BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 02:42 AM

Don: "Because it's totally irrelevant to the discussion. And I'm sorry to say, the rest of your post is incoherent."

Horse shit! You are avoiding the real issue!

Donuel: "It is a corporate paradise in Tea Party heaven.
$2 or less an hour jobs right here in the good ol US of A.
That is a savings compared to shipping from China."

Hmm Democratic heaven..at least the unemployment went down!

"In Tea Party HEaven Sates Rights would rule and the only Federal Government is the Dept of Defense, which argualby is a safety program but will be tolerated to satisfy arms dealers."

Isn't that what the Democrats want??

"In Tea Party Heaven, The States would control education and the roads. Checkpoints would be built to keep out outside agitators.
They would make a profit by confiscating forbidden items such as food clothing and large quantites of cash."

Federal funding for an ever expanding government PLUS more government workers....Democrat bliss!

"In Tea Party Heaven you birth certificate might not be accepted if you try to enter Kansas, especailly if you were born in NYC."

"Oh Toto, were not in Kansas anymore," That was a dumb one anyway, Donuel! Who wants to go to Kansas, anyway?

"In Tea Party heaven you are not your brother's keeper. If someone keeps over in front of you it is their responsibility to pull themselves up by their own boot straps. If it happens to be you, Jesus will save you."

No, you'd rather have the state come in and help you, after all, you are 'entitled'!

"In Tea Party Heaven you could elect your own President, since some States are composed of people who are not real Americans."

Obama??? I thought he was a Democrat!

"In Tea Party Heaven if your State has a nuclear weapon facility you will have authority over its use, expecially if you have a general in the DOD from your own State."

In a Democratic state, the State is everywhere doing everything..including telling you what to think...as evident by this post..which has your head turned around..like Don's. He needs to see what THIS administration has done that is IDENTICAL to pre-WWII Germany.....but he has 'redefined' the obvious, just to fit into his squawking points..fed to him by 'Baghdad Bobert'

"In Tea Party Heaven, everyone will get what they deserve by the fruits of their own labor, slave labor, wage slavery or trafficking in illegals."

What illegals??? I thought the Democrats, like Republicans, like bought out globalists don't recognize borders.....except one corporation to another....with the World bank and monetary fund globalists as the 'new' Federal Central government!!!

......and fuck the Tea party TOO!

They come, and they go.....but great music, such as Beethoven, goes on..and on, 'Dingle-berry Don'!

Why aren't you doing great music, instead of this political carousel ride?..going round and around!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 03:42 AM

..but then, maybe I'm dealing with this..on Mudcat...

..and this...judging from some of the posts, as of recent....

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 09:00 AM

IF a group of domestic terrorists attacked the US financially and cost the US 7 trillion dollars of damage in higher interest and default penalties, with no infrastructure or jobs to show for the money, it would be an act of treason by enemies of the uS.

The Tea party caucus in the house are perilously close to commiting such an attack by voting to not pay our debt.

If a terrorist attack the US this way out of ignorance or malice, the damage is done and a crime has been commited.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 11:03 AM

I quite agree, Donuel....

These people represent about 15% (20% tops) yet have this dictatorial attitude that they have 100% backing of the American people... In mental health this would fall squarely in the schizophrenic "illusions of grandeur" category...

Yes, they are terrorist on many levels but trying to kill off the American economy is exactly what Osama bib Laden & Co. have always held as the #1 goal...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 11:14 AM

Tea party enthusiasm:

Hey, we may not have majority power but we have power to stop delay or ignor anything in the Federal Government, this thing is fuckin golden. We are not going to let this thing go for free. We are gonna make history doing the things we promised to do...

which is stop, delay or ignor the business of the Federal Gov.

We vow to not believe anything we are told in Washington, We pledge to obey every pledge we are given by Norquist and people of faith no matter what. Our pledges supercede the CONstitutin of the USA.


Then were gonna blame it all on the liar do nothing President and get a white man back in the White House, after we sanitize it, ha ha ha! And if that doesn't work we can shoot em. HAHAHAHA~

Amen

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 01:37 PM

I'm not avoiding ANYTHING, GfS.

What, to you, is the "real issue?" Beethoven or the Tea Party?

Like I said, incoherent.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 02:50 PM

GfS, the stuff on YouTube that you linked to is exactly what I'm complaining about—among other things. INCLUDING your abysmal lack of knowledge of political philosophies and political systems.

Thomas Jefferson is credited with saying "an educated and informed electorate is essential to the preservation of Democracy," or words to that effect. There are many variations on this statement because he spoke on this theme many times.

Although it's interesting to note that (despite being able to cite Jefferson's personal letters and texts of speeches), there are a number of Right-Wing blogs and web sites that claim Jefferson never said any of this. It sounds like, by denying this, they are FOR being ignorant and ill-informed (which may explain Fox News), and they go on to claim that all he talked about was to keep business free from government regulation (actually, an excerpt from speeches by Ronald Reagan) and to preserve the people's "right to bear arms," (right out of the NRA brochure). In an effort to try to support their aims, the Right-Wing has to rewrite one helluva lot of history.

YOU may be a one-trick pony, GfS, but others of us can make music AND keep ourselves politically informed and aware, AND be politically active and engaged—all at the same time.

Go read a book. Several books. I would suggest you begin with First Democracy:   The Challenge of an Ancient Idea, by Paul Woodruff. Read the WHOLE THING. It will prepare you for Woodruff's final chapter, "Are Americans Ready for Democracy?'

Fer Chissake, EDUCATE youself before you start popping off and you might not come off sounding so much like a twit!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,999
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 03:17 PM

"Membership and demographics

Several polls have been conducted on the demographics of the movement. Though the various polls sometimes turn up slightly different results, they tend to show that Tea Party supporters are mainly white and slightly more likely to be male, married, older than 45, more conservative than the general population, and likely to be more wealthy and have more education.[68][69][70][71][72]

One Gallup poll found that other than gender, income and politics, self-described Tea Party members were demographically similar to the population as a whole.[73]

When surveying supporters or participants of the Tea Party movement, polls have shown that they are to a very great extent more likely to be registered Republican, have a favorable opinion of the Republican Party and an unfavorable opinion of the Democratic Party.[72][74][75] The Bloomberg National Poll of adults 18 and over showed that 40% of Tea Party supporters are 55 or older, compared with 32% of all poll respondents; 79% are white, 61% are men and 44% identify as "born-again" Christians,[76] compared with 75%,[77] 48.5%,[78] and 34%[79] for the general population, respectively."

Wikipedia

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 04:44 PM

What a bunch of desperate 'blah-blah' double talk!!! Look, I'm not 'defending' the Tea Party..frankly, they are a re-active backlash, to the 'ruling class' corrupted, WASTEFUL, lying, spending spree of the last few administrations, run by the international mega-corps, and bankers who have bought off our politicians. ANY nitwit can see that!..its just that both sides of this circus keep the focus, OFF the real problem, and onto the partisan 'differences'...that THEY create in your minds!.......in 2006, when voting on raising the debt ceiling, Obama, Reid, Shumer, Clinton, Pelosi, Durbin...and ALL of the Democratic house, voted NOT to raise the ceiling...now they are all campaigning to raise it....sounds a little fishy to me! On the other hand, the Republicans were all voting FOR raising it. Here comes the 'Tea Party', and an overwhelming Conservative landslide, in the last election, as a mandate to control spending and NOT raise taxes, and once again, the 'ruling class' of career politicians, on both sides, turn a deaf ear to the will of the people, and are now engaged in this phony rhetoric, of trying to figure out, how to tell Americans, politely, how to bend over, and take it in the rear, as if we have NO other choices, than the ones they bullshit us, are the only ones!!

The absolute utter nonsense crap some of you are spouting about the Tea Party, is the exact same crap the 'far right' was using against the Bill Clinton regime..in which firearms sales went through the roof!.....almost word for word!!!

So now, through emotional manipulations, through the press, Americans are all looking across at each other thinking that everybody 'else' is their mortal enemies! This is absolute rubbish!..Meanwhile, the REAL villains must be laughing up their sleeves, all the way to corporate headquarters, of their favorite bank they own, confident that a LOT of very stupid people out there, have NO CLUE, as to how to address the REAL problem: THEM!...and instead, all we get is a bunch of indoctrinated blowhards trying to sound profoundly wise..and intellectually astute, in the garbage they've thrown at you to pontificate about!!!!

In the nineties, it was the 'liberal' Democrats who were the 'terrorists'..in the 2000's, it was the Republicans, now its the Tea Partiers.....jeez, get a fucking clue!!...Meanwhile, we are, "Waist Deep in the Big Muddy and the Big Fool Says to Push On"....and you think/thought they're talkin' about someone else!!!!...I cannot bring myself around to totally believe that people are so fucking stupid, as not to clock this!!

Being as the biggest part of the deficit is the interest on the 'loans', why not get the people who manipulate the loans and interest on them to 'make the sacrifice'????....It's all just pre-fab, greed, corruption, and power plays...and NOT for OUR best interests! Bush, Clinton, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Biden, Romney, Frank, Dodd, Mitchell and MORE are just their shills!!..Isn't that patently obvious to you by now?? ...or are you going to claim a learning disability, under the 'Stupidity Act'???

And I thought that music is said to stimulate more neurons in the brain than ANY other activity on the planet.......maybe some of you should try learning a fourth chord!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 04:52 PM

Here, even kids have more brains.....

Here, activate a brain cell

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 05:10 PM

As long as you are stuck on the "both sides" Repub-speak, GfinS, all you are doing is parroting exactly what the Repubs wnat you to say... It gives them cover from their real motives which plainly are to disassemble the New Deal, one piece at a time... That has been the goal of the rich and the right going back all the way to when FDR got those pieces put in place...

And there is a very good reason why the rich want to do this... Their perfect strom is no unions, no social security, no medicare, no safety nets and no laws preventing them from oppressing the working class... These goals have been passed down from generation to generation and right now they have their best chance in 60 years and they are pushing hard... They have bought congress and the supreme court and now they are out to buy a country where they write all the rules and have all the money...

They aren't that far from that and the Tea Party is their sword and shield right now with the rest of the Republican Party right behind...

And they are using some of the very same tactics that the Nazi's used... If you bothered to study history you would see what a lot of us are telling you... Until you drop the "both side" Repub speak and mentality you will not be free to see things for yourself but stuck in the Repub spin turbine...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 05:47 PM

The Italian trio is marvelous, GfS!!!

As for your previous post to that, GfS, right on the money.

You're the one who doesn't get it, Bobert, because you are trapped in the old "us and them" 2-party mythology. Your intentions are excellent, but your thinking is out of date. Both your major parties are serving the rich elite and they are both intent on demolishing social security, wrecking the trade unions, taking away the social safety net, removing your civil rights, betraying your Constitution, giving away medicare to the rich medical elites, drug companies, and private health insurers, fighting foreign wars, serving the richest 1% of society and exploiting the rest. They use the 2-party system and its phony propaganda to divide and conquer the public. You throw own party out after 8 years of idiocy and corruption...the other one comes in...and the idiocy and corruption just goes on. Presently you throw that party out and the previous one returns to office...and the idiocy and corruption just goes on.

Why? Because it was planned that way, that's why. Obama won't save you. He doesn't work for you. He works for the rich elites, same as Bush did. The next guy (or gal) after Obama won't save you either.

What can you do about it? Damned if I know! What could an individual German of wisdom and conscience do after 1933? Not bloody much, except maybe leave the country like Marlene Dietrich did. So I won't advise you what to do, because if it was me I would leave the USA and go somewhere else. (And there are plenty of Americans I know living in Canada who have done just that.) But I doubt you want to leave. After all, you were born there...and ties are strong to the land of one's birth, as I well know. It takes a lot to walk away from your own country.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 06:17 PM

Why THANK YOU, Little Hawk...for a while I was beginning to think that the Mudcat forum was void of any common sense,(other than my own, of course!).
Ex-Pres. Nixon was right about one thing....."This will all blow over soon. The American public has the attention span of about two weeks!"

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 06:18 PM

You mean it is different in Canada, LH?

Personally, I don't see the UK as different. Our two main parties do differ in that one pulls harder than the other but they both pull in the same direction.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 06:25 PM

I very seldom post on the political threads anymore, GfS, because they are like a toxic tarpit...very easy to get trapped in...and full of illwill, hostility, and other negative emotional stuff that can only make one's day a little worse than it might have been if one hadn't bothered stepping in in the first place.

Basically a waste of one's time and energy. People come to vent at each other, that's all, and to "prove" how righteously superior they are to anyone who doesn't agree with them. I can't see how it would benefit anyone's life getting drawn into such hostile discussions.

But I did like what you had to say, and I loved the Italian trio, so I thought I'd comment on those briefly.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 06:34 PM

Jon - The political parties in Canada are the same basic deal as in the UK...they serve entrenched special interests (the rich), not the general public. The prevailing social system, though, is considerably saner, kinder, and more rational than is the case in the USA. I think that's simply a fortunate after-effect of a kinder, more reasonable social history in Canada in the last 200 years. It's positive inertia carring on from the past. It certainly isn't due to the spotless morals of our corrupted political parties! ;-)

The public in Canada, for instance, already expects and insists upon a universal health care system, takes it for granted as a normal civil right, and the politicians know it. Therefore they can't demonize it as "socialism" and they don't dare dismantle it.

That's not the case in the USA, where they CAN demonize it as socialism, and where they've never had it.

Canadians are protected merely by the fact that we have had a strong history of progressive social legislation in place already, and it's very hard for our corrupt political parties to tear it down now that people are used to it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 06:50 PM

For the longest while, I too, got out of the political bickering, because the measure of the rhetoric being tossed back and forth, was equal to the utter ignorance, of the poster...especially when it came to 'partisan folly-blather'! It's like they are retarded and proud of it!...and just keep digging their pit of block-headed stupidity, and think they will be admired for the depth of the hole, they dug, even when they can't seem to dig their way out..by frantically digging faster...(like borrowing and gambling to get out of a gambling debt!)..not unlike our present administration! Problem is, once you submit and subject yourself to someone for a 'blessing' they are promising...you also submit and subject yourself to their 'curse', as well! That's what you get for submitting and subjecting yourself to the 'lesser of to EVILS'!!!

BTW, it was both Don and Baghdad Bob 'Lim-bert' who advised me to vote for the lesser of the two evils, in earlier posts! RUBBISH!!

GfS

P.S. Shit, maybe I should move to Canada, and crash in on ya'!

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 07:01 PM

Get a room u 2!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 07:21 PM

No, neither of you get it, GfinS and LH...

You want to play the 2000 Nader fight song over and over and over... Hey, look, I was a precinct leader for Nader in 2000... I know the song... The song no longer works... It is hopelessly passe and does not recognize the assault that the Repubs are trying to pull on the working class...

I'm not saying the Dems are all that great... I am suggesting that they are, at least for now, all we have to stand up to the right wing...

But ya'll go on with your duet even if every verse sounds a little worse than the last... If this were the gong show ya'll woulda gotten the hook long ago...

BTW, this is 2011... Not 2000... Not '96... Not 92... Not your grandfather's fucking Oldsmobile...

"And then they came for me"...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,999
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 07:38 PM

GfS: I think the following needs amendment, because were it so, there wouldn't be such a preponderance of Republicans IN the TP (which stands for tea party (or toilet paper)).

"Look, I'm not 'defending' the Tea Party..frankly, they are a re-active backlash, to the 'ruling class' corrupted, WASTEFUL, lying, spending spree of the last few administrations, run by the international mega-corps, and bankers who have bought off our politicians."

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,999
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 07:39 PM

As an aside, it's too freaking hot to argue.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 08:30 PM

Yeah, that's for sure, 999. ;-D

Jack seems to be troubled by the fact that there are 2 people on a political thread who actually like each other! I admit it's a rare thing....highly unconventional...quite suspicious really! We should be fighting tooth and nail with one another and hurling personal insults in order to maintain the sweet and tolerant forms of communication to which most of these threads are devoted...

Bobert, I don't think for a moment that Ralph Nader will save you either. No third or fourth party is going to rescue Americans from the Big Two parties. Not a chance. A third party only syphons off enough votes from one of the Big Two so that the other can win handily, and that's no solution to anything.

So, nope, Bobert...I'm not suggesting you back Ralph Nader! I'm saying that there IS no solution to the political mess in the USA, and that if I lived there I'd be looking very seriously for some other place to live in, provided I could find work there. I'd get out, just like Marlene Dietrich got out of Nazi Germany.

There is, in my opinion, no political party that's going to turn things around in the USA, because the corruption of your political system has passed the point of no return, just as it once did in Imperial Rome.

But...it is, naturally, incument upon those of you who still think you can reform that system from within to give it the best shot you can. Fine with me. I wish you all the luck in the world. It's your country, so you might as well try, right?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 08:31 PM

And, for the record, th3e Tea Party is not some romanticized backlash to corporatization... They are dupes and pawns for the corporatists...

So get over that little BIG LIE...

The Koch bhrothers and the insurance companies pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes...

That, GfinS, is the real deal here... The Tea Party ain't Robin Hood... They are corporate Goons... Look goons up in context of history...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 08:46 PM

no lh, You two definitely are saying things to each other which should be kept between you. No one here want to see those lip prints on your butt.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 08:52 PM

Bobert, "big government" is the presumed enemy of the kind of people who rally to something like the Tea Party, is it not?

And big government is in fact admirably serving the purposes OF the large banks and the biggest corporations who loooooove Big Government, because they control it with their money, and it allows them to make a lot more money.

The ordinary people who are attracted to a protest movement like the Tea Party imagine themselves to be taking on Washington, don't they?

And Washington is a city dominated by corporate lobbyists and Wall Street.

I think the ordinary people who are attracted to the Tea Party are indeed dupes and pawns for a corporate agenda, but they have no idea that they are. They think they're fighting for the old traditional America of small towns, Ozzie and Harriet, Little House on the Prairie, the local church, etc., but they're simply being used to help divide the public along ever more extreme lines of partisan rhetoric.

Many idealistic people on the Left are being used the same way by turning their anger against people like the Tea Party or Sarah Palin or some other easily visible "enemy". Two sets of easily manipulated and very emotional and righteous dupes on the Right and the Left thus turn their anger on each other while the banks and corporations (who are really apolitical as well as completely ammoral) cash in on the gridlock and confusion that follows, the government passes the regressive legislation they want, and their money-making agenda goes forward.

The way the crooks at the top win is, they divide the public against each other, they push hot emotional trigger issues like "gay marriage", "right to life", etc., they play the race card, the gay card, the patriotism card, the gender card, the terrorism card, the ethnic card, whatever gets people REALLY scared, divided, and upset with one another, they send the public out to fight with each other over all that stuff, and they win by default while people are screaming in each other's faces and ridiculing each other. One part of the public then blames the other part for what happened, and the game goes on, and on, and on. The rich elite wins. Everyone else loses.

This happens in Canada too, but in a much more muted fashion, and more gradually, because things are less volatile here.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 08:56 PM

You're being silly, Jack. ;-) GfS doesn't even slightly resemble the image you are carrying in your mind.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 08:57 PM

Yup, seems as if we have a couple of wackos, that much is for sure...

If they had been in the band on the Titanic they would be planning what key the next song was to be in as the boat was going down...

"Classless and free" is what John Lennon penned about folks who like to pontificate and put themselves out there as the intellectuals while "castles burned"...

"all fuckin' peasants as far as I can see"...

Yup... Seems as they missed all the times when Nader had it nailed and now when there is the largest push to take down the New Deal in our lifetimes they still want to play old games and sing songs that are dated and stale and don't represent the here-and-now...

Now don't get me wrong... I like both of these wackos... I truly do... Doesn't change their wacko status in my book until they quit parroting Republican propaganda...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 09:19 PM

I was going to recommend a couple of other books, GfS, in an effort to help you keep from making a total ass of yourself, but I can see now that--well--that ain't gonna happen.

By the way, the kids are pretty good.

And Little Hawk:   You're doing it again.

You guys are totally beyond hope. Never mind. Not worth the bother.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 01:38 AM

Baghdad Bob-Lim-bert": "The Koch bhrothers and the insurance companies pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..."

And Soros on the left,..pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..."
the Rockefellers on both sides, pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..."
(Do you actually think they put YOU over the needs of the Rockefeller family treasure chest???... Carlyle group, both sides,pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..."
... Mr.and Mrs. James Carville, Democrat stratagist, (married to Mary Matalin, Republican statagist) both sides, pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..."
..I bet they don't argue about what new bullshit they come up with,..as they collect from their 'contributors', ..Immelt, (G.E.)who skips paying taxes, while promoting, tax INCREASES for us, and while actually conning the Democraps to support raising taxes..EXCEPT FOR HIS, pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..."
Monsanto, who backs every 'left' legislation to limit the public from having access to real food, or growing it, while they genetically engineer both a food monopoly, and unhealthy food, and seeds that do not grow, for the public, pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..."
...Bill and Hilary Clinton, who belong to the same financial group, as the Bush's pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..."
...Newt Gingrich, of Goldman Sachs, pulled together and spent hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..."
... Biden, who was the author of the 'Patriot Act', got others to spend hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..."
....Pelosi, the crooked bitch whose husband deals in processing home foreclosures, MADE hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..."
...Al Gore, who made over $500 million on HIS farcical version of 'Global Warming', while at the same time uses up huge amounts of power to 'light' his humble abode and fuel his private jets, to speak to numbskulls about 'conserving energy, and cap and trade' bullshit MADE hundreds of million$$$ organizing these dupes..."
....need I go on????? .....

..and all the while, a bunch of dumb lackeys, become self appointed 'experts', and peddle their bull-crap FOR THEM????..YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME???? You stand there with you shovel in hand, and tell ME, that I'm deluded??????!!!! ..Just keep digging faster. Maybe you'll dig to 'Nirvana', somewhere in China, where you couldn't even get away with such imbecilic behavior....OOOPS, I nearly forgot, I'm insulting your political 'model'.

Oh well, I guess its true....you can't teach an old dog new tricks...or in some of your cases, 'You can lead a horse(or pig) to water, but you can't make it play a banjo!'

Don't you just LOVE how their guy Obama got the 'stimulus' package signed, and the mega-corps are holding the money, unemployment has never come down, we pay the interest on the loans, for that money....and the moronic imbeciles, drag their knuckles on the ground muttering, "Well it would have been much worse, if he didn't get that bill through"....and to top it off, you want to be seen as an astute 'expert' on the subject!!??!!...only because you heard some clown pundit say that on one of the mega-corp owned 'news' commentaries?!?
Talk about DUPES!!!! It's down right pathetic....only Monty Python could come up with something, that could resemble more of a parody, of 'stupid'!!!

OK..Your turn....try outdoing embarrassing yourselves....there is a hole waiting for you to dig!!!

GfS

So go support you most recent folly....in a couple of years, you'll be spouting just the opposite side of the coin....if there is any left, to split.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 01:44 AM

Here, try this out!   .....at least you won't be able to hurt yourselves!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 01:46 AM

Really kind of sad.

Some time back, the shaft on the propellor beanie that GfS was wearing came loose and it screwed itself into his head, inadvertently giving him a lobotomy.

That explains a lot.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 02:06 AM

Don: "Some time back, the shaft on the propellor beanie that GfS was wearing came loose and it screwed itself into HIS head, inadvertently giving HIM a lobotomy."

....and Baghdad Bob-Lim-Bert says I'm a 'SHE'.....now you two figure out which of you to is completely out of their mind. Let me know, when you astute judges of in depth insight, come to an agreement...until then, I'll just watch the steam rise in the horizon, while you two fry your brains...probably with beanie propellers.

Jeez,..and that's the BEST he could do. Hey!!!..try thinking about what I posted to you, and stop feigning 'incomprehension'...I thought you thought higher of your intelligence!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 04:18 AM

I don't know why anyone would was to argue with a vacationer from sanity.

Anyone who argues that the Tea Party is anything but a rebranding of the worst elements of the GOP is playing the fool and is a dupe themselves.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 08:15 AM

Does anybody here like the music of David Allan Coe?

I do. I recently heard his newer recording of Death Row with the blues harp and it was great.

I heard it on AOL Radio.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 09:40 AM

hmmmm

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 01:32 PM

I like David... Met him about 30 years ago... BTW, he is working cheap (relatively) these days so if anyone wants to hire him fir a gig let me know and I think I can get the offer to him...

Well, I was drunk the day my mama got outta prison...

Nevermind... Back to the delusional GfinS... All the $$$ that George Soros has is chump change compared to the Koch brothers...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 01:48 PM

Just so, Jack. Shakespeare asked, "What's in a name?" Well, oftentimes, quite a bit. "Guest FROM Sanity" about says it all.

####

Seattle has been an innovative Rock town for some decades now. Jimi Hendrix, Nirvana, many others. And now—

Who needs Vlad? The world has    CLICKY.   With Kaci doin' her thing. (She also has a YouTube video where she demonstrates taking off her bra in about 13 seconds without removing her top.)

This video is presented as a Public Service as a diversion for those who are so frightened by the Evil Forces in the World that they are too intimidated and terrified to even think about trying to deal with them (hence, helping to guarantee their worst fears: that the E. F. of W. will eventually take over the entire planet).

You're welcome.

Don Firth

P. S. To Sawzaw. Well, yeah. . . .   Not my particular thing, but I'm not exactly a stranger to Rock.

My nephew.    And here he is again.

P. P. S.   I might not be back much today. I'm getting together with an old friend of mine this afternoon. He's quite active politically. We're going to PLOT!

P. P. P. S.   By the way, for GfS and Little Hawk, and others of like—er—mind, here's an organization they might be interested in joining:    Quiet! They might be listening!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,999
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 02:22 PM

Brevity is the soul of wit. GfS does not share most of the views espoused by others. So what. Why pick on GfS. (I don not share GfS views, but that is no reason to resort to rancor.) IMO.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 02:51 PM

Not to worry, brucie... GfinS has dished up more than her fair of manure on others here and she can take it... The ol' gal ain't some frail little thing... She's the original prototype of Nurse Ballbuster...lol...

But this thread is about the Tea Party and not GfinS...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 03:01 PM

As far as resorting to rancour is concerned, take a look sat some to the posts of GfS. If you disagree with him about much of anything, he immediately comes back with a string of personal insults.

I don't like it either, 999, because it interferes with rational discourse. But these ginks are not interested in rational discourse, and unfortunately, some people give their baseless ravings credence.

You will note that, when they do abandon civilized behavior, I tend to temper my come-backs and rebutals with humor. It tends to amuse the rational folks here, but really gets up the noses of people like GfS and Sawzaw, because they seem to have had their senses of humor amputated early on.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,999
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 07:25 PM

Gentlemen, GfS was rude to me many maonths back, so I seldom address him/her. However, I feel no need to be rude back--other than my initial GFY in response to the post that slagged me.

This type of call-response posting is beneath you. Hell, I know both you guys and have admired each of you for various reasons for many years now. I ain't telling you what to do. I am saying it's a waste of your time.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 08:06 PM

Point taken.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 08:45 PM

Hey, brucie... I think that you are making more of this than any of the participants in the mud pit...lol... I mean, yeah, we don't exactly agree but there is a level of caring, fondness and respect between all of us... I know it can be hard to see thru it from the outside but we all (the participants/combatants) seem to understand the where the boundaries are with the exception of Sawz... But GfinS and LH fully understand that Don and I aren't this, ahhhh, enemy...

Like it is said, "Ya had to be there"...

I mean, both GfinS and LH know that this ol' hillbilly loves 'um but also like to mix it up- with them on occasion...

That make any sense, brucie???

I mean, I loves you, too, but if you go mean mouthing olf Fords then we can wrestle around, too... lol... Fords rock!!! Okay, the newer ones leave a lot to be desired but the old ones rock!!!

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,999
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 09:40 PM

OK, Bobert. Thanks.

As for Fords--jaysus. Fix Often, Repair Daily; Found On Road, Dead.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 09:55 PM

No, brucie... It's...

F...irst
O...n
R...ace
D...ay

Fords rock!!!!

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 10:33 PM

JTS: "I don't know why anyone would was to argue with a vacationer from sanity."

Frankly, neither do I....unless they like to play Devil's advocate, and learn something along the way!

JtS: "Anyone who argues that the Tea Party is anything but a rebranding of the worst elements of the GOP is playing the fool and is a dupe themselves."

As I've posted SEVERAL times before, I am NOT a Tea Partier, nor do I support them....but I CAN see why it appeals to some people, who want a change.....but, as also posted several times(sometimes I have to repeat myself to ideologues, they are very SLOW in learning, or even comprehending), "I'm not with the party, I'm with the band!"

Baghdad Bob Lim-baugh...or bert: "Nevermind... Back to the delusional GfinS... All the $$$ that George Soros has is chump change compared to the Koch brothers..."

In for a penny, in for a pound! You mean Soros made NOTHING after crashing the British pound?? Soros is a LOT wealthier, and crazier, than you have any idea apparently.

Guest 999: "GfS does not share most of the views espoused by others. So what. Why pick on GfS. (I don not share GfS views, but that is no reason to resort to rancor.) IMO."

Well, they do that rather than debate the issues, because they have NO FACTS to back them up...only liberal 'squawking points'...which is usually just hot air blowing out someone's ass. Typically when the name calling rancor begins, its because they sense they've lost the argument, and instead of engaging in fact finding, their inflated egos, just start bickering. It's another sign of short-sighted, Narcissistic stupidity!

Guest 999: "Gentlemen, GfS was rude to me many maonths back, so I seldom address him/her. However, I feel no need to be rude back--.."

..and we've both baked each other up, too, on occasion...Don Firth, as well.....(even a broken clock is right, twice a day)!

Bobert: "know it can be hard to see thru it from the outside but we all (the participants/combatants) seem to understand the where the boundaries are with the exception of Sawz... But GfinS and LH fully understand that Don and I aren't this, ahhhh, enemy..."

Because, in his heart, he knows we're right!!!

Waving To You All!!!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Jul 11 - 10:56 PM

No, it's because you are like our younger siblings who don't get it yet...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Jul 11 - 12:22 AM

..or because you old farts are senile!

BTW....If you fell into a pile of money..let's say billions, would or wouldn't you support a political effort??

If you did, OK..nothing wrong with that.....BUT if you used it to leverage agendas, in a corrupt way, that's a different story.
If it was legitimate, I'm sure your 'opposition' would come up with all sorts of slurs at you, wouldn't you say???..even media bias, as well..

I notice you ALWAYS jump on the Koch Bros......just what is it that, THAT YOU KNOW, is corrupt about them?...other than being rich, and oil people. To my knowledge, I don't know too much about their dealings, other than that of virtually all mega-wealthy people.
(I'm not setting a 'trap', or anything...I was just curious.

I noticed you didn't address the other people and entities I mentioned. THOSE I KNOW are corrupt bastards!

Another thing, just for what it's worth....remember when I said I talked to a couple of Tea Partiers, a while back??....I mentioned the Koch Bros. to them, and they didn't seem to know too much about them, either...but one seemed to know about one of them, by name(only).
Regardless, as I posted before, the 'attraction' for a lot of the Tea Party joiners, seems to rest with a frustration with 'business as usual in Washington'...and the people being screwed, as a result of it, and the loss of our(perceived) freedoms.

Just a simple response will do.(No lecturing, bad-mouthing, or pontificating)...OK?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Jul 11 - 06:52 AM

There is a big difference between the way Soros and the Koch's spend their political money.

The lion's share of Soros' donations go to further the aims of the poor and working class. Moveon, is constantly asking me for money and specifying where it will be spent. In that way it is very democratic and transparent.

The Lions share of Koch money goes to make government friendlier to their own interests such as coal mining and lower taxes, at the expense of those with less than them.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Jul 11 - 07:04 AM

"Regardless, as I posted before, the 'attraction' for a lot of the Tea Party joiners, seems to rest with a frustration with 'business as usual in Washington'...and the people being screwed, as a result of it, and the loss of our(perceived) freedoms."

When financial regulation was before Congress, I joined one of the Tea Party groups in the hope that I could find allies. They were not interested. They told me to "speak to Ron Paul's people." Then I asked them, wouldn't it be better to work at persuading both sides to work for their goals than just supporting Republicans. They said (paraphrase) that there was no such thing a good Democratic candidate. I pointed to the Dino in my own district. They ignored that.

Then I probed them to find one difference between theirs and the GOP congressional agenda. I could find none. Then I asked them outright, was there a difference. They admitted that there wasn't.

Anyone one joining the Tea Party to make a difference in Washington is being duped.

If you want change in Washington you can support the Dems and push change upon then at a glacial pace. Or you can Vote GOP, for changes which take us on the track of Reagan and Bush II.

The Dems do listen to their voters. But keep in mind that their voters are many times more diverse.