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BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??

GUEST,TIA 16 Apr 10 - 02:38 AM
GUEST,Guest from Sanity 16 Apr 10 - 02:57 AM
GUEST,beardedbruce 16 Apr 10 - 08:05 AM
Bobert 16 Apr 10 - 08:21 AM
beardedbruce 16 Apr 10 - 08:26 AM
Greg F. 16 Apr 10 - 08:52 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 02:38 AM

"They are just pissed off {white} taxpayers who don't want to be gouged beyond control, to pay for the {black} people who have a disproportionate sense of entitlement!

Whether you agree with {the whites} or not, they have the right to bitch about {the blacks}...Jeez, look at all the bitching that goes on here!..You bitch, they bitch"

Not sayin' that GfS is espousing this (really), but this is what it's truly about.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 02:57 AM

TIA, I was listening to the radio, today, and they wanted people to call in who happen to go down to a rally, and just report in, on what they saw. the participants we of a wide spectrum, and quite a bit of diversity. I don't think this is a black/white issue.. Though the liberal left like to portray it as anything, that it is not.

recent polls find the majority of people AGREE more on the policies the baggers say they stand for, than Obama. The liberal left is in the minority,(on the policy issue)..and the baggers don't like the way this latest health care bill was rammed through, and feel that the federal government is passing stuff, against the will of the majority og people.

That's the stuff I hear, and you know what??...some of that is quite true.....

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 08:05 AM

Greg F,

I posted a FACT of something happening- more than YOU have with your accusations against Tea Party members. I left the CONCLUSION as to WHO did it to be determined by investigation. Did the post I made say anything about the political side of the attacker????



I notice YOU had no problem stating that "Tea Party Members" did specific acts. Where is the evidence they were members? Hell, where is the evidence other than the statments of those out to smear them that it even happened?

Another example of double standards- since you do not apply that standard to what YOU have posted, to ask me to apply it to mine is bigotry, bias, and prejudice.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 08:21 AM

Call in polls are even more bogus than the ones that are designed to elicit a specfic result...

I'll repeat: Let the Tea Party run a candidate...

I mean, it's easy to say moronish things such as "I want my country back" and "I want my freedom"... What in the hell do either of those statement actually mean???

Well, I'll tell ya' what they mean... Absolutely nothing... Those aren't policy posotions... They are pep rally stuff... Might of fact, with all the press that these Tea Party people have gotten I don't recall one single policy position that these folks have put forward??? Not one... Any of you righties here know of any???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 08:26 AM

"The Tea Party: A Heartfelt Hymn of American Redemption
by Rep. Thaddeus G. McCotter (R-MI)

Defending the Tea Party to its opponents is like explaining Bob Dylan to his critics: their ears don't hear what your heart understands.

For a year now, Tea Partiers have peaceably assembled and petitioned government for the redress of grievances; and, for a year now, the political class has feared, reviled and defied them.

In sum, Washington power-brokers and special interests treat the Tea Party movement as a political bacillus to be quarantined until high priced pollsters, pundits and consultants clad in Gucci lab coats can find a vaccine. In truth, the Tea Party movement is a soulful, spontaneous call for the restoration of citizens' God-given rights and a revitalization of our representative institutions so that "We the People" can preserve our cherished way of life. Thus, a Tea Party protest is a hymn of American redemption, one which to truly be heard must be felt in one's heart.

Indeed, amid the folksy din of organic theatrics, at its principled core the Tea Parties constitutes an earnest, spontaneous, decentralized political movement arising from diverse grassroots centers of gravity. Bonded by a shared faith in their freedom and American Exceptionalism, the Tea Party's eclectic mix of Republicans, Independents, Libertarians and Democrats is deeply concerned about the challenges confronting this great nation we've inherited and must bequeath to our children. Consequently, as patriots rather than materialists, Tea Partiers measure their loss of sovereignty by the growth of big government's insane, unsustainable spending, which edges us further toward fiscal implosion and exacerbates the disorder within our troubled republic.

Unlike the political class whose power, privilege and wealth increases commensurately with the expansion of the state, Tea Partiers know their own liberty, sovereignty, security, prosperity and self-evident truths are eroded by big government. Therefore, Tea Partiers realize the biggest special interest is big government, and it is dismissive and disdainful of their aspirations for responsive democracy and limited government.

Shut out and shunned, to be heard the Tea Partiers have guilelessly taken to the public square and, yes, foppishly adopted the themes and symbols of our nation's Founding generation (who themselves always considered the American Revolution a restoration of their traditional rights that had been usurped by an arbitrary and capricious king). Of course, the Tea Partiers' appearance, ingenuousness and patriotism render them ready fodder for elitists' snooty slurs and worse.

Still, Tea Partiers persevere in their entrepreneurial idealism to engage the government created to ensure – not infringe – their freedom. Braced by their belief in America's promise, possibilities and, above all, her people, the undaunted Tea Partiers' continue to utter the politically incorrect heresy that true human progress is not measured by the enlargement of bureaucracy and big government; it is measured in the expansion of liberty and self-government. And, though never pitch perfect, they voice the broader public's desire to stanch big government's march to omnipotence, not through a radical revolution, but through the orderly restoration of our God-given rights; the revitalization of our representative institutions; and, thereby, the preservation of our cherished way of life for future generations of free Americans.

So ignore the political class' cat-calls from the cheap seats and rock on, Tea Partiers. Let the Liberty Bell chime in time with your off-beat songs of freedom. One day, your servant government will hear and heed you; and our free republic will applaud and appreciate your heartfelt hymn of American redemption."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Greg F.
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 08:52 AM

...I notice YOU had no problem stating that "Tea Party Members" did specific acts...

Beardie, pull your head out of your ass. One more time.

You're making things up out of whole cloth- like your BuShite buddies & your pet hate-speech radio shock-jocks.

If you'd bother to read the postings, you'd find that nowhere in this thread did I accuse the TeaBaggers of anything whatsoever!

As usual, bullshit from a serial bullshitter.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 08:59 AM

Greg F.

I will apologize.

"If you'd bother to read the postings, you'd find that nowhere in this thread did I accuse the TeaBaggers of anything whatsoever!

IN THIS THREAD you have not accused Tea Party members of anything.

Your use of Teabaggers, which I have previously stated as offensive ( in several threads) let me think that some posts here were yours, and they were not.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 09:10 AM

"Whether you agree with {the whites} or not, they have the right to bitch about {the blacks}"

Now Tia is projecting her bigotry on others.

Protesters of a certain race are to be treated differently than proteseter of another race.

The things they say are to be intertereted in dirrerent ways.

The same standard of judgment does not apply to people of two different races.

And Bobert gives his standard boilerplate rant against polls and stats.

The one he locks of in a drawer somewhere when he wants to use stats or polls as proof of something himself.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: beardedbruce
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 09:26 AM

Tea Party Not Filled with Nuts
Chris Core, Commentator

http://www.wtopnews.com/?sid=1395962&nid=524


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 09:32 AM

"I'll repeat: [over and over and over...] Let the Tea Party run a candidate."

Where is Code Pink's candidate?

Where is Communist Party's candidate?

The Party in TEA Party refers to the Boston Tea Party which did not have a candidate either.

And I haven't heard any tea partiers use incendiary hateful language like "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun".


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 11:12 AM

My post about Tea Party people being better educated than the general public seems to have disappeared.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 03:34 PM

I notice that some lefties on here like to find a similarity to the 'baggers' and Timothy McVeigh....ummm pardon me??..I would liken McVeigh more to Bill Ayers (Obama's buddy)...both were planning to blow up Federal buildings, or did. I think there is a bit of a double standard going on, that as Bruce so eloquently posted, "Defending the Tea Party to its opponents is like explaining Bob Dylan to his critics: their ears don't hear what your heart understands."

Now back to the 'roots' of things, their ears don't hear what your heart understands ........

AND they still DON'T GET IT!

gFs


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 03:51 PM

"Now Tia is projecting her bigotry on others."

There is more funny in that line than you can possibly imagine.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Stringsinger
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 03:51 PM

No, BB, that's not factual. "Baby Killing" is propagandizing for your position by introducing an inflammatory title. "Pro-life" or "Anti-Choice" doesn't carry the obvious bias that you suggest. "Pro-Live Republicans" or "Anti-Choice Republicans" state a position without
using language to incite violence. Yes, "Baby Killing" does incite violence as recent
events by Hill and his ilk suggest.

That is terrorism.

There are factions of the "Tea Party" movement that support militias and intimidating gun-toters who frequent political rallies. These are terrorists by the classic definition, those
who intimidate for political means.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Stringsinger
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 04:07 PM

Bill Ayers stated purpose was not to hurt people. Just buildings.
Tim McVeigh didn't care if he did kill people.

The issue is whether the Tea Party is a terrorist organization. I don't think the Tea Party is that cohesive. It doesn't really have a stated purpose but is a reactionary organization
which doesn't know how to channel their anger toward any constructive end.

There is a faction in the Tea Party that uses violent language and metaphors to inflame
their crowd. Obama never did this. You didn't see anyone packing heat at an Obama rally unless they wanted to do the unthinkable.

Palin is "locked and loaded" and ready to inflame.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 06:43 PM

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T - PM
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 03:10 PM

""When a member of one organization bites off the finger of a member of another organization, it should be obvious which organization is more terrorist like?

That is the purpose. Which is the terrorist organization? Which is the violent organization?""


Well, to me there is another question to be answered first.

A verbal exchange of views took place, and then one party escalated the situation into physical violence.

Was that party the one you describe as a terrorist?........NO!.......See below.

""Rice told investigators he felt threatened by the man and punched him in the nose, A fight ensued, during which part of Rice's finger was bitten off,""

""Rice said in a phone interview Thursday. "I felt like I had no choice other than to defend myself.""

Maybe the man he punched felt even more threatened and also felt that he had no choice but to defend himself.

You make a very poor case for calling the man who first offered violence a victim, and the man he assaulted a terrorist.

I think you might n4eed to re-examine your argument.

Don T.

I have moved the above up because Sawzaw, true to form, upon realising that he had no credible answer, simply affected not to notice it.

Your omments SoreJaw?

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 06:45 PM

"""I'll repeat: [over and over and over...] Let the Tea Party run a candidate."

Where is Code Pink's candidate?
""

Probably still got his nose in plaster.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 06:50 PM

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T - PM
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 03:10 PM

""When a member of one organization bites off the finger of a member of another organization, it should be obvious which organization is more terrorist like?

That is the purpose. Which is the terrorist organization? Which is the violent organization?
""    Sawzaw


Well, to me there is another question to be answered first.

A verbal exchange of views took place, and then one party escalated the situation into physical violence.

Was that party the one you describe as a terrorist?........NO!.......See below.

""Rice told investigators he felt threatened by the man and punched him in the nose, A fight ensued, during which part of Rice's finger was bitten off,""

""Rice said in a phone interview Thursday. "I felt like I had no choice other than to defend myself.""

Maybe the man he punched felt even more threatened and also felt that he had no choice but to defend himself.

You make a very poor case for calling the man who first offered violence a victim, and the man he assaulted a terrorist.

I think you might need to re-examine your argument.

Don T.

I have moved the above up because Sawzaw, true to form, upon realising that he had no credible answer, simply affected not to notice it.

Your comments SoreJaw?

Don T.

PS perhaps a clone would oblige and get rid of the flawed version above. Thank you.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 07:54 PM

The problem isn't as much whether or not the Tea Party is engaging in terrorism as much as they are giving comfort to the Tim McVeigh's within our society... But equally troubling is that the government is letting them get away with stuff that, frankly, the anti-war demonstrators during the mad-dash-to-Iraq would have been busted for...

I am still amazed that a guy could show up at a rally where the president was going to speek with a gun strapped to his leg and a sign making references to killing folks... I mean, had I done that outside a Bush rally, I would more than likely been shot dead... Yet this guy becomes a hero???

It's this kinda stuff that sends a clear message to the Tim McVeigh's of the world that as long as yer on the side of the righties that anything goes and even if you do get caught, in lots of folks eyes you will always be a hero... You know, kinda like suicide bombers...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 08:34 PM

Bobert: You know, kinda like suicide bombers...

Or people who kill abortion providers.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Apr 10 - 08:49 PM

Exactly, mouse... There are alot of very extreme righties out there who get quite a bit of "comfort" (think treason here) from the Tea Party, Rush Limbaugh and FOX...

So yeah, they feel, just like the al qeada suicide bomber, that they are doing this because it's the "right" thing to do... I find it ingredulous that people will kill doctors for religious reasons??? Exactly what religion preaches killing for any reason???

b~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 17 Apr 10 - 02:36 AM

Jeez!..It sounds like the libs are freaking. Not because of the Tea Party, who they fear, but rather the American public who has caught on, in increasing numbers that their days are numbered.
Also, just watched a Democratic pollster predict them losing the House and Senate in November...BIG TIME!....unless they change their spending spree, and get off their 'policies of nonsense'.

Hey, don't blame me..I already knew they were crackpots, and now the American public in a wide margin wants them OUT!

Too bad the Republicans aren't much better!

Think peace!

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Apr 10 - 08:28 AM

Define, "libs", GfS...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 17 Apr 10 - 08:31 AM

STILL NO RESPONSE FROM SOREJAW, I SEE!

Funny how he fades into the background when called to account for his nonsense.

And of course Gone from Sanity appears, spouting the usual crap.

So predictable you might think they were the same person.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 17 Apr 10 - 06:44 PM

Thee TEa Party is the embodiment of who or what is freaking.   If they could articulate clear arguments and define policy preferences they would be a potential force; as it is they seem to spout meaningless generalities, much in the way GoS does when she's having a bad karma day.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 17 Apr 10 - 07:43 PM

Bingo, Amos... They are, in essence, a party (?) with no real thoughful positions...

They don't like taxes but they offer no alternative...

They want their freedom but don't say what freedoms that have been taken away from them...

They want their country back... Wait just a friggin' minute... So do I but I want if back from the righties...

I mean, everything they say is conflicted... They are like a two-year old having a temper tantrum... It's downright embarrassing knowing the rest of the world is seeing just how dumbed down our country has become... I mean, embarrassing...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 18 Apr 10 - 01:30 AM

"Your comments SoreJaw?"

Comments about what? For lack of finding anything to comment on, I would have to say it is filled with bitterness and rage about something but I don't know what.

You need to focus and be specific.

Try some of that Moonshine and pot that helps Bobert keep it together, helps him keep his anger under control, but not his ego.

That would take one of those dilithium crystal powered deflector shields like they have on the U.S.S. Enterprise that stops those photon torpedoes that the ugly ass Klingons fire when they uncloak their Bird of Prey.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 01:06 AM

Well Well Well

Seems like the majority of Americans agree with the tea party.

Get out your standard rant on polls Bobert.

...On major issues, 48% of voters say that the average Tea Party member is closer to their views than President Barack Obama...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 01:14 AM

48% is not a majority. Math. It's not just for scientists anymore.

Further it's just "voters" -- which is about 50% of the population. So less than 25% of the population wants a less activist government. Probably the same people who don't realize that Medicare is a government-run program.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 07:56 AM

Well, the demon in the wording in that poll is "activist"... If you want to get the poll numbers to reflect yer own bias then you load the questions up words that have been domonized and you'll get exactly what you want... That's the problem with polls... My college Stats professor spent an entire hour expalining how that works... Very tricky... Well, not really tricky at all...

BTW, I was watching the Timothy McVeigh tapes on MSNBC last night and at one point it mentioned the phrase that I have made reference to that was on the sign that the guy with the rifle strapped to his leg at an Obama speech... I hadn't been able to pull it up in my rememberator but it was "The Tree of Liberty" quote (think it was by Jefferson but I'll Google it up when I have time tonight) that suggests using violence... Seems that is the common thread that the extremist use to justify their hatreds...

BTW, has Obama come to any of ya'll rightie's door demanding you give him all yer guns???

Didn't think so...

BTW, Part 2, Tim McVeigh was also convinced that the government was going to take away yer guns...

Hmmmmmmmmm???

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 12:33 PM

44% hold the opposite view and believe the president's views are closer to their own.

Is 44% less that 48%??


"the guy with the rifle strapped to his leg at an Obama speech"

Is 1t even possible to strap a rifle to your leg? Show me how it is done.

When Bobert gets one of these "facts" of his in his teeth he's like a snappin' turtle. You can cut off the turtle's head and he still won't let go.

Tell me Bobert, did he break any laws? Was he drinking moonshine and smokin pot?

Secret Service: armed demonstrators in open-carry states such as Arizona and New Hampshire have little impact.

"In both cases, the subject was not entering our site or otherwise attempting to," said Ed Donovan, a secret service spokesman. "They were in a designated public viewing area. The main thing to know is that they would not have been allowed inside with a weapon."


"Paul Helmke, the president of a gun control group, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said the presence of armed protesters near the president was a recipe for trouble."

HMMMMMMM wasn't Brady shot by some left wingnut that was aimin' for Reagan? The gang that couldn't shoot straight?

The scary protester's weapon was not concealed and legal.

Hinckley's weapon was concealed and illegal.

You gotta watch those lefties, armed and dangerous.

Maybe even drunk on 'shine and high on pot cause they don't believe in the law.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 12:58 PM

Sawz: 44% hold the opposite view and believe the president's views are closer to their own.

Is 44% less that 48%??


Look up "majority". It means more than 50%. You were wrong. Get over it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 01:11 PM

What planet are you from, Sawz??? Did you really no see the photograph??? It was all over the news... Oh, that's right... You don't watch the news... You watch FOX... Maybe someone else, like Rap, if he's around, can tell ya' what kinda rifle it was... It ceratinly wasn't a pistol... It was some kinda shortened rifle...

No, Reagan was merely shot by "some kind of nut" that nothing to do with his political leanings but some obsessive compulsive thing (you know about them) for Jodie Foster...

As for lefties being armed and dangerous??? Not, in general, these days... Unlike the righties who are getting away with a lot of stuff that got lefties killed or arrested in the 60's the lefties have learned that the government will kick yer ass if you promote any of the usual crap that the right routinely gets away with... We definately have a dual standard here... The ignorant people get a pass and the intellegent ones get a butt whup...

That's why the guy with the gun wasn't arrested... Had I gone to a Bush rally with heat and a sign that suggested that that I might use it you can bet that the "athorities" would have come up with some law to have me arrested... You can take that to the bank...

But, no. the Tea Partiers will party until their is another Oklahoma City bombing and then sanity will prevail... Seems we never learn... There are over 800 hate groups in this country and here we are givin' a pass to folks who are in the streets acting quite hostile...

Tell ya'll what... If you support the Tea Party then when the next bombing takes place that blood will be on yer hands... Not mine...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 01:28 PM

""Comments about what? For lack of finding anything to comment on, I would have to say it is filled with bitterness and rage about something but I don't know what.

You need to focus and be specific.   Posted by Sawzaw
""

Specifically my thick friend, for the third time of asking, your comments on my response to your question:-

""When a member of one organization bites off the finger of a member of another organization, it should be obvious which organization is more terrorist like?

That is the purpose. Which is the terrorist organization? Which is the violent organization?    Posted by Sawzaw
""

My response, which you have so far avoided answering, was as follows:-


""Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T - PM
Date: 15 Apr 10 - 03:10 PM

Well, to me there is another question to be answered first.

A verbal exchange of views took place, and then one party escalated the situation into physical violence.

Was that party the one you describe as a terrorist?........NO!.......See below.

""Rice told investigators he felt threatened by the man and punched him in the nose, A fight ensued, during which part of Rice's finger was bitten off,""

""Rice said in a phone interview Thursday. "I felt like I had no choice other than to defend myself.""

Maybe the man he punched felt even more threatened and also felt that he had no choice but to defend himself.

You make a very poor case for calling the man who first offered violence a victim, and the man he assaulted a terrorist.

I think you might need to re-examine your argument.

Don T.
""

Comments on that?......Who started the physical violence? Put up, or shut up about


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 01:30 PM

OOPS should finish shut up about the other side. Rice convicts himself with those comments.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 01:57 PM

Lemme see if 48 is more than 44 that means to me that more people side with the Tea party than don't.

If not then the 44% would be the majority.

So which is the majority?

If there is no majority, I apologize for making a mistake and say that more Americans side with the tea party than they do with Obama.

The guy that threw the punch deserved to have his finger bitten off and called an idiot because he said he did not support a public health insurer option.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 02:14 PM

There is no majority. 48%, if the largest chunk, is called a plurality. Is English your first language?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 02:24 PM

I made a mistake, I apologize.

A plurality of Americans side with the tea party.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 02:32 PM

Still not true. A plurality of voters agree with the tea party, according to the poll. This still leaves open the question of whether the poll was asking fair and non-leading questions, how many of the tea party's planks* were taken into consideration, etc.

*Oh wait. They don't have planks. Just screaming points.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 02:35 PM

Then there's sample selection....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 02:47 PM

I apologize again. I made another mistake.

A plurality of voters agree with the tea party, according to the poll.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 04:09 PM

Which Tea Party?

The Palin Party which wants God's values to be enforced with guns and target domestic enemies called Democrats ?

Or the Ron Paul Party that wants the Goverment out of the family value and the Fed monetary business and just leave people alone ?

Or Mr. T's Tea Party? Pity the Foo


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 20 Apr 10 - 05:12 PM

""The guy that threw the punch deserved to have his finger bitten off and called an idiot because he said he did not support a public health insurer option.""

No idiot, the guy that threw the first punch deserved what he got because he threw the first punch.

He was the aggressor, and if anyone was a terrorist it was him.

If somebody is shouting at you, that doesn't confer upon you the right to punch his lights out. If you choose to do so you are committing a criminal act of assault, and he is entitled to defend himself from your attack.

So, once again, who is the terrorist (your word), and who the victim here.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 12:41 PM

Thank you for calling me an idiot.

He was leaving when a man who seemed "deranged" approached and called him an "idiot,"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 12:59 PM

Bobert: "camp outside where a black president is about to speak"

Why are you now claiming that he was camped outside? Did he have any camping gear?

No. You purposefully ad on things that you dream up to ad more stink to your stink bomb.

Just something else that you can play your cute games with when someone asks you for the source of your information.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 03:38 PM

""He was leaving when a man who seemed "deranged" approached and called him an "idiot,"

"Deranged" is only his interpretation of the man's condition (I'm assuming he has no psychiatric qualifications), and is merely his opinion.

Even were the man "deranged", he offered only verbal abuse until attacked by Rice, and then defended himself.

The "terrorist" (wrong word, but you wouldn't know any better) was the man who threw the first punch.

A criminal act of assault, which renders the victim justified in fighting in defence of his safety.

Take it to any court and watch it get thrown out.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 05:11 PM

Those of you who believe the Teabaggers are harmless and just expressing their 1st amendment rights should try "The Imagine Game".


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 05:15 PM

Well that didn't work, sorry. Here's the link.

http://ephphatha-poetry.blogspot.com/2010/04/imagine-if-tea-party-was-black-tim-wise.html


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 08:46 PM

"Camped out" must be a southern term, Sawz... Nothin' cute about it... That's the way folks talk down here... I mean, people camp out to get tickets for events, to get into a Walmart sale, lots of stuff... No camping gear... Geeze... I thought that folks used that term all over... Guess not... Not meant to mislead... Thought is was a common phrase... Guess not???

Doesn't change much... The guy had the "Tree of Libert sign" and a gun (not a pistol) straped to his leg where Obama was getting ready to speak... Do you deny this???

If so then you are terribly uniformed... The pics were all over the place...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 12:54 PM

"""Camped out" must be a southern term, Sawz... Nothin' cute about it... That's the way folks talk down here... I mean, people camp out to get tickets for events, to get into a Walmart sale, lots of stuff... No camping gear... Geeze... I thought that folks used that term all over""

And you were right mate. They do!

Don't mind Sawz, he has these little tricks he uses when he can't think of a sensible response, like claiming to ignore me "because I'm always bitching" (translation:- I don't agree with his latest petulant rant), or nit-picking over grammar or language (as he just did with you).

It's jest a Dumbshit thang!

LOL
Don T.


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