BS: Wearing the kilt!!!

Subject: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Juan P-B
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 06:29 PM

About three weeks ago I achieved a lifelong ambition and bought a kilt - Just the kilt! Not the full regalia.

Most people seemed nonplussed and amused at a bloke with an obviously sassenach accent wearing the plaid.

One bloke in a pub had the decency to ask (on behalf of his mates) "Why the kilt?" - He (and his pals) were happy with "Because it's comfortable"

I wore it at a car-boot sale this morning and most people who said anything at all were impressed that I wasn't freezing to death - I suppose because it's wool! They were desperately cold in their denims

I wore it to a gig this afternoon in Oxfordshire and got a fairly positive response from a bunch of pub regulars.

The only negativity was at a 'choke 'n' puke' (McDonald's) near Didcot when a neanderthal in a car yelled across the car park "Hey mate! (I wasn't his mate) Why you wearing a skirt"

I yelled back that I couldn't hear what he was saying with his engine running so he actually turned it off and asked again - I said I couldn't hear him with his engine running and he told me that he'd turned it off..... so I told him I couldn't hear what he was saying with his engine running and he said......

I actually got him to yell 5 times that he HAD turned his engine off and eventually he walked over to me to tell me right up close.

I then said - "What was it you were shouting" and he'd forgotten! Even his boyfriend (I suppose it was his boyfriend) couldn't remember either - Isn't it worrying that these primates can reproduce

I think I shall enjoy wearing my kilt even more now

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 07:13 PM

I think you should get an agent and organise a world tour.

Perhaps you should hitch round Ireland like that bloke did with a fridge.

I'm sure a man in a kilt would be heir to a thousand interesting tales.

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Sorcha
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 08:00 PM

Oh dear.

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: open mike
Date: 27 Nov 05 - 08:28 PM

obviously sassenach accent?
what's that?
was it a Utillikilt?
hitch hiking with a fridge?
where? when?
'choke 'n' puke' -- that's a good one...

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Kaleea
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 12:50 AM

Each year in the fall, a gal friend gets to abandon her hubby for the day, & she & I (&whoever else) drive a couple hours to what we refer to as the "Men in Kilts Festival." It is actually a Scottish Festival & Games, and there are at least 3 pipe bands & lots of kilts. Some women wear kilts there, too. I don't think we'd have nearly as much fun if there weren't lots of men wearing kilts.

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Metchosin
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 01:33 AM

My daughter's chum wore a kilt to high school. He liked the kilt so much that, on occasion, he wore skirts as well. One day a group of louts beat the snot out of him in the school foyer, in front of the office windows and in full view of the security camera. They didn't like his kilt.

Afterwards, the teachers told him to stay away from the louts from then on and not to wear his skirts or kilt to school. Guess they didn't like kilts either.

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 04:30 AM

What's worn under the kilt?

Naything, Lassie, it's all as good and new...

:D (tG)

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Mr Red
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 08:00 AM

Juan P-B

FWIW I often get asked why I wear red - "Because I am a poser" usually ends that and we talk about - whatever.

Only once have I had the one to one with a really persistant stranger and I said "I am conducting a survey into tolerance"

That worked very effectively.

(because I want to and because I am a poser - that's the real reason)

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: MMario
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 09:11 AM

just remember the rules:

At the knee is a man;
Above the knee is a boy;
below the knee is a bleedin' braggert!

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Ernest
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 09:15 AM

So - why don`t you wear the full regalia?

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Rapparee
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 09:26 AM

Guy was wearing a utillikilt at the Farmers' Market here in Idaho this past summer (customer, not a vendor). Let's just say that if he was looking for comment he didn't find any; folks are actually pretty tolerant around here (unless you are a pedophile and then they became very, very intolerant).

I only saw him wear this once or twice and then he switched back to jeans or shorts.

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Metchosin
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 12:42 PM

No one is less tolerant than a group of teenagers whose idea of non-conformity is an unreconizeable lable on the backside of their jeans. I also don't suspect that many recognized themselves in the Lord of the Flies from English class in previous years.

Painful lesson to learn on exactly how far you can go if you decide it might be a hoot to push the envelope, although it does make it easier to understand just how the Nazis flourished during Germany's dark days.

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Juan P-B
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 01:30 PM

The 'obvously sassenach accent' is a bastardisation of my native 'Geordie', married to a Birkenhead lass for 12 years then married to a Dorset girl for 23 - In between is a career in the RN living for about 12 years in Cornwall' moi luvvrrrrrr!!

Love your response Mr Red! I AM a poser!

Ernest! I can't afford the full regalia - If I could I'd dress like Kenneth McKellar

Today someone (I thought she was a lady) asked me what tartan I was wearing. "McDonald!" says I - "Oh!" says she, "Where do you keep your quarter-pounder?"

I now have two kilts (McD & Black Watch) with an 'Anderson' on order. Not too keen on the sporran though - the tassles clatter as I walk and if it slips down it bangs me in the nuts.

But I shall persevere - I love the thing to bits and can't wait for my first visit to Scotland in one

And...... Thanks for your comments - Hope to see some of you at Fareham this coming Easter

Hasta
J P-B

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: lady penelope
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 02:22 PM

I think more men should wear kilts.

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 03:51 PM

why's that your ladyship?

do we really want all that sort of thing flopping about in public? Imagine getting out of a Ford fiesta in a high wind.

I always think it strange that you never see naked men in films. Actually its the male sex organ which is tabu. For example in Jurassic Park, you never saw a dinosaur's willy. its a cross species tabu.

did dinosaurs have penises, did they wear kilts? All this is hidden in the mists of time.

Perhaps it was actually like that and nobody ever saw a dinosaur's sex organ, not even the other dinosaurs - and this is why they died out. They were just really modest when they got out of Ford Fiestas and it contributed to their decline.

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: MMario
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 03:55 PM

I believe dinosaurs probably had cloacas - and thus no penis. But why wouldn't they have worn kilts? At least utilikilts - handy pckets and much easier to get on and off without opposable thumbs.

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Metchosin
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 04:32 PM

Nah, you're not a real poser, a real poser would wear a skirt.

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Juan P-B
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 06:09 PM

No Skirt!! I wore a flower-patterned frock and high heels once with itty-bitty bows in my beard & 'tache - Alison Davies & Iwere 'doing' "Sisters" from "Holiday Inn" for a charity gig - That was enough for going in drag - The kilt is as close as I'll get

The drummer from Oysterband always wears a grey kilt on stage and looks dead cool - I suppose I'll be that cool one day

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Big Mick
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 06:17 PM

I love wearing kilts and wear casual kilts when doing chores or running errands.

I also wear them while performing. I had one woman who came up and asked me several times what I was wearing under the kilt. Each time I gave her the same answer. She said she didna believe me. While on break between sets, while speaking with another couple, she walks up to me and lifts the kilt, gives a little shriek and drops the kilt, and runs back to her table. I guess you know who was the object of my jokes for the rest of the night.........

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 06:21 PM

The site of Ian Dedic in a utility kilt kept my dance partner giggling for an entire Committee Band gig. Gordan could carry it off but not Ian.

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: CET
Date: 28 Nov 05 - 06:57 PM

I occasionally wear a kilt - not a utilikilt, but made of denim, by Robert Pel of R Kilts, Stratford, Ontario. It's cut more like a traditional kilt than a utilikilt and looks a lot better. One day I hope to get a traditional kilt, perhaps in the St. David tartan, since I have no Scottish blood that I am aware of.

I would never have had the guts to wear a kilt when I was a teenager. Now that I am 48, I don't give a damn. I've never had any rude comments.

Edmund

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 04:46 AM

cloaca?
I did biology at school and that was the thing like a hanbag that cockroach's eggs were in.

how did that work out with dinosaurs?

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: MaineDog
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 11:38 AM

I frequently wear my kilt in public. I go to Scottish Country Dances, and other Scottish events regularly, and I perform in a Scottish orchestra, the Strathspey and Reel Society of New Hampshire. So I am frequently seen in restaurants and pubs, and pumping gas, etc, in my kilt. (see member photos.) Usually people don't say anything, but I have had several "nice kilt, man!" from teenagers, especially back when Braveheart was popular. I think that if you look comfortable and relaxed in your kilt, you won't get as many odd reactions.

I took it to be cleaned recently, at a local establishment. The bill said "ladies red pleated skirt" and when they pressed it they messed up my pleats, so I am going to have to redo the pressing or else get my resident kiltmaker to do it for me.

MD

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 11:50 AM

" Even his boyfriend"

That's rich from a nancy in a plaid skirt...

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 11:58 AM

Kilt = skirt.
Skirt on a man = Transvestism

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Micca
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 12:24 PM

flamenco ted
Scián dhu= a small knife worn in the sock with traditionl highland dress,
use= for piercing the ears of the English that refer to the Kilt as a Skirt!!

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Bard Judith
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 12:49 PM

You've got to check out "Bravehearts - men in kilts" then.

Contains some nice reasoning as to why trousers/trews/pants/bifurcated garments are more suitable for women, physiologically speaking, and why kilts/skirts/robes are more suited to men!   I found it fascinating (although perhaps the macho pictures of Sean Connery and Mel Gibson in kilts were part of the attraction)...

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Megan L
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 01:10 PM

ach Micca hae some pity on the wee scunner even Hitler got confused he refered to the HLI as the devils in skirts

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: lady penelope
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 01:33 PM

My brother used to do Scottish Social Dancing and his group were doing the display set for the opening of the local SSD Associations christmas do. My brother traditionally goes 'commando' when wearing his kilt and forgot all about having to do the display set. They turned up to the do. My brother realises he hasn't any underwear (apparently it's bad form to flash the judges etc.) and has to cadge a pair off someone else. The only person willing to give up their spare undies was a girl. My brother performed the opening set wearing red frilly knickers and a determined grin. Apparently one of the judges complimented him on his choice of underwear later on.........

Weelittledrummer - I think a lot of men look really good in kilts. Men have good looking legs too, why should men have all the fun of appreciating the human form? The 'hamster' problem can be amusing too.......   :)

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: MMario
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 01:36 PM

actually - if you check older gaelic dictionaries - you will find that kilt in gaelic = skirt in english. However - in ENGLISH, kilt and skirt are not synonyms

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Little Robyn
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 01:48 PM

It's now Nov 30th here in NZ - St Andrew's day.
My husband Mitch might wear his kilt to the gig tonight. Or maybe he'll wear his tartan trews instead.
There's gonna be haggis and neeps there! Yum!
Robyn

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Davetnova
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 04:15 PM

I'm staying out of this.(four kilts in wardrobe).

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Juan P-B
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 04:39 PM

Oh I am so pleased with all of the positives coming from this - I was a bit worried about the present Mrs P-B being embarrassed to be seen out with me but she's cool with it too -

My eldest daughter's uni pals think I'm supercool anyway as I'm (not in any particular order) super-hairy, Father Christmas, Ace folk & rock guitarist AND a walking 60's & 70's retro guitar archive - so they think the kilt is probably gonna be the next big 'must have' (after the Nano Pod)

BTW - What's a utilikilt? AND has it got pockets????? - You can get camouflage kilts here as well as PVC & leather - Definitley NOT for me

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 04:41 PM

Might I suggest you try http://www.utilikilts.com/

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Juan P-B
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 04:52 PM

Thanks Clinton! They're awesome AND with pockets.

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 04:52 PM

I suppose it depends on the man and the time, the ford fiesta , the ambient mood - so many variables!

has anybody seen under a dinosaur's kilt?

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 05:04 PM

I have a few chums who do roofing who SWEAR by their Utilikilts.... fortunalty they all have also opted for the "Modesty Snap" option....

Now if only we could get them on ALL plaid skirts.....

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Jeri
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 05:19 PM

It'd take all the fun out.

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Dead Horse
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 08:21 PM

Why the Anderson on order PB? Could it be we is related?
(me real monica is Ken Anderson, and I am proud to be able to wear that tartan, tho I never actually have since I was about 6yr old)

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Bard Judith
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 08:29 PM

My husband's brother is in the Canadian militia - the 48th Highlanders to be exact. One of the toughest and best-looking (next to my husband) guys I know...and boy, does he wear the kilt well! Not to mention all the rest of the kit.

If we are taking a poll: put me down for the 'kilts on men are sexy' option!

Now I just have to talk Husband into it...

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Big Mick
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 08:43 PM

I don't like the Utilikilt. Seems to me like a kilt with pockets is like a ......... shit ....... I can't think of a good analogy ..... could you all help me here????? ......... Anyway, it just doesn't seem right, and IMHO it doesn't look worth a shit either.

I am thinking of having a new one made in the Irish Diaspora tartan. Great looking pattern.

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Jeri
Date: 29 Nov 05 - 08:53 PM

It's like a kilt with pockets. They makes sense, but they aren't traditional, and un-subtle pockets aren't appropriate on formal attire. The also can add pounds to a guy's legs. For the traditionalist, it might be best to have a utility sporran with little loops to stick your hammer and screwdriver, flashlight and spare chanter in.

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: GUEST,Janine
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 05:15 AM

Kilts are great but how do you Scotmen manage without tights in a Highland winter? I can't!

Janine

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: GUEST,noddy
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 05:17 AM

Of course you need pockets on a kilt....you need simewhere to put your sporran!

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Juan P-B
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 05:18 AM

Dead Horse! I am actually a 'Wilson' and my clan tartan is the Gunn - However the options on the kilts I had were about 10 tartans which included the camouflage & black.

I went for Black Watch first as it ia a beautiful pattern with a magnificent history. The 2nd choice was 'Anderson' as it has the same beauty but is that lovely bloue base - Unfortunately they had run out of that tartan so I opted for McDonald (least amount of red in it) and ordered an Anderson when he gets the material.

To get a kilt made in my 'home' colours will cost about £150 - The ones I've bought are from a 'one-day' offer on e-bay - £25 for a 5yd handmade kilt sounded good to me and they are brill! - I am now also giving the bloke who makes them guitar lessons over the internet - for a discount consideration on me 'Anderson' kilt

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 05:48 AM

It's a girly skirt!

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: GUEST,Janine
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 06:02 AM

Try saying that in Glasgow, flamenco ted!

Janine

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Pistachio
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 06:14 AM

Can I suggest an all leather sporran won't 'clatter'.
My brother-in-law wears his Anderson on occasion and you're right - it is a lovely blue. I'm originally a McGregor and like the red tartan, my middle sister had 4 'flower girls' in black watch tartan dresses at her wedding and when my eldest sister married she made her friends dresses, 1 in rust and the other in lemon to perfectly co-ordinate with her new husbands' Macpherson Kilt.
As a child I remember the pipe bands arriving pre Highland Games and tuning up outside our house before marching with that 'certain swagger' to the Games Park. It's wonderful memory. Thanks.
Keep yer kilt on and enjoy whatever part of Scotland you get to and soon! May I recommend Bridge of Allan, Callander and the 'Trossachs'.
H.

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 06:17 AM

It's a girly skirt in Glasgow.

There!! I said it for you!

Subject: RE: BS: Wearing the kilt!!!
From: Davetnova
Date: 30 Nov 05 - 06:20 AM

how do we manage to wear the kilt in winter? Porridge!