BS: New rules for the coming pandemic

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 Mar 20 - 12:17 PM

BBC website, reporting on the fact that UK Supermarket executives deny the claim by Matt Hancock that supermarkets had been consulted and given assurances on the continued supply of food, and contingency for getting food to self-isolating peeps. Supermarket spokesman (not named) said:

"We are using processes and staffing levels we set up in case of a no-deal Brexit."

The executive added: "While I think people don't need to panic buy and should just shop normally, I'm not sure the government can guarantee all food supply in all instances."

There was no suggestion that there were food shortages, but people bringing forward some purchases was creating logistical challenges, he said.

So on the plus side, Brexshit has proved one bonus, not that it can brag about it, being unforeseen, unwanted and the only one........... so far.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Iains
Date: 06 Mar 20 - 11:49 AM

As of 9am on 6 March 2020, 20,338 people have been tested in the UK, of which 20,175 were confirmed negative and 163 were confirmed as positive. One patient who tested positive for COVID-19 has died.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Mar 20 - 09:51 AM

If the Rugby 6 nations is postponed,
at least we can fall back on the Pandemic 6 Nations competition..

For a change, Italy is winning...

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Jack Campin
Date: 06 Mar 20 - 09:32 AM

11 cases now in Scotland. One of them in Lothian, where I live.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Mar 20 - 09:21 AM

Traffic is slow, people are all smiles and have the anticapatory anxiety of a snow storm that will miss us entirely. Grocery stores except for Costco and Walmart are fully stocked.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Mar 20 - 05:42 AM

Living on borrowed time has come to sn end. Its here with 11"found" cases among folks returning from Italy. It time to put the new rules to daily use.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 11:17 PM

Hospitals where I live are screening visitors at their front doors. Just answer a few simple questions correctly and you get a sticky label with the name of whatever day of the week it is to put on your shirt and you're good to go. Answer the questions incorrectly and I'm not sure what happens. Get tossed into the bio-waste incinerator, maybe?

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 10:48 PM

David Pogue on CBS Sunday Morning in 2010 did a good story on the subject, with illustrations.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 10:14 PM

I guess I chickened out about going to Berlin in May. I'm 71 and not as strong and healthy as I'd like to be. So, I think maybe it's not a good idea to fly to Europe. We've been wanting to explore Colorado Springs and Pike's Peak and all that, so maybe we'll do that in May.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 08:58 PM

Good for you. But as soon as I've panic-bought at least 500 bottles of red wine and two years' supply of hand sanitiser, disinfectant spray, baked beans, pot noodles, headache tablets and toilet paper, I promise to behave rationally. Honest.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: mg
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 08:14 PM

let's plan ahead so families are not left with corpses, hospitals can remove bodies quickly, nothing is even taken to a morgue i hope..straight to a cremation facility. let's get self driving ambulances and hearses at least in china, which has a big tesla factory and pretty empty streets..can start there. let's ridicule and shame people so ones who are socially sensitive shut up instead of bringing up necessary subjects. i am socially obtuse and care about almost nobody's opinion anyway so have at it.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 08:14 PM

I'll get hysterical once I've bought 500 rolls of bog paper and can then REALLY start panic-buying...

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Mossback
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 06:53 PM

BRING OUT YOUR DEAD !!! BRING OUT YOUR DEAD !!!



I mean, lets all get hysterical about this....

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 04:03 PM

OMG lol
One can always use a phone book and plastic bag in a pinch.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Helen
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 03:53 PM

There was a major disaster in Australia yesterday, apparently. A big truck carrying toilet paper crashed and then caught on fire.

"Toilet paper wipeout! Thousands of rolls are feared DESTROYED as delivery truck crashes and bursts into flames."

Hello! This would not have even been talked about by the locals let alone making national sensationalist news headlines without the panic being generated by some irresponsible media outlets.

Sensationalist coronavirus reporting a 'bigger contagion' than the virus itself

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 03:16 PM

There are many bogus and preposterous cures for Corona virus emerging.
India is using clove nose drops with a secret ingredient. pee
Mexico is so superstitious they rely on witch doctors.
Now the US has an organic cure that is going Facebook viral, 0.5 grams of finely grated White Nationalist testicles. Beware of imitations. They advise you get it in person. Make white nationalists grate again.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 03:13 PM

"Never use anything anti-bacterial. If it kills, say, 99.9% of germs, only the .1% strongest are left to multiply. Not good."

Nonsense, I'm afraid. These products, used properly, kill all germs. The manufacturers, however, can't make that claim because there's always the chance of someone misusing their product who will catch the germ then blame the product. The manufacturers are simply covering their arses. In the olden days we had ads for a bleach that claimed that it killed "all known germs." Note the variation on the caveat. I'm an atheist, as much as anyone is an atheist. But I'm only 99.9% certain that there's no God. Same kind of thinking.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Senoufou
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 02:34 PM

At the doctor's surgery today, we noticed they'd removed the touch-screen thing for signing in. But the lovely nurse Jayne (she lives in our village just round the corner!) gave me a big hug. I thought this was lovely of her and didn't care one bit about germs.
I was also heartened to see no huge scary notices pinned up about symptoms or 'what to do if...'.
We did wash our hands when we got home, but we always have done anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 02:25 PM

Never use anything anti-bacterial. If it kills, say, 99.9% of germs, only the .1% strongest are left to multiply. Not good.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 02:10 PM

News reports coming in that leading UK pharmacies are now rationing anti bacterial products
as profiteering scum have been buying it all up off the shelves
to put on ebay at extortionate prices...

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Helen
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 01:32 PM

Tea tree oil is brilliant stuff. It is antiseptic. You can dilute it because some people might have a skin reaction if the amount is too strong.

I didn't think of using it for antiseptic hand wipes but it could work. Maybe. Whether it works against COVID19 is another question.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Jack Campin
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 01:25 PM

Thanks to William Dalrymple for finding this brilliant suggestion.

It's bullshit.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 01:02 PM

Hold on... I've just remembered grandad - my dad's dad - got to 80..

But I rarely think about his side of the family,
and I don't recall ever seeing that grandad
awake or move out of his armchair...???

So.. I may have long life genes on both sides after all, that's a bonus..

Not that corona will care much and give a me special pass...

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 12:16 PM

I now wear gloves which reminds me if I touch my face.
You will find it the hardest habit to break.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 11:36 AM

no men in my close family have reached 70 since great grandad back in the 1940s...

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 11:34 AM

Most of you will be part of this global lottery.
I'm OK with any result since my number is up in 3 years anyway.

How about you?

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Iains
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 11:16 AM

As of 9am on 5 March 2020, 18,083 people have been tested in the UK, of which 17,968 were confirmed negative and 115 were confirmed as positive.
Cases
East of England
8
London
25
Midlands
9
North East and Yorkshire
10
North West
17
South East
17
South West
15
To be determined
4
Total
105

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Iains
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 07:52 AM

Coal tar soap is for wimps. Far better to go the whole hog and use creosote. I seem to remember reading somewhere it is a thousand times stronger than cresol. The host may suffer collareral damage however.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 07:18 AM

the great trump hunch

Trump has a hunch his numbers are best
his truth is better than all the rest.
The Pense Prayer to walk before you crawl
will save you from any thinking at all

Even if it doesn't make sense
go to work if you are sick or tense
I've done the best, its clear to see
It will all go away if you vote for me.

The Democrat is sickest by far
to politicize a cold like SARS
Its better to kill them if they come near
with all their coughing and media fear

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Mr Red
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 05:34 AM

Wiki defines Rubbing Alcohol redirected from Surgical Spirts as either isopropyl based or ethanol based. My bottles of Surgical Spirits are ethanol and methanol at an unspecified concentration but take that as around 127^o proof / 70% ABV.

Not the best thing for continued use but as a back-up can be put in smaller containers for emergency use, say in rucksack & car & shopping bag and &............
How effective is tea tree oil? Ozzies avoided conscription in WW2 if they worked collecting it, they thought it effective.

Pfr - So basically, if we need to clean Dr's clinics and shop touch pads etc, - use a smart phone dabber, and clean that regularly, with alcohol or..............

COME BACK COAL TAR SOAP - all is forgiven!

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 04:41 AM

If pilgrimage sites are included in the list of places to avoid for fear of catching something nasty, it rather brings into question the point of pilgrimages.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 04:14 AM

If I am dead, I will be in purgatory hopefully and it will not matter in the least if I went or not.

All of us, rich or poor, meek or mighty, will be dead in the end. What would be the point of doing anything if it didn't matter in the least if it was done or not? I intend to make the most of what I have got. I will be a long time dead.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: mg
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 09:26 PM

if i am exposed at home, which i very well could be, i could bring it to airports, hostels, train stations, restaurants, pilgrimage sites, st. patrick's day celebrations. Or I could pick up something there. Not worth the disruption to the lives of others or myself. If I am dead, I will be in purgatory hopefully and it will not matter in the least if I went or not.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 08:50 PM

so glad i cancelled my trip .....
......so we are probably all exposed.

If you are exposed at home, you may well to catch it anyway, so cancelling your trip could be a waste of time. If it is as bad as some people are trying to make out, by late September you could be just a statistic. I would have taken the trip while I was still alive to do it.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 07:42 PM

I think I'd rather risk catching it sooner to get it out the way with,
than living in increasing fear day by day trying to postpone the inevitable...

Surviving in an isolated prepper bunker until a vaccine is widely available freely for all,
aint an option...

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: mg
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 07:28 PM

so glad i cancelled my trip to ireland and spain for next week. rescheduled for late september. would have been on trains, in hostels, heathrow airport etc. had great travel insurance but not worth either bringing bug to europe or bringing something back. i live in washington state so we are probably all exposed.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 06:54 PM

Another cruise ship actually has infections aboard.
Its docking in San Francisco may be delayed which is a shame because it was only supposed to be a 3 hour cruise a 3 hour cruise.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: robomatic
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 06:48 PM

Soylent for that keto diet you've been looking so forward to!

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 05:56 PM

For those who enjoy the entertainment of a good out break movie like Matt Damon's 'Outbreak' there is also Tom Hanks 'Inferno'.

I never liked Z Nation because the infected were healthier than me.

Sunlight disinfects on a dry day
Don't forget to "bring out your bread"...clang

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Helen
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 05:21 PM

Song for COVID19: If you're happy and you know it, wash your hands.

I can't claim credit for that. It was a parting comment on an item in a forum.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 04:53 PM

Yorkshire ramps up the Covid-19 Threat Level...

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Helen
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 03:27 PM

Jack Campin said, "It also doesn't help if your funeral customs involve the whole family chopping Grandma up to eat her brains".

I was watching a recent episode of Trust Me I'm A Doctor and one of the doctors was test driving a powdered meal replacement/shake. In one scene there was an image of a few brands of shakes and one brand was Soylent.

If anyone is old enough to remember the film called Soylent Green then you would know why I was taken aback. Is this brand name a joke or do they not know what the ingredient supposedly was in Soylent Green?

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 03:19 PM

According to its safety data sheet, Servisol Super10 doesn't seem to be alcohol based. Its application is as a lubricant and is a mixture of petroleum distillates. Repeated exposure may cause skin dryness or cracking.

DC

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Iains
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 02:37 PM

"The World Health Organization announced Tuesday the global mortality rate from coronavirus was 3.4%. The death rate so far — which includes more than 3,000 deaths — is many times higher than the mortality rate of the seasonal flu, which is 0.1%. WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said that is at least partly because COVID-19 is a new disease, and no one has built up an immunity to it."

It could also be said that those that have the virus and show a mild reaction to it will not show on any statistics. This would skew the mortality rate and make it appear much higher than it is.

Time will tell.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 01:41 PM

I panic bought half a dozen eggs this afternoon, even though I still had two left in a box. Call me Mr Selfish, but I'll not be deprived of my omelette...

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 01:37 PM

Wife says all the anti bacteria soap has sold out in tesco...

I used to buy Tandy spray cans of contact cleaner.
One with added lube, the other without, so mostly alcohol..
I should have an old litre can of ethanol [or similar] somewhere in the house..

I now have cans of servisol super 10, but can't see contents listed on spray cans..


So basically, if we need to clean Dr's clinics and shop touch pads etc,
all we need is an aerosol of alcohol contact cleaner.. and a lighter...

Spectacular pocket sized flame thrower...!!!

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 12:56 PM

sorry the mood setting was set waay to high for the auto post 2000.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 12:56 PM

Just to clarify, the WD40 I referred to isn't the usual lubricant version but a special version for cleaning electrical contacts. Yep, propanol = rubbing alcohol. It does kill germs. I used it a lot for cleaning and sterilising harmonica parts from harps obtained from other people. The contact cleaner isn't pure propanol. It's got other stuff in it that might not be so desirable for killing germs on surfaces or skin.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 12:45 PM

d-5, s-1 autopost 3-4-20:

I hope everyone is happy and healthy on this great Spring day.
Its all sunshine warm with blooming cheery cherry trees and daffodils.

Love always,
Donuel.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Iains
Date: 04 Mar 20 - 12:41 PM

maybe the excise duty on vodka will be dropped for the duration. Smirnoff is 50%alcohol. However 70% ethanol is reckoned to be best. Any higher percentage may evaporate before it can permeate through the cell wall and terminate the little beastie.
Many hand sanitizers contain up to 60%-95% ethanol or isopropyl alcohol

As of 4 March, a total of 16,659 people have been tested in the UK, of which 16,574 were confirmed negative. 85 were confirmed as positive.