BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 02:36 PM

And I'd bet of those 3 that none of them are still in thr fields...

That's one of the things, among many, the Tea Party folks really don't get... Might of fact, I'd love to see a panel of them on TV being asked questions about current events, civics, economics and government to see just what it is that these folks ****do*** get???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 02:43 PM

Of course, if they were breaking rocks with twelve pound hammers cheaper than rock could be produced in a rock-crusher, and somebody came along and said, "Take our jobs."

          The response would be, "What's the point?"

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 02:45 PM

Try this one on for size.

If the tea baggers, with the attitudes they have displayed so far, and the kind of people they support, were time machined back a couple of centuries, would they be trying to protect the Indians from "Manifest Destiny?" Or would they be right in there, shoving them off their ancestral lands and murdering those who were reluctant to leave?

As brutal as some of the Manifest Destiny bunch were, at least they were not running actual murder factories.

Don Firth

P. S. The last time I was up around the Tulalip Indian Reservation (some forty miles north of where I live), I didn't notice that there were, or ever had been, any gas chambers there. And nobody is stopping anyone from leaving the reservation if they want to (in fact, many do). And--there are a couple of casinos on the reservation, however, and it looks to me like they're doing pretty darned well at fleecing the tourists!

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: KB in Iowa
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 02:54 PM

Of course, if they were breaking rocks with twelve pound hammers cheaper than rock could be produced in a rock-crusher, and somebody came along and said, "Take our jobs."

          The response would be, "What's the point?"

But that is not what they were doing.

I believe you have said before that machines could harvest the crops as well as and cheaper than people can but in many cases that is not true. In some cases where it is true it is still not automatically desirable. Tomatoes can be harvested mechanically. In order to do this and still get something on the shelves that people will buy a type of tomato had to be developed that could withstand the rigors. They are notoriously tasteless.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 03:02 PM

Then you have to pay more for an up-scale tomatoe. That's a lot cheaper than supporting a bunch of farm workers in the off-season, and their children, and their aged parents, and, and, and, and...

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 03:13 PM

Perhaps you can explain something for me, Rig.

Suppose you were looking for a job picking asparagus, apples, lettuce, or whatever. What difference would it really make to you if the jobs you looking for were already filled by either an immigrant farm worker or a machine?

The job has already been filled in either case.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 03:19 PM

Now there's that logic thing again, Don. That's just not wanted here.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 03:35 PM

Yeah, mouse. Futile.

Bad habit of mine. . . .

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 04:07 PM

"Perhaps you can explain something for me, Rig."


       Of course, the job goes to the lowest bidder. The employer doesn't have to take into account such things as school budgets, food stamps, welfare, emergency room expenses, SSI to aged parents, illegaly gained unemployment compensation, and things that become stolen around the community, because the taxpayer picks up the tab for those things.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 04:59 PM

Here's a clue for you, Rig.

The employer has to pay taxes too, so he also pays for that litany of sins you complain about.

It's a wash.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 06:36 PM

It's not anywhere near a wash, Don. The employer pays a little fraction of what it costs to support all of these illegal people, but he reaps huge benefits. An organic farmer who does all of his own work has to pay for the corporate farmer's greed and gets no benefit from it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 06:42 PM

Brad Hatter - Tea Party candidate ;,)

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 09:43 PM

Actually, that's Had Matter. Had the fate of the country mattered, everyone would have supported the Tea Party.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 10:10 PM

Nah, Rigs... They wouldn't... There was a time in our country's history were most white folk didn't give a second thought about slavery being immoral and inhuman... The Tea Party is the new 'n improved KKK... No two ways about it...

But yeah, if ya' go back a couple hundred years the Tea Party would fit right in...

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 10:43 PM

Going on for easily the past thirty years now, Seattle has needed to upgrade its transit system. Three times now, the voters have voted for a monorail system. Not just the iconic Seattle monorail that runs from Westlake Square downtown the mile-and-a-half to the Seattle Center, but one that serves the entire city and nearby communities.

One of the many advantages of a monorail is that existing streets are usable even when the pylons and overhead tracks are being put in. And when it's finished, rather than buses or surface rail taking up space and adding to the street congestion, the monorail trains run overhead, above the street traffic. And monorails cost the taxpayers a mere fraction of what surface rail systems cost, both to install and to maintain, especially if the surface rail system involves any tunnels.

Another advantage of a monorail system is that, if it is eventually found that it doesn't serve commuters all that well, the overhead rails can be remove and the pylons dug up (with minimum impact on the surrounding area while it is being done), and they can be moved and installed somewhere else. If a surface light rail system complete with subways doesn't do what it's supposed to do (as is the case with such a system in Los Angeles), you're just bloody well stuck with it!

And three times now, the will of the voters has been ignored. Currently being built is a combination surface and subway system, involving digging a tunnel under the Lake Washington ship canal and under Capitol Hill. This involves building subway stations along the way. And not more than a half-dozen city blocks from where I live, a two block area, the former site of several businesses that served the neighborhood, has been condemned. There is currently a massive hole there where a subway station, complete with elevators to the tunnel below, is being built. $$$$$$ and more $$$$$$!!

There's one helluva lot of corruption in there somewhere!!

Now, while all this is going on, there is a big dispute over replacing the I-90 waterfront viaduct, which was damaged in the Nisqually earthquake nine-and-a-half years ago. Although it is still being used, it's deemed unsafe. And God help anyone driving on it should another earthquake hit, which in this seismically active zone, is sure to happen sooner or later.

Rebuild the viaduct? Tear it down and replace it with 1) a surface highway along the waterfront? Or 2) a tunnel, which would allow free access to all the shops, restaurants, and other facilities on the shores of Elliot Bay? But this tunnel would require building a new sea wall. And suppose you're driving through the tunnel when that inevitable earthquake occurs and a fractured sea wall allows Elliot Bay to come roaring in?

All of these options, except for the surface highway, which is currently being ignored, involve, to quote the late Carl Sagan, "billions and billions" of taxpayer dollars.

In the meantime Seattle and environs is frequently in the throes of massive traffic gridlock.

Any solution is going to impact the taxpayers severely.

And Seattle is not the only city to experience problems of this nature. Or unique problems of their own that involve massive amounts of funding to solve.

And you will note that I'm not even mentioning the national budget. And the Military. . . .

I wouldn't mind seeing a bit of FDR-style "socialist" regulation being applied to the miscreants, both in the legislatures (both local and national), and in business, who push for the most expensive systems they can peddle so they can line their pockets with taxpayer's money.

This is why, if Emilio and Maria Rodriquez, unregistered immigrants, have to take their eight-year-old daughter, Teresa, to a hospital emergency room because their worried about her sore throat, and Medicare has to pick up the tab because they don't have insurance and they don't make that much (he's a gardener and she cleans houses), I don't really sweat it all that much.

Concentrating one's complaints on little folks like this is a bit like spending one's time and energy swatting at flies while lions and tigers and bears (oh, my!) are raging throughout the land!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 11:02 PM

Very well put, Don...

There is no sanity left in our policies.... It's all about corruption... Why do you think that Dick Armey's lobby/PR folks organized the Tea Party in the first place??? Well, to the grunts, i.e. the actual Tea Party folks it because Obama is this or that and the elitists are callin' us rednecks...

But when you strip away who is using whom and fir what purpose??? This is 100% about the Repubs getting back to the big money... Nothin' else on the planet... The corporations are in complete control of the money...

So, the Repubs right now would marry up with the SS, to go along with their marryin' up with the radical right Tea Party, if it means gettin back to the big dough...

This is 100% about money right now as far as the Repubs are concerned and let's not forget what money was used to orgainize the Tea Party in the first place...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Donuel
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 11:44 PM

As time moves on there are several certainties regarding the tea party;

One is that the extreme right wing swing of their political pendulum will move toward the center.

Second, they will still not attract as many independants as they predict.

Third, while less certain, if the republicans do gain a house majority, the 30 odd members of the tea party Congressional Caucus will become the killer pit bull pet of the Republicans to create things like a House Unamerican Activity Commitee to demonize suspected Socialists while the Republicans will pretend plausible deniability to tea party deeds. In other words the right will not be satisfied with teaching once and for all that America is made of, by and for the rich, they will feel a need to punish the non believers.

Fourth, the tea party will NEVER put their money where thier mouths are regarding no deficit spending. Otherwise the wars would be the first thing cut, and that is of course anathma to the Republican military contractor complex.





When the right gets on a roll they have proven they have no brakes so
"IF" I were to really go out on a predition limb, the birther members of the House of representatives will be given a new veneer of power as they will claim their case is finally proven with new Congressional investigations by a division of HLS instead of the GAO.
They may even insist upon deportation for the Obama family for the rest of their lives. Also if any attack upon the US is successful the right will foam at their mouths for a full lock down police state mode. IT seems an attack on the US is actually on some Republican wish lists.


PS Bobert you really seem to be getting your 'Liberal freak' on. Good for you!

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 12:53 AM

You'll NEED to read this one!!!!
   
    It'll effect your check next year, no matter who you are!!!!!
    Oh:   and thomas.gov is a REAL government website!!!!!! too
    YOU MAY WANT TO READ THIS! IT MAY AFFECT YOUR BOTTOM LINE NEGATIVELY NEXT TAX PERIOD.

    I contacted my Congressman about House bill HR 3590, the health care bill. I asked for a summary of changes.
   
    The Aid directed me to go to www.thomas.gov http://www.thomas.gov%3chttp/thomas.gov/; enter HR 3590 in the search box and look for summaries.
   
    Starting in 2011 (next year folks) your W-2 tax form sent by your employer will be increased to show the value of whatever health insurance you are given by the company. It does not matter if that's a private concern or Governmental body of some sort.
    If you're retired? So what; your gross WILL go up by the amount of insurance you get.
   
    You will be required to pay taxes on a large sum of money that you have never seen.
   
    Take your tax form you just finished and see what $15,000 or $20,000 additional gross does to your tax debt. That's what you'll pay next year.
   
    For many it also puts you into a new higher bracket so it's even worse.

    This is how the government is going to buy insurance for 15 % that don't have insurance and it's only part of the tax increases.

    Not believing this, I researched the summaries and here's what I'm reading:
      On page 25 of 29:
      TITLE IX REVENUE PROVISIONS- SUBTITLE A: REVENUE OFFSET      
    PROVISIONS - (sec. 9001, as modified by sec. 10901) Sec.9002. "requires employers to include in the W-2 form of each employee the aggregate cost of applicable employer sponsored group health coverage that is excludable from the employee's gross income."

    Joan Pryde is the senior tax editor for the Kiplinger letters. Go to Kiplinger's and read about 13 tax changes that could affect you. Number 3 is what I just told you about.

    I hope you forward this to every single person in your address book. People have the right to know the truth because an election is coming in November and we need to vote in Conservatives that will repeal this horrid law!

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Melissa
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 01:04 AM

snopes, tax increase/health insurance

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 01:42 AM

Melissa, I love you.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 07:00 AM

More Tea Party misinformation shot down in flames...

Here one, however, that seems to be true... Ya' ll all know who Michelle Baughman is, I'm sure... Yeah, she is a representastiove from a highly gerrymandered distict and is safe as yesterday doing any whacko thing she wants in terms of getting re-elected so...

...she has orgainized a Tea Party Caucus in the House of Representative!!! No kidding!!! She started with 6 Republican reps and is up to 36 of the 150 or so in the House...

Boy, I'd like to sit in on one of their meetings... Wonder if they hang the Hitler/Obama poster up and chant hang him in their meetings???

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Riginslinger
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 07:21 AM

Okay Melissa's post says exactly what Sanity says is says. Is there a mystery here?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 08:43 AM

Andrew Breitbart is certainly a terrorist.
He was completely willing to very publicly destroy a civilian non-combatant in order to make a political statement.
The very definition of a Terrorist.
And Faux News has a history of aiding and abetting this terrorist.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 09:09 AM

Yeah, TIA... Reckon folks who have never considered what it musta been like to be a black person in the Jim Crow South won't have a clue but...

...yeah, if ya' know that people are out there who are on Boss Hog's payrolll and their only job is to take yer life's work and twist it in a manner that makes you look like a monster then that has to be terribly terrorizin'... I mean, for black folks who are old enogh to rmember Jim Crow I'm sure there is alot of "Oh shit, I thought we were past that" thinkin'... I mean, it's only natural...

Personally, I don't think too many white people get this because they haven't spent enough time with black people to have a knowledge base that let's them fully understand the lingerin' effects of a hundred years of Jim Crow... Hey, I've spent alot of my life working with and around black folks and would like to think I have an understanding but no one really can understand it if they don't have some history livin' in fear...

Maybe this will become a teachable incident but the probklem is that the folks who are doing the terrorizing (like playground bullies) don't see themselves as part of the problem and are the very ones who won't allow themselves to learn anything from it but...

...quite the opposite... They are allready lining up with their usual poor-victim-me rationalizations and alibis... Normal...

Yeah, I think we are way past due to have that discussion on race that Bill Clionton tried to get going back in '96... There are way too many folks out there who are clueless...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 11:28 AM

Rig, did you read beyond the complaint? Snopes goes on to analyze the charge and delivers a verdict: FALSE.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 11:41 AM

Don't clutter poor ol' Rigs head with facts, Eb... I'm not too sure what has happened to Rigs but he/she has certainly taken a sharp turn to the right... Way right, too... That means that facts are no longer relevant...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 12:17 PM

'Right' certainly doesn't mean 'Correct', these days.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 12:39 PM

I was thinkin' about that just a little while ago, Eb... Seems that the right (Repubs) have become the party of liars... Bush lied to US and got US in a really expensive and immoral war...

Now we have a string of lies being told over and over by the right (Repubs) as they try to lie their way back into power...

The sad thing is that the American people are either too busy or too dumbed down to have a clue that they are being feed a steady diet of mythology from the right (Repubs)...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 01:18 PM

"Rig, did you read beyond the complaint?"


            You're right, Ebbie, I missed it the first time, but it looks like what you don't pay in additional taxes you'll make up for in higher deductables, so what is gained?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 28 Jul 10 - 07:32 PM

Are college professors a terrorist organization?

"Now how do I know that the white people know that we are going to come up with a solution to the problem. I know it because they have retina scans, racial profiling, DNA banks, and they're monitoring our people to try to prevent the ONE person from coming up with the ONE idea. And the one idea is, how we are going to exterminate white people because that in my estimation is the only conclusion I have come to. We have to exterminate white people off the face of the planet to solve the problem. *applause* Now I don't care whether you clap or not but I'm saying to you that we need to solve this problem because they are going to kill us. And I will leave on that. So we just have to set up our own system and stop playing and get very serious and not get diverted from coming up with a solution to the problem and the problem on the planet is white people."

Dr. Kamau Kambon

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 28 Jul 10 - 09:14 PM

Boberts defense of kill cracker babies statements:

"No, once again you have put forth another patented oranges/apples arguement."

Ok Bobert keep analyzing everything I say and how I say it.

If Bobert didn't hear it or see it in his left wing media sources, it is totally discredited. It does not matter.

Of course when some militia group buys guns and it hits the liberal media, it is as important to him as the end of the world.

As per your request, my analysis of your petulant rants is racist and bigoted. That's because you want to excuse what a bl**k panther said and condemn a person that legally wears a pistol and carries a sign bearing a Thomas Jefferson quote. Right while the Secret Service is watching him and the cops [whom you claim would kill you for the same thing] are watching him and saying it is legal and he is no threat. Seems to me you want to violate this man's civil rights.

PS: More analysis: You asked what kind of gun it was and I said it was a S&W 9 mm pistol not a rifle. Then you say "what is the difference" and then you go back to repeating it was a rifle. If there is no difference, why do you keep insisting it was a rifle? Facts elude you Bobert. You now know it was a pistol but you keep saying it was a rifle.

Even more analysis: You seem to have written your self a permit to say things that are incorrect while you demand that others stick to the facts. That is unless it is a good buddy that agrees with your "Bobert facts" A member of the Bobert fan club. They get a pass. And even those members have tried to tell you on several occasions that you were wrong but it bounces off of you like bullets off of Superman. Like Tweed that said you have become bent.

Your claim that you "would have been shot if" is a typical attempt to distort the truth and make a fact out of a hypothesis. A theory that "If this had happened then that would have happened and that's a fact" It's an unproven theory, not a fact. Theories have to be tested before it becomes fact.

How many presidents have been shot by people visibly carrying a gun anyway?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Jul 10 - 09:51 PM

One question, Sawz... If I had showed up at one of those scripted Bush war rallies with a gun and a sign suggesting that its the patriotic thing to do to off leaders from time to time what do you think would have happened??? Don't hurt yer head on this one...

BTW, you wouldn't know a fact if it bit you on yer right winged posterior...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 31 Jul 10 - 01:36 PM

Why didn't they shoot the guy at the Obama rally Bobert?

Besides, what does it matter if it didn't happen?

We have the following facts to go on:

A guy showed up at an Obama rally.

He had a gun.

He had a sign.

He did not get shot.

He did not try to shoot Obama.

All of the local and Gov police knew about it.

They all said it was legal and he was within his rights.


You are trying to concoct some sort of Bogey Man scanario and turn it into a fact.

That is a scare tactic. A straw man logical fallacy.

Also it is or will soon be a Negative proof fallacy. That is if I can't prove the guy wouldn't have been shot at a Bush rally [proving a negative] then he would have been shot and that constitutes fact.

I am not your enemy Bobert. I merely show where you are wrong and you get a grudge trying to prove your unprovable points. You also exhibit a grudge for anybody that disagrees with you. Whereupon you start using personal insults as if it proves you are right.

You start threads like this one to deliberately stir up an argument and then you complain about people the arguments.

Certainly you want to know if you are right or wrong. Or are you an Idealist that only knows how things should be rather than the way things are.

You are always wailing about the facts I bring up being minor details and then you accuse others of not knowing the facts.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 31 Jul 10 - 01:51 PM

I think, extrapolating from the general tenor of Bush public meetings, with their special "free speech zones" and heavy handed policing actions, that if the situation Bobert suggests had occurred the perpetrator would have had his legal rights severely and rapidly curtailed.

A

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 31 Jul 10 - 01:51 PM

Why wasn't the person holding this sign shot Bobert?

Bobert fact #98745731 Anybody that disagrees with Bobert is automatrically wrong and they are a right winger.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 31 Jul 10 - 02:25 PM

PRobably because they were unarmed?


A

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 31 Jul 10 - 05:49 PM

Yeah, that's exactly it... The sign holder wasn't armed...

You may poopoo what Amos and I have said would have happened to me at a Bush rally if I had the sign and the gun but, hey, you live in another reality that really cannot possibly comprehend what it is like to watch yer entire leadership and movement wiped out with assasins bullets...

Hey, if Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, John Beohner and Mitch McConell were offed over the next year I think you might have some idea of our reality... And, no, I am not threatening that or even wishing it... But if that happened tghe conservative movement would be set back decades because it would set a fear level in every right winged loonie out there thinking it's okay to be an obnoxious, anti-socail jerk...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 11:19 AM

Bobert: Your "reality" is based on what ifs and not based on reality.

"if Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, John Beohner and Mitch McConell were offed over the next year I think you might have some idea of our reality"

You are one step away from hearing voices.

"if that happened tghe conservative movement "

"what if I were to take a Cherokee and fly it into a Tea Party gathering???"

"if I had the sign and the gun but"

"if ya' know that people are out there who are on Boss Hog's payrolll and their only job is to take yer life's work and twist it in a manner that makes you look like a monster then that has to be terribly terrorizin'" That one is really scary.

"If I had showed up at one of those scripted Bush war rallies with a gun and a sign suggesting that its the patriotic thing

"if he's around, can tell ya' what kinda rifle it was... It ceratinly wasn't a pistol... It was some kinda shortened rifle.." Bobert's reality keeps changing a S&W 9 mm pistol into a rifle. And then there was that gold plated M-16 too.

"if all of a sudden liberals started a liberal NRA and armed themselves as well as the righties then I don't think the "redneck superiority complex" (RSC) would hold up too long"

"if it had been a group of very rowdy, heavily armed Black Panther lookin' dudes accross the street from a Bush rally???" This one is particurly unrealistic because Bobert discredits anyone who uses the Black Panthers in a hypothesis. Yep Bobert has given himself special priveledges that he denies to others. Reality at it's finest.

"I find it incredulous that anyone would use the Black Panthers as an argument that the "left" is as guilty as the "right" in assholish behavior" But it is OK for Bobert to use the Black Panters as an argument that "right" is as guilty as the "left" in assholish behavior"

You are welcome to your private reality that is based on what ifs and you own special set of rules, Bobert.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 12:34 PM

Methinks, Sawz, if you spent a fraction of your artistic energy in making rational counter-arguments, instead of investing so much homework in making Bobert sound bad, you would be a lot more credible.

For my part I do not think the Tea Party is "terrorist", but I think they try very hard to be loud and intimidating, and I think they are misguided.

Seriously misguided.


A

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 01:56 PM

"♫. . . if he only had a brain. . . .♫"

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 03:07 PM

Wait a minute, Amos... I like what Sawz did... I mean, some of them quotes is purdy danged good...

And ya' gotta admit that it is flattering to know that there's someone out there who prolly has a wall filled with yer piccures and all these quotes... I mean, yer just jealous, Amos, that you don't have yer bery own cyber-stalker...

As fir the Tea Party being a terrorist organization??? I mean, let's not put them up there with Osama but they certainly understand the use of terrorism... I mean terorism cvomes in all shapes and sizes... If yer this nurse who happened to wnat to speak up at a town hall meeting in favor of health care reform only to find the room filled with very pissed off, vulgar and rude people, hey, you prolly were terrorized...

I mean, these tactics are meant to scare.... Hmmmmmm??? So are the Taliban's tactics...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 03:41 PM

"making rational counter-arguments"

Like Bobert does?

Like his rational argument about the gold plated M=16 and all kinds of booty?

How about the beater airplane he claims Obama bought?

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 03:51 PM

Like I say, Sawz, you can make your choice--try and find an intelligent discussion, or get fixated on hating Bobert. Sounds like you made your decision. You and BB should get together and have a few beers and explain to each other how Bobert and Amos made you do it...



A

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 05:37 PM

Hey Amos:

Bobert is the one that is constantly saying who wants to kill who and who hates who and stiring up the hate.

"buy guns, lots of ammo and learn to shoot straight 'cause these rednecks mean to kill people who ain't like them...
they are out there preachin' violence"

I merely disagree with his logic and you turn that into hate.

When he goes about blabbering about what ifs and calims that constitues facts, that is not a rational argument.

You have told him several times that the tea party is not a terrorist organization but he continues his rant.

Maybe you and him should have a few beers. Or maybe pass a reefer and the Jug around. Maybe you could talk some sense into him. But AI doubt it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Aug 10 - 08:06 PM

Hey, Amos... Saws has a point there... How 'bout bringin' a bigass bag of that good California weed to the Getaway..

The other points??? SOS... Who cares??? Saws lives in one of them parellel universes where Jim Crow never lived... Where there was never a civil right struggle... Where Bubba really doesn't mean he is suggesting killin' Obama... You know, some kinda Republican utiopia where if there is anything uncomfortable in yer life all ya got5ta do is make a happy oitcure and then twist, distort and mythologize yer way there and everything will be just fine...

Well, it will for Saws... Won't for the folks who are hurt by the policies that his boys want to put in place but, hey...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 13 Sep 10 - 12:52 PM

Bobert's boys created Jim Crow. Now they have to twist the truth in an effort to deny it.

Some of 'em even have to take up weed as an escape from reality.

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Sep 10 - 12:58 PM

My boy is only 25 years old, Sawz... I mean, Jim Crow had been gone a long time when he was born in '85...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: olddude
Date: 13 Sep 10 - 01:16 PM

Fight nice kids ... don't make me send you to your room or else !!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Amos
Date: 13 Sep 10 - 04:41 PM

Sawz:

"Bobert's boys created Jim Crow..." is a really off the wall accusation. Which of Bobert's boys do you specifically mean, if specifics are not too big a challenge?


A

Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Sep 10 - 06:13 PM

Not to worry, Amos and ol'ster... I gotta a call from the Betty Ford folks and they are gonna 'round Sawz up and get him back on the program... He does have a tendency to fall off the wagon...

And 400...

B~