BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: The Shambles
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 06:48 PM

Possibly the difference over the last few occasions (and it is a very small one in terms of abilty) is that the European Team is not a national side. Which is its strength. The European flag flies at the event but that is a bit of a joke as no one in Europe really take much notice of it.

The Ryder Cup is now many national teams all playing together against a national side. Every golfer in Europe wants to be in the team and take part in order to unite against the common enemy (in golfing terms only) and to show that their tour is every bit as good as the US golfers think their tour is.

I am not a nationalist in any shape or form - the history of following nationalist causes all over the world shows us that this is not something to be repeated. And although this is a little less harmful when applied to sport - the approach shown by all the participants in the Ryder Cup is something I can support and be excited by.

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: GUEST,IBO
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 06:30 PM

I STILL HATE GOLF

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 05:50 PM

is that a w cup then?

oh my god ...

It's even potentially traumatising in print

... W ...

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: GUEST,ibo
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 05:39 PM

thanks mate,where can i buy a copy of doangivashit?

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 05:33 PM

I'll put out a special notice in the Doangivashit News so we'll all know.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: GUEST,IBO
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 04:01 PM

I HATE GOLF

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: bflat
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 03:58 PM

I just returned to the US, my home, from Ireland and heard much of the chatter about the Ryder Cup from Americans and Europeans while there. I have to say that it was a sweet victory for the Europeans and there was no "trash talking" anywhere as far as I can tell. Everyone seemed to be held in high regard regardless of which team was being spoken about. This is a very difficult and unique format from a normal round of golf in a tournament. The American team is not chosen on the same criteria as the European. Can't explain accurately what that is but in the US it appears to be based on highest earnings. The Europeans use a combination of factors to select a team. That may have something to do with outcome; it has been speculated. All around there was amazing good will. The European spectators simply smiled longer and wider and cheered louder longer. This type of contest seems a model for international goodwill.

Ellen

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 02:29 PM

What was that about the Canucks 'Bear-Kissing'? I've kissed some very interesting bare things in my time..............

If I had a coat, I'd get it............
S:0)

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Sep 06 - 01:25 PM

By the way, that was a joke.

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 04:17 PM

I tried many, many times yesterday to post another comment about Winona Ryder, but my post would NOT go through! This is a blatant example of censorship and dictatorial action at the highest levels of the forum, such as Shambles has alluded to on countless occasions. It's unconscionable! I intend to launch numerous threads about it and go on and on and on about it until something is done. You have been warned.

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 03:55 PM

Can I mention the Revolutionary War?

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 09:30 AM

Mick, The Ones I met in Dublin airport heading home to the states were in great form,hugging and saying goodbye to their new found Irish friends and talking to well wishers, so that should put the rumour they were sore losers to bed.

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Big Mick
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 08:26 AM

Fair point, Divis. In the States, the game crosses all economic and social strata. My home state of Michigan has the highest number of golf courses per capita in the country. There certainly are the Country Club set, but it is available and enjoyed at all levels. And it has always been a very popular spectator sport. Hell, my home AOH Division had a contingent at the Ryder Cup. I am quite sure they anchored a corner of some pub down, and regaled the locals with tales of the golf prowess of their lost cousins across the sea ..... LOL. And sure as hell they sang, poorly I'll wager, The Wild Colonial Boy more times than civilized people ought to have to listen to. (Is it legal to use the word "to" that many times in one sentence?)

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 06:15 AM

Its seems as though the US squad was quite dignified.

http://sport.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1420632006

A dignified loser as well as a gracious champion, no-one summed up Clarke's enormous contribution to the enduring health of the Ryder Cup better than Tiger Woods. "Darren being here was just an inspiration in itself," said the world No 1. "But, on top of that, for him to go out there and play as well as he did was absolutely remarkable. I told him, 'You're a helluva player.' Unfortunately, he went out there and proved it. I'm a big friend of his and was very proud to see him do that."

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 03:35 AM

Just visiting, It's a game I myself can't stand. I flew into Dublin Airport on Sunday as a lot of those involved in it where just flying out. I don't know what the game represents where you live, but in my growing up years it was very upper class. There are two golf courses within two miles of me.

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Rasener
Date: 26 Sep 06 - 12:36 AM

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: leeneia
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 11:35 PM

"I tell you that if the Americans had won, this thread would have had a 1000 or more posts already. he he :-)"

I'm not so sure of that. Mudcatters favorite sports seem to be:

drinking beer
fixing guitars
correcting others' English usage
sneering at bodhrans, spoon, accordions and banjos

Now if you started a thread about which beer to drink while twinking the neck of a guitar at a bluegrass session and while writing that you split an infinitive - THEN we would see 1,000 posts.

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: van lingle
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 07:27 PM

Are you guys blind? Winona is stacked!

Guest ed, there has been some incidences of bad behavior by fans here in the U.S. at previous cups but most of the golfers I'm acquainted with have a lot of respect for the European pros. Nick Faldo is one of my all time favorites.
There ought to be more match play in pro golf. It's a much more interesting format, IMO. vl

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 01:36 PM

You're right, Shambles, the Ryder cup is quite small...but that's not always a bad thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: eddie1
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 12:43 PM

I'm no golf fan – didn't see any of it but caught up with the papers today.
Full marks to Darren Clark for playing his heart out for his wife and team and the same to Tiger Woods for being one of the first to congratulate him, Tiger having lost his father to cancer.
Sportsmanship at its best

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 12:12 PM

all I know is, don't bet on the white guy....

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 09:54 AM

Lads, lads, lads. Take it from a Canuck, the only 'real game' left is bear kissing. The rules are few and the game is simple.

1) Find a bear that is over one year old and weighs more than 400 pounds.

2) Sneak up on it.

3) Kiss the bear on any part of its anatomy, the one condition being that you must return to base with bear hair (called fur) in your teeth.

4) Get away from the bear you just kissed.

5) Accept copious amounts of beer from your admiring fans.

Golf, cricket, soccer, American football--anything but Canadian football pales in comparison.

Signed,

A Canuck

PS Our team started out with fifteen players and there are but four of us left. If anyone is interested in joining, call 555-600-1515. Applications now being accepted.

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 09:40 AM

Strolling Johnny ....... a cricket fan ....... casting aspersions on golf as a boring game ....... you cannot be serious.

Well if he is, he is not alone...

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 09:28 AM

Sorry Ard and Mick - my misplaced sense of humour got the better of me! I did watch it and enjoyed it enormously (including Tiger's Iron-in-th-water!). It's true I'm not normally a golf fan, but I found this match rivetting - maybe it was the fact that they weren't playing just for a huge wad of money and personal glory, but for their team.

I especially enjoyed the po-faces of one or two of the US team when they were getting whupped. The Sky coverage kept showing us one in particular (I forget his name - Furyk or some-such??) who looked as though he'd lost a tenner and found a quid! Bottom lip right out and quivering! Magic! :-)

And how good to see players from several different European nations playing as mates, with real team-spirit. And, of course, The big lump-in-throat moment for Darren Clark - what a guy, and what a hero.

But yes, Mick, unlike its pale cousin, Baseball, Cricket is a great and complicated game, which requires strength, stamina, extreme courage and supreme co-ordination to play, and in which the batsman faces (usually!) far more than just two balls, and actually hits the ball in a chosen direction rather than just a wild swing anywhere. And the players have to learn to catch the ball bare-handed, without that big dopey glove! (Maybe that's why you US guys don't seem to understand it - too complicated?). AND we also get to ACTUALLY PLAY against people from other countries in the Tests, ODS's and World Cup - we don't just pretend it's a 'world series' when no-one but our own country is involved! :-) :-) LOL! You should take time to watch a few games - I guarantee that, if you do it with good heart and an open mind, you'll get hooked! :-)

End of lecture! :-)
S:0)

S:0)

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Big Mick
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 08:42 AM

Sorry Villan. I was in a bit of an crabby mood last night. I apologize.

Strolling Johnny ....... a cricket fan ....... casting aspersions on golf as a boring game ....... you cannot be serious.

I get me cap and wellies .... here lad, hold that door.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: The Shambles
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 05:05 AM

On his website Tiger Woods has advice like how to Control your irons

Like not letting your caddy drop your nine iron - in the water in the middle of the Ryder Cup?

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 04:08 AM

It is highly unlikely Tiger Woods has an Irish caddy.
And of course everyone in agreement that this was the best organised Ryder Cup ever, that is to be expected from one of the worlds wealthiest countries,.

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 03:51 AM

I've been having a lot of trouble sleeping recently. The Ryder Cup was the perfect solution. Switch on and nod off - fantastic!

The only bit that galvanised me to life was when that gormless (presumably Oirish) caddy dropped Toothless-Tiger Woods' 9-iron in the river! Priceless! Ah well Woodsie, don't worry lad, no great loss - just use one of the other dozens of freebies the manufacturers give you.

Oh, and as usual, they all demonstrated that they don't have mirrors in their houses - they should spend a few hours learning dress sense with Trinny and Susannnah.

In other words, it was the same old waste of TV-time, boring over-paid farts playing a stupid boring game. Almost as bad as watching fat boozy bastards playing darts.

Bring on the Cricket, a real game for real men! IMHO! :-)
S:0)

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: ard mhacha
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 02:55 AM

Well done Europe, three in a row, Europe united, well, apart from the the Irish players Harrington and McGinley the US BEST PLAYERS.

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Rasener
Date: 25 Sep 06 - 01:13 AM

Just Joking Big Mick. I didn't even watch it.

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Sep 06 - 07:46 PM

I don't see what business you have drawing attention to Winona's underwear on a public forum, Shambles. Just stop it right now.

Wynona does not appear to me to have very much need of a cup. Except perhaps an egg cup.

The point is that all the participants played some quite breathtaking sport under the most intense pressure - in all truth the difference between the ablities shown by two teams was very small. They all made a difficult game LOOK to be very easy.

In the singles, Stuart Cink hit 7 birdies to totaly blow away Sergio Garcia who played pretty well himself. And both sides hit 'holes in one'. You could see that it hurt to lose - but there was not the same uneasy edge to this as on some previous occasions. I hope that the European side will show the same dignity and respect in defeat when their turn comes. As it surely will. Credit to all.

The margin of victory in points terms - both this time and the last may look large but all this will do is ensure that the next one will be even more closely contested - if that is possible. If it is played in the same sporting spirit - that will be something to look forward to and sport will be the winner.

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Sep 06 - 07:37 PM

So much for the gamne of golf.

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Big Mick
Date: 24 Sep 06 - 06:05 PM

Villan, lay off that crap. I am getting tired of any shot you can take at us. I believe that there will be many gracious comments made by "Americans" before this is out. The US team handled the week with dignity, and the fans will do the same. The Europeans played wonderful golf, the Irish were magnificent hosts, and the golf (especially in the heads up matches) was magnificent. The best team won, isn't that good enough?

If an American made comments such as yours, you would call us arrogant. Look in a mirror, sir.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Rasener
Date: 24 Sep 06 - 05:11 PM

I tell you that if the Americans had won, this thread would have had a 1000 or more posts already. he he :-)
Will George Bush bomb us now ?

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Sep 06 - 04:14 PM

Mate of mine and Manitas had the job of driving the Ryder cup to the airport.... as a golfer he was chuffed to little mintballs....

That's about as close as I get to golf. Unless I find a course that has blackthorn bushes on it.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Sep 06 - 03:58 PM

Latest news.


Given all the above, why can't soccer fans behave the same way?

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: GUEST,wordy
Date: 24 Sep 06 - 03:43 PM

Brilliant three days. It was interesting that the commentators, and one in particular, said it was difficult for the Americans to grasp the team concept, particularly Woods. His support for Darren Clark has been exceptional by the way.
I watch it because it's still played the way sport aught to be played. The crowd behaviour was exemplary. Well done the Irish!

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Sep 06 - 03:27 PM

I don't see what business you have drawing attention to Winona's underwear on a public forum, Shambles. Just stop it right now.

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: GUEST,ed
Date: 24 Sep 06 - 02:52 PM

Mick,

It means a lot that you said that. Most of your compatriates wouldn't have said so much.

Golf doesn't matter a jot, but attitudes do.

Ed

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: Big Mick
Date: 24 Sep 06 - 02:45 PM

Well, at last something we can agree on. I watched it, saw some marvelous golf, and congratulate the Europeans on a spectacular showing. There can be no doubt about the statement made by their play. They were victorious from start to finish. Hail to the Victors.

And how about Darren Clarke? Just six weeks after the death of his wife. He was full of emotion, yet played wonderfully. Even the Americans were pulling for him.

My homeland needs to take a lesson in teamwork from the inspirational play of this European team. Seems like a metaphor for the world diplomatic situation today.

Mick

Subject: RE: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Sep 06 - 02:31 PM

Poor excuse to interrupt a good walk.

Subject: BS: Can I mention The Ryder Cup?
From: The Shambles
Date: 24 Sep 06 - 02:26 PM

Am I the only one who watched this magnificent contest?