favorite lines about facial hair. "Honey, kissing a man without a beard is like eating a taco without hot sauce." |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: MK Date: 23 Dec 99 - 08:09 PM I wear a beard for the same reason that dogs and cats licks their.....privates. .....because I (they) can! 8^) |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: alison Date: 23 Dec 99 - 08:32 PM Somewhere in hhere someone asked for a woman's preference for beards... and only Moonchild responded.... so here's my 2c.... Beards are horrible when they are just starting... that "rasp the face off you first week"... why some people think that they should keep them trimmed to that length is beyond me unless they have a masochistic partner..... it is no fun to snuggle up against. Likewise the Bog Geldof just grow a few lines here and there.. looks silly, and probably hard to maintain..... then there is that lovely soft phase....... neat ... and fun to snuggle up to..... then there is the ZZ Top half way down your chest beard.... looks OK if you have nice facial hair... more often looks like wrongly located pubes.... hahahaha... from reading this... you should see that I prefer the neat, and short but soft version....... slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Roger in Baltimore Date: 23 Dec 99 - 08:42 PM Joe, You'll notice that I anticipated the possibility of a post-retirement beard. You may want to change the reason for it given Michael K.'s post above. I don't think it convey's your meaning well. Big RiB |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 23 Dec 99 - 08:48 PM Why do people keep talking about growing a beard as if that was an action you did? It isn't, except in the sense that breathing is an action. If you are male, a beard is what happens once you are grown, unless you go through some regular shaving ritual.
Some people stick safety pins through their cheeks, some people have studs in their belly buttons, some people shave their chins every day. If it turns them on, fine. I'd just prefer to go through life without cutting bits off my body when I can avoid it.
Here's a song I wrote when someone working in a supermarket was getting hassled for having a beard.
While shopping at the Superstore
(ch)They don't like beards on the men,
It may sound crazy, but it's actual,
(ch)They don't like beards on the men,
I had a dream I half remember
(ch)And there were beards on the men,
Well if you find that you agree
(ch)Like growing beards on the men,
Or maybe beads on the men, Tune - more like "Keep your feet still Geordie Hinny" than anything. Or "Plastic Jesus". "Small bananas" - these of course are the sort that come from peasant famers in the Windward Isles in the Caribbean, which the big American run banana companies like Chiquita are trying to drive out of business, with the help of American government trade sanctions and the good old World Trading Organisation, using trade sanctions to force countries in Europe into line.
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: bbelle Date: 23 Dec 99 - 09:08 PM Alison ... wonderful analogy to the "wrongly located." I would have to agree ... moonchild |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: catspaw49 Date: 23 Dec 99 - 09:28 PM I gotta tell ya, I got the world's crappiest looking beard. Additionally, the two times I have gone 6 months or so, I look like a cross between Joe Palooka and the wandering Jew. And then there's the shaving thing....I know this is sacrilege or something, but I honestly like to shave. It has always given me a clean feeling that improves my spirits right away. I dunno why...just a simpleton I guess. Takes so little to make me happy. (Yeah, I know..."And that's what she said to you last night, ain't it Spaw?") Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: kendall Date: 23 Dec 99 - 09:34 PM Actually, I'd like to hear more from the women on this..ok guys? |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: John in Brisbane Date: 23 Dec 99 - 09:45 PM My father died when I was nine, but I vividly remember him shaving before Mass on Sunday mornings, and occasionally cutting himself and getting a freshly ironed white shirt slightly bloodied. The resultant panic caused me to vow never to shave. I was told later at school that when some Asian men start to grow facial hair they pluck each strand out by the roots so that it never grows again. This seemed a wee bit drastic, so I opted for the beard growing option as soon as I left school. I've had a beard permanently since 1972 and most of my friends have never seen me without it. During a recent crisis of self esteem I asked my wife for her views about shaving it off. Being the saint that she is she politely offered "No, you'll just look old and wrinkled if people can actually see your face!"
Best wishes, John |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: kendall Date: 23 Dec 99 - 09:51 PM My friends tell me I look 20 years younger without it |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: catspaw49 Date: 23 Dec 99 - 09:56 PM So now you only look 94 huh Kendall? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: kendall Date: 23 Dec 99 - 10:03 PM boy, I laid myself open that time |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: catspaw49 Date: 23 Dec 99 - 10:18 PM Sorry Kendall...Ya know I love ya!!!LMAO....And BTW, "Phoebe Snow" came through just great on Mudcat Radio last nite....great piece,great job!!! I replayed it a couple times today and sang some real bad harmony with you.......sorry! Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Mary G Date: 23 Dec 99 - 10:25 PM I generally like beards ...not too long or bushy..not like Dr. Wiel's...you didnt' ask about long hair..but if you did I would say I don't like it on men..especially ponytails..but I am hair impaired myself...frizzy and untamable.. mg |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: jeffp Date: 23 Dec 99 - 10:46 PM I started my beard back in high school--70-71. I've shaved it off a couple of times since then, the last time in 1984. My wife won't let me shave mine off either. She loves it, sections of gray and all. I'm simultaneously curious and afraid to see my chin after all these years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: TheMuse Date: 24 Dec 99 - 12:06 AM And here is my two cents . . . . I love beards. . .er, beard. The one on the face of my Sweetie is the only one that counts, of course. What woman in their right mind would want to subject themselves to "whisker burn" when there can be a soft, soft beard to nuzzle? And it's a handy to thing to grab when caressing your man's cheek to make sure he's paying attention! TheMuse |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Liz the Squeak Date: 24 Dec 99 - 02:10 AM Well here's a thread that has got to me. How can anyone not love beards.....? There are some exceptions of course, I do tend to avoid those men who use their beards as a food store, much like a hamster uses its cheeks, and I don't particularly like those bumfluff efforts, but since seeing Sean Connery at the age of 11 and falling hopelessly in love with him, I've always gone for hairy blokes, and that usually means bearded. When I saw Sean with the beard in 'Highlander', my life was complete..... Out of the 25+ blokes I've ever been out with, only 5 didn't have facial hair, and that only because 4 or them weren't old enough......! LTS |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: bbelle Date: 24 Dec 99 - 07:50 AM I like them full and bushy ... but nicely trimmed. Never had a hankering to date a Hassid because their beards tend to be too long and straggly. Goatees are too artsy-fartsy. I also like long hair and ponytails, as long as it's clean and well-kempt. Greasy, dirty anything is not appealing. And, yes, kendall, beards do age most men, but who cares, if you love beards! moonchild |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: kendall Date: 24 Dec 99 - 08:10 AM Liz, I also love Sean Connery, but, for a different reason I want you to know. Never cared much for his James Bond stuff, but, Robin & Marion is one of my favorite movies. by the way, what is the meaning of bumfluff? |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: longhair Date: 24 Dec 99 - 10:19 AM I've had my beard for as along as I've been able to grow one. After the first 10 years I shaved it off and like to have fell over! I didn't know anyone could get that ugly in 10 years! I had to grow it back. Besides I never liked shaving.. too much trouble. Mary G., what can I say? My grandmother doesn't like my hair, ponytail, beard, or earring(hey, what can I say? Used to be scooter trash :-) ). Oh well, I have enjoyed the thread. Thought I'd put my 2 cents worth in... Happy Holidays all!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: gillymor Date: 24 Dec 99 - 10:25 AM "...I would kiss as many of you as had beards that pleased me," (As You Like it,Epilogue)I guess that's why we do it. When I was growing my current Goatee my dear one threatened to have "Property of Satan's Slaves" tatooed her on backside if I didn't shave it. Now she promises to quit me if I do. Frankie |
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Subject: RE: BS: beards and bards From: Big Mick Date: 24 Dec 99 - 11:25 AM I should like to point out to THE FAIR ONE that I have a beard of the perfect length, as described by her wonderful self................EEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS. I grew my beard in 1970, and it has pretty well been with me ever since. I remember cutting it off once when my two oldest girls (who are now 21 and 23) were 2 and 4. They sat there on the floor watching their Da, with great interest. When I was done the 4 year old popped up and said, "Da, you got cheeks". When I cut it off, I look much younger, so I imagine that I will cut it off one of these days. Big Mick |