BS: Israel & Hamas & gaza strip 2024

Subject: RE: BS: Israel & Hamas & gaza strip 2024
From: Thompson
Date: 25 Oct 24 - 04:48 AM

Israel's war against free speech continues: three journalists covering Israel’s war on Lebanon were killed today in an apparent targeted Israeli strike on their accommodation in Lebanon’s southern Hasbaiyya area.

Subject: RE: BS: Israel & Hamas & gaza strip 2024
From: Thompson
Date: 25 Oct 24 - 05:39 AM

Further: "Local news station Al Jadeed aired footage from the scene — a collection of chalets that had been rented by various media outlets — showing collapsed buildings and cars marked "press" covered in dust and rubble."

Subject: RE: BS: Israel & Hamas & gaza strip 2024
From: robomatic
Date: 26 Oct 24 - 01:55 AM

Last night (24 October 2024) was Simchat Torah. This is one year by the Hebrew calendar from the attack by Iran's proxy terror organization Hamas. People are wondering if the timing is related to the current attacks that are apparently taking place on and in Iran. According to NBC news the US was informed that Iran's nuclear sites and oil production would not be directly attacked. (Proportional response?)
Only a couple days ago there was a story that details had been leaked of Israeli plans against Iran as a response to Iran's massive rocket attack a few weeks ago. It was not clear to me how much of that story was released as opposed to planted. But there are apparently real attacks going on right now.

Subject: RE: BS: Israel & Hamas & gaza strip 2024
From: Thompson
Date: 26 Oct 24 - 05:16 AM

Have to say I see nothing wrong with attacking missile launch bases.

Subject: RE: BS: Israel & Hamas & gaza strip 2024
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Oct 24 - 10:45 AM

Those are the more reasonable ones they should have zeroed in on to begin with.

Subject: RE: BS: Israel & Hamas & gaza strip 2024
From: Jack Campin
Date: 29 Oct 24 - 09:17 AM

America's latest massacre. I tried posting a video (minimally edited, taken directly on the spot) from Reddit to FB and immediately got my account suspended. You might get away with passing on the Guardian's version.

Beit Lahiya, over 90 murdered

Subject: RE: BS: Israel & Hamas & gaza strip 2024
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Oct 24 - 09:52 AM

Israel's latest massacre, Jack. We can argue all day long about whether the US should or shouldn't arm Israel (it was my understanding that the type of weapons sent in the last 6-9 months are different than what has been used against Palestinians, so they can't be used against Palestinians) but no one in the US gave instructions to bomb anywhere. And many of us have hope that once the US election is over Biden will finally dope-slap Netanyahu and compel some compliance with his wishes that they form a cease fire.

Netanyahu has made a calculation about the US election - if Trump is elected, nothing bad happens to him. If he misbehaves and kills Palestinians he satisfies his hard right coalition partners and stays out of jail. Once it ends and his government is dissolved he is bound to end up with his trials completed and a prison sentence, so why not keep the war going?

Subject: RE: BS: Israel & Hamas & gaza strip 2024
From: Jack Campin
Date: 29 Oct 24 - 10:27 AM

The one making the gamble is the US. They want Palestine's oil and gas, and the land to build the Ben-Gurion canal so they can bypass Egypt. They are betting that their rabid rottweiler garrison state can last long enough to achieve that. Netanyahu, Bennett, Smotrich and the gang are just footsoldiers - the American petrocracy will make sure that Harris or Trump will carry on taking orders no matter who the voters think they've chosen.

Hassan Nasrallah had it right. Getting angry at Israel is just silly. America is the enemy of humanity.

Subject: RE: BS: Israel & Hamas & gaza strip 2024
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Oct 24 - 10:53 AM

No Jack. Every tribe had its day and its dark night.
Who suffers most is not the only determination of the most righteous.
In 1945 the Germans may have suffered the most. Everyone suffers in war.

I would agree with Stilly's last post.

Subject: RE: BS: Israel & Hamas & gaza strip 2024
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Oct 24 - 11:07 AM

Palestine has oil and gas? Had to look that up.

All of this, of course, is aspirational. Right now, it’s downright impossible. Though the U.S. is reportedly pushing Israel to allow Palestinians to profit and build an independent energy system from offshore gas post-war, under Israeli occupation, Palestinians cannot drill for oil and gas. Many communities are not allowed to build out solar energy, either. Israel, on the other hand, hasn’t wasted time in claiming these dirty resources for itself. On October 29, its government approved 12 licenses for six companies to look for more gas fields offshore.

All the more reason for Netanyahu to hope Trump is elected, because the Democrats are trying to enact cleaner energy policies. Trump couldn't care less, as is shown with the land he removed from federal protections when he was in office before.

So if you want to blame the war on someone, blame it on Trump, a pawn for so many bad actors, not the US writ large.

Subject: RE: BS: Israel & Hamas & gaza strip 2024
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 29 Oct 24 - 01:14 PM

https://soundcloud.com/denise_whittle/eyeless-in-gaza-song

Subject: RE: BS: Israel & Hamas & gaza strip 2024
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Oct 24 - 02:05 PM

Supurb Big Al.

May your underground stardom see the light, I know you do.
Your chords embody the spirit of your words.
I foresee an album of surprises in your future.

Subject: RE: BS: Israel & Hamas & gaza strip 2024
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 29 Oct 24 - 02:19 PM

Thank you Donuel.

Subject: RE: BS: Israel & Hamas & gaza strip 2024
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Oct 24 - 02:55 PM

Good song. Thanks.

Subject: RE: BS: Israel & Hamas & gaza strip 2024
From: Thompson
Date: 29 Oct 24 - 07:40 PM

Five more journalists killed, and a block of flats levelled with nearly 100 slaughtered.

Subject: RE: BS: Israel & Hamas & gaza strip 2024
From: Thompson
Date: 30 Oct 24 - 04:39 PM

America is now in the news for trying to broker "a temporary ceasefire" in Lebanon and Gaza. Why temporary? Does the US consider that it'd be a good thing for the killing of children and the destruction of towns (spreading asbestos which of course can blow inland to Israel too, causing hideous deaths by asbestosis) to continue after a bit of a breather?

Subject: RE: BS: Israel & Hamas & gaza strip 2024
From: Thompson
Date: 31 Oct 24 - 05:55 AM

A reporter.