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BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??

Bobert 26 Apr 10 - 01:00 PM
Sawzaw 26 Apr 10 - 11:24 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 01:00 PM

Yeah, Don, I know all about his tricks... 9 out of 10 of them are to divert attention from the issue at hand...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 11:24 PM

Don(Wyziwyg)T

You have a right to your opinions, Bobert has a right to his opinions.

Do I have a right to my opinions? Can I call you and idiot if your opinion is different from yours?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 11:51 PM

Everybody has a right to their own opinion. Nobody has a right to their own facts.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 12:21 AM

"The guy had the "Tree of Libert sign"


It was a sign with a quote from Thomas Jefferson who also said "For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security."

and a gun (not a pistol) straped to his leg where Obama was getting ready to speak... Do you deny this???

It was a Smith and Wesson 9mm pistol.

Kostric, who is in his mid-30s and lives near Concord, N.H., said he never entered the town hall or laid eyes on Mr. Obama, who was ushered into the event held in a local school through a back entrance.

Kostric said the Portsmouth police initially asked him to move 1,000 feet away from the school, but then permitted him to stay on the grounds of a church because it was private property. (Federal law generally restricts carrying firearms within 1,000 feet of school grounds, but the law does not apply "on private property not part of school grounds" or to anyone with a carry permit, with Kostric says he has.)

"I was weighing my options," Kostric said. "I was considering walking out to the car and dropping off my firearm and coming back. (The policeman) got off hte phone and relayed to me, that if I wanted to stand on the church property, which is about 30 feet from where I already was, that would be acceptable because it was private property."

Kostric: "Personally, I think Obama is a very charismatic speaker. I can certainly see why people are attracted to him, though I'm surprised at his politics in general, since he has taught classes in constitutional law.

I haven't felt that our country has been headed in the right direction since I first took notice of politics. In fact, it was only because I thought things were going so poorly that I took any notice of politics at all. Certainly when things are going our way we tend to become complacent.

I campaigned for the impeachment of Clinton. I campaigned for the impeachment of Bush. I'm not fond of Obama's policies and I'm sure I'd dislike McCain's just as much (I did live in Arizona)."

U.S. Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan when asked whether   individuals carrying weapons jeopardized the safety of the president, Donovan said, "Of course not."

The individuals would never have gotten in close proximity to the president, regardless of any state laws on openly carrying weapons, he said. A venue is considered a federal site when the Secret Service is protecting the president and weapons are not allowed on a federal site, he added."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 12:25 AM

Before anyone posts anything else...didja read the link Alaska Mike posted? (use the URL, not the link)

Go do it please.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 12:31 AM

That is a good article. But it's preaching to the choir. Nobody it's aimed out would get it -- it's just more "playing the race card" (meaning saying anything at all about race rather than just bobbing and pretending that everything is just grand).


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 07:39 AM

Ahhhh, and now for the rest of the quote, The tree of Liberty "must be refresed from time to time with the *blood* of patriots and tyrants"... Like mouse said, yes folks are entitled to their own opinions, just not *their* own "facts"...

The fact is the guy had some kinda rifle strapped to his leg... and that sign... Don't take a Menza Society member to fully comprehend the message...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: beardedbruce
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 11:25 AM

Bobert,

"It was a Smith and Wesson 9mm pistol."

NOT a rifle.


Your continuous repeating of a false detail impacts the percieved validity of the rest of what you say.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Apr 10 - 12:41 PM

What's the difference??? That makes it just that much worse seein' as handguns are repsonsible for the bulk of the murders in this country... No matter, it was a purdy big gun perfectly capable of taking out anyone the guy wanted to take out... That is the point...

Had I shown up at a rally where Bush was going to speak with a 9mm and a sign that eluded to the shedding of blodd, I would have been arrested or shot... That is the real point here... Not what kind of gun it was...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 12:12 AM

Way to strain a gnat and miss the camel, Bruce. You'd make a good Republican.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 06:58 PM

""Can I call you and idiot if your opinion is different from yours?""

No Sawz!....If that were the case you would have to call me schizophrenic.

And a lousy typist.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 07:05 PM

""U.S. Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan when asked whether   individuals carrying weapons jeopardized the safety of the president, Donovan said, "Of course not."

The individuals would never have gotten in close proximity to the president, regardless of any state laws on openly carrying weapons, he said. A venue is considered a federal site when the Secret Service is protecting the president and weapons are not allowed on a federal site, he added."...
""

I bet Bobby Kennedy would have appreciated the irony of that comment.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 09:19 PM

""Camped out" must be a southern term"

Common Aussie term too.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Alice
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 09:35 PM

"Camped out" means the same in the western states, too. Not just a southern term.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 09:41 PM

Well, well, well...

Seems that cmaping out doesn't have to involve camping equipement afterall???

So there ya' have it, Sawz... As fir yer latest attempt at playin' fact-checker-from-hell... Sorry, pal, but thinks you got an F...

But keep anaylizing everything I say and how I say it... Shoot, too bad Miss Gardner ain't around... She was the English-teacher-from-hell... Ya'll would hit off real well... Sho nuff would...

(Hey, Boberdz... How do you know that Ms. Gardener ain't around??? Maybe she is and like a 100 years old and maybe she visits this joint and maybe, jusy maybe, she is Sawz???)

Nah... I mean, she'd be more like 105 and that's a tad on the old side fir this joint... Or any joint, fir that matter...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: beardedbruce
Date: 21 May 10 - 07:15 PM

refresh


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 May 10 - 08:06 PM

Bruce, refreshing every thread that you think kind of corroborates your contention that we are equating the Tea Party with the KKK does not give credence to your opinion. If you'll notice, people spoke up in opposition to the notion. The straws you are grasping will not sustain you.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 21 May 10 - 09:37 PM

Well, lets just lay out the facts... The Tea Party candidate who just won the Republican primary in Kentucy believes that business owners, such as Woolworths back a long time ago, have the right to deny service to anyone they don't ahppen to like for whatever reason??? Hmmmmmm??? For black folks who remember growing up in Jim Crow America the fact that there are that many Americans out there still who harbor these beliefs has to be terrifying...

Hey, I ain't black but I find it terrifying... I really thought we were a little further down the road... Guess not...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 21 May 10 - 10:57 PM

Shit, Bobert, you think [i]evidence[/i] matters in a shit-sling like bruce the hirsute prefers?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 21 May 10 - 11:02 PM

I donno, mouser...

I mean, I like Bruce but I think that he has some serious problems with living in these times... I think he should have been born a couple hundred years ago in the South into a prosperous white family...

But if I had my druthers, I'd have him born a couple hundred years ago into a slave family...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 22 May 10 - 04:56 AM

""LOL.....So Don, try this: Go to your mirror again and say "40 inch dick" and see what happens.""

Be fair Bobert.

BB has one of the finest minds of the twelfth century.

LOL
Don T.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 22 May 10 - 08:10 AM

LOL, Don..


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 22 May 10 - 05:16 PM

Hmm. I looked up 12th Century smart guys on Wikipedia and his name didn't show. Could he be posting here under a pseudonym?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 22 May 10 - 05:49 PM

Listen, mouser... I know this is gonna be hard to digest but bruce is a here-an-now kinda guy... That means that unless he's has some Moses DNA in him that he prolly wasn't around in the 12th century... I know that is hard to believe but it's true... Hey, I know bruce and I don't think he's even 60 years old...

As for his politics??? Don't ask me??? I have a sneaky suspicion that he tunes in regularially to folks like Beck and Limbaugh who, like bruce ain't 8 or 9 hundred years old but have this kind Jim Crow/John Birch mindsets???

What I don't understand is how people can have those values... I mean, yeah, I understand some rich folks who just flay out greedy and don't want to pay taxes... That expalins Rush and Beck but, unless bruce is hiding somethin' (which he might be) I don't get it???

I get it with brain-dead rednecks, BTW... Give them 24/7 NASCAR on cable and Budweiser and they will do anything you wnat them to do...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: pdq
Date: 22 May 10 - 06:10 PM

"The Tea Party candidate who just won the Republican primary in Kentucy believes that business owners, such as Woolworths back a long time ago, have the right to deny service to anyone they don't ahppen to like for whatever reason???"    ~   B-pert

With support from the Tea Party folks, candidate Rand Paul won the Kentiucky GOP primary.

He is a novice in politics and seems to say exactly what he is thinking.

Some members of the public like that, but it will lead to him being roasted alive by professional politicians and their enablers in the professional news media.

What Rand Paul said, in response to what was probably a trap, was that the 1964 Civil Rights act was probably unconstitutional, although he fully supports the goals.

That is a libertarian position and goes with other libertarian views that drugs, alcohol, homosexuality, nudism, and a host of other issues are personal choices and not the job of the federal government to regulate.

Clubs that say "Blacks only" and Mexican restaurants that don't serve Gringos would be against the wishes of most Americans but not illegal under strict Constitutional interpretation. Mr. Paul's statement that business owners have the right to refuse service to people they don't like is probable correct according to the Constitution.

Perhaps we need a few free-thinkers in Congress to get some open debate back in the process.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: mousethief
Date: 22 May 10 - 06:57 PM

Listen, mouser... I know this is gonna be hard to digest but bruce is a here-an-now kinda guy... That means that unless he's has some Moses DNA in him that he prolly wasn't around in the 12th century... I know that is hard to believe but it's true... Hey, I know bruce and I don't think he's even 60 years old...

No shit, Sherlock. Your irony meter broken?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bill D
Date: 22 May 10 - 07:07 PM

"He is a novice in politics and seems to say exactly what he is thinking">/i>

He seems to have learned that from his father, who made it work in Texas to get noticed...but Kentucky is a bit different, and his pa weren't runnin' for Senator.

There is value in being honest and saying what you really believe, but as Republicans are s-l-o-w-l-y learning, you need to be careful how you say it until you get INTO office.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 22 May 10 - 07:52 PM

Yeah, mouse, I got it... Jus' funnin' a little with Bruce, Rush and Glen...

Now as fir you, Bill... I mean, you go and put me in the blender with bruce on another thread fir having the audacity to suggest that equating the Tea Party to the Kaln is equal to equatin' Obama to Hitler...

No, these repubs need to be called on their positions... Yeah, it's easy to say "Oabam is a socialist" or "We wnat our country back" but Paul was called on a ***position*** and he stepped up as if, "Hey, I'm just being truthfull so that makes me a good guy"... No. Mr. Paul, you are not a good guy... Good guys don't advocate seperation of the races... That is called racism, Sir!!!

That's the beef I have here with this thread and others like it... Seems that the left is being asked to quiet down... Seems too many folks willing to buy into the "BIG LIE* that both sides are out of order and need to calm down... No!!! One side, and ****only**** one side is out of order... The right thinks that they can use domestic terrorism to push their narrow agenda on everyone else... And since the assasination in the 60's they have purdy much had their way... I mean, they ever get away with strappin' on a gun and carring a sign that advocates taking a life at an Obama rally??? If the left did that they would be shot right there... But the right get away with it and the guy become a folk hero???

We has some very distorted views of what is really going on here... The right is out of control and now we hear on the left that we've been equally guilty??? I mean, that is as wrong as wrong can be... The left ain't out here threatenin' violence... There weren't no "Hang hims" about McCain during Obama's rallies... The left hasn't taken out Rush and Glen... The left hasn't taken out Strom and Dick Armey...

No, I ain't buyin' this crap for one minute...

The Republican Party needs to denounce violence in the sttongest terms... That means no Rep. Wilson trying to shout down the presdient in a speech before Congress... It means telling folks that it ain't okay to bring guns to Obama rallies... It means that it ain't okay to kill doctors... It means what it means!!! No more terrorism from their goons... No more lathering up their goons...

Ya'll want to talk policy then let's get it on... But no more terrorism...

And fir those of us on the left, no more apologies... We ain't doin' nuthin' wrong and we shoul;dn't have to cowtie to buying into the idea that there bad stuff happenin' on both sides... That is the ****BIBASS LIE**** of the century!!!

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Sawzaw
Date: 13 Jul 10 - 10:45 AM

Is the Black Panther Party a Terrorist Organization??

Minister King Samir Malik Zulu Shabazz:

"You want freedom? You're gonna have to kill some crackers! You're gonna have to kill some of their babies!"

"I hate white people, all of them! Every last iota of a cracker, I hate 'em,"

"Through South Street with white, dirty, cracker whore [expletive] on our arms. And we call ourselves black men with African garb on."

"What the hell is wrong with you black man? ...with a WHITE GIRL on your damn arm!"!

"You want freedom? You're gonna have to kill some crackers! You're gonna have to kill some of their babies!"

"I'm about the total destruction of white people."

"I hate white people."

"The only thing the cracker understands is violence."

"The only thing the cracker understands is gunpowder. You got to take violence to violence."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Jul 10 - 03:31 PM

That stuff ain't mainstream, Sawz.... Might of fact, I have never heard any of that stuff... It ain't in the newspapers... It ain't on TV... It ain't like a "movement"... Sounds like one ol' 60's radical doing a rant... Lotta difference between on guy on the street corner rantin' and millions of folks thinkin' that somehow someone took their country away from them and they are now mad enough to think about "2nd Ammendment" solutions... That *is* a movement... Not burned out 60s crack head ranting...

The Black Panther Party ain't been squat since the early 70's... It was crushed by the same folks who would kill me if I showed up at a Bush rally with a "Tree of Liberty" sign and a gun: the cops!!!

They did it in Chicago... They di it in Oakland and Frank Rizzo's boys sho nuff did it in Philly... Crushed the Black Panthers like they were pesky bugs... Shot 'um dead in the bedrooms... Paraded them thru the streets nude...

No, once again you have put forth another patented oranges/apples arguement...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 13 Jul 10 - 03:56 PM

But Eric Holder is mainstream, and look how dangerous he is.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: pdq
Date: 13 Jul 10 - 04:31 PM

Actually, the ugly side of the Black Panthers was clear to the publisher of Ramparts Magazine by the early 1970s...

                                                                               whole article here

"...I suggested a solution. Betty Van Patter, who was already doing the books for the Learning Center, might be of help in handling the general accounts. This was to be my last act of assistance to the Party. The crises of the fall had piled on one another in such swift succession, that I was unable to assess the toll they were taking. But in November, an event occurred that pushed me over the edge.

There had been a second teen dance, and this time there was a shooting. A Panther named Deacon was dead. His assailant, a black youth of 16, was in the county hospital. When I phoned Elaine to ask what had happened, she exploded in the kind of violent outpouring I had become used to by then, blaming the disaster on "the police and the CIA." This stock paranoia was really all I needed to hear. (Years later, I learned from other Panthers that the shooting had been over drugs, which the Party was dealing from the school.)

When I walked into the school auditorium where Deacon lay in state (there is really no other term for the scene in front of me), I suddenly saw the real Party to which I had closed my eyes to for so long. Of course, the children were there, as were their parents and teachers, but dominating them and everything else physically and symbolically was the honor guard of Panther soldiers in black berets, shotguns alarmingly on display. And, added to this spectacle, mingling with the mourners, there were the unmistakable gangster types, whose presence had suddenly become apparent to me after Elaine took over the Party: 'Big Bob,' Perkins, Aaron, Ricardo, Larry. They were fitted in shades and Bogarts and pinstripe suits, as though waiting for action on the set of a B crime movie. In their menacing faces there was no reflection of political complexity such as Huey was so adept at projecting, or of the benevolent community efforts like the breakfast for children programs that the Center provided.

Underneath all the political rhetoric and social uplift, I suddenly realized was the stark reality of the gang. I remember a voice silently beating my head, as I sat there during the service, tears streaming down my face: "What are you doing here, David?" it screamed at me. It was my turn to flee.

Betty did not attend the funeral, and if she had would not have been able to see what I saw. Moreover, she and I had never had the kind of relationship that inspired confidences between us. As my employee, she never really approved of the way Peter and I ran Ramparts. For whatever reasons — perhaps a streak of feminist militancy — she didn't trust me.

Just as a precaution, I had warned Betty even before Deacon's funeral not to get involved in any part of the Party or its functioning that she didn't feel comfortable with. But Betty kept her own counsel. In one of our few phone conversations, I mentioned the shooting at the dance. She did not take my remark further.

Later it became obvious that I hadn't really known Betty. I had counted to some extent on her middle class scruples to keep her from any danger zones she encountered in Panther territory. But this too was an illusion. She had passions that prompted her to want a deeper involvement in what she also perceived as their struggle against oppression.

There was another reason I did not express my growing fears to Betty. The more fear I had the more I realized that it would not be okay for me to voice such criticism, having been so close to the operation. To badmouth the Party would be tantamount to treason. I had a wife and four children, who lived in neighboring Berkeley, and I would not be able to protect them or myself from Elaine's wrath.

There were other considerations in my silence, too. What I had seen at the funeral, what I knew from hearsay and from the press were only blips on a radar screen that was highly personal, dependent on my own experience to read. I had begun to know the Panther reality, at least enough to have a healthy fear of Elaine. But how could I convey this knowledge to someone who had not been privy to the same things I had? How could I do it in such a way that they would believe me and not endanger me? Before fleeing, my Panther friends had tried to warn me about Huey through similar signs, and I had failed to understand. My ignorance was dangerous to them and to myself. Finally, only the police had ever accused the Panthers of actual crimes. Everyone I knew and respected on the left — and beyond the left — regarded the police allegations against the Panthers as malicious libels by a racist power structure bent on holding down and eliminating militant black leadership. It was one of the most powerful liberal myths of the times.1

One Friday night, a month or so after Deacon's funeral, a black man walked into the Berkeley Square, a neighborhood bar that Betty frequented, and handed her a note. Betty, who seemed to know the messenger, read the note and left shortly afterwards. She was never seen alive again..."


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Ref
Date: 13 Jul 10 - 05:14 PM

The New Black Panther Party has nothing to do with that of the sixties. By the way, it has now been revealed that the decision to drop the investigation against these dumbasses was made well before the Obama administration took office.

Most of the "scandals" of the Obama administration (ie, NBPP, ACORN, etc) are just right wing fictions that the MSM is too damned lazy to research and debunk.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Greg F.
Date: 13 Jul 10 - 06:04 PM

the ugly side of the Black Panthers was clear to the publisher of Ramparts Magazine by the early 1970s...

Wake up, asshole- the 1970's was 40 years ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Jul 10 - 06:13 PM

Yeah, Greg F, I find it incredulous that anyone would use the Black Panthers as an argument that the "left" is as guilty as the "right" in assholish behavior... Ain't so but the Repub will throw that dung at the wall anyway hopin', like the rest of their lies, that it will stick...

Kinda surprised that no one, other than me, has brought up Frank "The Shank" Rizzo... He was a real piece of work...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: akenaton
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 03:09 AM

Wake up guys, do you still think that a fair society will evolve politically from the mess we see at the moment?

In the UK, the National Health Service is being effectively privatised and handed over to multi national corporations, other attacks on the standard of living of the very poorest are in the pipeline, via VAT rises and stealth taxes.

All because Capitalism fucked up and the result gives them the excuse to futher tighten the screw.

At least Sarah and her party are talking about radical solutions, while the left whistles into the wind.

Regardless of Obama's rhetoric, "change" will never ge presented to us by any politician, and certainly not by a man groomed by the system, like Mr Obama.
"Change" has to be fought for, the capitalists would call that fight terrorism, but to fight at all we need to be united.

There is something in Mrs Palin and the movement which supports her, which echos all that is great about the US. Dont waste your only chance.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: akenaton
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 03:51 AM

Regardless of what some here may think, political orientation is no more genetic than sexual orientation.......Mrs Palin will be what the US wants her to be.....a catalyst for "change".

And most importantly, a strong gutsy woman!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 10:02 AM

Right, Ake... Let's just put that mental midget of a strong gutsy woman in charge... Great thinkin' on yer part... That oughtta be 'nuff to end everyone's misery...

BTW, we're gonna respectfully have to ask ya' fir a little pee sample, por favor... Here's the cup... You know the drill... No, not "drill, baby, drill" drill... The other drill... No be a good Ake and just pee in the cup, will ya'???

B;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 10:04 AM

Why am I not surprised!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Riginslinger
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 10:12 AM

Now it seems like the NAACP has become a terrorist organization.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: akenaton
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 11:36 AM

Ah Bob my ole friend.....I like your sense of humour.

But with Mrs Palin as Pres it would be possible at last to break the stranglehold of the "one party system" and free the American people, something which will never happen through the existing political channels. Us lefties may find ourselves in an uncomfortable possition for a few years.....but change will come.

Seems to me, Sarah is saying the kind of things which will enable her to strike for power.
Once there she will mould herself,as a populist, to what the majority want her to be.....thats where the American people come in, do they want to gamble on their last chance for meaningful change, or are they content to piss and whine?

I have faith in America....god knows why, but I think they are naive enough still to believe they can defeat the forces of darkness!

We in the UK, by contrast,are so cynical and fucked up, as to be beyond helping ourselves.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: akenaton
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 11:39 AM

Ebbie baby, what have you found to be not surprised about, today? :0)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 11:56 AM

Rigs: "Now it seems like the NAACP has become a terrorist organization."

Jeez! The way things are going, even Mudcatters will be thought to be a 'Terrorist organization'.....best to stick with music!

Hey, Akenaton, nice to see you on, again!..Been sorta' busy working in the studio, and doing a few gigs!...(or for the elitists, 'gigues').

Regards,

GfS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: akenaton
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 01:36 PM

Hi Sanity.....Always nice to see you....wish I could hear some of your work. Knowing you, its bound to be interesting! :0)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Don Firth
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 04:02 PM

The idea of Sarah Palin as President gives me (and most people I know) cold chills! And puts us to seriously contemplating emigration if it should actually happen.

She is an arch-conservative, is a member of a Pentacostal church (and is one of those who wants to "restore" America as a "Christian nation"—despite the First Amendment), is vigorously opposed to any kind of gun control, wants to throw the Alaska wilderness (including national parks) open to unrestricted oil drilling, opposes any and all environmental regulations, and enjoys the sport of shooting wolves from a low-flying plane (without wolves, Alaska would be ass-deep in caribou, among other things much less innocuous), and she has proven her general failure to grasp reality by opposing any kind of sex education in schools other than counseling kids to abstain—a policy which, as we have seen, worked very well with her daughter, Bristol!

The woman is a political catastrophe and a mental pretzel!

But then, if your idea is that the United States needs to hit rock-bottom before people will wake up and start thinking intelligently, then that would be one route to go.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: akenaton
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 04:28 PM

Real change has always come through emotional commitment, bravery and selfless stupidity, rather than "intelligent thought" Don.
Most people are incapable of "intelligent thought"....there is a big wide world out there, Mudcat does not represent that world.

If we were capable of "intelligent thought" would we allow ourselfs to be serially fucked by the corporations and political factions who rule us?........for example, the "financial crisis" and the kicking we are about to receive because of it?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: akenaton
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 04:44 PM

and a whole series of wars, in which mainly the children of the poor were butchered to "save" a parasitical system.

If we had been "thinking intelligently" we would have kept those children safe at home.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 04:47 PM

"...emotional commitment, bravery and selfless stupdity..."... Hmmmmm??? Same ingrediaents that has brought mankind most every war that has ever been started... Nevermind...

Ahhhh, as for our terribly messed up corporatology... The way they got there is having the money to buy the government... Didn't take mush more than that and thden they let the government do their dirty work fir them...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: akenaton
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 05:03 PM

Yes thats what I mean Bobert.....these emotions can be used in the interests of our masters...always have been.

This time lets use them in our own interests!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Tea Party a Terrorist Organization??
From: Bobert
Date: 14 Jul 10 - 05:05 PM

Righto, Ake and...

...300!!!


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