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Don't you just hate it when...?

Barbara Shaw 18 Feb 99 - 07:04 PM
Sandy Paton 18 Feb 99 - 01:15 PM
rick fielding 18 Feb 99 - 11:32 AM
Sandy Paton 17 Feb 99 - 08:48 PM
Mudjack 17 Feb 99 - 08:56 AM
Barbara Shaw 17 Feb 99 - 08:45 AM
Sandy Paton 16 Feb 99 - 11:21 PM
Bob Biderman 16 Feb 99 - 10:01 PM
Sandy Paton 15 Feb 99 - 07:12 PM
hank 15 Feb 99 - 08:54 AM
Rick Fielding 15 Feb 99 - 03:53 AM
--seed 15 Feb 99 - 03:37 AM
Sandy Paton 15 Feb 99 - 01:15 AM
Belter 14 Feb 99 - 02:17 PM
R**K F******G 13 Feb 99 - 09:00 PM
The Juke Box Police 13 Feb 99 - 03:35 PM
Bill D 13 Feb 99 - 03:04 PM
Bill D 13 Feb 99 - 03:00 PM
rick fielding 13 Feb 99 - 02:44 PM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 13 Feb 99 - 09:50 AM
catspaw49 13 Feb 99 - 12:02 AM
Art Thieme 12 Feb 99 - 11:23 PM
12 Feb 99 - 10:22 PM
Sandy Paton 12 Feb 99 - 09:43 PM
Bill D 12 Feb 99 - 08:34 PM
Joe Offer 12 Feb 99 - 08:14 PM
catspaw49 12 Feb 99 - 07:58 PM
Bill D 12 Feb 99 - 03:04 PM
The Shambles 12 Feb 99 - 01:53 PM
Mudjack 12 Feb 99 - 01:09 PM
Bert 12 Feb 99 - 08:51 AM
Wolfgang 12 Feb 99 - 07:38 AM
Teresa 11 Feb 99 - 07:42 PM
Barbara 11 Feb 99 - 07:26 PM
Barbara Shaw 11 Feb 99 - 07:19 PM
Cuilionn 11 Feb 99 - 06:44 PM
Bill D 11 Feb 99 - 05:40 PM
Teresa 11 Feb 99 - 01:34 PM
Bert 11 Feb 99 - 10:48 AM
Guy Wolff 11 Feb 99 - 01:19 AM
Barry Finn 11 Feb 99 - 12:29 AM
Pete M 10 Feb 99 - 11:57 PM
Dan Keding 10 Feb 99 - 11:50 PM
Bill D 10 Feb 99 - 09:55 PM
Bert 10 Feb 99 - 03:42 PM
Mudjack 10 Feb 99 - 03:12 PM
Peter T. 10 Feb 99 - 10:56 AM
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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 18 Feb 99 - 07:04 PM

Sandy, that's a possibility! Altho, the last time we looked at the Penguin's menu in the window, there wasn't anything on it I recognized or would be willing to eat. (I'm more of a gourmand than a gourmet).

Didn't know they had entertainment.


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 18 Feb 99 - 01:15 PM

Yeah, I saw it, Rick, but I thought it was tuning "grouch."


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: rick fielding
Date: 18 Feb 99 - 11:32 AM

Sandy, rag me all you want. (not sure you've seen the reference to your tuning pouch in "crosspicking thread") The new album on Borealis will probably be out by early May. Thanks for asking.


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 17 Feb 99 - 08:48 PM

Supposed to get some lousy weather that night, Barbara. You may be glad you stayed down south to party, while Caroline and I may be singing to an empty hall! Glad I've got 4-wheel drive.

You might try Penguins Restaurant in Branford on March 17th. Caroline and I are not required to stick strictly to songs of the occasion, although we'll be on and off from 6:00 to 9:30 and will certainly sing a few of 'em.

Sandy


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Mudjack
Date: 17 Feb 99 - 08:56 AM

IJHIW or IJLOVEIW....We mudcatters get a great thread and go off on a rant. Jack


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 17 Feb 99 - 08:45 AM

. . . you finally get the chance to hear Sandy and Caroline Paton (this Saturday 2/20 at the Audubon Center in Glastonbury, CT at 7:30) and your bluegrass buddies are planning a surprise 50th birthday party for one of the gang the SAME EVENING!!

(Have a great gig, or as they say, break a string!)


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 16 Feb 99 - 11:21 PM

Okay, Bob (Glad to know you're aboard, too!), but I will promise not to rag Rick so much. He's so busy working on his new CD that I was afraid we'd never hear from him again.

When can we expect it to be available, Rick? I'm sure all of us Mudcatters will be lining up to get it!

Sandy


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Bob Biderman
Date: 16 Feb 99 - 10:01 PM

Hank, not to worry. As a Canadian I can assure you that you were all but right all along. Our money IS worthless, all except for the above mentioned jamming of jukeboxes.

Not only is our money worthless, but here in Ontario we have some neocon politicians... But then this is supposed to be about folk music.

As for you Mr. Paton, it seems like both you and Rick Fielding are Mudcatting around quite a bit these days. I think it's great to get together with both of you in this way. Don't stop!!

Bob Biderman


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 15 Feb 99 - 07:12 PM

Neither Ames nor Nancy's comeback venue in Amenia, NY, accepts loons, Hank. Sorry.

A personal aside: Jeez, Rick! How do you ever get any work done these days? Seems to me you're always Mudcattin' around!

Stoolie


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: hank
Date: 15 Feb 99 - 08:54 AM

My preconceptions about canadian money are ruined! Here I thought it was worthless, and then goes and tells me that it isn't. I hate that.


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 15 Feb 99 - 03:53 AM

Since Mr. Paton feels free to let folks know I dress myself from the racks at the Ames Emporium, he should also give the good people of Amenia NY a bit of a plug by telling the (mudcat) world that Nancy Sinatra started her big comeback tour in that little town. The newspaper ad stated "Her Boots are STILL made for walkin'" Sensible "catters" from outside the U S of A probably won't know much about Ms. Sinatra but in the 60s she started a fad for white plastic thigh high boots.


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: --seed
Date: 15 Feb 99 - 03:37 AM

we were invited to play a set for a cocktail party for a workshop of university summer session executives (one of our members, sally, is a former summer session exec and a former president of the association). They had a great sound system: vocal and instrument mikes for five of us, controlled by an engineer--who agreed to tape our set.

old friends came up to talk to Sally in the middle of a song, and stood there talking to her while we were trying to get another going. we could see we weren't getting much attention, but we didn't know why until we got the tapes: our mikes were omnidirectional and picked up the cocktail party conversation as clearly as the music. --seed


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 15 Feb 99 - 01:15 AM

I could file a deposition attesting to the fact that "Baby-Face Fielding" certainly does suffer from frequent attacks of temporary insanity like the one he describes above, if that'll help get him off. I once saw him buy a pair of running shoes at Ames in Amenia, New York (using my old-fart discount card). Sheer madness!

Sandy (the Stoolie)


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Belter
Date: 14 Feb 99 - 02:17 PM

I once heard a nationally known artist say that his high school music teacher told him he had a good voice, he could have really learned how to sing. (or words to that effect.)


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: R**K F******G
Date: 13 Feb 99 - 09:00 PM

Dear Juke box police. I knew I shouldn't have done it, and please believe me when I say ..choke..sob..I'm sorry! But you gotta hear my side of the story. Every night I hadda play "Fields of Athenrae"..Twice! and, and, yes.."The Band Played Waltzing Matilda", until I wished those Turks had wiped 'em all out! But there's more! Some drunk always wanted to get on stage and sing "Danny Boy"..and when I'd try to amuse myself by putting in a couple of diminished chords or an F#m6, they'd tell me I was playing it wrong! Then the management brings in that damn juke box. (in the seventeenth century they called it "the devils privy" you know) Look copper, I still had some of my sanity, but then the customers started playing Neil Diamond songs on my breaks! I cracked. When otherwise decent human beings started asking me for "Cracklin' Rosie", I knew I hadda do something, so I turned to the "Elmer's people" for help, and dammit, their glue cost less than an AK 47! Please have mercy on me.


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: The Juke Box Police
Date: 13 Feb 99 - 03:35 PM

Dear Mr. Fielding, Found your comment quite interesting. The Dick Turpins Wurlitzer Sabotage is still an open case in our book. And no, the Statute of Limitations has NOT run out because the mechanism is still jammed.Some more information regarding other juke box saboteurs would weigh heavily in your favor.We will be in touch soon.Very soon.


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Feb 99 - 03:04 PM

oh....um....*grin*...we also discovered that a Canadian nickel (with funny octagonal edges) would usually jam the thing totally...


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Feb 99 - 03:00 PM

Years ago, the was a Pizza Hut in Wichita Kansas, where there was one blank slot in the menu...you could put in a dime and buy 3 minutes of silence!...they made a mint!!


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: rick fielding
Date: 13 Feb 99 - 02:44 PM

Arrrghhh! (is that how it's spelled) Animaterra, you hit a nerve. In the bad old days when I played folky bars, there was always a TV and even sometimes a JUKE BOX! I got my revenge on a down town Toronto hotel (folky) bar by surreptitiously injecting half a tube of crazy glue into the money slot of the juke box . Hopefully the statute of limitations has run out,...so, Yes! Owners of "Dick Turpin's" it was Me who did it!


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 13 Feb 99 - 09:50 AM

DYJHIW: You're at a gathering of some sort with a moderator who says, after a few songs have been sung, "Well, now that we've heard from the singers, let's hear something from the MUSICIANS!"

DYJHIT: You and friends are at a sparsely populated bar that's trying to look like ye olde pub, and you start to sing, and the bartend asks you to keep it down because no one can hear the game on tv!


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Feb 99 - 12:02 AM

Hey Sandy...I think what made the sneeze so bad was my own stupidity. The hospital went to great lengths with pamphlets and videos and the like to explain what to do when you coughed. I even had to demonstrate the pillow to chest thing for a nurse. So when I coughed post surgery, it hurt like hell, but I felt I was doing a good job ... I could be a model for their tape. Real smug, you know? It never occurred to me until about half a second before I sneezed that if a cough was bad, and it was, what the hell was this going to be? It's amazing how many thoughts your brain can process in half a second, and how slow your body responds!

And Art...I hate to admit it but that bunch was good. I'm a little surprised that you didn't mention that every penile institution has a special section for those who have been condomed to death. And, since they followed his wishes, do you wonder how many times Lee Hays has "passed through" this life since he died?

catspaw


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 12 Feb 99 - 11:23 PM

I had a lady urologist who sang the blues!

Urethra Franklin.(rimshot)

In a couple days it'll be Valentines Day, So I sent her a TURPentine card instead of a Valentine.

(for the uninformed: A TURP is a roto-rooter job on the prostate. Trans Urethral Resection of the Prostate)

When she was convicted of malpractice she was incarcerated in a penile institution.

As Lee Hays said, "THIS TOO SHALL PASS. I'VE HAD GALL STONES AND I KNOW!!"

art


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
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Date: 12 Feb 99 - 10:22 PM

Catspaw -

Don't You Really, Just Hate It when the Doc says, "I'm gonna check your prostate now," and you realize he's got BOTH his hands on your shoulders !!!


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 12 Feb 99 - 09:43 PM

Catspaw: When I had my quad, it wasn't the sneeze, but the leftover coughing that came from the cigarettes I had just given up the morning I went into the hospital. Smoked for 53 years, and was happy to give 'em up before I became addicted! But, oh God, those frequent coughs! Murder! Fits right in with a "don't you just hate it when..." thread, doesn't it?

Sandy


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Feb 99 - 08:34 PM

gee, catspaw & Joe...you must REALLY have fun during a sigmoidoscopy!!


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Feb 99 - 08:14 PM

You and I speak the same language, Catspaw. I can tolerate anything else, but not THAT!!
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: catspaw49
Date: 12 Feb 99 - 07:58 PM

You know, I been readin' along on this thread for days and all I can think of is nothing but nothing musically has ever bothered me as much as..."Don't You Just Hate It When"...the doctor says, "Let's check that prostate." Yep' that does it for me!

I mean like I've had a quad by-pass and that first sneeze after surgery is not to be forgotten, but somehow the prostate thing wins out hands down (and butts-up). Maybe if my doc had thinner fingers, or if my prostate was a tad closer to my asshole.............

Don't like my songs, my singin', my pickin', my instruments......DON'T CARE !!!!!!! Unless you're a doctor (medical) say what you want!!! I grant that the exam is better than the alternative, but(t) still.......WWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEE

catspaw


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Feb 99 - 03:04 PM

Barbara Shaw...well, in my area (east coast USA) there is the "Indian Neck" weekend..occasionally called "Snot Hollow" by both the invited and the un-invited..there are a couple more which don't have quite the 'aura' as Indian Neck. I know a number of people who go to these, and some take GREAT pains not to make those who do not go feel left out...and some who make sure you ARE aware of who is in the inner circle and who is not.

As in any groups anywhere, membership in elite clubs or 'circles' in based both on talent and politics, and there are amazing undercurrents of gossip, resentment, cameraderie, happiness, sharing, exclusion...etc...going on all the time. I have never aspired to, or fretted about, my 'status' much...but I do hate it when I become aware of ill feelings. I go to lots of nice things, and it is just not worth worrying whether someone has a party and doesn't invite me!

( I probably should not have even said THIS much in print, but most of us know that the situation is real....and unavoidable)


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: The Shambles
Date: 12 Feb 99 - 01:53 PM

You get your Tenor Banjo out and you are asked to play Duelling Banjos.

In the UK it seems that it is the only banjo tune that people know and like, even though they don't realise you need a Five String Banjo. Well I suppose it's better than not knowing any, but it does reinforce my view that the music we love would be very popular if only people were exposed to it. A very drunk person went to ask me once and couldn't remember the title, he struggled for a bit and then in triumph came out with 'Battling Banjos'! It has been referred to as that ever since.


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Mudjack
Date: 12 Feb 99 - 01:09 PM

answer for Bert, we remain nice because we have song group manners and know we accept others rndentions for what they are, like Bill D says, we all come in a package.Well put Bill. .... I just hate when you have a free week end and theres nothing on your music calendar.


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Bert
Date: 12 Feb 99 - 08:51 AM

....You and a few friends are singing (one acoustic guitar, three voices) on the front porch and the police drive by and tell you to be quiet.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Wolfgang
Date: 12 Feb 99 - 07:38 AM

"that all sounds similar", when I play one of my favourite records.

Wolfgang

P.S.: and one of my best loved remarks followed by a kind of letdown:
"Hey, what a nice sound on that tape. Is it a new Irish group?" Half a minute later: "How did you get your voice on that tape?"

one more P.S.: "You know I don't like your folkmusic, usally, but that bit sounds interesting" (DeDannan was playing their version of 'Hey Jude')


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Teresa
Date: 11 Feb 99 - 07:42 PM

Barbara, you got that right! Teresa


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Barbara
Date: 11 Feb 99 - 07:26 PM

...and, Teresa, when you play your friends your latest Bok/Trickett/Muir recording, and they say, "...that's nice; sounds like Peter, Paul and Mary, doesn't it?"


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Barbara Shaw
Date: 11 Feb 99 - 07:19 PM

Bill D,

What exclusive, invitation-only weekends?!!! Don't you just hate it when these things are going on, and you are so low on the scale that you don't even know about them???


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Cuilionn
Date: 11 Feb 99 - 06:44 PM

...ye gae tae post sumpit, an' ye're hopin' tae present yersel' as someane wi' a wee bit o' lairnin' whae's tryin' tae be helpfu', but ilka time ye try an' post yir response ye get some unco' error message sayin' ye cannae load th' page, an' then when it finally gaes thro' ye discover tae yir grait chagrin that ye've postit yir response nae ance, but three times, for th' tryin', an' ye end up luikin' like some computer-eejit jist alang for th' ride...

...Or ye wricht in Braid Scots tae answer a query aboot Braid Scots, an' th' puir mon wi' th' original query turns oot tae speak sumpit ither than English as his fairst language, an' ye feel doonricht thochtless an' hairtless.

--th' chastened but still Scots-entrappit Cuilionn


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Feb 99 - 05:40 PM

Bert...yep..I should have made that point too, I have known wonderful musicians who really were kind & tolerant and helpful...but, I must say, I have known the other kind, too...I know one or two good singers who simply do not attend ANY 'open' song circles anymore because they cannot tolerate average to mediocre performances...*sigh*..the thing is, you usually don't hear them say so...they are just not there. I guess that if one is good enough, he can usually be the star at a paying gig, or go to invitation only retreats and never have to tolerate the hoi polloi of folk music.

But since this thread is called..."don't you hate it when..." ..I HATE it when they come back from invitation only weekends and drop names and make references to how wonderful and exclusive it was...


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Teresa
Date: 11 Feb 99 - 01:34 PM

I hate it when I show someone recordings of Priscilla Herdman's renditions of particularly lyrical Henry Lawson material; they seem to listen with rapt attention, then invariably say, "Oh, neat; sounds like Joan Baez!" No offense to Joan intended, but they totally miss the point! Teresa


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Bert
Date: 11 Feb 99 - 10:48 AM

Bill D,

Now I've noticed that the BEST musicians seem to be the most tolerant of my poor guitar playing and the most encouraging.

Pete M,

"It proves they listened", Good point, it sure does. Thanks for reminding me.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Guy Wolff
Date: 11 Feb 99 - 01:19 AM

When ...you play your new CD for someone and they ask if next time you might think of doing an instromental album.....Awh well....... When....someone says they would like to help finance your next CD if their dog can be on the cover photo {No, realley a true story!}...God I love it.....Great thread Shambles.............Cheers.....GUY....


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Barry Finn
Date: 11 Feb 99 - 12:29 AM

Years ago I tried learning the guitar & was practicing & humming to myself & watching the sun set behind an island when this guys walks up, stops & askes if I'll play something, "nope, I just begining, don't know how","well can you sing a cowboy song"? I had a small part of one worked out so I says maybe I can do a little of this one.

"I'm a rambler, Lord I'm a gambler,
I'm a long way from my home
If the people they don't like me
They can leave my alone"

before I could get to:

"It's dark Lord & it's raining
And the moon gives off no light
My pony can't hardly travel
On this dark road at night"

He starts heading off, pissed, yelling "you don't know an Irish song from a *&%$# cowboy song". I couldn't help yelling after him if he'd have listened a bit more before being the ass he was he'd have figured out the difference. Barry. who's leary of doing perticular requests.


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Pete M
Date: 10 Feb 99 - 11:57 PM

Just a thought for those of you who have mentioned the "Folk police/nazi's". They may have an annoying way of putting their point of view - but at least it proves they listened to your performance, which is surely better than treating you as a quaint form of muzak to be talked over?

Pete M


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Dan Keding
Date: 10 Feb 99 - 11:50 PM

Talk about folk police. I hate it when they come up to me and say "that story, you told it all wrong" and I wrote the story.


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Feb 99 - 09:55 PM

we remain mostly polite because people come as a package deal, and there is usually something good even in the tedious ones..(and some of the best musicians can be the most opinionated and unyielding)...and I have acquaintences who are good and kind and generous...but who strain my muscial credulity to the extreme..(and, I always wonder if they don't have a few opinions about me!)...


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Bert
Date: 10 Feb 99 - 03:42 PM

"Folkmusic Gestapo"

Jack mostly, are these the same folk-Nazis who say "You sang that wrong" when you sing a version you learned before they were born?

Bert. (Why DO we try to remain polite?)


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Mudjack
Date: 10 Feb 99 - 03:12 PM

I hate when someone says,"Page 150 in Rise Up Singing",especially after someone has already done it. I also hate when a "Folkmusic Gestapo" wants to debate how a song is supposed to be done. I too smile and try to ignore bad manners. Jack...


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Peter T.
Date: 10 Feb 99 - 10:56 AM

Another true story for piano players -- I once played "As Time Goes By" in a bar, and someone came up to me immediately after with his girlfriend and said, "that is really good, do you know the song from Casablanca? It's our favourite."

Yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Feb 99 - 01:11 AM

...it really happened..#1..I was messing around with my autoharp, when a guy came by and stood and looked interested...so I sort of launched into "Wildwood Flower"...he listened and said, "I used to know a guy who played one of them things...he could play real melodies and everything..."

...it really happened #2...I was sitting in a park near a volleyball game, watching and playing my autoharp...on the case was a bumpersticker which said--"Take an Autoharp Player Home to Dinner"...a girl came riding up on a bicycle and stopped and listened a minute, then sort of twisted her head to read the sticker...and then looked me in the eye and enquired..."What do you eat?"......I do not recall to this day what I said...


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 09 Feb 99 - 11:45 PM

When they say "Come sing for our organization. We can't afford to pay you, but it'll be great exposure!" and my wife replies, "People can die of exposure."

Sandy (who lets Caroline pay the bills)


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Subject: RE: Don't You Just Hate It When..............?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 09 Feb 99 - 11:29 PM

I hate it when they've got more votes than we have!

...more say than we have.

...more clout than we have.

...more chocolate...

...more deductions...

...more loopholes...

...more condoms...

money

etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. ...

Art


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