BS: New rules for the coming pandemic

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 01:18 PM

Iains - see my post


Date: 26 Feb 20 - 12:18 PM

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Iains
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 01:03 PM

I see Verhoftwat is worried that Erdogan has allowed numerous refugees to escape into Europe. Will this include Isis carrying the corona 19 virus?

https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/US-military-in-Iraq-and-Middle-East-prepare-for-coronavirus-threat-618769


https://www.hstoday.us/subject-matter-areas/counterterrorism/isis-lauds-death-and-terror-of-coronavirus-oubreak/
and for the tin hat conspiracy theorists
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-intel-agencies-warned-rising-risk-outbreak-coronavirus-n1144891

Just as well we kept out of the Schengen area This fortress built by Nature for herself
Against infection and the hand of war,
This happy breed of men, this little world,
This precious stone set in the silver sea,
Which serves it in the office of a wall,
Or as a moat defensive to a house,

The remainiacs would have left us with wide open borders, but eventually, after 3.5 years of strife, we regained our sovereignty.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Senoufou
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 01:01 PM

Hahahaa! Reminds me of the jam butty mines of Knotty Ash!

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 12:53 PM

I asked her..
Nope, she's not familiar with it either.
So she googled, and it turns out to be an Aussie slang import..

Over here slabs will be more associated with the older morbid meaning
as the pandemic spreads further...

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 12:42 PM

Well it’s unknown to me, and I’ve never heard it referred as such to in my part of The Backwoods. But I’m not a boozer, so....

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 12:41 PM

My mrs is a valleys girl.. I'll ask her...

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 12:31 PM

A 'slab' is a colloquial term for a flat package of canned beers (usually 24, but sometimes fewer).
I hadn't realised that the term was unknown elsewhere (if that is the 'case').

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 12:23 PM

LOL pfr! :-) :-)

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 12:15 PM

Slabs of Welsh beer are hewn from underground beer seams..
Tiles of lighter ales are hacked out from beer quarries...

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 11:48 AM

”Yesterday I went to Tesco and bought two slabs of beer and three of cider.”

Is beer in slabs a Cardiff thing? Everywhere else I know, beer comes in bottles, cans, or draught.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 11:38 AM

that was my guess before I went to bed..
probably nearer 70 - 100 tomorrow...???

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Iains
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 11:24 AM

Coronavirus: 12 more cases confirmed in UK, taking total in Britain to 35 – latest updates from the gruniard - presumably not everything they print is false news.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 10:59 AM

"Panic buying", or at least "laying in supplies" has already started.
Yesterday I went to Tesco and bought two slabs of beer and three of cider.
Of course, my purchases weren't based on any virus, but Wales introduces a new 50p per unit (of alcohol) minimum pricing tomorrow ;)

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 10:48 AM

Social distancing will be a coming source of more disputes if one is even slightly bumped. A resulting fist fight will be judged too costly by both parties.

So far Iran has the worst outbreak. It does make one go to conspiracies sadly.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 10:19 AM

Upon reading this thead twice I found that I said the same thing as Backwoodsman, "there are worse things than Covid 19 like mass shootings..." but his way of saying it was pointed to the point of breaking the skin of nationality. These are the days of going over the top, quick to anger and slow to forgive. Still there is more wisdom here than other places on the internet that goes straight to death threats at the drop of a hat.

So far I have found that correcting normal behavior of the past to the brave new world of pandemic changes, has been met with mixed results. I have seen no obvious changes in supplies. The recession is too far ahead to see at this time.

An eventual vaccine will be memorable. I remember the line for the polio vaccine went outside the school for a quarter mile.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 09:00 AM

From: Donuel - PM
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 05:42 AM

Demise by despair (drugs, guns and suicide) is a catastrophe and is endemic in the US. Portugal has better numbers and policies than the US. The UK has better numbers and policies over guns . Numbers change when people change.

Leave it to say Backwoodsman, we are amused at different things.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 06:29 AM

”I hear the malevalence in the written voices of some Brits expressing a deep seated predjudice against Aericans/yanks losing their shit. Perhaps in vino veritas. Alcohol changes voices on a Saturday night.
So be it.”

Alcohol doesn’t change my voice on a Saturday night or, for that matter, at any time. I haven’t consumed alcohol since 21st December, 2005 - not a single mouthful.

The USA has an ongoing epidemic of deaths by shooting. Only a fool would try to deny that fact.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Iains
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 06:26 AM

If France has banned large crowds with 43 cases of the lurgy perhaps the UK with only half the number should ban small crowds as well.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 06:10 AM

Backwoodsman doesn't drink and it ill-behoves you to make assumptions about anyone's posts being alcohol-fuelled unless you're sat next to them seeing them drinking or unless they tell you that they're drinking. You're a disgrace, aren't you.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 05:42 AM

Demise by despair (drugs, guns and suicide) is a catastrophe and is endemic in the US. Portugal has better numbers and policies than the US. The UK has better numbers and policies over guns . Numbers change when people change.

I hear the malevalence in the written voices of some Brits expressing a deep seated predjudice against Aericans/yanks losing their shit. Perhaps in vino veritas. Alcohol changes voices on a Saturday night.
So be it.

Mr. Red, my point is that as individuals we can only change ouselves. I have no say over Turkey. Thanks for being level headed.

For those who want revenge or blame or punative satisfaction, think twice, cooler heads often prevail.

If any/all of us get sick it is better sooner than later, while hospitals are not overwhelmed if needed.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Iains
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 05:17 AM

Based on the World Health Organization’s declaration that this is a public health emergency of international concern, the UK Chief Medical Officers have raised the risk to the UK from low to moderate.(29th Feb.)10,483 people have been tested in the UK, of which 10,460 were confirmed negative and 23 positive.

France, with 42 cases, bans gatherings of more than 5,000 due to coronavirus (Reuters)

I wonder when the supermarkets start having panic buying?(apart from Oz, where allegedly it is already happening)

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 05:04 AM

Quite amusing to hear of Americans losing their shit over one Coronavirus death, while the average of 55 shooting-deaths per day that’s gone on for years and years passes straight over their gun-nut heads.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Mr Red
Date: 01 Mar 20 - 04:20 AM

a bin of bulk licorice candy at the store.

Yea I was going to point out that a UK store (Wilko) that has taken the dead mantle shed by the demise of Woolworths UK and with it the most iconic brand to its bosom.

Pick 'n Mix Sweets

How's that for spreading viruses from kiddies mitts?

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 08:01 PM

Wow. an actual death in the USA. Well that should focus your minds. 3000 have died in foreign countries, chaps. But at least they weren't Americans, eh? Reminds me of those spoof headlines we sometimes see that aren't actually far from the truth, "Two Britons and 288 foreigners killed in plane crash," or "Fog in English Channel: continent cut off..."

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 06:30 PM

and NO he did not knuckle under like reports suggest.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 05:53 PM

My wife's boss

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: keberoxu
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 02:03 PM

And now, a death in the United States.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 01:46 PM

Changing the subject back to the actual subject..

[howzat for thread drift...!!!???]

Headlines are emerging about infected people passing the virus to their pets...

..basically it seems worldwide govt strategies to limit routes of infection are f@cked...??????????

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Iains
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 01:29 PM

Not that I want this thread to degenerate into recriminations and accusations,
So why so post insults? You offer an extremely fertile field for retaliation should one have the inclination.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 01:13 PM

Not that I want this thread to degenerate into recriminations and accusations, I saw Inane pick his nose and wipe it on a Daily Mail magazine rack and Mr. Ted plunged his bare dirty hands into a bin of bulk licorice candy at the store.

New rules people, com'on

Watch and revise your own habits.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 08:15 AM

Not that want this to spiral in to xenophbia & accusations thereof but:

I heard on the BBC news just that Turkey had stated it was opening its borders to migrants seeking to get to Europe.

Given that there is barely enough governance in Syria and Iran has recorded COVID-19 this is clearly a vector that will have a very poor audit trail.

Have a happy Leap Day!

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Iains
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 07:08 AM

Yes, there are a couple posting above.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 05:51 AM

Some people are beyond redemption or any kind of empathy, Steve.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 05:37 AM

I would never wish ill-health on anybody, but if someone I don't like, Trump for example, got ill I'd be inclined to wish them an exceptionally gradual recovery...

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 03:37 AM

”I have also thought that your Trumpty-Dumpty might pick it up from his visit to Asia.”

We can but hope, Helen - fingers and toes crossed! ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Helen
Date: 28 Feb 20 - 09:28 PM

I saw some news footage of the Pope and a small child held up by its parents to greet him.

That's exactly what I thought of when I saw it. He is risking his health.

I have also thought that your Trumpty-Dumpty might pick it up from his visit to Asia.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 28 Feb 20 - 07:34 PM

The Japanese March Sumo Wrestling Tournament
is under consideration for postponement/cancellation..

What'll we do for 15 evenings...!!!???

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Feb 20 - 06:48 PM

The Pope presided over ash wednesday and now has a bad cold.
His events are canceled next week.

He should visit Trump.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Senoufou
Date: 28 Feb 20 - 06:18 PM

Yes, an Italian brought it into Nigeria. I feel that if it took a hold in the poorer African countries, there's be utter carnage, as medical facilities and basic care are negligible.
Sadly I can't see it avoiding Africa as there will be travellers passing in and out, and the major cities there are thronged with people out in the streets. Hygiene is pretty poor anyway, and many of the people are not in perfect health.
Same applies to India I expect.
My husband is very worried for his huge family in Abidjan.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 28 Feb 20 - 06:07 PM

You say that but it's in sub-Saharan Africa.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 28 Feb 20 - 05:01 PM

This virus doesn't seem to like warmer weather...maybe as the northern hemisphere moves into spring its spread will slow down..?

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Feb 20 - 03:47 PM

USA has quarantine laws. It is not as heavy handed as China.
Trump may deal with immigrants in a facsist manner but pulling over a US trucker, telling him to abandon his load and come with us, is just not going to happen. Jack your data is wierd to me.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Jack Campin
Date: 28 Feb 20 - 02:58 PM

America will not shut down like China and Japan. Only China can.

And what does an American city look like on public holidays?

The US is a world leader in shutting public facilities down.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 28 Feb 20 - 01:36 PM

2020 has got to be the wake up call for the airlines and international tourist travel industry..

The healthy eco friendly future for us Brits
has to be rediscovering grotty seaside caravan parks and holiday camps...

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Senoufou
Date: 28 Feb 20 - 01:23 PM

My poor sister had a cruise booked for early May around the Med. It was to be with one of her daughters, her daughter's friend and her mother.
They'd spent hours choosing/booking trips from the ship to Barcelona and various other interesting places, including in Italy.
Now of course, flights are threatening to cancel, and even the cruise looks as if it won't happen.
She's so disappointed, but in my view the travel firms are right.
Better to stay put until all this is a thing of the past, and travel picks up again. Feel sorry for her though!

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Feb 20 - 12:14 PM

I was in Finance in my twenties (I left for ethical reasons and the firm went bust later) and my wife is a Phd senior health economist for the Federal Government.

America will not shut down like China and Japan. Only China can. Schools will not close before Summer. When more people are outside and not in rooms, the contagion will SLOW>
Cooler heads will prevail. The confusion and uncertainty here is due to leadership. As new rules become apparent the economy will settle. Much of yeterday's reaction was from 'automated' sell off triggers. When humans are back in charge things will improve. Lots of refinancing will happen for large corporations with debt.



Long term this will last over a year but corporations are in good shape. Money has no where else to go but here. The short term will be a challenge
but if you are moderately prepared you should only be inconvienenced. Shortages will only increase demands. If you are wealthy do not not buy the dips. Wait a month.
Travel and leisure will suffer more than food. Take a 20 year postion that seems good to you for your kids but don't risk it all.
   

Now the human toll: It will be spread out as to seem less severe than it may be in reality. Even 1919 fatality rates are doubled in estimations.
Mass hysteria seems like somthing out of your hands but your own confidence makes a differnce. We all know for whom the bell tolls and the sadness of grim times.
In short this is not Armeggedon unless an irrational leader sabotages our recovery - which is not impossible but unlikely.

If anyone Says they know the bottom or that this will disappear, they are liars.


btw the firm that went bust was Bear Stearns (BS) which is funny to me.

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Jack Campin
Date: 28 Feb 20 - 12:08 PM

Nobody this patriotic could ever be a terrorist, surely?...

the Geri Halliwell approach

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Feb 20 - 12:06 PM

Lol

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 28 Feb 20 - 12:02 PM

Tee shirt slogan - "I must rush to the shops and buy up everything now, before all the stupid panic buyers beat me to it...!!!."

Subject: RE: BS: New rules for the coming pandemic
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Feb 20 - 11:48 AM

Jack is right up to a point where bacterial pnumonia sets in after viral infection and is the actual cause of death. At best it helps heal, at worst Amoxicilin buys time. Any wide spectrum AB is worth a shot when indicated.

Actual preppers must feel a sense of great accomplishment, vindication and I told you so's. I have seen many of them over do it. I think sme if them suffer from obcessive compulsive disorder.

FOX is still blaming Dems and vice versa.