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Subject: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 23 Apr 06 - 05:26 PM In the thread that questions the lifting of Johnny Cash to icon status, it was mentioned that Catspaw49 is one of the Mudcat icons(oddly enought,it was mentioned by me)--and it got me to thinking about who the other Mudcat icons are--and, because I am nothing if not a dualist, I recognize that negative icons are just as important as the positive ones--maybe more so, because there is nothing like a common enemy to bring a community together-- Some of you are lazy bastards, and will try to get away with posting a laundry list--I won't accept that--when you nominate your icons, explain what they represent, and explain how and why you think that they were elevated by our community into the Pantheon-- This will be tricky, because Mudcat, being a community that includes performers and musicians, has members who are actually icons in the folk/traditional world, as well. Some people may disagree on the icon status that others put forward--discussion is ok, but let's not be disrespectful to anyone--For starters: MAX: The creator of our world, and the mostly absent father figure--he very rarely speaks directly to us, but mostly communicates through- JOE OFFER: His earthly representative--Some see him as benevolent and tolerant, others as a strict and arbitrary- and of course, there are the demons; GARGOYLE--who spews both venom and gems of wisdom MARTIN GIBSON--who some say is the Anti-Christ, and others say is a harmless trickster-- And the Knights Errant: Catspaw49, Bobert, Little Hawk, Katlaughing, WYSIWYG--etc. You thoughts? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: The Shambles Date: 23 Apr 06 - 05:29 PM I'll stick with Johhny Cash. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Little Hawk Date: 23 Apr 06 - 05:51 PM I think one should include various semi-fictional characters, such as: Cletus, Paw, and the Reg Boys (*groan*) (but hey, they ARE icons...) The Little Pissant Cleigh O'Possum Now, the above were all created or at least promoted by Spaw...so they are spinoff icons from HIS obvious status as a Mudcate Icon. The same might be said of a number of characters I have created or promoted, such as... Chongo Chimp Blind DRunk in Blind River (Shane McBride) William Shatner in all his matchless iconic manifestations, which are legion, and probably growing as we speak. Big Mick is a Mudcat icon, I'd say. When he posts you know that someone is speaking who pulls a lot of weight (no pun intended) on the forum. The Shambles is a Mudcate icon, having attained unusual notoriety by bringing up certain issues over and over again.. There are certain institutions that have by now become Mudcat icons: The NYCFTTS (another creation of Spaw's, the Neil Young Center For The Terminally Screwed is a sort of retirement home for folkies who have entered their 2nd or 3rd childhood and for whom there is, frankly, no possibility of restoration to coherence or lucidity. The MOABS thread. This running joke about a thread which combines all the BS under one title has lived on far beyond the intentions of its originator, Khandu, and now serves as a club for about 8 or 10 people to chatter inanely in on a regular basis. The WSSBA (William Shatner School of BAAAAAAD Acting) was launched by mois with the intention of attaining iconhood just like the NYCFTTS...but I don't think it ever quite made it. Wasn't for lack of trying... ;-) Clinton Hammond - Mudcat icon due to his somewhat aggressive approach to human relations... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 23 Apr 06 - 06:15 PM While he only posted infrequently by the time I joined Mudcat, I knew him before those days. He was a man who had an impact on people, and still does in here. Rick Fielding Any questions? Jerry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John MacKenzie Date: 23 Apr 06 - 06:25 PM Kendall Morse, and McGrath of Harlow, both for speaking sense while others were speaking nonsense. Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Bill D Date: 23 Apr 06 - 06:29 PM Jeri, for her growing musical knowlege and taste...interspersed with a keen eye for the point of some of the long-winded debates we get into here. She doesn't usually hang out in the middle of unseemly battles, but when she does comment, it often hits a nerve. I wish I could be as clear and relevant in so few words...(no doubt others wish I could too...☺...I may be an icon of verbosity) and for just straight, happy, interesting, clear, charming, relevant sharing of ideas and feelings...Ebbie! She has become one of my 2-3 favorite posters....now if I could just get her to say more in person...*grin*. (yes, YOU, Ebbie..) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Georgiansilver Date: 23 Apr 06 - 07:02 PM Anyone who posts under their 'member' name, and unashamedly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Ebbie Date: 23 Apr 06 - 07:06 PM gulp |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: GUEST,TIA Date: 23 Apr 06 - 07:06 PM Amos |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: bobad Date: 23 Apr 06 - 07:54 PM  Mudcat icon |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Bobert Date: 23 Apr 06 - 08:45 PM Well, well, well... I don't do slam books.... The heck I don't!!! This ain't hard at all 'cause there's a bunch of folks who fall into the verious tiers of icondom... Of course there are the "old farts icons"... Heck, we all know who they are and we love 'um in spite of theur old fartishness... Then there's the not-so-ol'-farts who have been 'round Mudville 'bout as long as me an' they nknow who they are... The one's I especially iconerate to icon status are those who either pull my butt out of the messes I create or like fighting with the likes of the folks that ain't on my icon list and them folks know who they are as well... Then there's this last tier of icons... Well, not ewxcatly icons but icons-in-the-makin' and icon-wantabees and these folks don't have a clue who they are an' I ain't gonna tell 'um 'er they might get big heads and and blow their chances to one day be ol'farts... Yeah, that's the way I see it... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: GUEST,TIA Date: 23 Apr 06 - 09:06 PM and Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: kendall Date: 23 Apr 06 - 09:38 PM And, if elected, there will be a little pot in every chick. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: jimmyt Date: 23 Apr 06 - 09:43 PM Leadfingers |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John Hardly Date: 23 Apr 06 - 09:53 PM What a strange thread. And what a equally strange, most unexpected person to have started it. M.Ted -- was always near the top of my short list of people about whose postings I gave a care. Oddly, because he seemed: 1. full of good information, and 2. only a mild hit-and-run where BS was concerned -- and that mostly well-reasoned (even if I did disagree quite often) thoughts. Definetly NOT "one of the gang", but an MVP in my book. PeterT -- god how I loved the way that guy could turn a phrase. You could isolate his "best of" posts and they'd be worthy of a forum of their own. Always wished I had that kind of mind. Similarly wish I'd that way with words to express it. Sure there was always a ten foot wall between us -- he was kinda the "anti-Fielding" if you will, where (as Peter once put it) caring for those "with their face pressed to the glass" is concerned. I kinda chalked that up to: 1. Inherent shyness on his part, and 2. Maybe I'd distance myself from me too -- maybe the guy just has taste that matches his wit. :^) Big Mick -- symbolized the warmth of mudcat to me for a long time. Guy went out of his way (miles and miles) just to meet with me when I know he had to be BEAT from a long business trip. But the mudcat (and folks associated with it) were that important to Mick. Yeah, he's one of the first I think of when I think of the mudcat. Fielding/Catspaw -- never knew either one of them. They would have been the Ruth & Gehrig, Larry Bird & Magic Johnson (I doubt that catspaw has the magic.....nevermind) to any music-related forum they ever chose to settle into. Enough personality, humor, creativity between the two of them to turn any forum into a community. Hell, catspaw's humor was so great, so unique, that I'd place a sizable wager that his humor posts from 1998 are the initial source for all that goddam forwarded email humor that spams my e-box every day. Thanks for nothing, catspaw! dickhead. :^) DougR -- unflappable class. Has taken the worst and acted as a gentleman. Probably the closest to his comportment, but from the "other side" would be the equally "mudcat idol"-type -- McGrath of Harlew (or whatever the heck that nom-de-cyber is. I never remember it, idol or not). I think the last one to come to the forum (chronologically, and before it became a political rather than musical forum) with the same kind of sensibility, humor, care for music and......heck, who I'd actually REALLY enjoy sitting down with and playing music....and the fact that he may not be on other's short list of "idol" candidates is testament to the changes here (and what's now valued), and not his "best-of-mudcat-esque" postings is Bee-dubya-ell. It seems that Jeri posts nearly as infrequently as I visit. Had mudcat gone more the way of her way of being....my visits wouldn't be as infrequent (maybe not a good thing) and maybe she'd post more frequently (definitely a good thing). Some trades prove to just not be worth it. That guy that some call "Leej" (is it lonesomeEJ or something?) and JenEllen. Marvelous writers. I DEFINITELY think of them when I think of the best of mudcat. Mooh -- though less prominent, most every good thread had at least one contribution -- a worthy one -- from Mooh. If this had remained a music site two of the first mentioned would be Frank Hamilton and Art Theime. Hmmmm. There are definitely friends from mudcat that I have a greater affinity for -- admire more -- but this is a list of "mudcat idols", right? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: gnu Date: 23 Apr 06 - 10:02 PM Every clone... why? For putting up with us. Max... why? For putting up with us and with the clones. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 23 Apr 06 - 10:44 PM Thank you for the kind words, John Hardly, I've always thought you were one of the good ones, too. Given that, though, I don't think I am an icon--I mostly try to help people who are wrestling with any of the many things that a musician/performer/lyricist/composer must face daily. As to the "strangeness", well, yes--guilty as charged. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: GUEST,Cluin Date: 23 Apr 06 - 10:59 PM Bruce Murdoch, a scary kinda icon... at least to this guy anyway. To the rest of us, he's a sweetheart. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Little Hawk Date: 24 Apr 06 - 12:43 AM That is a memorable album cover. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Little Hawk Date: 24 Apr 06 - 12:54 AM LEJ and Peter T. are amazing writers...as good as it gets. Rick Fielding would have to be the greatest Mudcat icon of all. It's hard to believe he's not still here among us. (physically, I mean) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Ebbie Date: 24 Apr 06 - 03:12 AM There are so many but if I had to choose just one, it would be katlaughing. I think most of us recognize her as a sensitive, caring, heart-wide-open treasure. She is one of those people of whom it can be said, You can share without caring but you cannot care without sharing. Thanks, kat. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Ernest Date: 24 Apr 06 - 04:07 AM hmmm.... in addition to those listed above I would like to add Jerry Rasmussen - wish I could start threads like he does... Poppa Gator - the first catter I met in person so far* and also a man of taste. "Thanks" to Katrina he could be our Noah! Best Ernest * = I didn`t count my friend Marty.bye here because I knew him before he joined up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: The Shambles Date: 24 Apr 06 - 04:35 AM Guest. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: ard mhacha Date: 24 Apr 06 - 05:03 AM Guest and my favourite is the Guest who blasts Bush on a regular basis, keep them coming. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: GUEST,NODDY Date: 24 Apr 06 - 09:57 AM I am to shy to say. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: greg stephens Date: 24 Apr 06 - 10:01 AM Greatest humourist John from Hull, who frequently changes his name, and is currently the Rt Hon Sir NoRman from Hull or something like that. Best politicos: DougR (right), McGrath(left) Most useful sources of information: Masato Sakurai and Malcolm Douglas. Sadly miseed: Rick Fielding. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Mooh Date: 24 Apr 06 - 10:34 AM Rick, dick, Mick, Alice, Bruce, Spaw, Jerry, John, MTed, and I like to hear from Jeremiah, black walnut, and Aine. Wish I had the time to be a Full Patch Member Of The Mud, but there are other things. Two days ago I was awakened from Mudslumber by a lovely lady canvassing for the Cancer Society. It's bad enough that I've lost close family and friends to cancer without feeling guilty about doing little about it. I gave more than I can really afford, but I can't afford not to give more...if you get my drift. Turn off the computer and go DO something! Around Mudcat, those who DO something are the icons. Thanks for the reminder. Peace, Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Alice Date: 24 Apr 06 - 11:08 AM Mooh, as a Mudcatter who posted almost daily since 1998 and then had life overtake that obsession a few years ago, thank you for remembering my name! I've been more active offline since letting go of constant mudcatting. Maybe I'm all talked out on the most of the threads... Bruce O was one of my favorites for adding interesting info on sources. Also Philippa and Big Tim. The rest of my old mudcat buddies know who you are and that I love you all for what you offer. Alice |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: GUEST Date: 24 Apr 06 - 11:20 AM Bill D, for good&/interesting computer information. Mark Cohen for medical advice (Have I got that right?) bbc |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: GUEST,bbc at work Date: 24 Apr 06 - 11:20 AM Sorry, that last post was me! bbc |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 24 Apr 06 - 11:28 AM The people who sybolize what is good about the Mudcat for me are Bill D and Rita, Rick and Heather, Mick, JenEllen, Amos, MMario, Mousetheif, Gnu, LittleHawk and of course the lovely CarolC. I consider none of them Icons but I am proud to call them friends. I was proud to call Max and Joe friends too. But we appear to have had a falling out which I will mention no further on ted's fine thread. I guess I underestimated DougR. I never cared much for his opinions, seemed to close to Bush talking points for me, but he did tend to stay on topic. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: GUEST,DB Date: 24 Apr 06 - 12:10 PM I nominate Malcolm Douglas because he knows about folk music (rather than having fatuous opinions based on guesswork, received wisdom and wishful thinking). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Once Famous Date: 24 Apr 06 - 12:18 PM I'll tell you a bunch who are not. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 24 Apr 06 - 12:25 PM What Martin seems to mean is that very few rise to the level of icon, either positive or negative, and consequently most Mudcatters are not icons. We are indeed blessed to have him to state the obvious for us, in the bluntest possible manner. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: alanabit Date: 24 Apr 06 - 12:49 PM He is more often than not my opponent in the debates here. I want to mention Doug R though as a man, who can deliver his opinions clearly, but without malice. You don't have to be spiteful or undignified to express a firm view. Doug R is proof of that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 24 Apr 06 - 12:57 PM I agree about that Alan. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: gnu Date: 24 Apr 06 - 01:42 PM Say.... where is Mousethief anyway? Has he posted lately? I can't recall the last peep I heard out of him. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 24 Apr 06 - 01:44 PM In an attempt to swerve out of the way of trouble, here, it suddenly occurs to me that the subject really would include performers and personages that are commonly referenced revered by Mudcatters--beyond William Shatner, that is-- Merle Travis and his guitar style(or a misunderstanding thereof) is often invoked here-- as are The Carter Family and Mother Maybelle's guitar style(or a misunderstaning thereof)-- Nic Jones is revered by some here in a manner usually reserved for the dead, and Martin Carthy is often cited in the manner some might cite the Twelve Tables of the Law-- Comments, Questions, or Observations? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 24 Apr 06 - 01:46 PM The Ghost of Stan Rogers strolls through here once in a while. That's one thing that attracted me to this site in the first place. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 24 Apr 06 - 02:53 PM Icons are human and, as such, there's an asshole behind every one of 'em. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Amos Date: 24 Apr 06 - 02:54 PM Not to mention Earl, Doc, and even Arlo. And, the list cannot be written without putting our own Kytrad at the top. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: GUEST,Seamus Kennedy Date: 24 Apr 06 - 03:00 PM Just one icon - Rick Fielding. Everyone else is an Icon-in-Waiting. Seamus |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: katlaughing Date: 24 Apr 06 - 05:40 PM Sandy and Caroline Paton; Dick Greenhaus; Art Thieme; my Knights in Shining Armour, you know who you are. And, Ebbie, YOU are to me!! Thank you, very much, for your kindness, darlin'! luvyakat |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 24 Apr 06 - 05:56 PM I'm with Seamus on that one. But I think that Rick personified slightly better Mudcat than we have had since he departed. He smoothed a lot of rough spots and he lead by example. He made me feel like family when Carol introduced him to me. He was a very very good man. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: s&r Date: 24 Apr 06 - 05:57 PM John in Kansas who researches engineering problems for everyone. Stu |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Big Mick Date: 24 Apr 06 - 06:28 PM First, thank you for the kind comments made above. I don't like lists because they are exclusive by their nature, and I believe the magic that is Mudcat was and is its inclusiveness. But I will say that Rick is the genuine article. Sandy Paton is the genuine article. And, of course, Jean Ritchie (kytrad) is the absolute genuine article. One that I would immediately include would be Frank McGrath. Many of you won't recognize the name, but he gave us one on the greatest gifts when he brought THIS wonderful recounting of how Robbie McMahon came on the lyrics of Spancil Hill. The story was so compelling that Frank ended up doing an interview with Irish Music Magazine, as a result (I suspect) of another Mudcatter known here as Liam's Brother, but to many of us as Dan Milner. Dan Milner (Liam's Brother) is absolutely a Mudcat icon for what he has contributed over the years. He is an ethnomusicologist of the first order, one of the great singers, married to one of the finest women I have met (and a Johnson Girl no less), and a wonderful and giving musician. All the best, Mick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Amos Date: 24 Apr 06 - 06:43 PM Actually, JtS is the paradigm of good-hearted, feisty, funny and informative souls who come to this community. He's the classic Mudcatter. And he is not anti-social. I don't see that religion has anything to do with anything. Good folks never let their differences stand between them if they can possibly help it. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Alice Date: 24 Apr 06 - 07:16 PM For me, the iconic thread of Mudcat was and still is the Where is Spancil Hill thread. I agree with Mick, I don't like lists. They too often are popularity contests, and people and things get left out. In the Spancil Hill thread, Frank not only came up with Robbie's story of the original version (when I innocently asked Where is Spancil Hill I had no idea what a wonderful history would turn up) but Frank took that info on to add an article to Irish Music magazine after our thread discussion here. I started talking to Jean Ritchie by email from finding her web site, and gave her the link to Mudcat, inviting her to join. This was in earlier days where there was more focus on music and fewer people involved in the site. It took some time, but Jean (kytrad) eventually joined, and we are all blessed for that. Rick Fielding, Art Thieme, Sandy and Caroline Paton (I'll never forget Sandy and I discussing Mary O'Hara and both racing to the used book web sites to get her autobiography), Bill Sables (and the road trip adventure with Allan C.), and so many more have made this place a rich community for many years. Thank you all for what you contribute! Alice |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 24 Apr 06 - 07:32 PM Allen C is another good soul, a very good man and a good friend, but not an icon. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Bobert Date: 24 Apr 06 - 07:45 PM rEally, wow, folks... I thought my earlier post might have brought this absolute silliness to and end but... Are we really that petty that we need to have this "slam book" thread get all this attention??? Haven't we had enough of them past??? Bottom line, if I just stopped in here tonight and read this thread, it would be my last stop here... I mean, lets get real... Slam books are hurtfull and there are alot of fine folks who haven't even gotten an honorable mention who might just be thinkin', "Hey, why am I wasting my time here with alot of ol' folks who are into worshiping each other???" That's the way I see it and that is MO... Bobert (and last post to this thread....) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 24 Apr 06 - 07:54 PM Well certianly Bobert is an Icon! and he deserves to be called one! and so does everyone else!! You know Guest, Allan C is not an icon. He's a person, an individual, not a symbol for anything but himself. But I'm sure he's proud of that because when it comes right down to it, that is a much greater compliment than calling someone an icon. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Amos Date: 24 Apr 06 - 08:00 PM Anyone who leaves Catspaw out is off 'is noggin, sez I. When I first came here the stars that made the place shine for me were Spaw, his brothers in the Layabout business, his imaginary fleet of characters, the Neil Young Center for the Terminally Screwed, the Gaelic Goddess, Banjo Bonnie, Rick Fielding, Jen Ellen, Art Thieme, Sandy, Peg, and perhaps half-a-dozen others. As far as I care, any soul who strives to make this a brighter,more interesting, and more compassionate place is a star. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: GUEST Date: 24 Apr 06 - 08:03 PM Why do we need threads such as these. It seems to me it causes more damage to the mudcat community than brings them together. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 24 Apr 06 - 08:12 PM Well, I'm not for damaging the community. But these threads are hardly the worse things that happen here. I'm sorry if by mentioning one person and not another I have hurt someone. But also I'm not sure that we have to be so politically correct that we cannot compliment one another. I'm all for more compliments and fewer attacks! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Little Hawk Date: 24 Apr 06 - 08:21 PM Well, Guest, this thread started as a spinoff from another lengthy thread in the music section above, questioning the status of Johnny Cash as an icon. That's why this thread is here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Ebbie Date: 24 Apr 06 - 08:26 PM Hey! I don't think this thread is presenting a contest, popularity or otherwise. I thought we were talking about someone who typifies the spirit that is the Cat. We all (well, mostly all) love the Cat- it is a brilliant site filled with information, warmth, humor, personalities, commiseration, a place to share joys and to halve sorrows, a book to open and catch up with dozens of people. What this thread is about is recognizing some people who to us best represent that spirit. Masato would be an excellent choice. Take him, add a Wolfgang, an acerbic Clinton, a bighearted big Irishman, a softhearted bluesman extraordinaire, a squirt of good will from an ordinary joe, a dash of mischief from der Spiegel, a stir of clarity from a Ronald not from McDonald's -- hey, I've got to stop or I'll be detailing the whole recipe! Anyway, mix us all together and there we have the essence of the Mudcat Cafe. Long live the Cat. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: GUEST,The Cat Date: 24 Apr 06 - 08:34 PM Mee-ow! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: The Shambles Date: 24 Apr 06 - 08:45 PM Errol Flynn's willy and General Custer |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 24 Apr 06 - 09:53 PM GUEST of Arpil 24, 9:17
My vote goes to GUEST.
Sincerely
Hold back on the minion hords we both are holding in reserve. What fools these mortals be. Max, Joe, and Susan are truly NICE people. When you seek shelter in their barn, sometimes you tolerate the stinch of swine. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: GUEST,Jaze Date: 24 Apr 06 - 09:54 PM Wouldn't it be nice to see some of these great posters mentioned come back? They are sorely missed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 24 Apr 06 - 10:02 PM This is a an uncommonly, WELL moderated board.
EVERTHING is read by someone, almost immediately, and most squealers have ear to the clones (this does leave loop-holes for civil-suits and direct responcibility tracable to a handful that permit some postings to remain.)
Because of moderators MC is much less vitrolic. However, it increases civil vulnerability. There is no defence in...."it slipped by."
Be thankful for what you've got - and god bless them children that got their own.
Sincerely, |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 24 Apr 06 - 10:24 PM This is not a thread about who you like best on Mudcat--if it was, the Title would have been"BS-Your Favorite Mudcatters"--I was interested in the deeper issue of what it takes to become a Mudcat icon--and why people do it--
Right, Ted, which is why the posts were deleted. The posts were attempts to hijack the thread, or well meaning folks who responded to the attempts. Play nice.
Mudelf |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Once Famous Date: 24 Apr 06 - 10:50 PM This thread is so self-serving. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Stilly River Sage Date: 24 Apr 06 - 11:26 PM Masato. Gets straight to the heart of the question every time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Mooh Date: 24 Apr 06 - 11:28 PM Thanks to those who remember the overlooked, and I always enjoy Clinton and Art, who I failed to mention. There are others I wish would post more, like Phil Cooper, Alice, and daylia, but maybe they DO things like I mentioned earlier. But if there are those who should post less, how would I know they should post less if they didn't post more? Alice, how could I forget, I still have your "Roundup" where I can see it every day. Some things are never forgotten. Peace, Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 24 Apr 06 - 11:36 PM I can't speak to whether the deletions were appropriate or not, because I didn't see them--irrelevant comments are OK, racism and obscenity are very bad form--as to being self-serving-- when I go on vacation, I keep it to myself. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: number 6 Date: 24 Apr 06 - 11:36 PM Very few females noted in the Mudcat Favs ... I dunno girls, looks like the Mudcat is a male dominated cyber community. sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Big Al Whittle Date: 25 Apr 06 - 06:49 AM whats wrong witha bit of self serving martin. waddya want waitress service...? I used to think an icon was the thing I leaned my bike on buts that cos I've low immunity to a rhymming opportunity |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Big Mick Date: 25 Apr 06 - 08:40 AM ART THIEME. No question, no doubt. A giving man, razor sharp wit, accomplished musician and performer. He has demonstrated time and again his committment to "Pass it on". An icon for far more than Mudcat, he is an icon to the folk world. Mick |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Amos Date: 25 Apr 06 - 09:27 AM 6-- I think if you look you will find that Áine, Jen Ellen, Kytrad, Peg, are all very much of the female persuasion, as is Katlaughing. If you compare the whole population of Mudcat by gender I suspect you will find more males than females on board, but that is not a bias of the Cat. It is a self selection filter in the population as a whole. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Alice Date: 25 Apr 06 - 09:30 AM Well, on the topic of icons DISCUSSED on Mudcat, like Johnny Cash, I would say: Robert Johnson Woody Guthrie Bob Dylan Kingston Trio Joan Baez Odetta Jean Ritchie Jean Redpath The Chieftains The Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem Percy French The Weavers Malvina Reynolds Bill Munroe Ewan MacColl Peggy Seeger Pete Seeger The Watersons Martin Carthy Kevin Burke Liam O'Flynn Archie Fisher Joe Heaney Turlough O'Carolan and many, many more All the best, Alice |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: MMario Date: 25 Apr 06 - 09:33 AM Bruce Olsen; John in Brisbane; Alison; Alan of Oz; so many more - I think there are a great many people past and present who deserve 'icon' status ; for one reason or another; some for one facet of the Mudcat, some for another. And those who just come with a question, or who trigger a flurry of rearch deserve iconhood as well. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John Hardly Date: 25 Apr 06 - 10:04 AM Iconic Topics: 1. Is folk "style" or "provenance"? 2. How important is the instrument to the quality of the music? (all its permutations about favorite instrument brands and types). And to what extent can (for instance) a good player make a cheap instrument sound good. 3. Creative writing threads. 4. Best history/lore threads (Walt Robinson thread comes to mind). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: CarolC Date: 25 Apr 06 - 11:26 AM I've been having some difficulty with this one. I guess it would depend on how "Icon" is being defined for the purpose of this thread. Here's some definitions from Websters... 3 : an object of uncritical devotion : IDOL I'm not touching this one. 4 : EMBLEM, SYMBOL [the house became an icon of 1860's residential architecture -- Paul Goldberger] I think, if there is any one person who symbolizes all of what the Mudcat is and has ever been, good as well as warty, it's Bruce Olson and all of his various personas. But if it's just about who we particularly like, I'm with Bobert on this one. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: number 6 Date: 25 Apr 06 - 11:57 AM Amos ... I suspect these individuals mentioned (you forgot Ebbie) are of the female gender, not female persuasion. As per the exact ratio of male/female members in the Cat, maybe JohnInKansas can do a thorough analysis on this. If the Cat is a representation of the real world (and it does look give that impression) you would be certain to find some gender bias here. Are any moderators female? sIx (just presenting some food for thought here) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Janie Date: 25 Apr 06 - 12:08 PM I'm a legend in my own mind. does that count;^) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: MMario Date: 25 Apr 06 - 12:11 PM 6 - yes, to answer your question - several are. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: number 6 Date: 25 Apr 06 - 12:13 PM Thank you MMario. sIx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John MacKenzie Date: 25 Apr 06 - 12:23 PM Mudcat is an equal opportunities voluntary organiser organisation! I know at least two lady clones, but don't know them all of course, 6 guys and 2 gals so far though. Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 25 Apr 06 - 12:34 PM Good examples, John Hardly--and each topic has it's standard gambits-- Someone in the style/provenance thread will say, "I hope this thread doesn't turn into another discussion of "What is folk music?", and will then start the discussion. For the instrument thread, someone will write an endorsement for Lowden guitars. For the creative writing thread, someone will be reminded of a long old "song" that they wrote, which has no discernable connection to the topic. For the history/lore threads, there are two standard gambits--that, contrary to all evidence, it is of recent orgin, or, without any evidence, that it dates back to the 13th century. Carol: My idea begins with this, from Free OnLine Dictionary: i·con n. 1. also i·kon (kn) a. An image; a representation. b. A representation or picture of a sacred or sanctified Christian personage, traditionally used and venerated in the Eastern Church. 2. An important and enduring symbol: "Voyager will take its place ... alongside such icons of airborne adventure as The Spirit of St. Louis and [the] Bell X-1" William D. Marbach. 3. One who is the object of great attention and devotion; an idol: "He is ... a pop icon designed and manufactured for the video generation" Harry F. Waters. 4. Computer Science A picture on a screen that represents a specific file, directory, window, option, or program. From this, I have abstracted: "A representation"" on a screen" "designed and manufactured" by "One who(desires to be) the object of great attention" -- And that is what I am interested in--- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: CarolC Date: 25 Apr 06 - 12:47 PM From this, I have abstracted: "A representation"" on a screen" "designed and manufactured" by "One who(desires to be) the object of great attention This is your working definition of "Icon" for the purpose of this thread? LOL Hmmmm... I'm going to have to think about this... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Amos Date: 25 Apr 06 - 12:50 PM Thanks for the correction. I will be more careful not to use humorous phrases in your presence in the future. My apologies for slighting Ebbie unintentionally. Which reminds me...oh, never mind!!! LOL A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John MacKenzie Date: 25 Apr 06 - 01:23 PM The irregular Latin verb possum means to be able, or I can. So with a bit of elision I nominate a possum as an icon. Any Mudcatters called Possum? Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: katlaughing Date: 25 Apr 06 - 01:31 PM Well there's Cleigh O'Possum, an ocarina made for Spaw by Blessings Barbara. That possum has had some notables blow up his arse including Rick Fielding! He's also had quite the adventures. If you look at the photos page, there are some snaps of him with Rick and Spaw, froms everal years ago. Iconic thread; Hokey Pokey and the Druids. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Jack the Sailor Date: 25 Apr 06 - 01:42 PM I hope this was a joke. From this, I have abstracted: "A representation"" on a screen" "designed and manufactured" by "One who(desires to be) the object of great attention" -- By THIS definition there is only one "icon" "designed and manufactured" here and its designers desire to be "the object of great attention" is really not worthy of discussion on the thread. the other people you listed in your initial post might well take offense to the implication that they have been "designed and manufactured" to be "the object of great attention". |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John Hardly Date: 25 Apr 06 - 01:50 PM 5. The freakin' dictionary. :rolleyes: There is NEVER a discussion (anymore) on the mudcat without someone coming to the rescue with a dicitonary or "wikepedia" (oh, crap! Did I misspell "Wickepedia"! Someone, QUICK, look it up for me, will you?!). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 25 Apr 06 - 01:59 PM Yep, CarolC, that's what I'm thinking about. In his book about Andy Warhol, Bob Colacello said something to the effect that Andy always said certain sort of things because he liked the way they made him look in print. A long time ago, I realized that some people posted things on the internet for that same reason. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: catspaw49 Date: 25 Apr 06 - 02:02 PM Well thanks to all who thought of me but once again as I said elsewhere, I have no real idea what makes an icon. I think that Mick's comment about someone being the "real deal" along with our individual "takes" on that person or thing's position/status/whatever as it relates to a specific subject, may be somehow wrapped up in it. Staying power too has much to do with it. On that basis, while I would love to nominate 40 or 50 'Catters, only a few are really there. Art, Sandy, Jean, Rick.......After them we get murky, but I think Kendall has a spot as does Bruce Olson. The older "icons" of this place only had their places in the moments......Cleigh, Cletus and Paw, Shatner, Tiples, Chongo, and all of those were just a temporary enjoyment, a laugh along the way. But it seems the biggest thing that the 'Cat really had besides the music was laughter and that is now in very short supply. ....very sad..... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John Hardly Date: 25 Apr 06 - 02:07 PM ok. so you're not one. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 25 Apr 06 - 02:20 PM Jack, Clinton Hammond is easy to identify by the curt, acerbic and witty posts that peppers many of the BS threads with, and, though he uses his real name--he has said that if you think you can tell who he really is, as a person, from those posts, you are wrong. And what about "John of Hull"--he is a self-admitted contivance--nothing more than a vehicle for that endless string of humorous threads(sorry--"humourous"-- John Hardly: I just did it myself..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: catspaw49 Date: 25 Apr 06 - 02:21 PM Actually John I am not one but in fact I am 306. One IS the loneliest number........ Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Amos Date: 25 Apr 06 - 02:30 PM The Icons of Mudcat are brave souls and bold, And folks to whom fear is a stranger, They don't flinch at trolls, or at snidety cold, Nor at anger or spam, or at danger. It is not for the words that these honorable birds Continue to say things that matter! They are not just yakkers, but thinkers, not slackers, But hard working friends of Mudcatters. They are strong, but serene -- not just talking machines! Beware how you choose to malign them! For the good that they seek's not the words that they speak! 'T is the noble ideas, sir, behind 'em. B.S. Jelliott Poet Laureate of the Lesser Vowels |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John Hardly Date: 25 Apr 06 - 02:53 PM and I am traveling on the one after nine-oh-nine. M.Ted, Sometimes you find yourself having to fight fire* with fire*. *fy·er n. 1. also ·far (hillbilly) a. A dictionary; a wikipedia. b. A representation of the ultimate, last word in online debate. c. An excellent means of swerving the topic off-course when all involved already understand what the hell is meant by the words used in said topic ............. all the while appearing more erudite for having "researched" the topic. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: autolycus Date: 25 Apr 06 - 03:15 PM Can someone tell me how to track down postings of former posters? I hear a lot about Rick Fielding which has roused my interest in his postings. Thank you Ivor |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John MacKenzie Date: 25 Apr 06 - 03:26 PM Just stick his name in Search (click). G.. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John Hardly Date: 25 Apr 06 - 03:31 PM rick fielding |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 25 Apr 06 - 04:38 PM Very clever verse, Amos--except for the word "snidety"--certain people will demand that this thread be immediately deleted when they see it;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: CarolC Date: 25 Apr 06 - 04:44 PM That's an interesting take on it, M.Ted. "John Hardly", when I as in school, my teachers taught me that if I was in doubt about the meaning of a word, I should look it up in a dictionary. It was good advice then, and it's still good advice. I don't know what your teachers taught you, but if they didn't teach you that much, I think they did you a disservice. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 25 Apr 06 - 05:15 PM It is an idea that explains a lot, Carol-- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John Hardly Date: 25 Apr 06 - 05:17 PM Yeah, me too Carol. Maybe you should have been a school marm. You've got that "knuckle wrapping" thing down real goo......er.....wel......er... ...I'd better go look that'n up. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 25 Apr 06 - 05:18 PM And one hundred. This is a lot easier than explaining how to Travis pick-- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 25 Apr 06 - 05:20 PM Oops, I guess it's harder than it looks--Curse you, John Hardly! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John Hardly Date: 25 Apr 06 - 05:29 PM My glee at having scored the 100 (probably my first ever) has been diminished by having shown my further need for a dictionary. That should have been "rapping" knuckles. After the rapping, then maybe "wrapping" would be in order. Especially if the rapping is done by a well-trained school marm. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 25 Apr 06 - 09:09 PM When I played upright bass in a Polish Folk Band, I wrapped my fingers all the way up to the first knuckles--I worked with a wonderful accordion player, a great fiddler, and an excellent clarinetist--I was the exception--and that's another good way to swerve off topic. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: CarolC Date: 25 Apr 06 - 09:33 PM No thanks, John Hardly. I'll leave that job to those best qualified to do it. For me, I just want to frolic amongst the daisies. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 25 Apr 06 - 10:53 PM In a slightly different configuration, we played freilachs, which, as I understand it, is a form of the word "frolic"--no daisys though. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John MacKenzie Date: 26 Apr 06 - 04:10 AM Any doozies? G. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 26 Apr 06 - 09:14 AM That would depend on what you mean by "dooziess"-- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John Hardly Date: 26 Apr 06 - 09:47 AM "That would depend on what you mean by "dooziess"--" Oh my gosh.......out come the dictionaries again. There is one other characteristic of mudcat that, though I've seen to some extent on other forums, I've never seen it as much as here on mudcat. Here it is the rule rather than the exception... ...this place, more than anywhere else, people duplicate the information that precedes them in a thread. It is nothing to see almost an exact re-statement of an idea several times in one thread -- none of them acknowledging the previous. It reads like either a group of alzheimer's patients, or a group of hard-of-hearing old folks. I'm not sure that's "iconic", but it certainly is set in stone. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: GUEST,JTS Date: 26 Apr 06 - 09:51 AM ...this place, more than anywhere else, people duplicate the information that precedes them in a thread. It is nothing to see almost an exact re-statement of an idea several times in one thread -- none of them acknowledging the previous. Where I've seen that, its been in response to people arging the same point over and over and NOT responding to the information of previous posts. I think it used to happen to one particular person because he had a habit of "skimming" other people's posts. But then, you could be talking about a completely different situation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John Hardly Date: 26 Apr 06 - 10:03 AM I think it happens as you say -- sometimes even understandable as a political thread goes above the hundred mark, and few if any have been following it all along. But I really am thinking of cases more "above the line". Simply stating exactly the same thing as has been stated ... just as if it had yet to be stated. To be honest, it used to REALLY bug me as impolite. Finally, I came to the realization that the mudcat just works differently -- that more people than not: 1. don't read the thread ahead of their posting, and 2. answer directly to the question as asked in the thread title -- without regard to whether it's already been answered. Here it's not like a group conversation where everyone stops and listens while another talks -- and then the conversation evolves around not just the first question, but the new direction that responses to the initial question direct it. No, here it's more like one person asks a group a question and the group responds to the questioner as if on paper, as if they aren't aware (have no way of being aware) of other respondents. I've never known why it was always that way here but not on other forums. I used to theorize that it had to do with the Brit/USA split in mores and customs, but, though I theorized that, I couldn't say why that would make any difference. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: GUEST,JTS Date: 26 Apr 06 - 10:25 AM well one reason for that is pure unadulterated long windedness, another, more positive aspect, is that some people here, as compared to other forums I've been on take a long time to carefully compose their posts. (I'm not one of those) So sometimes the fact that you see the same information twice or more is just cross posting. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: autolycus Date: 26 Apr 06 - 05:41 PM Giok and John Hardly - thank you so much for the Rick F. help. I do think that Us Brits and the Americans do think/respond/function/etc differently from each other ("divided by a common language"). Don't know about other forums. I have noticed here how peop0le usually respond to posts a max. of about 4 behind and no further, so that innumerable points get lost in the rush to respond to the most recent. My guess,repeat GUESS , is th't that is an American tendency (habit?), something to do with needing (?) to react to the latest stimulus. Ivor |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: CarolC Date: 26 Apr 06 - 06:09 PM My guess,repeat GUESS , is th't that is an American tendency (habit?), something to do with needing (?) to react to the latest stimulus. That might make sense if this was an "American" forum, but it really isn't, even though it's headquartered in the US. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 26 Apr 06 - 06:24 PM In music threads, it is often necessary to do a little work in order to answer a question, so a bit of time passes while you are preparing your response. Once you have started writing an answer, you are disinclined to reload the thread to see if anyone has already answered, because it will erase what you have been working on-- As to your guess, Ivor, there are very few "American" tendencies-- people do things differently in different places. Some places people listen to you(or pretend to), some places they don't. Some places they pride themselves on letting you finish your thought, some places, they pride themselves on cutting you off. Some places, folks expect you to agree, some places, they expect you to disagree. It's a big country. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John MacKenzie Date: 27 Apr 06 - 03:51 AM Many of us don't open threads we don't like the sound of title wise. Then when the thread keeps on going and the contributions mount we think, 'Better take a looksee' The last post says something you don't agree with, or vice versa, so you look back a couple of threads to see what caused the posting, you disagree with the premise and think you can say it better, and then you post. The fact that your finely honed prose may be an exact duplicate of one posted 2 days previously doesn't matter, you're never going to read it, you're never even going to know about it unless some school swot draws your attention to it. The chances are though that the next contributor will do the same as you just did, and so the cycle continues. Then there's the monoposter thread, where most of the contributions are from one poster, and you sort of feel it would be crass to gatecrash the posters little Narcissistic noodles. I really think a thread classification system should be set up as just Music and BS are not enough to either attract or warn the possible poster of the contents of each particular post. Something like. 1 Post liable to bore you to death 2 Post liable to raise the blood pressure of Republicans 2a " " " " " " " " Democrats 2c Brits 2d Americans 2e Canucks 2f Grammar policepersons There might just not be enough room for all the different classifications, but hey I can think of a couple of anal Catters who would just adore being asked to draw up a list of post contents labels. You know who you are!! Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John Hardly Date: 27 Apr 06 - 05:40 AM Actually, if (as on other forums) the name of the thread-starter appeared with the thread title, only a very small percentage of posts would ever be opened in the first place (saving the need for all the classifications). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John MacKenzie Date: 27 Apr 06 - 06:27 AM That is oh so very true John, try using the 'Posts since last visit' facility from the drop down menu, I use it and find it helps me find posts by my favourite posters that I might otherwise miss. Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Big Al Whittle Date: 27 Apr 06 - 06:28 AM great name for a band .......American Tendencies |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Dr. Guitar Date: 27 Apr 06 - 06:35 AM I would like to nominate dearest Ebbie, my favourite patient, who is still having the most awful trouble not looking at those terrible jazz chords sites. Always here but, alas, seldom called upon now. The musical standards and health of this web community must, therefore, have risen dramatically in the interim. Yours most sincerely, Dr. Guitar |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: freda underhill Date: 27 Apr 06 - 07:15 AM Bob Bolton is on my list, as a wonderful generous man with an encyclopaedic knowledge of aussie music, and the late John in brisbane ( a lovely man who entered over 500 trad Australian songs into the digital tradition). jennyo and jennie g are two aussie earth singers - their hair is the colour of our beautiful red earth. back to the other side of the world, I agree with those named and include Catsphiddle, Katlaughing, Ebbie, Liz the squeak, Morticia, Hilda Fish, Dianavan and the amazonian Carol C as wonderful women of the web. Micca falls into a cat-egory of his own - truly a man of the digital dream. freda |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Big Mick Date: 27 Apr 06 - 08:29 AM Don't forget THE FAIR ONE whom I shamelessly pursue over cyber hill and dale, known to the rest of the world as alison. This great Mudcatter singlehandedly transcribed more tunes to the DT than about anyone. She contributed mightily to understanding the North of Ireland, and had an amazingly sharp wit. We don't see her much these days (much to my chagrin), but she surely belongs in the hall of heroes here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 27 Apr 06 - 09:53 AM "The American Tendencies", must needs be a non-American band-- A lot of these nominations are helping me to realize that the term "icon" doesn't really make the distinction between the people who do the talking and the ones who do the work around here-- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: GUEST Date: 27 Apr 06 - 01:29 PM And the winner is... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 27 Apr 06 - 01:37 PM To borrow a bit from the "Psychobabble" thread--there are no winners or losers here--we've learned a lot, and in that sense, we're all winners-- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: alison Date: 30 Apr 06 - 09:35 PM thanks for the kind words Mick, I still lurk...... and if you ever make to Oz........ could be interesting........ hahaha I think my record for posting tunes was broken a long time ago, by John in Brisbane (I miss him)....... add to the list Harpgirl, alice, aine, & Shula slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Bill D Date: 30 Apr 06 - 09:42 PM ooohhh..Shula! an icon of 1st caliber....she was cast in the same factory as Rick Fielding. It's been awhile...*sigh*....I wonder... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: Big Mick Date: 01 May 06 - 08:11 AM Yep, Shula. You are absolutely correct on that Fair One. In fact she might be the first icon. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 04 May 06 - 05:22 PM Are the deleted posts going to be restored to this thread, as well? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John MacKenzie Date: 04 May 06 - 05:26 PM Were they relevant? G.. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 04 May 06 - 05:42 PM Relevant isn't really a valid criteria-In another thread, Joe says that an over enthusatic clone deleted a number of posts that should not have been deleted. Here are the rules, as per Joe," no personal attacks, no spam, no racism, no non-music copy-pastes longer than one page, and be civil to other participants." Given that Mudcat operates with a rather liberal sense of civility-- Incidentally, Giok--welcome back from hospital! Glad to know that things went well and you are on the mend. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: John MacKenzie Date: 04 May 06 - 05:51 PM Thanks M Ted. Usually threads Joe thinks have been wrongly deleted are restored to life, as if by magic ! Giok |
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Subject: RE: BS: Who are the Mudcat Icons? From: M.Ted Date: 04 May 06 - 06:08 PM This thread had quietly slipped into inactivity before the problem came to light- |
