RadioNewfoundland.net

Subject: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,Nick
Date: 16 Jan 07 - 08:14 PM

Due to an upgrade I was able to finagle at work my windows media player is current. (They dont want me to have anything) But as a result I have been listening to an AM station out of St Johns Newfoundland ( I forget the call letters) that plays a great mix of tunes and genres. Least favorite is how much country sounding tunes they play, but most fabulous is the Maritime, Folk and Celtic tunes. They also play contemporay stuff that must be from THE ROCK and maritimes. Just not like any radio I have ever heard before.
Whack Fall The Day
Nick

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Jan 07 - 08:47 PM

http://radionewfoundland.net/


Looks like good stuff.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Jan 07 - 10:37 PM

Thanks, Nick. Thanks for the link, Joe. Listening now!

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: number 6
Date: 16 Jan 07 - 10:51 PM

Welcome to East Coast Canada guys.

biLL

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Jan 07 - 10:55 PM

Hmmm...didn't realise it was commercial. Or, maybe just public, but carrying public service announcements. I see what you mean about a little too country, but it's still fun to hear.

Thanks for the link, again.

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: number 6
Date: 16 Jan 07 - 10:57 PM

There is a strong connection between Ireland and Newfoundland.

biLL

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: number 6
Date: 16 Jan 07 - 10:59 PM

Might as well delete my post above.

biLL

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Jan 07 - 11:18 PM

Thanks, biLL. Sorry I thought twice about my previous post and had it deleted. I didn't want to cause any stir in posting about being surprised at hearing "Come out ye black and tans" on this radio station. I appreciate your explanation. I don't know enough about the settlement of Newfoundland and didn't want to offend anyone.

They are playing some *great* songs...a lot of them sound like our Big Mick!

Thanks, again,

kat

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: number 6
Date: 16 Jan 07 - 11:19 PM

This is a very good radio station, I am enjoying it ... much thanks Nick!

biLL

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 16 Jan 07 - 11:41 PM

I have been listening to it for the past 3 years and have learned many Newfie songs. My only complaint about it is that they do not have a playlist which other folk music stations have.

                                                 SOL

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,Dale
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 01:06 AM

Yes, Rabbi-Sol is right. No play list, no announcing the songs as they go, if you hear a song you like, you just try to figure out what it might be with an internet search.

It also helps if you have at least a reasonable knowledge of Newfoundland and Atlantic Canada Musicians like Simani, Buddy Wasisname and the Other Fellers, Ellis and Wince Coles, The Cormiers, etc.

Check out fellow Mudcatter Gest's Songs of Newfoundland site for additional help. http://www.wtv-zone.com/phyrst/audio/nfld/
That's probably the biggest single aid in figuring things out.

Seems like I helped Rabbi-Sol with some lyrics several years ago. I am remembering as I type. It was Moving Away by the Cormiers. When he asked, I did not know who it was by, though I had heard it on RNF. His inquiry set me on my successful quest to figure it out. As I recall, Gest's site is where I finally nailed it down.

I think I have mentioned several times on here that it is my favorite internet radio station.

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 01:11 AM

"No play list, no announcing the songs as they go" - Hey, it's Newfoundland; they do things their way -

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,Dale
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 01:24 AM

Well, sure and we know that when this world comes to an end, it'll be "A half an hour later" in Newfoundland. (Carlton Show Band)

As to its being "too country", that's a matter of personal preference. I listen to it for precisely that reason. If someone doesn't like it for that content, there are plenty of other stations to listen to.

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,Terry McDonald
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 03:56 AM

re Number 6's comment about Newfoundland and Ireland. Yes, but the links with the west of England are stronger. See my article in the British Journal of Canadian Studies Vol 14, no2., 'Where have all the (English) folk songs gone? - Newfoundland's rejection of its Dorset heritage.' Or should this be under SHAMELESS PROMOTION?

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: Alba
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 05:27 AM

Thank you Nick.
Tuned in last Night. Yip this wee station is a keeper:)
Jude

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: Beer
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 08:04 AM

Like Rabbi Sol I have been listening for at least 3-4 years to this station. Great "Rock" music. There is also a new site I just recently came across: http://www.yesby.com/jukebox.html
Sorry no bluely. It is not all in place but it could turn out to be interesting.
Beer
Aka (adrien)

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 08:21 AM

Terry McDonald - Your article sounds interesting - is it available on-line anywhere?

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: kendall
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 08:39 AM

I can't connect. It times out on me.
Is this CHSJ?

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: Beer
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 08:45 AM

Kendall,
Usually in the morning there is no connection. Try around 11:30 or so.
http://www.radionewfoundland.net/

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,Terry McDonald
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 08:47 AM

re my article: I don't think so - try the British Association for Canadian Studies website www.canadian-studies.net or contact its Administrator, Jodie Robson.

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 08:50 AM

Thanks!

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 09:14 AM

I agree with you on the British heritage in Newfoundland ... my post was an answer to Kat ... see her post above regarding this.

biLL

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: katlaughing
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 10:20 AM

Sorry for any confusion on my part.

Dale, I think you probably have mentioned it before. I lost all of my radio links a few years ago on an old computer. Couldn't remember a lot of them and never had the time to go looking until recently.

Thansk for the further info, everyone. Terry, I'd like to read your article, too. Thansk for the link.

kat

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: Cool Beans
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 12:23 PM

An old man walks the city;
A sign held in his hand
Says "The world will end at midnight;
12:30 in Newfoundland."

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GEST
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 12:24 PM

For those interested, GEST Songs of Newfoundland and Labrador is designed in frames, specifically so a visitor can click on the link near the bottom of the Main Page to listen to 930 AM Radio Newfoundland while surfing the more than 1850 other pages on the site. :-)

GEST

P.S. Can you say, "New-fun-land" ?

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,Terry McDonald
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 12:38 PM

During the 1948/9 negotiations to bring Newfoundland into Canada, civil servants in Ottawa were taught to say underSTAND Newf'nLAND in order to get the pronunciation right.

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 01:38 PM

The closest most Upper Canadians can get to the local pronunciation is, "NEWf'nl'nd". You'll often hear that on CBC. At least they're trying!

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 01:41 PM

That last guest was me. And I also meant to add: there is probably somewhere in Newfoundland in which "NEWf'nl'nd" is the usual pronunciation ...

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,Terry McDonald
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 02:19 PM

Don't think so........from Port aux Basques to St John's and up to St Anthony, its Noof'nLAND!

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,Nick
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 07:19 PM

Glad to bring something new to those of you that it is. Even if it makes it harder for me to get a connection!

As for announcing the songs they don't seem to have a routine for the DJ's, they do it when they can. and I did email the station about not seeing the song playing on the media player. The response was that they hoped it would be fixed "someday"! They do announce often enough to know I NEED to get a Shanneyganock CD and the Punters seem cool. Cape Brettons Crying is a beautiful song. But it is also a bit of an eye opener about the limitations of the internet search. There have been many song lyrics, mostly from contemporary sounding music that yield nothing. It may say more about the music scene in Atlantic Canada.

This is definitely a commercial station, and now I know where I can go to a seafood buffet to get my Seal Flippers and Cod Tongues.

As for the mix of (white) peoples who populate all of Atlantic Canada it is safe to say it is Irish, Scots and French. (Think Nova Scotia) My wife & I honeymooned in Nova Scotia & PEI 4 years ago and that was the start of my interest in the music of the region. Great Big Sea is my 2nd favorite band in the world (after Jefferson Airplane) We saw 4 bands in bars while we were there and thay all played a mix of tunes much like this station does, and they were so into it!

Ok, enough outa me!
Whack Fall The Day
Nick

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: number 6
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 07:29 PM

To be honest I have never listened to 'radio' on my puter previous to last nite.... so this was a treat Nick, and it is now on 'my favourites list' .... again, much thanks.

This station pretty well represents the heart and soul of East Coast Canadian music.

bill
(Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada)

biLL

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: katlaughing
Date: 17 Jan 07 - 07:34 PM

Ah, biLL, you are in for some more treats, re' internet radio. Try hober.com sometime. Also Live365. There's some great stuff out there!

Thanks, again, Nick!

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: Bee
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 01:10 PM

I'm a Nova Scotian, but I heartily recommend anyone touring East should spend a good amount of time in Newfoundland. The music is great, people are beyond awesome. We travelled up the west coast a few years ago, took two weeks at it (you need a week for Gros Morne), went to see the Viking ruins 'n' everything. There we met the happiest working man in Nfld: he was a recreator for the museum, spent all day dressed as a Viking and having a hoot doing it. We saw him, already in character, striding about St. Anthony early in the morning with a Tim's in hand and a grin on his face. He was great at the job.

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 01:57 PM

"As for the mix of (white) peoples who populate all of Atlantic Canada it is safe to say it is Irish, Scots and French."

There are a great many Atlantic Canadians of English extraction; they just don't get as much press. Or brag as much. Many arrived as Loyalists during and after the American Revolution (as did many of non-English origin, e.g., Dutch, German, African-American). In Nova Scotia in particular, there are many people of German origin; many were brought in as Protestant settlers to counterbalance the numbers of French Catholics, back when such things were thought to matter (i.e., 18th Century).

(Thanks for the link, Nick!).

By the way, for those Canucks with satellite TV, there is a Nfld TV station that plays Newfoundland music for a couple of hours every night, to an ever-changing video presentation of "scenes of Newfoundland". It's really wonderful.

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: gnu
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 02:39 PM

"Links with west coast of England stronger"... ??? (From the British Association for Canadian Studies... oh, I see.)

"There are a great many Atlantic Canadians of English extraction; they just don't get as much press. Or brag as much." ...???

30 to 35% Irish and 30 to 35% French in Maritime Canada (NB, NS and PEI). Now, I don't know the figures for NF, but I sure met a hell of a lot if Irish Descedants when I was there. (joke alert, google "The Irish Descendants")

Brag as much? Maybe we are PROUD of our history, unlike those whose forefathers deported Cat'lics, siezed their land and belongings and gave their land to immigrant Protestants, burned their farms, put up signs like "No Irish Allowed Beyond This Point"....

Okay.... I gotta go before I get pissed off. I am Canadian Irish and French, you see, so I don't take to being pissed on.

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: Bee
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 02:53 PM

And I thought you were a kind of antelope...

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: Beer
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 03:20 PM

I'm also from the deported class and you are right Gnu, our forefathers were send in the back roads to settle so they wouldn't be seen. and thank god for the natives who gave us shelter.
Beer (adrien) from Palmer Road P.E.I.

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 04:47 PM

"Brag as much? Maybe we are PROUD of our history, unlike those whose forefathers deported Cat'lics, siezed their land and belongings and gave their land to immigrant Protestants, burned their farms, put up signs like "No Irish Allowed Beyond This Point".... "

Ouch! Hey, I was just trying to give you a little friendly ribbing, not re-open old wounds. We've talked about this on other threads; I'll be the first one to acknowledge and deplore the treatment the Acadiens received, and credit them (you) with the tremendous progress they've made in the past few generations ... So - sorry, man! I didn't mean nothin', honest!

(But surely you are not denying that there a lot of people in the Maritimes and Newfoundland of English extraction?).

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 04:53 PM

and Lebanese, and Danish, and African, .....

... anyway .... it's a great radio station.

biLL

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: Beer
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 05:02 PM

Yes Bill it is a great station. I have mentioned the following before but in case some of the folks on this thread haven't seen it here is also a great site. Go to the video section and enjoy.

http://www.capebretonlive.com/

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 06:59 PM

I'll admit I dont know the numbers of various ancestral groups in Atlantic Canada, but I do know both Scotts and French ancestors of mine migrated through. The fisrt one being a Desjardins who was a Jesuit priest in the early 16,000s.

The impression I took from Nova Scotia was very slanted twords the Scotts history, judging by place names and even the accents of the people I met, seemed a bit like what I'd heard in Scotland. Another unsceintific barometer I used was to the songs the bar bands were playing while we were there. I know that there were quite a few English loyalist who fled New England during and after The American Revolution and went to Nova Scotia, this is not saying that there were not many there already.

I just know the two weeks my wife and spent in the region were just great and turned me towards maritime music and deepened my love of Celtic music as well. We realy enjoyed Halifax, and the drive around cape Bretton's Cabott trail is something special. We spent three nights at the Keltic Lodge (Yes that's how they spelled it)in Ingonish, just inside the Cape Bretton Highlands Park. It was the last week of the season and they were closing the hotel that weekend so we had the place, and the folk musician playing in the lounge pretty much to ourselves. Lucked out with great weather for late October. 5 nights in Charlottetown on PEI was also very nice, had a great room with a hot tub for less than a crappy room in the Holiday Inn in Waterbury CT would cost! Saw a bar band that was just great at The Old Dublin Pub. And where ever you go, try the fish chowder! Always different always great!
Whack Fall The Day
Nick

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 07:13 PM

I was at the Old Dublin last Saturday - I was sorely tempted by the chowder, but got the steak sandwich instead. It was fine - but now you've got me wishing I had ordered the chowder!

The band didn't start till 10 p.m., and I had to get back to Pugwash!

My folks met at Keltic Lodge; they both worked there after the war ...

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: Jim Lad
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 07:25 PM

Guest:
      Who was playing?

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: Beer
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 07:30 PM

Been at the Old Dublin as well. Met, and still good friends with a great musician by the name of Gordon Belsher. He also plays guitar for a pretty good young fiddler by the name of Cynthia MacLeod.
Beer (adrien)

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 07:31 PM

If that's me you're addressing - you know, I've been trying to remember; one of the relatively newer bands who I've never seen, but whose name I've been seeing around for awhile ... it'll come to me ... I'm sure it wasn't that Jim Brannigan guy (checked out your site - great stuff!).

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: number 6
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 07:32 PM

I once heard Dave Gunning (an East Coast Canadian artist worth mentioning here) sing a heart moving song inspired about an old couple he met at the Keltic Lodge celebrating their 50th wedding anniversry ... I wish I could remember the title.

biLL

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: Jim Lad
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 07:34 PM

No. That's not why I asked although I was a regular there. I know lots of the musicians there and was curious though. The lodge usually just has solos.

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: Jim Lad
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 07:36 PM

And no Meself: I meant Guest. Sorry

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 07:44 PM

I heard Dave G. sing that song in Tatamagouche, shortly before Christmas. Made me think of the folks, of course ... We gave them a beautiful painting of Cape Smokey (site of Keltic Lodge) for their 50th a few years back. Jeesh, they're heading for their 60th now! Dave put on a great show, along with Riley Madison, and their accompanists.

Gordon Belsher's been a stalwart on the Island scene for ages; I first encountered him in a band called Josie Pye, named after a character from Anne of Green Gables. He was in the band, not me. Yeah, the Old Dublin has been on the go for quite a while too!

And Cynthia MacLeod - great - but there are so many great young fiddlers on the Island now you can't keep track of them ...

Subject: RE: RadioNewfoundland.net
From: Beer
Date: 18 Jan 07 - 07:46 PM

The group that Gordon Belsher was with at the time was "Jar O'Comfort