BS: What You Believe to be a Republican

Subject: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 08:57 PM

Things you have to believe to be a Republican today:

1. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a
conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers
for your recovery.

2. The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our
highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.

3. Government should relax regulation of Big Business and Big Money
but crack down on individuals who use marijuana to relieve the pain of
illness.

4. "Standing Tall for America" means firing your workers and moving
their jobs to India.

5. A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind
without regulation.

6. Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary
Clinton.

7. The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in
speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.

8. Group sex and drug use are degenerate sins unless you someday run
for governor of California as a Republican.

9. If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.

10. A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies,
then demand their cooperation and money.

11. HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests of the public
at heart.

12. Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing
health care to all Americans is socialism.

13. Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but
creationism should be taught in schools.

14. Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him,
a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy
when Cheney did business with him and a bad guy when Bush
needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.

15. A president lying about an extramarital affair is a impeachable
offense. A president lying to enlist support for a war in which
thousands die is solid defense policy.

16. Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution,
which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.

17. The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades,
but George Bush's driving record is none of our business.
Nor is his indulgence in insider trading.

18. You support states' rights, which means Attorney General John
Ashcroft can tell states what local voter initiatives they have the
right to adopt.

19. What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest,
but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.

20. Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but
trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international
harmony.

21. When the vice president tells a Senator to go f--- himself on the
very floor of the Senate, it's simply good old-fashioned assertiveness.
But when Hollywood celebs make off-color jabs at Bush during a
Radio City Kerry fundraiser, it's an offense that requires a
review of the videotapes and a full-scale investigation.

22. Names of the energy moguls who met with Cheney to carve up the
industry and fix prices are none of our business, but Kerry has to
release the names of foreign leaders he says support his candidacy
instead of Bush.

If you don't send this to at least 10 people, we're likely to be stuck
with Bush for four more years. Friends don't let friends vote Republican.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Big Mick
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 09:04 PM

Well done, Dave. I stand humbly before the Master.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Aug 04 - 09:06 PM

I beg to differ there, Uncle Dave... These are all qualities of a Bush Republican.

There really aren't too many good ol' fashioned Republicans left.

But when it comes down to being a Bush Republican you have complicated the issue with to much information when really most of those who will vote for him fall into one of two categories: rich or grossly uninformed...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: DougR
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 01:24 AM

Wow, Uncle Dave O, you've got your admirer, Big Mick, singing your praises, but I'm sure it will not surprise you that I do not join the chorus.

Bunch of crap I say. And I'm damn well sick of reading it.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Peace
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 01:52 AM

Uncle Dave O: Thank you.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: michaelr
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 02:29 AM

Doug, once again you have nothing of substance to offer. If you could refute DaveO, wouldn't you do so? Well, wouldn't you.

Thought so. I do believe you really wish you could.




But you can't, can you?





Thought so.






Thank you, Uncle.

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 07:27 AM

Excellent, excellent compilation DaveO. May I add number 23?

23. Beating, stripping and sodomizing prisoners is no worse than a fraternity prank.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 10:02 AM

Wouldn't it be good to also include WHO you believe to be a Republican?

I'd put Bill Clinton, Tom Daschle, and John Kerry on the list, for starters.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 10:15 AM

Those are some of the current manifestations of Republicanism, but they fail to capture the underlying philosophy. Some of those "beliefs" are merely expedient excuses meant to help Bush get reelected. They fail to reveal why conservatives want Bush reelected. To understand that, you've got to understand conservative ideology, which will still be here long after everyone has forgotten about George Bush:

Rich people do wise things with their money that benefit the economy. Poor people do stupid things with their money that don't benefit anybody, even themselves. Therefore rich people deserve to have even more money so they can do even more beneficial things. (This might seem to imply that poor people will have less money, but that's wrong, because "a rising tide lifts all boats.")

Poor people need to be kept alive so they can continue working for rich people and paying taxes—but just barely.

Poor people need to have the example of rich people before them to give them an incentive to work; otherwise, they'd just be lazy. Also, poor people need to be told that anyone can become rich just by working hard and spending their money wisely. In other words, rich people are just people like themselves who have worked harder and made better decisions. Anyone who tells you differently is just promoting envy and class warfare.

True, some rich people have inherited their wealth, but you can't eliminate the ability of people to pass on their wealth to their children, because that would reduce the incentive to become wealthy in the first place (and that would be wrong).

Anyway, rich people pass on their virtues to their children, so you needn't worry that anyone will get rich who doesn't deserve it.

And regardless of how rich people became rich, they continue to invest their money and employ poor people. That's called "creating jobs," and that's good.

We mainly need George Bush because he will continue to uphold the above principles, and therefore any propaganda that helps him get reelected is justified.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Big Mick
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 10:32 AM

Doug, it might help if you share with us, point by point, what your objections are.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 10:51 AM

It isn't UncleDaveO's list, it is a cut and paste, available all over the internet.

The list looks like Anybody But Bush urban legends to me.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: M.Ted
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 11:23 AM

I agree with DougR--it is a bunch of crap, and I am damn sick and tired of reading about it----that's why I'm voting for Kerry--

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Little Hawk
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 11:29 AM

A Republican? Oh, that's just someone who is a member...or a customary supporter...of the Republican Party, a huge corrupt organization that acts as a front for big business and competes for power with another huge and corrupt organization, the Democratic Party, which does exactly the same thing while pretending to be substantially different.

And they are a bit different, in style. They may even be a bit different in social policy. This, however, is not of much comfort to the foreign peoples who frequently find themselves at the wrong end of an American bombsight.

There has recently been fairly compelling evidence to suggest that the Republican Party is crazier (though not more corrupt than) the Democratic Party. Maybe. I'd give 2 to 1 odds on it.

Anyway, a Republican is usually (but not always) someone who grew up in a family that was Republican. He is usually someone who doesn't like what he calls "socialism" (although he doesn't really know what the word means). He is usually unaware that a modern society cannot and absolutely does not function without a great deal of socialism already installed.

He may be religious. He may not be. He may be rich or he may be poor. He may be smart or he may not be too smart. He is not very often black, but there are a few black Republicans (amazingly enough). Two of them are high up in the current Bush administration! Isn't that nice? It gives me a warm glow inside. :-)

He is someone who believes in the political tooth fairy and probably in Santa Claus too...and he votes for them every 2-4 years, just like his erstwhile Democratic opponents across the street do. He is still waiting for the big payoff, the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow which HIS glorious party will deliver, but it will never come. He lives in a dream world that ceases to exist beyond the borders of the USA.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Nerd
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 02:26 PM

We can add "Urban Legends" to the heap of things that GUEST doesn't know anything about. This list is not a legend, nor are the individual items on it, by almost any definition.

Also, I notice that GUEST doesn't actually refute any of the items on the list. Too busy Hawk--Hawk--Hawking up phlegm in every thread.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 02:38 PM

Personally, I would really like to know the names of the foreign leaders whom Kerry says support his candidacy. I also would like to know the names of the energy moguls who met with Cheny to carve up the energy industry and fix prices.

I really don't understand any rationale that would attempt to justify Kerry not revealing his names just because Cheney won't reveal his. Just makes me tend to mistrust both of them equally.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 04:39 PM

CarolC: Did I miss something? When did Kerry say he had a list of foreign leaders that support his candidacy? It sounds like a strange thing to say, and a dangerous thing to say, since it would make him vulnerable to charges that he had sold out to foreign interests--something that Americans would get very nervous and/or outraged about.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 04:45 PM

I don't know. There is a reference to it in the opening post to this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Amos
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 05:13 PM

He made a perfectly innocuous remark, IIRC, about eight months ago that he had talked to foreign leaders who agreed with his candidacy or something like that. When challenged by the Bushites to provide particulars, he declined, which may well have been the dip[lomatic thing to do.

A

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 05:15 PM

What does IIRC stand for?

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 05:29 PM

If I Recall Correctly

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: GUEST,Different Guest
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 06:03 PM

Here is one of the many articles available that references Kerry's claim that foreign leaders wanted him, rather than Bush, as the next president:

Kerry on defensive on 'foreign leaders' claim

Just google it, and you'll find plenty of articles about it.

It was quite an extraordinary claim for a presidential candidate of either party to make, just like his "secret plan" claim last Sunday on the talk shows, for ending the Iraq war, was extraordinary.

He clearly stepped in some shit with those statements, as his subsequent backpeddling, "clarifications", etc demonstrates.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 06:35 PM

He shouldn't have said it, even if it's true. Especially if it's true. There's no way a statement like that can help him. Naming the leaders would only create worse problems.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 07:36 PM

The party of Abraham Lincoln....terribly sad that people feel that way about it.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 10:44 PM

The party of Lincoln is dead. I'd support the party of Lincoln wholeheartedly. This is the party of Bush, Ashcroft, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Delay, Wolfowitz, Pearle, Rice, Harris, Gingrich, Limbaugh, Hannity, Scarborough, Savage, Coulter, Murdoch, Moon, Hume, Conway (Kelly Anne that is), O'Reilly, Falwell, Robertson, Reed (Ralph - his name, not my commentary), Safire, Krauthammer.....

If Lincoln had not already been shot, I promise he would shoot himself today (especially over Delay fer Crissakes).

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: CarolC
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 10:52 PM

Jim Dixon, if Bush had made the same kinds of comments, would you want to know which countries he was talking about?

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Peace
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 11:09 PM

Kerry opened his mouth and said something he shouldn't have. It was a foolish thing for him to do, no question. I don't doubt that many countries would like to see Bush defeated in November. Four years of this nightmare is enough. However, some of those countries might want to keep existing after the election, and if they have indicated that they don't like Bush, well, the noose could get a little tight.

In this regard, Kerry can't say more. It would only compound a very difficult problem, and it wouldn't solve anyone's problems, even his own.

The bush gang will jumpo on it because they seem not to have a whole lot to show for their years in office--at least not much to be proud of. So, they will keep after Kerry, and if that's the limit of what they can draw public interest to, they are in deep dung come November. IMHO.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Cruiser
Date: 04 Aug 04 - 11:20 PM

Hey Uncle, I am a card carrying Republican and I agree with some of your 22 criticisms. One of these days I will be able to vote for a Republican president again, just you wait and see!

I could have never imagined a scenario involving a cast of the current characters ruining my party; not even in terrible B-horror movie.

This all seems like a very bad nightmare. Voting for Kerry will still be a bad dream, but something I can at least wake up from, albeit somewhat blurry-eyed.

Is something awfully wrong with all of us, ideologically speaking? I have never seen such a division in our political views. Surely, it can't get any worse...

Cruiser

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Amos
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 12:00 AM

Look a little deeper and it turns out he didn't say what he was reported to have said. I had a link to the correction and thought I had posted it, but ti didn't go through, sorry.

If I have time I'll try to find it later.

A

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 12:02 AM

of course it could get worse,cruiser.
Kerry could win.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: DougR
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 01:20 PM

Mick: I just read your message to me. I don't have time at the moment to reply to the poster who began this thread, but because of my respect for you, I will do so as soon as time allows. I do this with the realization that whatever I say, of course, will not change "already made up" minds.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 02:26 PM

Nerd, I am not Guest, I am Little Hawk. Were you under the impression that I was "Guest"? I'm Canadian. I would gather from Guest's comments that he/she is American. I never post as just plain "Guest" on this forum, though I have posted now and then as Guests with various odd names for humorous purposes. Be that as it may, I am none of the Guests on this particular thread.

My jaundiced view of both the Democrats and Republicans is extremely common outside the borders of the USA. When one is standing well outside the parameters of a game, it's easy to spot the fact that it is just a game. When one is inside the game, one tends to take it more seriously.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 02:45 PM

Amos, you posted it on the "Kerry secret war plan" thread. I responded to your post there.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 02:55 PM

Re: European leaders who support Kerry.

I can guess who they are: all of them. Isn't Bush the most conservative leader in NATO? Wouldn't all the others be more closely aligned with Kerry? Of course, I'm talking about the ones who are in power now, not the leaders of minority parties. I suspect even Tony Blair would like to have Kerry win, though he wouldn't say so publicly. All of them need to hedge their bets in case Bush wins.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of them told Kerry confidentially that they hope he wins, but they probably would be outraged if their names were made public, and would deny saying any such thing.

Remember the furor that Charles de Gaulle caused when he said, "Vive le Quebec libre"? Boy, that was a long time ago, but honestly, I can't remember another time when a European leader openly expressed an opinion about something that would be considered an internal matter in North America. Sure, Margaret Thatcher made no secret of how she idolized Ronald Reagan, but, as far as I can remember, she stopped short of saying he should be reelected.

That could be because the American media didn't report it, if it happened. Americans generally consider the opinions of foreigners to be irrelevant, unless it feels too much like they're interfering, and then they get mad. Hence the secrecy.

It's illegal for an American political candidate to accept money from a foreign source. Acknowledging even symbolic gestures of support would be hardly more respectable. Hence an attempt by the Bush people to embarrass Kerry by questioning him about it.

Nobody really wants to know what European leaders support Kerry.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 03:12 PM

I'd be interested to know about leaders of other countries besides European ones. In particular, I'd be interested to know about countries like Australia, China, Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, Indonesia, and all of the Middle Eastern countries. And among the European countries, I think it would be interesting to know about Russia, Eastern Europe, and the Balkan states. I don't expect I will ever have access to that information, but I think it would be interesting to know.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: NH Dave
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 03:22 PM

Dave and Jim, you have it nailed.

Dave

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 06:44 PM

For what it's worth, I was a Republican for 36 years, from 1960 to 1996, but beginning with Gingrich, et al. and their highhanded tactics I took another look, and I've gone back to the party of my youth, as must be obbvious by the first post in this thread.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 08:11 PM

Well, I have never belonged to any political party, and I view them all with considerable suspicion. When it comes to voting, though, I choose as best I can among them. There are several mainstream parties in Canada.

I am in favour of abolishing all political parties, and voting for individuals instead, on the basis of their ideas, their past record, their reputation, and their general character.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Nerd
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 09:17 PM

Little Hawk,

I was referring to GUEST's post of 04 Aug 04 - 10:51 AM, where s/he referred to this list as "urban legends."

the Hawk, Hawk thing was not a reference to your name, but to another thread which GUEST, I believe the same one, entitled:

ALL UNITY! NO DISSENT! HAWK! HAWK!

presumably referring to Kerry being a "hawk" or pro-war, but sounding like s/he was coughing up a lugie.

I didn't even notice the resemblance to your name, and my post was in no way directed at you!

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Aug 04 - 09:23 PM

Okay... (grin)

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: DougR
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 01:57 AM

Well, Uncle Dave O., good for you! You were a Republican until 1996. That will give you multiple brownie points with most of the members of the Mudcat particularly when you proclaim yourself to be a ...oops, sorry, I don't believe you now profess to be anything other than a 'aginner now. What is the party of your youth? Green? Naw, probably not. Commie, ...well, probably not: Independent...I doubt it since you fit so well with the majority here on the Mudcat...oh, let me guess ...DEMOCRAT! Yeah! Okie dokie. If that makes you comfortable, right on I say.

If you are comfortable having a president who is anti-war in an environment that is warlike (not of our own choosing) so be it.

I say, though, if Kerry is elected, God help us all.

DougR

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Peace
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 02:07 AM

Bush is President, and we need God's help to protect us--from Bush.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: GUEST,Clint Keller
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 02:29 AM

I see no indication that the war with Iraq was not of Mr. Bush's choosing.

We have more justification now to attack North Korea and Iran than we had to attck Iraq, but Mr. Bush does not choose to do this.

And a pro-war president will not change a warlike environment -- why would he?

"Anti-war" is not the same as "pacifist."

And "blindly loyal" sure doesn't mean "reasonable."

clint

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: GUEST,Mighty Caesar
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 01:24 PM

Doug, your loyalty has been noted and will not go unrewarded. You are a true Roman patriot, and a credit to the Empire. Remember, "Extremism in the cause of Liberty is no vice!" (and extremism in the cause of larger corporate profits is even better).

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Peace
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 01:36 PM

LMAOROTF

We who are about to die salute you. Hail, Caesar.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 10:15 PM

To be a Republican you believe that poor people are getting what they deserve for having the stupidity to be born into poverty.

To be a Republican you believe that everyone in the Country should be held accountable. Except the White House.

To be Republican you believe that it's OK for people to die because they lack the money for proper nutrition and health, and it's their own fault for not having the money to buy health insurance.

To be a Republican you believe that profits are more important than the lives of your soldiers, and that your acquisition of wealth by any means is just.

To be a Republican you believe that God speaks directly to your leader. And you believe that your leader is speaking English when he's not talking in tongues.

To be a Republican you believe that the difference between a lie and the truth is decided by expedience and whether or not you will be caught.

To be a Republican you believe that the Constitution is a hindrance to your exercise of power.

To be a Republican you believe that voting for the Republican Party's candidates will help you get richer, even if your fellow Americans are getting poorer.

To be a Republican you think it is poor form to show compassion for those less fortunate, and you are proud of this aspect of your character because might is right, and always will be.

To be a Republican . . . .

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Aug 04 - 10:53 PM

SORCHA...WYSWIG....and KATLaughing

I believe are Republicans.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 07 Aug 04 - 11:50 AM

Here's a remark made by President Bush
at the signing on Thursday morning of the Defense Appropriations
Act for Fiscal Year 2005, as reported on the official White House
Web site:

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." Not even C J Cregg could put a positive spin on that.

The truth will out.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: Peace
Date: 09 Aug 04 - 04:41 PM

Has anyone ever seen Alfred E Newman and George W Bush in a room together at the same time?

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: CarolC
Date: 09 Aug 04 - 04:45 PM

George and Alfred?

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 10 Aug 04 - 04:38 PM

Here is the flipside.   What you believe if you are a democrat

1.   You support every drug dealer and user unless they are a conservative talk show host.   Then it is ok to illegally search his records and vilotate his privacy.
2.   The USA should give it sovernty to the United Nations and not have the right to defend itself
3.   Big business is greedy and corupt and has no right to exist.   Everyone should work for the government and be supported by the government.   In return they must promise to vote democratic. (not much different than what is happening already)
4.   Standing tall for america means criticizing america and giving comfort to our enemies.   All income must be redistributed.
5.   Partial birth abortions must be legalized and parential notification must be outlawed.
6.   Religion is anti american and must be removed from our lives.   Anyone practicing religion must be sued.   Muslim and Jewish symbols are OK but all nativity scenes and any mention of Christmas must be outlawed.
7.   The best way to improove morale of the troops is to vote down spending bills and than tell the trooops that you support them, even if the war they are fighting in is illegal and immoral.
8. Group sex and drugs raise your poll numbers so they are highly incouraged if you plan to run for office as a democrat- see Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Toricelli, Packwood etc
9.   Classrooms are great places for sex.   Ready for a pop quiz?
10. The best way to encourage allies is to claim they don't exist and that we went unilaterrally into Iraq.   That really shows support for allies such as Britian, Italy, Austrailia, and Poland.   Their soldiers didn't really die, because it was a unilateral action
11. Free Health care is an entitlement and won't cost any money because no one will get sick
12. Health care is only available to the rich. If a poor person goes to a hospital they are turned away if they don't have money.
13. The 80's never happend and Reagan had noting to do with the fall of communism are facts.   The Clinton scandals were a right wing conspiracy and made up
14.   Sadaam was not a nice guy but posed no threat to anybody because he was contained and would never think of developing WMD's
15.   Republicans lie.   Democrats tell the truth when they call for family values, lower taxes, and a stronger military.   It's just depends on what the meaning of is is.
16. Judges and politicains inSan Francisco and Massachusits have the right to disobey the law and pass whatever laws they want to because it is the right thing to do regardless of that silly contitution.
17. The public has the right to know about Rush's medical records, but no right to know about Kerry's divorce settlement, Theresa tax returns, or any claims made by the Swift boat soldiers.
18. Even though the Patriot Act has not resulted in a single claim of abuse in 2 years, it is bad for the contry. It is far better to have another attack and kill millions of americans that take away our liberties with the patriot act.
19. What kerry did in 4 months in Viet nam is relavant.   What he did in 20 years in the Senate is irrelavant and mean spirited and dirty politics to look up his record.
20. Giving information to Isreal is wrong.   Giving nuclear secrets to the Chinese in exhange for contributions is capitalism and the American way
21. John F...ing Kerry has every right to use the word because the republicans deserve it.   Move on has every right to show Bush as a nazi because he really is one.    I don't see anything wrong with that.    Only republicans use dirty tricks.    It is justified when a democrat does it.
22. Kerry announced that two senators had reached a deal today with France and Germany to send troops to Iraq after the election.   It would be morally wrong to send them now and save american lives because Kerry made the deal and not bush.
23.   If you are a demoncrat you believe that republicans never win an election. They are only stolen from you.    You count on the American public being too stupid to learn the truth.   You count on the media being useful idiots.   You count on blind loyalty from African Americans though you do nothing to improve their lives.   And finally....you count the 87 days until Bush is reelected.

It is so condescending to read the subject and so easy to post the opposite viewpoint.   It does not warrant serious discussion or any exchange of ideas.   That is why democrats will continue to lose elections.   Partisan rhetoric goes both ways and just indicates the closed minds of the people reciting it.

Subject: RE: BS: What You Believe to be a Republican
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 11 Aug 04 - 11:31 AM

*LOVE* George & Alfred, although they'll have a LOT of work to try to keep up with GW & his bon mots! Here's one of my faves, in which he appears to promise a compassionate American in every pot:

"The goals for this country are peace in the world. And the goals for this country are a compassionate American for every single citizen. That compassion is found in the hearts and souls of American citizens."
~Washington, D.C.; December 19, 2002

And this illuminates a possible reason Laura's so keen on promoting literacy:

"One of the great things about books is sometimes there are some fantastic pictures."
~U.S. News & World Report; January 2, 2000


And now for a sneak peek at the upcoming RNC:

REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE CONVENTION SCHEDULE New York, NY

6:00PM Opening Prayer led by the Reverend Jerry Fallwell
6:30 PM Pledge of Allegiance
6:35 PM Burning of Bill of Rights (excluding 2nd amendment)
6:45 PM Salute to the Coalition of the Willing
6:46 PM Seminar #1 Getting your kid a military deferment
7:30 PM First Presidential Beer Bong
7:35 PM Serve Freedom Fries
7:40 PM EPA Address #1: Mercury, it's what's for dinner.
8:00 PM Vote on which country to invade next
8:10 PM Call EMTs to revive Rush Limbaugh
8:15 PM John Ashcroft Lecture: The Homos are after your children
8:30 PM Round table discussion on reproductive rights (MEN only)
8:50 PM Seminar #2 Corporations: The government of the future
9:00 PM Condi Rice sings "Can't Help Lovin'Dat Man"
9:05 PM Second Presidential Beer Bong
9:10 PM EPA Address #2 Trees: The real cause of forest fires
9:30 PM Break for secret meetings
10:00 PM Second prayer led by Cal Thomas
10:15 PM Lecture by Carl Rove: Doublespeak made easy
10:30 PM Rumsfeld demonstration of how to squint and talk macho
10:35 PM Bush demonstration of trademark "deer in headlights" stare.
10:40 PM John Ashcroft demonstrates new mandatory kevlar chastity belt
10:45 PM Clarence Thomas reads list of black republicans
10:46 PM Third Presidential Beer Bong
10:50 PM Seminar #3 Education: a drain on our nation's economy.
11:10 PM Hillary Clinton Pinata
11:20 PM Second Lecture by John Ashcroft: Evolutionists: The dangerous new
cult
11:30 PM Call EMTs to revive Rush Limbaugh again.
11:35 PM Blame Clinton
11:40 PM Laura serves milk and cookies
11:50 PM Closing Prayer led by Jesus Himself
12: 00PM Nomination of George W. Bush as Holy Supreme Planetary Overlord